Price dropped to an all time low, beating my previous post.
LR and Performance price remains unchanged.
Prices above exclude on-road costs (varying per state).
Tesla Model Y RWD $57,700 (Was $62,700) | Tesla Model 3 RWD $56,700 (Was $60,700) Delivered + On-Road Costs @ Tesla
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@Clear: Hah.. I love how inconsistent people are in determining what should/shouldn't be a bargain. Considering the price has dropped multiple times in such a short period, I fail to see how this is a bargain in any way. But you do you.
Not at all. It's pretty common for a product to get a permanent price cut to a new, lower level.
Being notified that an item you wanted to buy has now dropped substantially in price is genuinely useful information that is helpful to users of a website like this, and thus a valid bargain.
$55,900 + ORC for NSW
I am a tesla driver and I absolutely will buy another one. One pedal driving is so enjoyable. I enjoy driving it more than my new Defender
I am looking forward on that direction from driving SUV for years.
What’s one pedal driving?
As soon as you let go of the accelerator, the regen braking takes hold and you slow down. You don't need to use the brake pedal in most situations unless a sudden stop.
Literally takes a few minutes to master once you take delivery and start driving
@AliKay: Good on you. Took me a bit of a while to get the hang of it. In fact to this day the pace of deceleration is still not quite to my liking… Probably my driving of a Tesla and an ICE is a contributing factor.
The main thing to remember is you're not supposed to just lift off the accelerator when you want to slow down. You need to slowly release it as the car slows. That is unless you want to make your passengers sick then yeah just lift right off.
I always found it interesting that OPD is considered a "feature" when in reality it's a bug. It's the workaround implemented for cars not fitted with blended braking.
Good for pirates
Do you think we will reach a point here in Aus that when you inevitably need to replace your EV battery that you will have choices over what battery you put in? i.e. put a tesla branded battery vs putting in alternate brands (panasonic, samsung, LG, generic etc)
I don't like the idea of being tied to tesla when a battery replacement happens, as if they really want to stop supporting a car we are stuffed.
I, for one, would welcome our Eneloop overlords
Nice thinking…… Probably it can be done in future…..
But lot of things involved. Especially if Tesla allows you to do it.I do agree…unless government bodies enforce it.
I know in the EU their making laws to ensure EV's have a circular economy for their batteries. If Aus does something like this it would be beneficial; If automotive manufacturers need to factor in what's going to happen when the battery reaches EOL, they will be more inclined to open up the option for third parties to create, refurbish, or supply new batteries. Which would offset the problem from themselves.
teslas are smart enough to properly manage their battery
unlikely you'll need to ever replace it, will outlive the car
unless of course you're an uber driver, then maybe after 500k kms you might need a replacement, but just get the standard range plus with the LFP and it'll probably last closer to a million kms
but yes, although i'd only predict teslas at this stage due to their well established form factor, popularity and the big thing - it's AI driving capabilities which will ultimately be safer than normal drivers and eventually be used as commercial driverless transport, so battery replacement will be profitable
chemistries of choice of atm are MCN, LFP and sodium ion, who know where we'll be in a decade but i suspect the battle will be between LFP and sodium ion
unlikely you'll need to ever replace it, will outlive the car
I respectfully disagree, i know of 2 people who got the model S in 15-16. They both had to replace the batteries replaced last and this year (almost right outside of their warranty periods), I can't be sure how many km's they clocked, but i know they don't drive it much, their both yuppie mums that used them to go to the local cafe & for the alternating school pickup/dropoff. Highly doubt they went over 200kkms.
Unfortunately you can't say stuff like that without actually giving these cars their full lifecycle, of which most the current model y's and 3's haven't reached yet.
If you plan to keep one of these cars for more than 8 years or 192,000kms (the warranty that Tesla provides on the battery), then YES you should factor in the battery replacement costs. Further more, if you plan to re-sell one, OR buy second hand you need to keep the cost of a battery replacement in mind.
Much like if i were to buy an old ICE vehicle that's nearing EOL, i like to know how much it would cost me to do a major service, or in some cases an engine rebuild/replacement.I want to be very clear, i'm not anti EV, i actually really want EV's to succeed. We just need more visibility on what the actual cost of ownership is over the vehicles life.
well the S was the pioneer, those batteries got hot during use and while charging
thermal management is everything when it comes to battery degradation
also it's worth noting that ICE cars are usually scraped beyond 200km, this is what i meant to the life of the car, not years but mileage and in comparison to what most people would appreciate the average cars life to be
older models are getting +80% battery life after +320k kms, newer models will prove to be better and LFP variants, with the same care, will double these figures
https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/study-real-life-tesla-battery-d…your friends likely abused the battery by draining it to 0 and then supercharging it to 100% every time, it's like never even bothering to do an oil change on an ICE and expecting it to last 100k kms
if you keep charge between 20 - 80%, primarily use a home charger the battery isn't something you'll likely have to worry about - unless of course you're involved in a prang, run over something, etc
your friends likely abused the battery by draining it to 0 and then supercharging it to 100% every time
I disagree, however this is not something that either you or i can prove, so it's a mute point.
However you do raise an interesting point in battery mistreatment which raises other issues. IF the requirement for EV's is to keep the battery between 20 & 80% & not supercharge (to avoid mistreatment), then we have another problem on our hand. Let's be realistic, when somebody needs to charge their car they are likely going to do 1 of the following:
- Fast charge somewhere (which in your opinion is like not doing an oil change on an ICE)
- When the car is home, plug it in and just keep it charging overnight, which should bring it to 100% (which again is like not doing an oil change on an ICE).If these are the criteria for mistreatment of EV batteries, then I think we need to accept the reality that many if not MOST Tesla's will have mistreatment of their batteries, which would make the 2nd hand market a nightmare….which would make them nearly worthless (even within 8 years of ownership like the model S's i described).
So this 8 years warranty (192,000kms) & my original point that it's inevitable that the batteries will need to be replaced in their lifespan becomes even more important.
We need to accept that if these cars don't get into crashes they will need to get their batteries replaced in their lifetime. There is no problem with this, it's inevitable. However, I believe we need more visibility behind what those costs are going to be. Furthermore if Tesla can't supply it at a realistic price then we should be allowed to put other brands of batteries in there.
IMO, people that say these cars should never need a battery replacement are being ignorant. The oldest model S's, Y's, and 3's in Aus are 9.5, 5 and 2 years old…That's not enough time to make such a judgement call. That's like being in 2022 and saying NFT prices will never crash…
We should accept that these batteries need replacement, and instead make it so these replacements can be done affordably and sustainably.@whitepuma: i apologise, i wasn't clear
it's not that you should never supercharge, but rather supercharging increases battery degradation - so if you exclusively use supercharging to charge your battery it's abuse, you are going to significantly shorten it's life
ideally you really should have a home charger, it's not only significantly cheaper but better for the battery, you can still get decent speeds with it and if you combine it with a solar array/home battery you could potentially eliminate both electric and fuel bills with the combined infrastructure and power everything with the sun
also why would you charge it to 100% unless you need it, just set regular charging level to 80% in the computer and you never have to worry about it again, unless you are going on a road trip - if you're ignorant then fine, but we are talking about people who are concerned about battery longevity in which case they wouldn't be stupid enough to charge to 100% unless necessary
supercharging should be use when needed, not as the primary source of charging - back in the early S days most people just used superchargers, especially with the free fill ups that tesla was offering
as for being ignorant you can only look at the data we have like the link i posted in my previous comment, there is enough sample data there with mileage and degradation rates to make an educated guess
as for double the range with LFP variants, this just has been proven for decades, it's just the chemistry, batteries are batteries, so putting them in a car or anything else it doesn't matter, the difference is these are super massive batteries with practically climate control and AI assisted charging patterns - the newer the revision the better
This reminds me of the time when it as race to the bottom with AMP stocks.. I’d say hold on to your money folks.. this will go downhill fast…
Got my MYRWD last year in may for 72k 🥲🥲🥲
Mine was $73500 with $5K EAP
I won here by loosing more lol, 78K
Is that with EAP? Or just base model?
I feel you. I bought my RWD Model Y in June, 2022 for $72k also. These price drops are a real kick in the teeth for those who bought early. Our vehicles' depreciation has just been annihilated.
Same! 72K net of the 3K NSW gov rebate. Oh well, at least it still has the sensors. Lol! (Not really better). Would want a better suspension as the new Y has.
$78k for us with induction wheels. Picked up in Sep 22 🥹
You're move BYD.
I'd take and Atto 3 but this mid sized SUV is only 6k more (excluding Elon is a (profanity) tax).
And you Volvo, your ex30 is more that this, and it's a glorified hatchback
EX30 has no proper cluster. It's a budget car without half the interior thats why its cheap.
Apples to apples with a Tesla
Was pretty disappointed when we checked out the ex30 over the weekend. Everything about it felt basic but for a premium price tag.
BYD should reduce their price.
Dolphin should be $35k-$40k
Atto 3 ~ $42k - $45k
Knock Sealion 6 & Seal down by $1k each, all trim.
But they probably won't. And this is from me who already got an Atto 3. BYD wants to make 25k sale this year, this is the way to go.
Dropping quicker than a meme stock.
The novated lease companies must be getting hounded, they are pushing electric vehicle's
Yes thanks to the Albanese Govt there are tax benefits which are being snapped up .
yes just don't go Remserv, Maxxia or Smartleasing they are a rip off and take advantage of people
I am with Aust Fed Govt so I don't think I have a choice but to go to Smartleasing. Is it their interest rates that are high?
Ditto on this front, only have smartleasing as an option - what’s the concern?
@cycloneaussie: well concern is that because that's your only option they are going to rape ya with the highest amount possible
unless your employers has an exemption by the ACCC or is a government agency, your employer has to give you at least 2 options in providers otherwise it's called Third Line Forcing and yes illegal
anyway all the NL companies that have parent companies listed on the ASX are scum they don't give 2 fuks about lowering the cost for you because of their market share in the industry
@Poor Ass: Very helpful - had no idea two options were required by law. Was just about to hit the apply button today with them. Thanks !
@cycloneaussie: only required by law if they are not an exempt entity
but it depends on the relationship you have with your employer…. if they say you have one choice then you need to pick your fights to either challenge them and say you have to provide at least 2 choices or you just go with the only choice and pay what ever they charge.
Now we just need bigger energy rebates. How am I supposed to charge all 3 of my Teslas?
probably those places listed as free charging on PlugShare aka power point under the Bunnings sign
It was a joke but yes. I regularly update PlugShare with new places I find.
Stealing from the Bunnings BBQ power points is a new one.
yeah I was joking too and it's not BBQ power point it's the power points under Bunnings pylon
well that's the thing it's a bit of a grey area…..you know how some places like library / public places lets you charge your phone / usb….. no one really know where the line is in charging your EV… technically if you don't own it then it's stealing but charging your phone and small devices is acceptable? hmm
@Poor Ass: If carpark owners don't want people using the power points I think they should cover them up otherwise they're asking for it. This guy learned the hard way of what happens when you steal power but as you can see from the image he had to open up a power box to access it.
solar array + a big ass solar array
Japan has that figured out. In Fukushima all the abandoned rice fields are being converted to solar farms. Never have I ever seen so many solar panels in one place.
FYI - range model 3 is also impacted by the price drop
See the 🤡 selling them on carsales for 75k+
Who's going to tell them 😂
I kNoW wHaT i Got.
By Christmas they'll drop another 10%.
Is this Ozbargain? Everyone upset about prices dropping!
Weird place ozb became. Prices drop for one of the best, if not the best, EVs, then outrage starts because the founder is eccentric*
*not a synonym for a mass-murderer, criminal, human-trafficker, etc.Founder sucks but ozb is all about the B.
They need to bring back EV rebates for people who aren’t able to go on novated leases to even the playing field. QLD still gets a $6k rebate.
Queenslanderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
very attractive price of under $60k
believe the price drop in Telsa will bring down other EV prices too
will be interested to see the initial price of VW ID4 and ID5 launching soon in AustraliaThe bottom has literally disappeared from the EV sales in the USA so I think we are going to be seeing significant drops in EVs in Australia. To be honest I think we will see these in the high 30s before long as Tesla is looking down the barrel of a chinese invasion of their EVs across the world. There's no way that a US car manufacturer can compete on a grand scale with these chinese companies. I mean BYD make batteries for a lot of other EVs so of course they have the reigns and will ensure that their own vehicles are better. The only thing that will save Tesla is if the BYD cars turn out to be not very good long term. Only time will tell as we have no history. At least with the long term gas driven vehicles we can see a history and know what issue there might be.
I believe Tesla is now eye on new market like Robo-taxi and FSD subscriptions
while continuing on their mass productions in EVs with low profit margin (still one of the highest margin in EV brands given the economic of scale, and automated production process)
which bring significant advantage against other EV brands including BYDWell said. Even after discounting their cars, Tesla is still making money on cars while other EV companies are struggling to make profit apart from BYD.
wow another massive price drop. Normally, this would seem like a great time to buy but will it drop in price again next month?
So I have loan greater than the value of my car?
Yes. I saw this coming a long time ago with EV pricing.
Yes some people on Novated Leases will now have loans for more than their car costs new.
Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they don't want, to impress people that they don't like.
As James would say, It’s sad..but true..
In general your statement is true even without this price cut….
Can we expect more price drop and see the prices in under 50s :)
Yes I think we will see them drop under 40k before long.
This deal should be expired. Model Y just dropped further to $55,900
No, it's $55,900, plus $1,400 delivery fee and $400 order fee = $57,700
I am happy to keep waiting for the base RWD to drop to a price starting with a $4
Just buy 7 of them for $403,900
Didn’t work out for hertz so might be a pass for me.
I paid 69.3k drive away a year ago for base white Y (through an FBT free lease though). Same car 10k cheaper now.
Oh well, have really enjoyed driving it and have had no issues at all. Charging is basically free I don't do road trips and charge at 32amps during the OVO free window 11am-2pm the vast majority of the time. Otherwise top up off excess solar.
That drop in $10K is not even taking depreciation in to consideration. If depreciation is 10% thats $17k in one year or $46 per day its cost you. I fail to understand how they are cheaper to run than a petrol car. Sorry.
It's an EV Sales gimmick
I think EV will have very low resale value after 8 years, so depreciation might even be more than 10%….
I agree, I was being very generous with 10%. Its more likely closer to 15% but I didnt want to argue and lose the point I was trying to make
I didn't buy it specifically to save money. I enjoy driving it and the tech aspect of all the features and updates.
Not having to ever talk to a salesperson or servicing department and free charging is a bonus.
If I look at a random 2023 BMW SUV around the same price, is the depreciation rate really that different?
https://www.redbook.com.au/cars/details/2023-bmw-x3-sdrive20…So I suppose having done close to 20,000k kms. If I had an equivalent mid size SUV doing 10l/100km for family city duties. I'm just guessing avg cost 95ron fuel maybe $2.20? Total $4400.
vs
20,000kms almost free with a 4.2c a km tax deducation $820 - https://www.ato.gov.au/tax-and-super-professionals/for-tax-p…
Not a reason to buy it I agree, but all part of the overall decision making process to weigh up
Ok. That’s quite a lot of Km. That makes it come out better with that amount of use.
you on 3 phase?
Single phase 32amp - approx 7.6kw. Max speed the Tesla Wall Connector supports on 3 phase is 11kw.
that's great to know about the OVO free window, but can you somehow set timer in the model Y to charge between those times? or do you need to use some kind of timer at the powerpoint?
You can do either. Though the better way would be to use something like chargehq (its free).
cool thanks mate, if we buy a tesla then we might consider switching to OVO (from Powershop currently) :)
Can you imagine the costs to Tesla holding onto that much unsold inventory. With this price drop I'd say Tesla are getting desperate, pumping out this many cars without being able to sell them will bankrupt them quickly.
Yeah, I absolutely think, from my perspective, I can sum it all up in one word, HODL!
Tesla do have a crazy amount of cash reserves so they can hold on for a bit.
You better go negging every Aldi deal as they're all RRP.
Inb4 the haters come and say it's different because "limited supply". A lot of deals sold below RRP are limited supply too.