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Seagate 22TB Expansion External Hard Drive US$303.51 Delivered (~A$487.28) @ QuickDealStore Amazon US

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On the lookout to back up my plex server data. I was reminded recently on reddit that RAID is not back up even if it is RAID6 (for the record I don't disagree). Was waiting for prices to go down but it doesn't look like it will anytime soon.

Slightly better per TB price compared to this deal.

17/05/25 22TB is now back to US$300 prior to gst and delivery. But 24TB is available for US$280 ++.

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  • +2

    Shuckable?

    • That's what previous deal's comments say.

  • Can these be shucked for nas? I've been needing cheap drives.

    • +11

      You may want to consider EastDigital offers then. My nas has 4 of their 16tb exos (sold as new) for a couple of years now going ok. as I recall they were slightly less than $300 aud each delivered when on sale.

      • +4

        I think I've been hearing on ozb that the refurbished drives are dying a lot after a year or two

        • +3

          Anyone buying refurb is basically throwing money into a fire. If you care about your data you don't buy refurb.

          • @Tacooo: How are those refurb drives any different to any other drives that are already a couple of years old? Assuming they weren't damaged in shipping.

        • +4

          Used drives don't last as long as new ones?

          • +1

            @spaceflight: The answer is very obvious statistically. Otherwise they won't be "used".

            Just that HDD can, in general, have a very long life compared to the warranty period. Some models, such as WD HC550, are known to be very reliable. When used or recertified drives have a significant price advantage, they suddenly become worth it.

            Though always back your data up. No matter whether you're using new or old drives.

      • how many days+hours "Power on time" did it showed when you got it?
        and what was the estimated remaining lifetime?

        you can view this info in "hard disk sentinel", if you got that software

        • Mine were brand new. I don't buy refurb time bombs.

          • +3

            @Tacooo: was asking the person that bought the EastDigital hdds

            • +3

              @pinkybrain: Yeah I know, but I have the same drives from the same seller, 2.5 years on 6x of them, 365TB written per disk and 3.1PB read per disk. Just offering some extra insight considering they also said they bought new, not refurb.

            • @pinkybrain: they showed zero power on time. I don't think there is an estimated life remaining parameter for hdd's (but there is for ssd's).

              • +1

                @WhatsTheBigDeal: install hard disk sentinel
                it shows an estimated life remaining..

                also I when you mention EastDigital I thought your hdd was refurbed, due to the deals that have been posted lately on here…
                so my mistake

          • @Tacooo: You buy brand new time bombs?

            I guess that is a choice. 😃

        • See mine (8x18TB HC550 pulls) here: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/16476062/redir

      • +4

        Agreed on this. My server has had 6x 16TB Exos running for 24/7 for 2.5 years without issue. Approx 365TB written on each disk, approx 3.1PB read from each disk. All show good SMART status.

        • +8

          That’s a lot of Linux ISOs.

        • +2

          do you have link for your NAS or server model?
          how much did you paid for the NAS and also all the hdd?

          what RAID do you use?
          and do you have offsite backup?

          • @pinkybrain: No NAS, Dell T620 server. Proxmox OS w/ Windows virtuals. Server was ~$300 after upgrades (secondhand). Drives were about $1900 for the 6x. Need another 6x to fill the server. Need another 12x on top of that for offsite backup. Had offsite backup but main server died, haven't setup again. Use RAID-Z2.

      • I've shucked 3 X WD back in 2019 and still running solid. Looking to upgrade in size now though

  • +2

    Interesting discussion on these drives here: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1jvpivx/what_i…

    Conflicting reports on what exactly these drives are, but they seem to helium filled, and might actually be Exos or Ironwolf that are labelled lower as Barracuda's. tl;dr: No one's really sure, but read/write tests and temperature checks look promising.

    • +5

      Reports from that reddit thread indicate that it's a ST22000DM000 white label Barracuda 7200rpm 22TB drive.

    • +3

      Some photos from the Reddit channel. https://imgur.com/VJtsSRb

    • +2

      and might actually be Exos or Ironwolf that are labelled lower as Barracuda's.

      Lots of high end drives that don't meet the specification for that drive end up branded as a lower tier drive

      • I would say most drives do. Companies are cheap and will usually make a tonne of one drive that is their most popular. The standards of the finished drive will vary, so they just relabel it to what they need to in their model range. They even can limit the speed from the original 7200 to 5400, to cater to lower rated model specs

    • +1

      All large format drives are He drives. Air drives cannot do such capacity.

      Seagate and WD strategies are similar - same body, different binning and firmware for different tier of products. If price is right, go for the highest tier (HC for WD and Exos for Seagate) possible. Though there's not much you can do if you're determined to shuck external drives. I have shucked drives from both brands in service, and they're generally reliable. But HDD quality is always a russian roulette game. That's what makes RAID and/or backup so important.

      FYI recently Seagate starts to sell dedicated recertified drives models. In the past recertified drives always carry its original model number. Just be aware.

  • +15

    $22.14/TB

  • +8

    I had mine on the top of my PC tower on the floor, and accidentally dropped it onto the carpet below (not even 30cm) and it instantly stopped working.

    I’m sure most won’t be as dumb, but don’t be like me!

    • what was the distance from top of pc to the carpet?

      when you plug it in, it powers on but just not show the drive letter?

      • +3

        what was the distance from top of pc to the carpet?

        That was discussed here https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/16507387/redir

      • +3

        Yeah and it makes a clicking sound, it’s gone.

        I took it to a local data recovery service in Melbourne and they quoted me $4k with no guarantee of data recovery.

        • +13

          Do they take you to dinner first as part of that service?

        • -2

          You realize that anyone with a pc can get the same recovery software for free to try and get the data back. I've done it myself a couple of times. Although it can be a very slow process if you have a huge amount of files.

          • +5

            @Water Bearer:

            You realize that anyone with a pc can get the same recovery software for free to try and get the data back

            yeah you can use software to try to recover the data (if it is logical data recovery)
            but if the damage is physical it is a lot more complex and not so easy to do it at home (without possibly damaging your hdd)
            so a professional data recovery center may be better if the data is very important

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0QkafslnrM

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3lPghtUucs

            • -1

              @pinkybrain: The whole point is to try that first, as its free! If there is physical damage from the drop to the carpeted floor. It would be something like loose platters or sata port/pins thats been bent. Again that kind of thing is a cheap replacement from anyone with a solder. People think these data recovery places are special. They are not! They are mostly scams for people who have no idea about PCs. As they can charge whatever they like, they obviously have no idea whats wrong as they didnt open it up or have a detailed look to see if they could recover it. Also said no guarantee! but still quoted you $4K!
              Only time you would need to go a high end professional data recovery, is if a hard drive has been encrypted and locked. Virus infected drives are easy to recover too. Please dont use those companies. Theres many independent tech businesses that will help you out, either small shops or someone on gumtree.

        • +3

          I took it to a local data recovery service in Melbourne and they quoted me $4k with no guarantee of data recovery.

          a place like that should be avoided

          https://youtu.be/v0QkafslnrM?t=226

        • +1

          Huge mistake taking it to an Aussie company, bring it overseas at your next trip $50 bucks and your data is saved

          • @Headless: any specific countries in mind? I'm guessing Asia?

    • Same thing happened to me but on hard flooring.

    • I had the similar, back when 1tb was an epic amount of data. Drive was on it's side (as designed), next to the tower… Near my feet. Yeah, my foot tugged the power cable, which pulled the drive over. Slap. Whiz-tick-whiz-tick-whiz-tick.

  • Apparently some of the East Digital FRs are actually from models similar to this

    • Not really. They bought their FRs in batch either directly from Seagate or through a B2B reseller. Normally only big datacenters are doing so to lower TCO on storage. Just happened that they (and some other sellers) see the profitability to sell FR to customers.

      I only heard people shucking drives commercially and reselling them during the 2011 Thailand flood. Otherwise it's not very justifiable business-wise.

      Also it's very rare to see "factory recertified" drives in new consumer external drives with enclosure, as manufacturers can simply put downgraded/binned drives in those enclosures. FR drives are, number-wise, binned higher than those models.

  • How does the warranty work if buying from Amazon US?
    Thanks.

    • I think outside of the normal amazon return window then out of luck and try manufacturer 1 year warranty

      • Also depends on how lucky you're, you may get Australian warranty (2-3 years) when RMA directly with Seagate. Really depends on whoever oversee your RMA case.

    • It’s either a worldwide warranty (so you are dealing with Seagate in Singapore) or it’s a vendor warranty so you’re dealing with the vendor (US?).

      Amazon tend to offer 90 day coverage on top of this.

      You have to check yourself..

  • Finally good to see some shuckable prices coming in… pity I don't need another drive. yet.

    • +3

      I don't need another drive either. I do however need six…

      • Make it 7 or 8. Larger array or with a cold spare.

  • Showing US$249 for me

    • +3

      If adding to cart at checkout postage GST and everything added it is $486 ish AUD

  • +14

    3rd pty seller.
    No I don't trust a random seller which only has 85% positive feedback at the risk of 22TB of data.

    • +3

      What about if you only had to risk say, 21TB of data?

      • Inversion point is 20.9tb.

    • TB, Tb or tB

  • That's a good price per TB. Does it come with US power supply? Do you need to get an AU adaptor to make it compatible for local voltage?

    • +1

      They usually come with US adapters but with global voltage.

      In some cases those US power supply have exchangeable plugs (just not come with AU plug) and you may be able to find compatible plugs, as many are from reputable OEM brands such as Delta, Huntkey, ASP, FSP, where you may find a replacement plug from many other electronics. For example, I bought some Dell Wyse 3040 thin clients that comes with 5V ASP power adapters with exchangeable AU plugs, while some of WD MyBook drives from Amazon US also have 12V ASP adapters but with US plugs. And the plugs are totally interchangeable.

      • Thank you very much for the explanation

    • +2

      It comes with a plug with multi face plates so you choose which plug for your country so yes you can pick the aussie prongs

  • When I change the currency on the link to Australia it says

    AUD389.93 No Import Fees Deposit & AUD 40.45 Shipping to Australia

    Total cost $430.38

    What did I do wrong …. Or right.

    • Have you already ordered?

    • +1

      Plus GST

  • So should be able to buy 2 without getting hit with import duty.

    • No?

      You’ll be required to pay GST when it’s imported (it is either added to your price and collected at checkout, or it will be held in Customs and a notice sent to you).

      In some rare cases it may slip through but that would be the exception.

      The $1000 exempt threshold was scrapped some time ago (thanks Gerry Harvey).

  • Honestly wouldn't trust this for a primary or backup. My last Seagate was full of data corruption and drive errors after around 60 hours connected over the space of ~13 months. Speeds were also atrocious and got worse as the errors increased. The drive was never dropped or treated badly. Constantly running tools to try to mark bad sectors etc and eventually gave up on it. The Seagate before that even worse, died with no warning. Meanwhile I have WDs with tens of thousands of hours no errors.

    A better solution is a removable drive caddy and use an ex-enterprise for backup. It'll be louder, but better to have the sound of certainty than clicks of failure.

    • +1

      I don't think you can generalise - you might have just had a bad drive.

      I had 8 x 8TB Seagate Barracuda drives running (the ones you aren't supposed to run in a NAS) - some shucked, some not, in two Synology NASs 24/7 for 7 or 8 years. Never had any issues. Before that I had 8 x 4TB Seagate Barracuda drives in each, same story.

      I upgraded almost 2 years ago to 8 x 18TB WD in each. In one of them the drives were Data Center refurbs, the other were shucked. Again running 24/7 and I have had no issues.

      I have 2 spares on hand in case either goes down but have not needed them so far.

      • +1

        1080P to 4K Linux Distros?

      • I had one previously that simply died. I'm going to call 2 for 2 and Backblazes stats more than coincidence. Simply my experience, others can trust what they want with their data.

  • Is it possible to do raid on hard drive of different capacity using partitions? Eg 16tb (disk 1) and 16tb(disk2-part1), with 6tb (disk2-part2) free?

    • +2

      Generally not advisable. If raid it would be lowest drive size. I am running unRaid and one parity drive as backup. Meaning one drive can fail as one parity. Parity drive must be the biggest drive. In unRaid you can mix the drives in different sizes and brand (best is to have same type of speed on drives). On a normal Nas box not common to partition as you said. Not sure if even possible. If so the 6tb partition wouldn't be backed up.

    • “Is it possible”?

      Yes.

      “Is it sensible”?

      No

      Hope that helps.

  • +1

    its showing 249$ and by looking at size does anyone think that is one single drive ? or two 3.5 disks together? its 22TB and i have not seen any 11TB drive so silly question but just want to check before i order it. no plan for NAS. just going to use as USB drive only with lots of linux ISO

  • +1

    Price came to $476.54 on ing

  • Anyone have delivery of their drive yet? Some recent reviews on Amazon haven't looked promising. DOA, damaged, drive swapped out…
    Mine still otw, but this doesn't look good.

    • +2

      Mine have been "delayed in transit" for a couple of weeks now, they appear to have arrived in Sydney and then gone missing. Amazon gave me a refund and said if the drives show up I can keep them… Highly doubt they will show up at this point

      • Did you contact Amazon US or Australia?

        • +1

          I just contacted Amazon US (where I bought it through), and they've just issued me with a refund now as well.

          • @matthewpoon: via chat or phone call?

          • +1

            @matthewpoon: This is the response I got "
            Thanks for confirming.
            Sometimes the package gets mis-scanned as delivered and it gets delivered later.
            Come back for a refund or a replacement depending on the availability if your package does not arrive by 3 PM GMT+8, Friday, May 30.
            Please wait until then, as no action can be taken when the order is still within the delivery cycle.
            That way you also don't have to go through the hassle of getting back to us to arrange a return for the extra replacement or to reverse the refund.
            "

            • +1

              @jamba: I basically said to them that I know others who have ordered the same product and received a refund as basically nothing has changed with the tracking for over a week. The agent then said he will see what the best he could do for me, and returned quickly to say a full refund. I haven't actually got the refund as we speak, but I'm sure it's in the refund process.

      • +1

        Yep mine got "delayed in transit" at Sydney and I got a refund, I then ordered 2 x 24TB as they were on special and this time they got to West Melbourne and have now been "delayed in transit" for a few days. Something fishy going on with these "deals".

    • I received mine. But, it was clicking so loudly for a couple of days that I've sent it back as faulty.

  • 24tb is even cheaper

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DVM1Z46T?th=1

    $436AUD plus postage

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