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Aus Falcon on 02/07/2025 - 21:05 iview.abc.net.au (2464 clicks)
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Currently available for a very limited time on ABC iview until 8:56pm AEST 22 Jul 2025 12:52am on 21 Aug 2025.

https://iview.abc.net.au/show/louis-theroux-the-ultra-zionis…

In this provocative documentary, Louis Theroux travels to the West Bank to meet Jewish settlers living in some of the most controversial and politically sensitive areas. With his signature calm and inquisitive style, Theroux explores the motivations, beliefs, and tensions that define life among ultra-nationalist Zionists, shedding light on the complex realities of the the region.

Also available, is the very hard to get until the ABC posted it 2 weeks ago is Louis Theroux: The Settlers. This does not have an expiry date, but don't be surprised if it is taken down soon as it has been done with services in several other countries.

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  • Gavman on 03/07/2025 - 10:36
    -1

    Wow didn't think there would be so many antisemites on Ozbargains. And I thought Jews were tight LOL

    • Aus Falcon on 03/07/2025 - 10:49
      +8

      If you see any genuine antisemitism, please report it. Antisemitism has no place on Ozbargain.

      • tottenman on 03/07/2025 - 10:55
        -3

        plenty in this thread

        • Aus Falcon on 03/07/2025 - 11:06
          +7

          Have you reported them?
          If not why not?

          • tottenman on 03/07/2025 - 11:18
            -1

            @Aus Falcon: too many and no point - welcome to the internet. hotbed of antisemitic soup

            • Aus Falcon on 03/07/2025 - 11:19
              +1

              @tottenman: there is a point, and it works. the mods ban people and remove inappropriate comments all the time, it's up to us as a community to report it.

            • RecklessMonkeys on 03/07/2025 - 11:51
              +5

              @tottenman:

              hotbed of antisemitic soup

              Crying wolf isn't going to work anymore.

      • Dreamcast on 03/07/2025 - 12:09
        +7

        Indeed. But anti Zionism can stick around.

        • tottenman on 03/07/2025 - 14:44

          define zionism

    • Dreamcast on 03/07/2025 - 12:09
      +7

      OK buddy, keep playing that card.

    • colblair on 03/07/2025 - 12:18
      +10

      Hi Gavman,

      Was there something factually incorrect about this documentary that you have issue with?

      Or is it antisemitism to report anything negative about Israel?

      • HereYeeHereYee on 03/07/2025 - 13:00
        +10

        the documentary is great, the zio extremists / settlers do the exposing themselves to show who they really are. Louis doesn't even need to do anything except let them speak haha

  • liongalahad on 03/07/2025 - 10:38
    +9

    I am not too suprised of the existence of extremist nationalist views within Israelis - after all they are a small minority compared to the extremist views in Palestine and generally in most arab countries. What's suprising and really quite alarming is that these views are well radicated in the current Israeli government, allowing settlers to steal land that is not theirs and further gaslighting a situation that is already a disaster.

    • Gavman on 03/07/2025 - 10:39
      -2

      Sure, but the Palestinians doing the same thing in Area C

      • liongalahad on 03/07/2025 - 10:47
        +4

        Area C is also illegaly occupied territory, at least on paper.
        Look, Im not a Palestine sympathiser at all, but I believe in their right of having their own state with no occupation as long as they do not give power to Hamas or any organisation promoting destrying Israel (and to be fair, most palestinian themselves do not want a 2-state solution at all)

        • Gavman on 03/07/2025 - 10:53
          -3

          Wrong, on paper it is NOT. Go back and look at the Oslo Accords agreement signed by PLO/Israel. There has been no agreement since then - Area C was agreed to be under Israeli control. Yet you find Palestinians are continuing on building illegally in those areas to try and increase its sovereignty over more areas. DYOR.. and for the record i agree with you on your last point there

          • liongalahad on 03/07/2025 - 11:01
            +5

            @Gavman: Uhm the Oslo accord had an agreement that Area C would remain temporarily under Israeli Control but with a plan of gradual transferring the territories back to the Palestinians, which never happened.

          • colblair on 03/07/2025 - 12:21
            +5

            @Gavman: The Oslo Accords were never meant to be permanent. They anticipated a final agreement within five years (ending in 1999), which never materialised.

            Why do you think this still has relevance today?

          • AdamSmash on 03/07/2025 - 13:39
            +3

            @Gavman: Never were Jews given land in Palestine at any stage without context. The context read' Must not displace'. Once you displace or use violence you forfeit the agreement.

        • tottenman on 03/07/2025 - 10:54
          -1

          ok and what if they never want to not give power to hamas, or promote destroying israel. Israel should just wait around and do nothing until this population comes to the party?

          • liongalahad on 03/07/2025 - 11:14

            @tottenman: Not at all. But bombing them and having more settlements will not facilitate this at all, obviously, to the contrary it will make this a lot harder to achieve.

            In my opinion the surrounding arab nations like Jordan and Egypt should actively promote a Palestinian government with no ties with Hamas and no intention whatsoever to destroy Israel and these states shoudl guarantee for the goverment to promote peace and prosperity, with total ban of any weapons (for at least a few years). Jordan and Egypt shoudl enforce this with their own army/police in the palestinan territories to prevent Hamas to make a comeback.
            If this happens Israel shoudl remove all settlements, withdraw from occupied territories and recognise the Palestinian state, and also, together with the international community, enact some sort of Marshall plan to promote the economic growth an proseprity of Palestine.

            • tottenman on 03/07/2025 - 11:16
              -1

              @liongalahad: do Israelis not have claim to any parts of Judea and Sumaria?

              • liongalahad on 03/07/2025 - 12:18
                +2

                @tottenman: Not under international law - one can quesiton international law of course, however nations must adhere to it no matter what, or else it's the jungle.

              • Bugs Bunny on 04/07/2025 - 12:03
                -1

                @tottenman: Jews have no claim anywhere apparently. Nobody has a problem with Jews, only Israel, but all the Jews should leave every country they're in.
                But let's not tell anyone that the word Jew comes from Judah which is the original name of Judea. That would just be another inconvenient truth for people's small minds to deal with.

    • tottenman on 03/07/2025 - 10:40

      im surprised that no one bats an eyelid when China, Turkey or Russia do the same thing but worse

      • liongalahad on 03/07/2025 - 10:53
        +3

        Israel is a country that is aligned in values and has strong militaty, economic and cultural ties with the US and the western world in general. This is the reason I believe why most people are compelled to criticise Israel and how they are handling the war in Gaza, becasue our society sees them as one of us and for a lot of people what they are doing doesn't sit well with that. Aside from this, I acknowledge that for a big big chunk of anti-Israel movements the reason for their actions is just anti-semitism, pure and simple.

        • Creamsoda on 03/07/2025 - 11:50
          +9

          Israel is a country that is aligned in values

          Which values? the values that they make up to the public or the values they enacted upon with endless wars and regime change which is Might Makes Right? Don't forget "Leader of the free world" fully backs Israeli actions.

          • liongalahad on 03/07/2025 - 12:10
            -1

            @Creamsoda: The values outlined in the constitution - democracy and equality. I agree often these values are left on the paper when covenient (not just Israel, any country)

            • StarGrapper on 03/07/2025 - 13:38
              +6

              @liongalahad: i like the perfect country you are talking about, but where is that?? because in Israel even Jews from African or Yemenies origions are second class and treated like ***, they even gave the ethiopian and yemenies jews who moved to israel shots not to reproduce because of Colour?!?!?! what rights of equality you are talking about? when a palestinian woman had a car crash, car burnt, lost her face and fingers, while her baby in the car, then by israeli police she was rushed to jail,, yes not a mistake, rushed to jail not hospital, and she was in prison for no trial for 7 years with no court, and she was released from prison during last trade with Hamas, and at the same time, settlers in westbank are expanding, not by area only, by KILLING CHILDREN (not in GAZA, in WESTBANK where no Hamas is their), and the IDF protects the settlers, and they left alone, no justice, no trials, no jails. and IDF shoots the dead children parents instead of settlers.

              • liongalahad on 03/07/2025 - 16:09

                @StarGrapper: Some of the things you claim are correct but for example the thing about ethiopinas jews was investigated and stopped back in 2012.
                The woman you talk about, Israa Jaabis, is not really clear to this day if she was a an attempted suicide bomb attack or an accident - but she was sentenced to jail, not imprisoned without trial.
                Settlers crimes are known and IDF complacency is terrible yeah, I totally agree.

                Israel is very far form being a perfect country, we all know it - but I believe part of the reason is the context where it's placed - the middle east, where human rights are generally pretty low in the list of the gorvernments priorities. Honestly, you can't expect to have Switzeland when surrounded by Syria, Lebanon, Egypt etc and thorughout the years they all want you wiped from the map. In this context Israel does pretty well actually compared to the other countries around, with free elections, LGBT right etc. But then again there are plenty of examples showing how some of the minorities are not respected as they should and their rights are stepped on continuously…

                Anyway, my mention of their constitution being based on democracy was mainly to explain why Israel is considered a "western" county in this sense, it was not an assessment on the actual level of democracy and respcto fo human rights they have.

                • StarGrapper on 04/07/2025 - 08:39
                  -1

                  @liongalahad: First point, is an absolute lie, it was already proved and confessed. cry somewhere else.

                  2nd point, for Israa Jaabis, even her lawyer didn't know what was she IMPRISONED FOR, she had no trials, and she had her baby with her, and wow, 7 years it is still not clear? Israel saw the nuclear facility of fordo in Iran and can't have an answer if she attempted a bomb attack? please try another card.

                  3rd point first of all, arab world which is middle east existed thousands of years ago, and israel is 77 years old, this means its an implanted parasite in the middle east, and regarding the arab world, switzerland and the rest of the western world were learning from the middle east until israel was implanted and then started to destroy it with their agents and money. the exact same reason the painter changed his job.

                  as for LGBT rights in 3rd point, nearly 90% or more from LGBT around the world standing with palestine and being mocked badly and attacked very bad, but when it comes to human rights you start talking about how good you are with them?? please dont make me laugh, this card is burnt, please try another one.

                  4th point, Democracy in Israel is only for the jews, Arabs can never elect, get a proper job, and even talk. i personally know people were jailed because they sent a message on whatsapp to a friend on 7th and 8th of october simple because they asked what happened, or another woman had filmed a kids program dancing for her channel which is teaching dancing classes for kids, and heaps heaps more, countless cases, and so many of them are IMPRISONED until this moment!! democracy my a55. so please stop your propaganda.

                  Israel is a PARASITE, TERRORIST, IMPLANTED STATE CREATED BY THE ZIONIST MOVEMENT IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THE ARE BUILT ON HATRED, TERRORISM, THEY CALLING FOR ERADICATING ARABS, CHANTING DEATH TO ALL ARABS AND CHRISTIANS, AND BACKED UP BY THEIR OWNED MEDIA, AND THEIR OWNED LEADERS OF OTHER COUNTRIES, JUST LIKE UNITED STATES OF ISRAEL.

                  so go cry somewhere else baby,, and do your best crying

                  • liongalahad on 04/07/2025 - 10:05

                    @StarGrapper: I honestly stopped reading at the end of the first line as you had already spat your dummy - and with a quick glance at the rest of your message looks like you replied to my message with a truckload of vomit. I have no interest in discussing further with someone who talks more like a football hooligan than a reasonable person. You just don't realise whatever is your cause, behaving like a screaming child will be wholly detrimental to it. It's also for this attitude of yours, people like Trump and Nethanyau are elected again and again. Im just hoping you are no older than 15. Have a good life

                    • StarGrapper on 04/07/2025 - 10:16

                      @liongalahad: nice new shiny card :D :D :D

                      if it is too hard to read, dont write in public, if you can't handle truth, dont lie in the first place, if you can't defend zionism, be an ostrich and dig your face in pig sh!t. if you can't read this, lets keep it for record.

                      • liongalahad on 04/07/2025 - 10:17

                        @StarGrapper: please refrain to comment further, as I said I have no interest in speaking with someone who is either extremely stupid or extremely young.

                        • StarGrapper on 04/07/2025 - 10:54
                          -1

                          @liongalahad: please refrain to comment further, as I said I have no interest in speaking with someone who is either extremely stupid or extremely young.

      • AdamSmash on 03/07/2025 - 14:17
        +4

        China has not done anything but be attacked. Vietnam war I think was the last time China was at war. On the good side defending against invaders.
        Russia has killed far less civilians than Israel despite being engaged in an almost all out war for survival. Israel is pretending to fight a tiny militia number no more than 25,000 at any time. How is there 350,000 civilians deaths if not done on purpose?
        Turkey is a member of NATO? It has a Western dictator puppet.

        • tottenman on 03/07/2025 - 14:31
          -1

          china doesnt have 1 mil muslims in camps? occupies territories? Nope move along, no one batters an eyelid.

        • liongalahad on 03/07/2025 - 17:10
          +1

          China has done anything but be attacked? - lol -Tibet? Those buddhist monks must have been very threatening to Mao's army, right?

          Russia in an all-out war "for survival"? - lol - More like all-out war to invade and take another country's territory and pace a puppet government in power.

          350,000 civilian death? lol that's almost 5 times more than what Hamas itself has declared.

          Your post shows how much misinformation people in love with their ideas spread around like the plague

  • bargainloverau on 03/07/2025 - 11:48
    +6

    I watched this years ago and thought it was a brilliant documentary. I definitely recommend everyone watch it while it’s still available, as these perspectives often don’t get much exposure.

    • DogGunn on 03/07/2025 - 12:05
      +5

      The documentary is from this year…

      • Dreamcast on 03/07/2025 - 12:11

        He's a cybernetic organism sent from the future

      • wizza13 on 03/07/2025 - 13:08
        +10

        No, the one posted by OP (The Ultra Zionists) is from 2011.

        Louis Theroux also made The Settlers which is from this year.

        • DogGunn on 03/07/2025 - 13:48
          +2

          Apologies to OP, you are 100% correct.

    • MrZ on 04/07/2025 - 02:06

      I can't believe there are actually people who haven't seen this at least once in the last 14 years.

  • AdamSmash on 03/07/2025 - 12:32
    +15

    Louis is Jewish. I have not watched this in full yet but there is no denying this is a true account of how evil the Zionists are. Israel must never be forgiven nor anyone who supported them materially should be forgiven and all MUST be brought to justice.
    There are many good Jews which I will list below including Louis who detest the Zionist project, so I don't blame all Jews in general nor should anyone else.
    Max Blumenthal
    Glen Greenwald
    Aaron & Gabor Mate
    Dave Smith

    • Aus Falcon on 03/07/2025 - 12:33
      +3

      Anthony Lowenstein

    • Dreamcast on 03/07/2025 - 12:43
      +3

      Ilan Pappé

    • AlexF on 03/07/2025 - 12:45

      Louis is Jewish

      that’d be true only if his mother is Jewish - she’s not.

      • AdamSmash on 03/07/2025 - 12:57
        +3

        Here we go. If you went through becoming a man by the Jewish practice you are officially a Jew. Just cope!

        bar mitzvah
        /bɑː ˈmɪtsvə/
        noun
        noun: bar mitzvah; plural noun: bar mitzvahs; noun: barmitzvah; plural noun: barmitzvahs

        the initiation ceremony of a Jewish boy who has reached the age of 13 and is regarded as ready to observe religious precepts and eligible to take part in public worship.
        • AlexF on 03/07/2025 - 18:26
          +3

          Bar Mitzvah ceremony doesn’t make anyone Jewish. Either you’re born one or (very unlikely) you converted. Louis is neither.

    • Strange1 on 03/07/2025 - 13:26
      -1

      There are something like 15 million Jews in the world.

      How nice of you to cast aspirations on the whole religion, but point out there 5 of them who really aren't that bad.

    • Stueyz on 03/07/2025 - 15:04
      +1

      @AdamSmash:Norman Finkelstein is another brave Jewish advocate for Palestinian rights whose parents survived the holocaust

      • AdamSmash on 05/07/2025 - 14:06

        100% but his monotone voice is a bit painful to listen to.
        Jeffrey Sachs is the man when explaining how the Western worlds really operates.

    • poppingtags on 03/07/2025 - 17:06
      +1

      Norman Finkelstein

  • Captain Yobbo on 03/07/2025 - 12:39
    +4

    All the buzz about Israel & Palestine but not much about Myanmar, Sudan, Xinjiang etc. There's some hectic conflicts going on causing immense misery & displacement of people but zero reportage in the MSM. I love LT content but I think it's pretty obvious what's going on in Gaza at present & why Israel believes it has a mandate to level it (however wrong & awful that is). I wonder is this documentary even necessary or just feeding the desires of a market segment jonesing hard for another reason to hate Israelis / jews.

    • Dreamcast on 03/07/2025 - 12:52
      +7

      There's a clear difference, which is the reason this issue is highlighted more so.

      Stop the usual BS about hating Jews. It's hating Zionism.

      So let me get this straight, because Sudan, Myanmar, etc, get less attention, it means this issue should be ignored?? This is the weakest argument. "oh but why not mention this issue and this other issue" Same old crap.

      One of the biggest differences, is that the states commiting atrocities in these other countries are not playing the victim card while dropping 2000 pound bombs on civilian buildings.

      Let me guess:

      "bUt KhAmAs UseS hUmAn ShIeLdS"

      • Strange1 on 03/07/2025 - 13:01

        What is it about Zionism that you actually dislike? Bet you can't actually give a reasonable argument without looking it up.

        You've heard people saying "The zios" (a slur invented by the neo-nazis by the way) did this/did that. But have you actually stopped and researched what Zionism is about? Did you know there are many many forms of zionism ranging from the extreme in this documentary, to those who actually advocate to one-state with no policies based on religion . There are many many Israelis who identify as Zionist who actively protest every day against the war in Gaza.

        It's bigotry and racism. And people like you who repeat it "because it's cool" should be singled out.

        • Dreamcast on 03/07/2025 - 13:18
          +9

          Oh let me see, that it's a radical movement that the Orthodox Jews themselves hate?

          I could identity as a cow, doesn't mean I am one. Zionism at its root is fascist colonist settlement movement that advocates for the cleansing of Arabs.

          Nice try with calling out bigotry and racism. Calling out a genocidal movement is not racism.

          It's the idea that is the issue. I have no hate against anyone claiming to be Zionist and that is against the war in Gaza.

          I'm not saying all Zionist are evil, I'm saying the foundation of it, is evil.

          • Strange1 on 03/07/2025 - 13:25
            +3

            @Dreamcast: You couldn't actually identify what it is about Zionism you hate. "Zionism at its root is fascist colonist settlement movement", taken word for word from Anti-Zionist propaganda.

            What element of Zionism calls for the cleansing of Arabs? Anyone who actually knows anything about Zionism would tell you that's not the case.

            Your argument is the equivalent of me identifying Islamic acts of terrorism, and concluding that "All Muslims are terrorists". Really lowest common denominator stuff.

            There is a strong link between ignorance and bigotry. I appreciate it greatly that you've helped prove that link

            • StarGrapper on 03/07/2025 - 14:04
              +3

              @Strange1: let me help you out, you are correct, it does not call for cleansing of arabs, it is calling for the great empire of Israel, from Nile river in egypt, to Furat river in Iraq, going south all the way to the arab gulf, and cleansing earth from all non jewish people (thats the zionists goal, not all the jews), and once they are done, god is coming to earth living with them alone on earth so it will be pure god and jewish on earth. and to add to your knowledge, no one can convert to Judism and be an pure jewish, instead, he is considered a second class jewish and will live with them BUT ONLY AS A SERVANT.

              and regarding terrorism, can you please identify terrorism? because its always islamic terrorists of Iran, Iraq, Syria, Qaida, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Palestine, Lebanon, and what do they do? Nothing, they are all names for the media as a red flag for USA and ISRAEL to attack these countries, let me remind you of some cases? 9/11 and Afghanistan and Al Qaida, then Iraq, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, and lastly, Iran (preventative self defense initiated attack, which is another name of initial attack for no reason, causing red flag). so can you please define terrorism? because the only terrorists we can see are israel and all their helpers, as example in here in australia, the entire world consider UK to be terrorists to this land once they colonized it, isnt it?

              so the link you are talking about, applies only to you, however, a very nice topic opened by an ignorant using google which is operated by israeli 8200 promoting their holywood story.

              Israel right now lost all its support from the people, and slowly losing its support from governments starting by Europe. so, good luck with the remaining of Israel, keep in mind, Israel are BURNING FROM INSIDE BY THEM SELVES,

              oh before i go, why Cyrpus are worried? i think because Israeli's are moving to Cyprus and they are worried of an alternative Israel in Cyprus?! correct me if i am wrong. nearly 200k moved to cyprus in 12 days?!? who owns the land again?!?

              • Captain Yobbo on 03/07/2025 - 14:13
                +5

                @StarGrapper: This is totally off topic and you've hijacked my comment but I'd hazard a guess that attacking a music festival & indiscriminately murdering unarmed civilians constitutes a terrorist act, in the same way detonating a suicide bomb outside of an Aria Grande concert is. Claiming there is no terrorism on behalf of islamists is as unhinged as the rest of your conspiracy theories are. Maybe stick to Reddit if you want somewhere to circlejerk over the Great Satan etc etc

                • StarGrapper on 03/07/2025 - 14:22
                  +2

                  @Captain Yobbo: yup, when it revealing truth, it is off topic, and the music festival was in 1947, and the rest of your comment is really nice to read, but cannot get into my head, not even my a55 :D

                • StarGrapper on 03/07/2025 - 14:23
                  +4

                  @Captain Yobbo: also, Hijacked your comment? oh sorry for that little girl, isnt this a public forum? or was it promised to you 3000 years ago??

                  • Captain Yobbo on 03/07/2025 - 14:36
                    +2

                    @StarGrapper: Sexism, antisemitism & butthurt in a single comment, how impressively degenerate.

                    • StarGrapper on 03/07/2025 - 14:42
                      +6

                      @Captain Yobbo: well trained by 8200, you know how to be super smart in picking excuses. so many cards :D

                      • tonypepperoni on 03/07/2025 - 15:14
                        +1

                        @StarGrapper: Thats antisemitic blood libel ill be contacting your employer for the crime of criticizing israel

                        • StarGrapper on 03/07/2025 - 15:25
                          +1

                          @tonypepperoni: should i give you his contact details?? happy to help you out.

                          • Dreamcast on 03/07/2025 - 15:29

                            @StarGrapper: Please do, I need to tell them they have a gem amongst them

                          • tonypepperoni on 03/07/2025 - 17:12

                            @StarGrapper: No your employment has already been terminated for supporting Palestinians.

                            I also regret to inform you that your US visa has been revoked.

                            • StarGrapper on 03/07/2025 - 17:30
                              -2

                              @tonypepperoni: Firstly, I am Palestinian, secondly, my employer knows I am pro Palestine, thirdly, I don't have US visa and never applied for one, moreover, stop scaring people with your propaganda, you caused enough trouble in here by fake graffiti saying it was anti-Semitic attack, while it was self to self attack… You are EXPOSED, your cards all are BURNT, and you can't get any more cards, your new excuses and threats are pathetic, learn from an ostrich and put your head in dirt is more honourable to you and the likes of you.. the more you talk, the more you humiliating your self!!!

                        • Dreamcast on 03/07/2025 - 15:28

                          @tonypepperoni: Lol.

                      • Captain Yobbo on 03/07/2025 - 15:48
                        +1

                        @StarGrapper: I don't even know what 8200 is but I assume it's a reference to Israeli intelligence services? If that's so, it's hilarious that in lieu of credible rebuttal you've got nothing but ad hominems & accusations of shilling. Talk about bottom of the barrel.

              • Strange1 on 03/07/2025 - 17:31
                +4

                @StarGrapper: Interesting you seem to have an issue with the autonomy of Cyprus…you probably aren't aware that the northern part is occupied by the Turks (a fact agreed upon by nearly every country in the world apart from the Turkey).

                But your disparaging and ignorant comments about the Jewish religion are appreciated. I don't disagree with many of the pro-Palestinian and anti-settler comments in this post, but it's clear that many are against Israel simply because Jews are involved. I wish more were brave like you and are open that your hatred of the country is based on the religion. It makes our jobs easier. Your'e a mensch!

                • StarGrapper on 03/07/2025 - 17:36
                  -1

                  @Strange1: I agree with you that northern part is occupied by Turks, while south part is currently being occupied by Israelis.

                  Stop putting words to my mouth like a chicken, be brave and tell truth for once you Zionist, it is not about religion, it is about land, there are brave honest Jews who already put YOUR ENTIRE PEOPLE AND PROPAGANDA into shame. Such pathetic and all your cards and excuses are old now, use AI to get new cards, there is perplexity offer that might help you.

                  • Strange1 on 08/07/2025 - 12:07
                    -1

                    @StarGrapper: I appreciate you condemning the Turkish invasion of Cyprus.

                    Your second paragraph is somehow blaming me for making you say racist stuff? Your comments are there for everyone to see. Let me guess, my Jew powers did a magic spell on you? Might i kindly suggest you take responsibility for your own life, rather than blame others for your own misgivings. You know you can edit or delete your posts if you wrote something you later regret. Going through your content on here in your response to me and others, I highly recommend it.

            • Dreamcast on 03/07/2025 - 15:26
              +3

              @Strange1: Come on mate, the world is turning against Zionism. You know this, we all know this.

              The difference with Islam, is that it doesn't call fot the ethnic cleansing of anyone or attacks on any innocent. The difference is, when a Muslim commits such atrocities it's not based on Islam. You can't find any evidence to show Islam OK's the killing of innocent, which some ignorant may make you believe.

              Just like any other religion that doesn't condone such actions, but its believers commit such actions.

              The root of Zionism is that they are human and everyone else is sub human.

              Come on mate. The world is turning against it. When the majority are against something, you know it's evil

              Give up.

              • Strange1 on 03/07/2025 - 17:57
                +1

                @Dreamcast: Zionism and Islam are not exactly the same kettle of fish, but there are strong similarities that the actions of a proportion that are extremely racist and ignorant, tarnish the rest. You can quibble about what proportion, but i've got very little time for the type in the documentary (and some in the Israeli government), nor do I have time for the extremist Islamic types who have put some horrible things in this deal.

                Terrorism acts by Islamic extremists are clearly done in the name of Islam, but nor am I going to blame an entire religion (as one of your mates does above for Jews) for the actions of some twisted few who have swallowed. But that's not Islam's fault. I don't pretend to be an expert on the Koran, but I believe there are some troubling bits of text in there that are blatantly bigoted (I also think the same goes for parts of Jewish and Christian religious texts).

                I also have trouble with your notion that "because the majority think it so, then it is so". It's unfortunately that kind of group-think and discouragement of independent thought, which makes mass propaganda so successful.

                • Dreamcast on 03/07/2025 - 18:50
                  +1

                  @Strange1: Completely disagree with anything said. No point discussing further. Other than saying that when Zionism falls, don't be surprised.

                  It's not if but when.

                  • Strange1 on 08/07/2025 - 11:57

                    @Dreamcast: People like you with an agenda, have been saying Israel will be destroyed for decade on decade on decade.

                    And guess what…..it's still here

                    And never in all of history has it been so warmly received by it's neighbours. Even today, i just read that normalization with Syria is a strong possibility soon.

                    And let's be honest, your "no point discussing further" means that you couldn't fault my logic. Appreciate your concession.

                    • Dreamcast on 08/07/2025 - 14:05

                      @Strange1: I'll bookmark this and come back to tell you 'I told you so'.

                      • Strange1 on 08/07/2025 - 14:17

                        @Dreamcast: Haha ok. If it happens, please do get in contact. I'll welcome the discussion.

          • Bugs Bunny on 03/07/2025 - 18:55
            +3

            @Dreamcast: A. It's not a radical movement.
            B. The orthodox Jews as a whole do not hate it.
            C. It's not a genocidal movement.

          • Strange1 on 08/07/2025 - 15:01

            @Dreamcast: Hey @Dreamcast - missed this earlier, but your quote: "it's a radical movement that the Orthodox Jews themselves hate" - has to be addressed.

            Who do you think Netenyahu's biggest supporters are in the government? The Shas and UTJ parties, who happen to be the two biggest political parties representing Orthodox Jews in Israel. Look up their history of propping him and Likud up for many years. They aren't ultra-right wing and racist like Smotrich and Ben-Gvir, but they hold sway over Netenyahu and could have pegged him back, but haven't.

            Outside of Israel, have a look at all the mainstream Jewish community groups in US and here. Almost all are aligned with the Zionist cause. Even the minority and very unusual ultra-religious Adass community (the one who had their synagogue burnt down several months ago) are not anti-zionist. To be fair, they aren't exactly ultra-pro Israel, they don't care much outside of their own religious studies. But the lie was peddled that it was the "Zionists" that did it. Community leaders had to come out (while in mourning of their synagogue) to refute that lie.
            There are several Jewish groups that are Anti-Zionist - in Australia, the Jewish Council of Australia might be the group that is most recongizable there. But they are a minority, and to my knowledge, are certainly not more religious in nature than any other mainstream Jewish group.

            It's worth noting that I've seen several social media clips of religious Jews actively demonstrating against Israel and Zionism in general. This is the Neturei Karta sect, who make up a tiny tiny fraction of religous Jews. There's like 5000 of them out of many million.

            I'm glad I was able to provide this explanation to you and others that often use this misconception as an argument against Zionism. I'll note that the prominent speakers i've seen against Israel/Zionism such as Mehdi Hasan would never make this claim you have. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that this was a misconception (as i've seen others make the same mistake on social media regularly). Otherwise, it's a hurtful comment to make, and should be withdrawn

      • Captain Yobbo on 03/07/2025 - 14:04

        LOL triggered much? Seemed like a fairly benign observation on the focused media coverage on one situation.

        Clearly there are crimes targeting people based on their Israeli or jewish heritage, it's not just the convenient mask of "anti-zionism", many have happened here in Australia. It seems you are trivialising ordinary people on the other side of the planet being victimised simply because of who they are / might be.

        No one said the Gaza situation should be ignored, unsure how you arrived at that conclusion.

        Not sure why it makes a difference if it's bombs (the Myanmar junta is using airstrikes against its own civilians too) or forced sterilisation, organ harvesting & indentured labour like in Xinjiang. It doesn't even seem to matter that it's also muslims who are the victims. There weren't protests or rappers chanting death to the Burmese Military when the ethnic cleansing of the Rohingyas happened, and absolute silence then & now on the fate of the Uighurs. The odd one out is the fact it's Israel who is the bad guy, which seems to incite such a vitriolic response. Just so we're clear, none of these conflicts are worse than each other, it's all absolutely atrocious.

        let me guess

        Seems that's about all you're doing. I've been unequivocal that I think it's terrible and shouldn't be happening. Civilians in every country (and that includes Israel) should not be targeted by terrorists or authoritarian governments.

        • AdamSmash on 05/07/2025 - 14:11

          Your comments on Xinjiang have zero proof. A CIA report is not proof. The Islamic extremists in Xinjiang were CIA trained ISIL returning soldiers from Syria who did multiple terrorist attacks in China at the behest of the CIA. China was forced to crack down on the whole province. The crackdown included re education opposed to extermination in Gaza.

          • Captain Yobbo on 05/07/2025 - 22:04
            +1

            @AdamSmash: That's a really interesting assertion to make…a handful of extremists conduct terrorist attacks and then the entire population is subject to a crack down. Sounds awfully similar to the Gaza situation. The fact you casually downplay "re-education" (what a sinister concept) and try to leverage it to say "hey, it wasn't so bad, at least they didn't bomb them!" provides chilling insight. What else did the crack down include?

            Not sure about the CIA report you're referring to but feel free to peruse the extensive bibliography of the relevant Wiki article for a fairly comprehensive list of sources supporting claims of human rights abuses in Xinjiang. If the PRC have done it to practitioners of Falun Gong they sure as hell have done it to the Uyghurs.

            • AdamSmash on 12/07/2025 - 12:22

              @Captain Yobbo: lol, Wikipedia is a proven Mossad/ CIA partially run website. The Uyghars and Zingjang is the same event. Maybe read some more.
              Falun Gong is CIA run by USAID.
              Reeducation with food, medical & then released in full health. Without torture or killing.

              • Captain Yobbo on 13/07/2025 - 17:16

                @AdamSmash:

                Uyghars
                Zingjang
                maybe read some more

                Peak irony.

                Also, is CIA & Mossad in the room right now? Maybe not them but perhaps your PLA handlers.

  • paracaps on 03/07/2025 - 13:58
    +1

    Antisemitism has persisted throughout history, and its presence remains visible today even on community forums such as OzBargain unfortunately.

    • colblair on 03/07/2025 - 14:07
      +18

      What part of the documentary is antisemitism?

      Or has antisemitism changed to mean any negative thing said about Israel, even if it's true?

      • paracaps on 03/07/2025 - 14:49

        Not referring to the documentry, just comments like throwing all the Jews out of Israel, and dumping them in other countries or most Jews are genocidal as they agree with Israel's stance on self defence

        If I was to say let's dump all the aboriginal people out of Australia I think most people would agree that's discriminating, offensive and racist.

        Instead of users thanking the OP finding this documentry which was difficult prior to ABC airing it, many users are ripping into Jews and Isralies.

        Poor Form as I don't see it happening for other religions or country.

    • Aus Falcon on 03/07/2025 - 14:16
      +6

      please report any actual genuine antisemitism, the moderators will take action accordingly.

      • StarGrapper on 03/07/2025 - 14:25
        +10

        report me, even though i am semite, since i am more semite than the zionists, but whatever, those calling antisemitism are brainless to understand so no point in repeating again and again, FREE PALESTINE

        • Aus Falcon on 03/07/2025 - 14:31
          +4

          Hmmmmm, I couldn't see anything that was actually antisemitic in your comments so no sure what I anyone can report. You do however seem to have a pretty solid perspective on things that have and are happening.

          • StarGrapper on 03/07/2025 - 14:34

            @Aus Falcon: let me help you out, FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA, PALESTINE WILL BE FREE. and ISRAEL are terrorists supported by the United states of ISrael

            • Aus Falcon on 03/07/2025 - 14:56
              +7

              @StarGrapper: Still not seeing an issue here.

              • StarGrapper on 03/07/2025 - 14:58
                +3

                @Aus Falcon: well, if thats the case, then i seriously believe you are very close to understand the meaning of anti-semitic. which i honestly highly appreciate. i hope you understand the situation not from google and skynews, and what 9news australia is saying (since they all are owned by zionists), along with many news agencies, if you dont belive me just google their owners.

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