Suggestions before Relocating to UAE

Hi All,

I’ll soon be relocating to Abu Dhabi for work, and one of the first things I know I’ll miss is our OzBargain community. It’s been a huge help to me over the years. So, I’m back here again to ask for your advice.

  1. Moving to UAE – What are the key things I should know before and right after relocating? Anything that would have helped you (or someone you know) if they had known earlier?
  2. Community & Deals – Are there any UAE-based, OzBargain-style forums or communities where people share deals and tips?
  3. Shipping & Relocation – My employer is only covering flights for my family, so I’ll be paying for shipping myself. Do you have recommendations for cheaper and reliable shipping companies from Australia to UAE? Also, what items are worth shipping (clothes, kitchen appliances, etc.) versus just buying new in Abu Dhabi?
    Edit 2: Employer pays the flights while relocating m, first two weeks accommodation, child education, annual flight costs to Australia. They don’t just pay the freight charges for the household things I ship.

Appreciate any suggestions, and thanks again for all the support this community always provides!

Comments

  • +22

    Quit drinking.

    • +13

      Fortunately I do not have that habit.

      • +2

        they dont wear turbans in emirates. They were the shemag (scarf) and ergal or the ring thing.

    • +1

      except it is the most hedonistic country I have live in. Plenty of bars and wild nightlife. Makes Australia dull by comparison ( if you like to party that is)

      • +1

        You can get great escorts there.

        • Oh man o man so true. My first night out a friend and myself met these two lovely girls. I was totally naïve thinking how cool this place was and obviously how cool I was until my mate told me the cold hard facts!!! After that, whenever some cute girl came up and talked to me I always was suspicious.
          Problem is, there are so many hot girls in Dubai. 8000 cabin crew in emirates alone and the rest. Made it hard to know!! Two years of extreme partying before the shine wore off. Stayed for another 8 years but it destroyed my soul.
          Happy to say I never paid for any.

    • +2

      You're thinking of Saudi Arabia. UAE has plenty of pubs and bottle shops.

  • +7

    How many extra wives are you planning on getting?

    • +1

      How does that work? Does OP get a slave live in housekeeper and then marry her when she gets pregnant or does OP look for an actual second wife?

      • +11

        It’s difficult to manage the one I have now. I donot want anymore 🤣🤣. I hope my wife doesn’t read this thread 😂😂

        • +27

          hi honey

        • +1

          Just get her the burqa without eye slots, problem solved :P

        • Said with the greatest love of course honey

      • There was actually an article in the smh where they said 99% of thai female workers in isreal experienced sexual harassment or abuse

  • +3

    Why did you accept to work in Abu Dhabi? Is it significant higher tax free salary?

    Just genuinely interested to understand the reason for move.

    • +2

      Money is not the deciding factor. I was satisfied with what I earned in my previous role. What matters more to me is that there are not enough opportunities for my profession here

      • +2

        What's your long-term plan? I know a few people who have gone to the UAE, but usually it's for the money or a promotion to continue building their career. If the opportunities have dried up here they'll dry up there eventually too - only reskilling in the UAE will be much harder to do than Australia.

        If long term plan is to live there, it might be worth moving some of your stuff but otherwise I'd just stick most things in storage (or sell anything that will depreciate quickly, like electronics). Don't take anything electric, all the adapters become a pain in the butt after a while.

        I'd just take anything of sentimental value. Last time I moved country I had my clothes, guitars and a laptop plus a few small items. I don't regret it, it was so much easier.

      • +4

        The only people I know moving the Abu Dhabi for work are prostitutes, engineers and lawyers. Which one are you? Advice will depend on that.

        • +7

          The final two have a complete overlap with the first one. We're all selling our bodies to our employers, it's just which bit that's used that differs.

  • +14
    1. Moving back to Australia.
    2. Dubai mall
    3. Put your stuff in storage and find a house/apartment that comes furnished.

    Honestly, I would not do it.
    Expat money is good, but Dubai isn’t the best place to be a expat.

    • +3

      Couldn't agree more, 6 months and I was out. There's this huge difference between holidaying and working in UAE.

      • +1

        I did a secondment there I wanted out after 3 months, but lasted 5 months out of 6.

        • what was so bad about it as far as working?

          • +2

            @Bidet Mate: Just a very fake society where its all about the hussle for quick money
            People stop working in the middle of the day and then come back once it's cooler and bludge,
            It's hot in the day and humid asf at night
            Most bars that sell alcohol are also filled with hookers

            • +5

              @Far Cough: Now you've finished the sales pitch, tell us the down sides.

              • @drfuzzy: I got made redundant after the secondment so I kinda doubled my income for that year.

  • +9

    Get VPN so that you can talk to the rest of the world.

    • +48

      He said UAE not UK

      • +1

        That joke made me feel unsafe. Please report to prison to join the other 12,000 online comment criminals in the last 12 months.

  • +15

    so I’ll be paying for shipping myself

    Sounds like a shit deal. Employer should cover flights, freight, accommodation, school fees and annual return flight to Australia at a minimum.

    • +1

      They are providing all other benifits except freight.

      • +2

        Still not a good deal given the move, unless you're requesting the move and they didn't come to you with the option or offer.
        Its a very basic and not huge cost overall for them, if they're a decent sized business.

  • +14

    What's the job? Just curious.

  • +7

    Presumably you’ve been there previously and like (or tolerate) the place?

    • No, just had a transit stop over once.

      • +32

        I hope you enjoyed it? I’ve been to the UAE once (Dubai and Abu Dhabi) for a few days and I’d need a zero to my pay to make me want to move there. It’s a place that’s all glamour and zero soul.

        • +9

          Agreed, did a 2 day stopover there and geezus it reeks of new money.

          There's zero natural elements to it. Sure you can do your time and earn say 2 years wages in the space of 1 (given there's zero tax) but i'd get out asap.

          It's unliveably hot outside - at least singapore you can still walk around.

        • +1

          Yep. It's a shithole basically. I flew via there to Manchester a few weeks ago. Speaking to a few Brits on the Manchester flight who had been there on holiday (plane was full of them) and they love the place.

          Bizarre.

      • +41

        It's worrying you have not spent sufficient time in the country to understand the lifestyle, the limitations, and the customs of the place. There's a lot of 'don'ts' you need to be wary of. At first Abu Dhabi will feel like an extended holiday but it'll very very quickly get boring and you'll gravitate towards constantly visiting Dubai instead.

        While it's 'tax-fee', there are so many charges and fees for everything that it erodes that feeling. Every bill or application or car renewals has so many add-on fees you have no choice to pay. Accommodation is relatively quite expensive, so hopefully you've got an idea of what's available and how much it'll cost you.

        I would NOT ship your stuff over yet. Take a couple of clothing suitcases and give it a few months at least to see if you will settle in or not. You absolutely 100% need an exit plan. Read the conditions of your work visa. If for any reason, you leave/they fire you, you usually have 30 days to leave the country. You're not a permanent resident there, and will never naturalise there. You're a temporary worker and always will be till they decide they don't need you anymore. Keep that in mind. Plan a backup route back (or to somewhere else) which could happen at anytime.

        • Thanks Mate.

          • +2

            @PChinna: i would be wary of depression or loneliness, usually kicking in about 6 months then it becomes sort of cyclic depending on how well you integrate (and just to be aware of that depression risk for that wife you previously mentioned - the first one ^^).

            I agree with the guy above saying not to ship all your stuff over. Do you happen to speak the language?

            If you are in healthcare, i have been told it is not worth the effort because of cultural aspects and expectations, and generally its quite a "closed door" society so hard to mix with locals. If you have an interest and are just curious, yeah why not go :)

  • +5

    Take a hat

  • +3

    Hope you’re not homosexual, drink alcohol, fair skinned…

    • -2

      😂😂 No….. fortunately.

    • +1

      fair skinned

      Easy fix

      • +8

        Try going there and telling someone god isn't real

        • -6

          tell me younger never been to attend gulf without telling me younger never been to the Arab gulf, it makes Australia seem like a third world country in terms of advancememt and equality unlike here in Australia where multiculturalism is a controvecy

          • +3

            @subwoofer: The idea of a sex segregated culture valuing equality is oxymoronic.

            Multiculturism is predicated on the idea that all cultures are interchangeable and equal. As that isn't true, and cannot be, failure is certain given time. All that is required is a critical mass of irreconcilable difference in the population. That effect scales right down to the street level. You can trivially name cultures and match them up with suburbs. You already can name where you don't want to live.

            It is also important to understand that within the context of the Gulf there is no Western conceit of multiculturalism. You are either a Muslim or you are not. There's no claim to equality in that.

            As for controversy, I'd rather be able to have a heated conversation about things than see individuals murdered for dissent by the state.

            • -3

              @cfuse:

              Multiculturism is predicated on the idea that all cultures are interchangeable and equal. As that isn't true

              That is the definition of white supremacy, I'm not a Muslim but I originate from the Arab world, I would say the white man should stop shoving 'western values' down our throats, people are happy with their traditions and culture. In Qatar and UAE the Qataris and Emiratis make up less than 10% of the population, I'd say the major religion there has become Hinduism since Indians make up a large segment of the population. Live and let live.

              • @subwoofer: No, racial supremacy (regardless of which) is the idea that collective biological class is the root of worth. Multiculturalism is the idea that a woman in a burka trailing her chaperone or husband is 100% as moral as Bonnie Blue getting railed by a 1000 guys in one day. Both are baloney. Neither is a part of the Western worldview (albeit both are possible under the aegis thereof on the grounds of freedom of expression and association).

                The West got very far off the back of colonialism, so perhaps it boils down to how you impress your culture on others that matters more than whether you do or not. That being said, I'm more than happy to adopt a mind your own business approach as long as that doesn't harm us.

                As for the Gulf's demography, you tell me who sets the rules and wields the rod. It isn't a bunch of Hindus, is it? Australia isn't run by atheists or agnostics either. Culture comes from the bottom up, but rulership comes from the top down.

                Live and let live is predicated on sufficient space to avoid conflict. One cannot appeal to harmony in one breath and freak out over Western whitey stepping into one's domain uninvited in the next. Either we have demarcations between us or we are stuck staring down each other over matters on which we will not compromise.

                I do not care what the Gulf states do on their own soil, I just care that it stays confined to their own soil. I hold that principle to apply to us as well. The logical space to police to avoid conflict is the national border. Nobody that isn't serving our interests should be allowed to so much as put a toe over that border.

      • +2

        So racism isn't an issue that at all? Perhaps not if you're a westerner. Pretty sure there are plenty foreign workers there whose experience is different.

          • +5

            @subwoofer: Racism is a white man invention? Are you for real?

          • +1

            @subwoofer:

            racism is the only invention the white man won't take credit for.

            Ignoring that the British terminated the Atlantic slave trade is a hobby for some people.

        • -5

          especially if you're a westerner, for goodness sake learn the language when you work abroad, we are expected to be fluent in English.

      • Multiculturalism doesn't exist - it's a socialist construct.

        • -2

          well it does and I'm not in search of a new culture or identity

          • -1

            @subwoofer: It doesn't exist in the West

      • +2

        Have you been out of the capital cities of Australia? Ive lived in a small town rural Victoria for 50 years yes there was rasicm growing up as a kid but for the last 20 plus years its been pretty rare. My kids have heaps of friends at school and its been pretty rare for them too and schools are usually one of the worst places.

      • Yeah, they'll publicly execute any race by hanging them from a crane. It's so progressive.

        • -2

          Yes 'western values' are far too superior, we've seen them in action in Gaza

          • +5

            @subwoofer: Just ignore the massacre and hostages, right? Pretend that it's all just plucky little Gaza magically finding all that ordinance and military support by themselves, paid for by zero export revenue.

            Buddy, everyone knows who's bankrolling the Jihad and why. It's the same guys that won't accept a single Palestinian refugee. We get it, they hate the Jews in the same way Europe hates Russia and is willing to bankroll Ukraine for a proxy war. Some dumb uni student might be into the brain damaged slogans but the rest of us aren't buying it.

            I'll make it really easy for you: I don't care about Gaza and I don't care about Israel. I think the idea that thousands of years of tribal hatreds could ever be quelled by outside forces is idiocy. The only aspect I do care about is domestic traitors putting their tribal violence ahead of our interests. If I am forced to pick between savages that openly advocate for my murder, or an ethnostate that covertly undermines my interests, then I'll grudgingly pick the latter. Both of them suck.

            As for Western values, suffice it to say I believe that people have become divorced from the cost of their freedoms and that is an existential risk. The reason we are attacked is because those who attack us aren't afraid. That is a situation that can be remedied.

            • @cfuse:

              It's the same guys that won't accept a single Palestinian refugee

              Seriously? 60% of the Jordanian population are Palestinians, there are over one million in Saudi Arabia, another 500 thousand in Egypt and hundreds of thousands in Syria. Lebanon has a half a million. However demanding that Arabs take the people that were ethnically cleansed from their homes is the equivalent of stabbing someone in the middle of the street then demanding why anybody isn't picking up the injured person?

              Buddy, everyone knows who's bankrolling the Jihad and why

              of course we know it's the same country they established, financed and trained hamas which is isreal. Benjamin Milekowski aka Netanyahu is on record saying hamas was an asset, after all they will have pretext to carry out the genocide if there is no hamas. He allowed Qatar to finance them for years.

              • @subwoofer: I see you left out the part when the Palestinian refugees arrived in the places they did. And the actual quantified numbers, being much lower than cited (not that that really matters). And the fact they weren't from Gaza. We could go on with that, but what's the point?

                I could certainly see why you might be confused as to my expectations in regards to Gaza but that is easily corrected. I don't expect a single Gazan to be helped by other Muslims because that would imply that to die in Jihad is not a virtuous act. What I think of the situation as a Westerner couldn't be further from what Muslims and Jews of the region think. A Western worldview sees a peaceful resolution as the end goal. Both the Islamic and Jewish hard-line worldviews see the extermination of the other as the end goal. Perhaps a pyrrhic one given how difficult an actual genocide is, but that's what they both want. They've wanted that for thousands of years, and they'll want it for thousands more.

                To look at this from a Western worldview is pointless, it presupposes predicates that don't apply and ignores ones that do. A fallacious mental model will always result in failed conclusions. Islamic and Jewish interests routinely exploit false conflation in the Western worldview for their own ends (eg. Israel is at fault whether or not they attack Qatar in your scenario, as you well know). And that's before we get to those within our own ranks doing exactly the same for their own reasons (turns out, war is very profitable).

                The simple test here is to ask you what you believe Israel has the right to do in its own defence, and ask what actions it has taken up to this point that you believe sound (whether or not you concur with them). If the answer is that nothing is ever acceptable to you then there is no discourse to be had, merely a final admission of your own tribalism. For my part, I can see the pragmatic logic in the actions of both sides, if not the ideological soundness underpinning the entire conflict in the first instance (the West got out of the Crusades, we used to be every bit as stupid and violent as the Muslims and Jews here). If you are stuck in a tit-for-tat game of endless violence with a foe that will never yield then what's left but to fight back?

                As I stated, I care nothing for either side here, nor their pointless and irreconcilable conflict. I want us to stay out of it completely (not going to happen, but neither is peace in the Middle East). I'm not here to pretend that any side is righteous, nor listen to specious claims in that direction. The both suck, there's nobody to cheer for, end of story.

    • +1

      when I lived there plenty of homosexuals, plenty of bars and being fair skinned was an advantage…..educate yourself a bit

  • +14

    “My employer is only covering flights for my family, so I’ll be paying for shipping myself”

    This is a massive red flag.

    If your employer truly valued your skill set and/or needed you more than you need them, then the package should include a full removal, relocation payments, an agreed number of return trips to Australia for entire family.

    How long is your contract for? Also understand as a foreigner your contract means squat if they want to get rid of you. It would suck to be there for six months, employer discards you, then you’re on the hook to pay for a removal back home.

    Also don’t discount the lifestyle/leisure changes. I spent time in Kuwait. There’s only so many times you can go to Avenues Mall, Marina Mall, or a beach club before you start getting really bored.

  • +4

    I'd suggest you go watch Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol (2011) Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning (2023) or Syriana (2005) all set in UAE.

    • +3

      Or play Spec Ops…

  • -8

    Good on you! the exodous of skilled healthy workers from NZ and UK has been happening for a decade now. I feel like Australians are starting to realise the system is geared against workers and it is happening here.

    • +3

      I wish the OP well, but the grass isn't always greener on the other side. Many workers in the UAE have an infamously hard life.

        • +3

          I'd rather take a less than wonderful society (though that opinion of Australia is not one I share with you) than go and be part of a massively unequal society that makes me feel great, but at the expense of many, many less fortunate people.

          • -2

            @banana365:

            I'd rather take a less than wonderful society (though that opinion of Australia is not one I share with you) than go and be part of a massively unequal society that makes me feel great, but at the expense of many, many less fortunate people.

            Australias entire history is built on murdering and enslaving the natives im not sure what kind of 'moral high ground' you think you are on but…..sure

            for the record i dont think life in Australia is bad but it has become a place for the bottom 2-3% and top 1% everyone else is getting shafted - it is the greatest nation on the planet for many reasons…. if you're ultra wealthy or if you dont have a dollar to your name

            if you are working class and otherwise fit and healthy there is no doubt other nations give skilled/educated workers a better deal

            • +6

              @Checkmate3023: really? you are talking about inequality in Australia but talking up Dubai? A city literally built by effectively an underclass of slave labour with one of the highest concentration of billionaires?

              • -7

                @V2L:

                really? you are talking about inequality in Australia but talking up Dubai? A city literally built by effectively an underclass of slave labour with one of the highest concentration of billionaires?

                i honestly dont care about inequity, i care about opporunity….

                UAE and nations with a similar mentality give people the opportunity to do better then where they are from even all the 'low paid workers' from the Phillipines are making 5x times more then they would in their home nations - why do you think they come and work there?

                This idea that everyone needs to have 'equal' wealth is hald the reason we are going down the toilet - we bring people this country give them the same if not better rights then the locals and allow them to vote in parliment and wonder why people we have MPs more interested in overseas issues and dont give a f—k about cost of living here and housing.

                The UAE will be rich tomorrow they will be rich 20 years from now because they protect their care values and high standard of living but understand you need to get benefits from a foreign workforce with out all the problems of importing and econmey - Monaco is similar

                • +1

                  @Checkmate3023: so which is it, do you care about it or not?

                  for the record i dont think life in Australia is bad but it has become a place for the bottom 2-3% and top 1% everyone else is getting shafted - it is the greatest nation on the planet for many reasons…. if you're ultra wealthy or if you dont have a dollar to your name

                  • -3

                    @V2L: The system here screws workers you are either a total useless member of society in which you get access to a safety net like no where in the world

                    Or you are ultra wealthy and get all the benefits from a tax system geared against workers - there was a study that said the top bracket if indexed to inflation properly would be over 280k! Pa

                    The opportunity to go from lower-middle-class to rich is only via stacking property investments and hoping for crazy capital growth if you can get in.

                    There is no opportunity to get rich via work wages are too low and taxes are too high

                    People go to place lile Dubai to work for 10-15 years build enough wealth to hit fire head back home it isnt stupid

                    It is bad for nations like UK Aus NZ etc because your prime working years of populace is being drained but ppl are going to where the money is

                    We all want beach side mansions and to have an easy lifestyle - it is way easier to do this when the system encourages wealth growth and hard work opposed to punishes it

  • +3

    What field do you work in ? that have no opportunities here. Everything is same here and there in terms of jobs, except social housing, welfare etc

  • +1

    Community & Deals – Are there any UAE-based, OzBargain-style forums or communities where people share deals and tips?

    Doesn't look like it

    • +5

      OP, you could start one? If there's not much to do outside, this could be a fun indoor hobby?

      • +3

        '50% off human trafficekd slaves this month at JB Slave-Fi!'
        '100% off human rights for women!'

  • +3

    Lots of people like myself have visited Abu Dhabi or Dubai (an hour away by bus). I hope you like oppressive, relentless heat. Almost every day. There's a reason why you won't see Emiratis outside and only foreigners are working outdoors.

    Since you don't drink alcohol that's a key problem already solved.

  • +12

    It's common for employers in the gulf area to hold the passports of labourers. Looks like you're white collar, but still, be wary. Also if you're an important person to the company (e.g. sign off documents like a Chartered Accountant), then be prepared to be at the mercy of the employer on leaving/exiting the country. Employers there act friendly as long as situation is in their favour but it can turn bad very quickly. This is not a joke at all.

  • Helpful website to give you an indication of cost of living in Abu Dhabi. You can toggle to currency back to AUD

    • I tattoo the rates on my arm for quick reference.

  • +10

    Get tax advice.

    Get this advice for BOTH moving to UAE and back to Australia.

    I've been told someone who specialises in this that moving from a tax-free jurisdiction back to Australia can present significant taxation events. These can be minimised and streamlined if the right exit plan is developed up front.

    This could save you more money than a bargin site ever could.

    • +1

      Looks like being on a bargain site is saving OP more money. Good advice.

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