Kit includes: 1 x Impact Driver, 1 x Drill Driver, 2 x 1.3Ah batteries, 1 x Battery charger and 1 x Carry case
I found this offer in a Brisbane catalogue delivered on 17th of April.
A copy of the catalogue can now be found on Lasoo - http://www.lasoo.com.au/catalogue/masters-home-improvement/5…
Funny my first drill was a 9.6 volt ryobi and I used that for everything and had it for years till the battery died, but I love the power of 18 volts….
You want to know why Bunnings DeWalt power tools are cheaper than say, sydney tools or other tool shops? Because they are not the same. The exterior is the same though the internals are different.
Any proof? Are you talking about same models or different models?
I was curious about this too, not saying he's wrong but seems odd that the same model at Bunnings V Sydney tools has different internals
Same brand different models.
I also don't want to immediately call BS on this story, but let's think about this logically for a moment.
If a large tool corp. wanted to differentiate their tools between smaller 'pro' tool stores (and I use that term loosely) and larger chains like Bunnings, they'd simply change the part number.
The cost of re-tooling a factory, just to make particular tools for one chain, versus keeping all of the internals the same and changing a few part/model numbers would be a no-brainer. The tool corp. still gets their chunk from Bunnings, people can't match between stores, and the 'pro' stores can say that they're selling a premium product, evidenced by different part numbers.
IMO, it's an old wives tale used by 'pro' shops to try and dissuade buyers from going to Bunnings.
Seriously, don't get me wrong, I love a good conspiracy as much as the next OZbargainer, but I think you'll find that this one stops with the lowest dime.
Case in point, look at PorterCable and Stanley FatMax tools, they're virtually identical, all that Stanley does is swap over the casing and voila you've got FatMax in AUS and PorterCable in the US.
Completely agree with you not to mention the legalities.
I know that in Australia if the product was not the same (at most variance between different batch numbers within certain tolerance) it would not legally be allowed to be sold under the same name and model
As someone who used to work in an industry whereby this practice was normal, I can confirm it. We would make literally the same product (very occasionally with a different minor style) and depending on who it was being delivered to would depend on the model it was called. Exactly the same product, different model name, can't price match or compare in store.
Big difference if you want the top shelf gear.
I have the dcd985 and yeh a lot more in every part of it. My boss has this one and its not bad but yeh good for home diy.
Has a metal chuck and gearbox also larger motor for more torque and more torque settings.
I know that in Australia if the product was not the same (at most variance between different batch numbers within certain tolerance) it would not legally be allowed to be sold under the same name and model
And what law would prevent it from being sold?
This is a low end dewalt drill ill show you the difference between pro model and bottom end range.
And what is the difference? You haven't shown anything to indicate this is a bottom end range tool.
Just for comparison this dewalt has a smaller motor, less toque settings, not sure if this has hammer action and lastly gear box has plastic parts also the chuck has plastic parts.
The gearbox is all metal so your whole argument is flawed and as for the chuck who cares if it has plastic for the grip when the rest of it is metal.
"All metal gearboxes increase efficiency and durability"
Couldn't be much clearer could it and the the drill doesn't have a hammer function but given you missed the above I'm not surprised that you missed that as well.
My drill has more torque settings, hammer action as well as screw and drill actions, all metal chuck and gearbox.
Clap, Clap, Clap….. A professional generally wouldn't use the hammer action on the drill but would use a rotary hammer and they wouldn't use a drill to screw either but would use an impact driver, electric driver or other appropriate method.
Alliances are made, contracts are agreed and minute difference may come about, be it from where it's built or something else.
Not the same situation here but:
When I bought a 18V makita hammer drill eons ago I was told make sure it's made in England, as they had steel planetary gearboxes, others made elsewhere under the same model had plastic gear set.
I'd like to go this deal for the impact driver alone but being 14V it's only good for 100Nm and I'd want 140Nm to at least be able to do wheel nuts on me car…
Sorry wouldn't be able to quote which act or legislation it was (studied BEng not Law) but I'll have a browse through the consumer watchdog page later today when I have time.
In the meantime a good example my lecturer gave me in materials and manufacturing was those "value psck" shampoo bottles the ones which are basically a bottle with extra content. They came about mainly due to failed batch products that are still within legal requirements but fall out of batch requirements to be sold as the same product.
@Keghiad:
What you are saying - Same product, different model number.
What @Ufsta is saying - different product, same model number.
I believe you, it's easy to create two different models numbers using the same physical product and it helps the sellers avoid price matching. I think Ufsta is retelling a story he was told and got the details mixed up.
In store only?
No mention of instore only, I would have thought it to be online as well.
14v :/ I kinda feel like I want to go to 18 next. I always wonder if the cheaper stuff lasts as long, even DeWalt…
do the maths on battery wattage ….. 14v 2 amps vs 18v 2 amps …… and 18 v batteries and chargers are easier to get……
but then I sold all my brush tools and everything is now brushless.
14v - good for slapping ikea flat pack together
Rubbish
We've just converted to 12V Milwaukee and it does everything the 18V stuff did.
The only time we pull out the higher powered stuff is to drill large holes into concrete or thick stainless steel.
Milwaukee is made by Atlas Copco otherwise known as AEG, their known for quality.
I had a AEG grinder that was handed down to me,must have been 30 years old when I killed it.
I've had matarbo that didn't last through one day of hard work
German engineered but the steel is still made in China
They still cut corners to save money, it's why no one will certify a Chinese jet to take passengers
Correct me if I'm wrong, I could well be, but I was under the impression that Milwaulkee, AEG, Ryobi and a few others are all owned by TTi? Milwaulkee used to be made in the states, but production moved to China, where I'd have thought that Ryobi and AEG are probably also made in a similar factory.
@Jawanzar: from what I was told when the Milwaukee brand first appeared at glenfords over 15 years ago and I bought my 14.4 they were AEG marketed to the USA as Milwaukee
My drill driver is still good except 1 battery is weak, but I put that down to lack of use and heat when I changed fields
But while working in the electrical field these De walts were considered top class by some, then the Panasonic's showed up, but these look like good allrounders
Can't really go wrong at that price
from what I was told when the Milwaukee brand first appeared at glenfords over 15 years ago and I bought my 14.4 they were AEG marketed to the USA as Milwaukee
So you're spreading BS based on what you were told by a tool guy selling you tools over 15 years ago!
Did it never occur to you that companies get sold all the time and that manufacturing moves to China to cut costs?
@Maverick-au: yes did occur to me that's why I said it was a long time ago that I bought mine
Hey go ahead buy the drill looks good ok
or do them quicker lol, each to their own they all have their designed purpose. I like 18V gear btw no harm no foul.
I was reading a review of the 14.4v and the torque output is only marginally below the 18v. For the price I think it's great.
My only concern is that when masters shuts theirs doors no one else I found sells the 14.4v tools or batteries
Pardon my rookie question but between different brand but same voltage, are the battery and charger gonna be compatible or not (normally)?
I can't say with 100% positivity but no. Each brand will make the connections different otherwise you wouldn't buy theirs.
Be quick
That's a genuine ozbargain!
Sure it's probably made in China now, just condition the battery's when you get it and don't store them in hot boxes and expect them to last forever
I read a few posts while hunting lately which indicated even DeWalt is Chinese made now and presumably cheaper - this is an incredibly cheap price for that brand and despite OzBargain, you get what you pay for, within reason.
I only need to do mostly Ikea Flat Pack stuff, but every now and then I like to do some half decent drilling. Considering my Ryobi 14v green died on me a while back (gear block ceased, really not used that much) and second battery died in year #2? I dunno, I wanna get something beefier.
Brushless, 18v, 2 batteries and I guess I need to set a calendar alarm every 3 months to rotate batteries in the charger or something
I read a few posts while hunting lately which indicated even DeWalt is Chinese made now and presumably cheaper - this is an incredibly cheap price for that brand and despite OzBargain, you get what you pay for, within reason.
This deal is full of BS and old wives tales.
DeWalt has moved much of its production back to the USA, the batteries (18v at least) are made in Japan and many other tools are made in Europe like the 18v rotary hammers are made in the Czech Republic. Yes some of the tools are made in China but they are in DeWalt owned facilities and much of the production is in the USA and Europe.
http://americanpride.dewalt.com/
List of what is made in the USA - http://americanpride.dewalt.com/tools
http://toolguyd.com/dewalt-cordless-tools-built-in-the-usa/
Can anyone else confirm the in-store price? It's showing normal price on the website.
Showing normal price right now just as it doesnt start till Thursday.
I may have been dropped the catalogue earlier than I should
And you all want Masters to close down? Think of the competition that has been bought about since Masters opened up shop in Australia.
Absolutely wanted for Masters to remain. However Masters have proven themselves as a less competitive entity… business wise and trading wise. Just because they are having 1 or 2 unbelievable deals here and there nowadays doesn't justify a case to remain. Fact is they are continuing to lose millions of $. Staffing along has remained disproportionate to the number of people entering and buying things there..
It would've been better if Masters do a "bait sale" such as this dewalt.. then back things up with say… 5-10% off on all other store stocks so people have other reasons to be there and to keep coming back. It totally sucks when u go there to find that only sale item is out of stock, and u have no other reason to be there cos 95% of their other stock are still full RRP.
showing full price on website for me too, and i have tried the sydney stores as my local store
Which store? Two nearby have no knowledge of the offer
I got the this catalogue this morning and my closest store is Everton Park. I went in not reading that it didn't start till Thursday and he didnt know either. He told me I was probably looking at Bunnings or some other deal.
Starts on the 21st
You'd think right? I went in there this morning (northmead store) and they are SOLD OUT - went on sale yesterday NOT today.
3 of them, standing there having a chat, store completely empty.
Shrugged their shoulders about the 21st, 'once the price changes, we sell' was all they had to say.
I will NEVER go to Masters again. What a waste of friggin time.
dewalt tools are great!
i have this kit, paid a little more for it… its the shiz - get one.
If I didn't already have one, I'd be all over this. Great drill, great deal.
Don't believe the numpties who say it isn't enough. Mine has done everything asked of it. Best drill I've ever owned, hands down.
Hey just wanting to know if theres a difference….
Is yours made in China or somewhere else?
I don't know, I don't have it with me at the moment. I got it at Bunnings.
still shows full price on their website.
STARTS 21st April - lets get this into the title
Hey OP, Awesome deal. Could we get a photo of the catalogue page? Thanks
How would this compare to the 18V triton kit deal from a few weeks ago? Still haven't opened it, thinking maybe worth returning and getting this instead. Also, saw a Hitachi 18V Drill driver and angle grinder combo for around $130 which looked good value, but cant find in online catalogue. What to do?
the triton chargers are super slow, and the multi-tool is rubbish. the drill and impact are good enough, and the circ saw is quite good. i would take this Dewalt deal over the Triton.
Are these brushless?
Are these brushless?
No.
rookies are making too many comments about stuff they don't know.
DeWalt (like most GOOD tool brands) have mutliple levels of tools. Lithium Ion batteries & Brushless motors are the best. The non-brushelss are still good and perfectly fine for the home handyman and should ALWAYS be bought over Ozito etc..
But just becuase DeWalt might use the same plastic housing molding for the BL as well as the Non-BL, it doesn't mean they are the same tool or trying to be a dodgy brand.
If you are a power user, by BL motors. If you are a general handyman, non-BL are perfectly fine
Agreed. If I didn't import the Makita 18V anniversary kit back when the dollar was amazing I'd be all over this for home use.
Back beforw brushless came out all trades used the bush type.
I have a full set of bush type dewalt 18v tools and am a tradie.
They are tough, you just have to look out for warn bushes and change them as they go. I change mine once a year.
I enquired about brushless type and was blown away by the price.
so what do you guys reckin is it a good buy or not ? I am considering something temp but also for long run just normal furniture screwing and unscrewing and general small jobs or should I buy 1500$ worth of kit from Just tools.. Milwaukee tools
I am considering something temp but also for long run
Consider that an oxymoron
Normal furnature doesnt come in a flat pack
Buy the $1500 kit
Shows up as $289, deal closed?
although not apparent in the title, it does indicate on the calendar - 21 Apr–4 May In 3 days. Your case closed?
I think it depends where you live.
I think this is a very good deal for someone who just wants a drill & impact. But the batteries are really only enough for DIY, not trade use.
Also, if you want to buy angle grinder, circ, etc, later, I wouldn't buy into 14.4V.
Sell this to me like I'm 5 (with a license to use power tools).
What can I do with this that the wife would approve of? It looks like I'd still need to get drill bits etc? How much extra are they?
Good value for a brand-name combo but 14.4v means this is still a pretty weak drill with 38nm of torque. For instance the Ozito 18V 'Power X Change' and Ryobi One+ drills will happily out-gun this.
in the same way that a 1200W Ozito circular saw 'outguns' a 1050W Makita saw. But which would you rather own? I'd bet that the Makita has more real-world power everyday of the week. Specs can be misleading…
Cause you're looking at the wrong specs. 1050w is a measure of power input & consumption, not performance.
Drills don't need huge amounts of torque - that's what the impact driver is for.
Disagree, my $89 ryobi one skin refuses to screw in to wood a large 60mm long coach screw,
My dewalt 18v (bought with two 4ah batteries a year ago for $180 on a price error) does no problem.
My mates 10 yr old nicad 14.4v dewalt Impact drill with a drill chuck attachment also has no issues
Ignore data sheets, often the safeties will cut out the device before the torque gets anywhere near stated numbers
Is the drill power enough to drive through a masonry wall?
I don't think it is a hammer drill, so not the best suited for drilling into masonry.
My mates nicad 14.4v one does(just)
Appears to be available early online now. Not Thursday as stated above.
This deal is live right now.
Not a whole lot of skins available for the 14.4V from what I can tell on the dewalt site.
The online price is now showing $149, and I was chatting to Masters online and the guy said I could pickup at the sale price today. He also offered me "If you like, I am happy to process the order for you and give you 5% off as well?" as its my first online order. SOLD!
Just picked one up from Oakleigh (Melbourne). They had about 20 in the pile.
Oh centre road, how i miss thee!
I just ordered one online for pickup. Signed up for a new account to get the 5% code!
Can anyone recommend some decent value drill bits to go with it?
I've been using these the last week to drill into steel purlins. Reasonably happy. They are made by Sutton. I have snapped a few of the smaller ones!
https://www.masters.com.au/product/900053919/sutton-high-spe…
I know this might be a half decent deal but I'm just gonna sit and wait for the best of all worlds, since I don't need a drill urgently.
I want 18v, brushless, 2 batteries, remotely ok brand (or bloody long warranty) for under $160 AUD
Bonus if it's bunnings, I've got enough AMEX velocity points to score a $50 gift card.
I… er… wouldn't hold my breath there…
Well I might be willing to go a bit higher, but drills continue to come down in price. I don't need one of those combo packs with impact driver and drill, just a drill is fine. We'll see, I'm patient.
A lot of people said SCREW OZITO, others said "nah it's not bad" but ultimately, it comes with a 5 year warranty. If I have to, I'll go with them if I'm desperate
Buy a triton one from masters, drill, multi tool for $99.
Buy two to get two batteries, two drills and two multi tools for $198
Not brushless but who gives a stuff, when one blows up, use the other one!
Picked it up today, thanks OP. Drill made in China, battery in Malaysia. $141.55
Have you tried screwing some wood together?
No, however I'm sure it will be fine as others who bought it last time have said.
I can screw wood together with my 10.8V Bosch, so I'm sure this will cope just fine.
Anyone one in Melbourne looking for the Impact Driver with Battery, charger and bag only. I would like to have the drill and one battery only, if anyone is thinking the same. We could work out a price for each of us and buy the combo.
how are you going to charge it then?
I have a compatible charger from a previous drill set.
Pardon my rookie question but between different brand but same voltage, are the battery and charger gonna be compatible or not (normally)?
Not going fit physically between brands.
Not unless you fit it with a left handed screwdriver
Just be aware that at that $300 mark should be trade quality
At $150 you are getting exactly what you pay for
Maybe a bit overpriced, but it looks like the real thing
Bought this last time it appeared here. LOVE it. If you've only ever used GMC / Ozito etc., then you're about to be amazed by the difference between cheap and quality tools.
People will say that you shouldn't buy anything less than 18V to get the maximum power. But the impact driver here easily screws a 100mm screw into a 2x4 without a pilot hole. And I'd never be doing that in the real world anyway.