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Lenovo IdeaPad Miix 700 (12" 1440p, m3-6Y30, 4GB RAM, 128GB SSD) $600 Delivered @ Futu Online eBay

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Cheapest deal I've seen for this 2-in-1 tablet with Australian warranty.

Intel® Core™ m3-6Y30 Processor (4M Cache, 900 MHz), Turbo Boost 2.0 (2.2 GHz)
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
12.0" FHD+ (2160x1440), glare, 400 nits, 3:2 aspect ratio, IPS display, multi-touch, support 10-point
Wacom® Active pen
4GB 1600MHz LPDDR3, soldered to systemboard
Solid State Drive (SSD), M.2: 128GB
Ports: USB 3.0, USB 2.0, Micro HDMI

Comes with keyboard and stylus

I saw it for $750 pre-sale and thought they might jack up the price, considering they are already cheaper than other places ($850+). But to their credit, it didn't go up, so comes to $600 after the 20%!

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  • +1

    The 12" FHD+ (2160 x 1440) display delivers bright, crisp visuals in 16:9 widescreen.

    Are there two versions?

    • +3

      There are several versions. The display is the same on them all, RAM is either 4GB or 8GB, SSD 128GB or 265GB. And, my one has LTE:) As I warn on all these posts, great unit, but the pen is very average.

      • Just checking mine, CPU must vary too, mine has a M5.

      • +1

        So the 16:9 widescreen is a mistake then?

      • How much with lte? Which post on ozb was it?

        • Probably should have posted it. Got it for $1349 at a previous 20% off ebay sale. The LTE is great as it is always on like a phone, no app to run before connecting.

        • I see a better price below, mine is 8GB RAM / 256GB SSD though.

  • +3

    Good price, but I just dont have the money

  • +1

    Specwise, roughly on the level of the cheapest surface 4 model. Good alternative, considering the price difference.

  • this is a great price , lol I have the same model as the guys above m5 with lte
    great alternative to the surface pro.
    works well with and without the keyboard

  • -1

    Makes me sad how there is no ability to charge the laptop from a usb adapter/battery =(

    • There is, but it will cost you 50% the price of this post. I got a spare charger cheap and leave one at work so I don't have to carry one.

      • where did you buy the spare charger from? i also need one to leave at work

        • Lenovo had a 50% off accessories sale a while back, and I picked it up for $50. Not sure how often they run these, so just keep an eye out.

        • @mostlygordon:

          Ok thanks!

    • You cannot charge a laptop from USB because laptops almost exclusively don't use 5 Volts.

      This uses a 4 cell Li-Polymer (40Wh) battery. Let's call it 14.8 Volts - that requires a minimum 17.2 Volt input voltage to get full charge. Let's round it to 18V.

      USB 5V 2.0 Amps is 10 Watts max. You could get a 18V stepup converter however you would end up with perhaps 8W output. So it'd take more than 5 hours to charge that way.

      If you want to charge it from batteries, then buy a suitable 4-cell powerbank. That means you simply purchase a power bank that is designed for laptops, not for 5V mobile phones.

      • you can charge an ASUS T100 from a USB - that is about as close to a "laptop" as you can get that will charge in that way… otherwise as what llama says

        • And it's a lifesaver for me when plugging in to factory power makes my data loggers go nuts at times.

          I'm hoping the upcoming Lenovo Yoga Book can be charged off a power bank too

      • -1

        It's more tablet than laptop.

        The Samsung Tabpro S is basically identical to this, and charges via USB.

        • And a Samsung Tabpro S is more than DOUBLE THE PRICE of this Lenovo.

          The Samsung uses USB-C and a special charger. To charge it quickly you would need a suitable USB-C charger or battery pack that supports the respective USB Charging protocol that the device uses (these are elevated voltages to get more grunt through the tiny connections).

          So,charging protocls like USB QC and USB-C are solutions that have been developed to get aroundx the limitations of standard 5V USB's 10W power limit. If you want to use "USB" then purchase a laptop that suits a better method of charging…. Like not this Lenovo.

        • @llama: It was about $848 on Amazon a month ago. $250 more than this. But it's not got anything to do with price. You said products like this can't be charged via USB. They can. I've no idea how quick, but it uses the one and only USB port which happens to be Type C.

          No one is suggesting charging it via a USB cable connected to your desktop. But it would allow him to use other chargers he already has instead of a proprietory one.

          Maybe he's not interested in charging it quickly, but just wants to share cables instead of carrying a non-standard cable with it.

          My Surface Pro 4's charger connection comes loose so easily, it slips out if you just move the tablet while it's charging. USB would be a bit more secure at least, and allow me to charge with a power bank when I'm out.

        • +1

          @lostn:

          You said products like this can't be charged via USB

          Talk about getting quoted out of context. I am offering general information and advice, not a frigging legal contract SHeesh!

          What I meant was that THIS Lenovo laptop cannot be charged by USB. Well, it can if you use some form of converter, but it CANNOT be directly charged by USB. Well, not the standard USB ports and chargers that people know.

          And furthermore, most (almost all, but there ARE exceptions) devices like this that require multi-cell Lithium batteries cannot be charged directly by USB either. What I was attempting to explain was WHY that is so - why USB charging is uncommon, where it is almost universal in low powered devices like phones.

          The rest of my posts are to explain all the other ways that people CAN charge things from USB. There is heaps of ways of doing it, and heaps of devices that have inbuilt ways of doing it. There are alternative protocols like USB-C and QC 2.0 and QC 3.0 that are designed to work around the limitations of 5V 2A USB port capacity.

          So, USB charging is not an insurmountable problem. It is certainly possible. But not for THIS Lenovo, as supplied in this deal, unless you buy additional accessories. And that is what this discussion is about, in response to THIS POST from XXX

          I've no idea how quick, but it uses the one and only USB port which happens to be Type C

          Yes, and USB-C is a special protocol, and it will become more common as time goes by. However it's not "USB" as most people know it, and finding USB-C battery powerbanks that output 20V is difficult. To charge by USB-C you need a USB-C cable AND a power device that can communicate with the USB-C chips and negotiate a charge voltage and current and then supply the higher voltage than the standard 5V that "normal" USB provides.

          USB-C is not the same as normal USB. You can charge a USB 5V device like a phone from a USB-C charger. However you cannot charge a USB-C device that requires more than 5V from a 5V USB supply.

          This is just general advice. Simple answers. It's not intended to be some form of epeen "I know more about technology than you do" mass debate. I know a considerable amount on this subject and am deliberately NOT being overly technical. Don't ruin it by making it that we need to have 20 pages of disclaimers in order to discuss things here.

      • Just to put this to bed, chargers can be purchased here -> http://mikegyver.net/products/devices/

        Too expensive for my OzBargain wallet though;-)

        • The "chargers" on that page are for Surface Pro, however they seem to have some for Yogo (didn't see any for IdeaPad). Didn't even bother researching, as it's one of those things that needs consideration and thought before purchasing.

          Nevertheless there are many places to buy similar devices and adaptors. You can make one yourself using a boost converter from Ebay.

          But the bottom line is that laptops use a lot of power and that means big batteries. To reacharge a 4-cell 18650 battery in a small laptop, you will need raw batteries even larger than that to allow for the losses in the laptop charger.

          If you are using something that outputs 5V USB, then you need to step up that voltage which means at least 1.3 times larger again to allow for conversion losses from 5V up to the required voltage of the laptop. Also, USB is technically only a sustained maximum of 2A which is just 10W, about 4 times smaller than a typical 40W laptop charger.

          So, using USB is simply too slow, unless perhaps there is QC 2.0 or 3.0 chips that can run the USB at 12V to get a decent wattage out of it. All of this is like polishing a turd - trying to solve a problem that you create for yourself, where it would be simpler and better and cheaper not start off with something (USB) that is completely unsuitable for the application.

          So USB output is an inferior solution, and it's better to use a dedicated battery pack which outputs the 15V, 18V or 20V that the laptop normally draws off the mains charger. This will keep the charging times reasonable as well.

          However the best solution is to purchase a laptop or tablet that does the job you need it to do. Whilst an Android device, I am typing this on an Asus TF300 and it has fabulous battery life due to having 2 batteries inside. The bottom line is that if you want a laptop with long battery life then buy a laptop that has long battery life, rather than a cheaper laptop plus hundreds of dollars worth of external batteries.

        • The following link explains things. The Yoga / Miix has a none standard USB that uses 20V for charging -> https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-Yoga-Series-Notebooks/Wh…

        • @mostlygordon

          The Yoga / Miix has a none standard USB that uses 20V for charging

          And you can read the Q&A that states that you CANNOT charge it via normal USB (since USSB is only 5V, and the laptop needs 20V).

          People here cannot seem to grasp what I was saying - it's not the USB that is the issue, it's the voltage. A USB connector at 5V cannot supply enough Amps to charge a large laptop battery with reasonable speed.

        • Normal USB cant supply any charge (not even slow) to this lappy it is non-standard USB and has two extra pins for 20V charging.

      • I would love to write a piece about the usb-pd spec, and the use of dcdc converters, but I'm on holiday…so let's just leave it at this. If the MacBook charges perfectly fine at 5v, I'm sure others can manage it!

        • I'm sure others can manage it

          LOTS of devices can. But this Lenovo cannot.

          This deal is a Lenovo that cannot be charged by USB. unless you get a DC-DC converter or a powerbank that outputs 8 or 20V. Which IS available from numerous sources.

  • how about warranty??

    • +2

      how about warranty??

      What about it?

      • how long warranty?

        • +20

          how long warranty?

          Warranty long time - 8760 hours

        • +1

          @Maverick-au:

          8760 hours minus postage and handling :)

    • +2

      12 months i think, Australian. So you could argue that with consumer law it should be at least 2 years, cos phones cheaper than this have 2 years warranty.

      Also has Lenovo international warranty in case you want to travel.

      • 12 months i think, Australian. So you could argue that with consumer law it should be at least 2 years, cos phones cheaper than this have 2 years warranty.

        And they can argue that this is 40% of the price of a surface pro 4.

        BTW this isn't a phone, it's a full blown PC.

  • +2

    Nice timing. I'd been playing with a Yoga 700 that a local OW were putting out for $750 as it had been the display model. Admittedly an i5, and I was close to pulling the plug, but holding back as the screen was quite dim and it was in effect second hand, and a little scratched up. This is only ~ 3/4 the grunt, but higher res, lighter, cheaper and the keyboard being detachable [and the Watcom stylus] makes it more useful in tablet mode :-) Thanks O.P.

    • +1

      Very different lappy, I have one of these too. The Yoga you can actually use on your lap and has a much faster CPU with discrete GPU, but also much heavier. Also the Yoga has backlit (and much better) keyboard. You can just get them both;-)

      • True, but for my purposes, the `lighter' was the plus, the screen on the yoga, while high res, was a bit dark and short on contrast wehn viewing photos, so the $150 mad a difference :-) This one is for stock-take and creating/updating a center presentation slide show plus some lightweight photo editing. I was comparing more to a Samsung note:-)

        • Mine too, I use the Miix much more than the Yoga.

  • -1

    I dont understand the point of a 12" 1440p screen. Surely at 12" 1080p is enough?

    • -1

      I dont understand the point of a 12" 1440p screen. Surely at 12" 1080p is enough?

      Pointless post of the week…. I suppose 1GB is enough and 64GB of storage….. Why stop there…. 640x480 is ample….

      • Haha, true enough I guess

        • Haha, true enough I guess

          The screen is awesome on this tablet, a 1080 screen would not be as nice.

    • There are 1440p screens on 5" phones you know..

      • -1

        Which if you ask me are a complete waste of battery power, just my opinion

        • An opinion I don't share, because I get great battery life out of my S6.

        • @lostn:great battery life is also an opinion

    • +3

      My Nexus 10 has a 2560 x 1600 screen. I'm over 60, but trust me, tho you can't see the pixels, you can pick the difference side by side with a 1080 one. It's a bit like the difference between JVC or a Perreaux amp, a casual listen and you wonder why you would bother, but in use, far more pleasant and rewarding. Fonts are sharper and it is less tiring to use.
      The pay-off is battery life - then again, stop me if I've banged on about how great my nexus 10 is before…

  • Nice find. Anyone know if the ram is upgradeable?

    • Nice find. Anyone know if the ram is upgradeable?

      No it's not.

      • Ooops, wrong post :)

  • Yo can anyone vouch for this product, is it fast and snappy with the ssd? is it nice to take notes during lecture, how is the keyboard layout? is it pleasant to type on? does the keys give good feedback? is it possible to replace ssd?

    • -4

      Yo can anyone vouch for this product, is it fast and snappy with the ssd? is it nice to take notes during lecture, how is the keyboard layout? is it pleasant to type on? does the keys give good feedback? is it possible to replace ssd?

      Read the other deals on this product and your questions will be answered.

    • +1

      I can say it's built to a price. For example, the stylus is vastly inferior to the SP4, or even the Acer Switch Alpha. The keyboard is also a bit flimsy, the SP4 keyboard has this aspect blown to bits imho.

      It's worst sin, however, is the track pad. Arguably the worst I've ever encountered.

      If you're going to buy one, invest in a good Bluetooth mouse.

      • With that being said, do you think its a worthy investment?

        • It's a depreciating asset, so no, not an investment :p

          Having said this for $600 you're not going to find anything with these specs. In all fairness to Lenovo, the main unit is solidly built, though clearly the use of quality plastics is not as good as the SP4 (as you'd expect).

          imho- the Acer Switch Alpha 12 is the best of both worlds, cheaper than the SP4 and better built than the Miix, however Acer is not doing any good deals atm.

        • @rodripa:

          This was built to compete against the Surface Pro 3 and Type Cover 3, which it beats. And then out came the SP4 and Type Cover 4.

          Free keyboard too, if you're comparing to the Type Cover 4 which is RRP $199

  • +1

    Wow , great catch! Thanks for sharing!

  • +1

    got one…cheers.

    • +1

      Funny thing is when I get my one plus three, my phone will have more memory than my laptop :p

  • Does this come with a tax invoice, ie can I claim TRS? Thanks

    • +1

      Does this come with a tax invoice, ie can I claim TRS? Thanks

      Of course it does and if not contact them and ask for one.

      • +1

        Thanks mate

  • +1

    How would this perform running an android emulator? Can anyone recommend a good emulator?

  • -3

    Hw does this compare to a samsung galaxy tab s2? I got it from the last deal from BingLee which I am happy with. Asking just out of curiosity. Thnx

    • +2

      your samsung is an android tablet, this one is a full windows 10 pro laptop/tablet convertible. Apples and oranges.

  • +1

    It's a nice price, however shame the one with actually usable specs (8GB, 256GB, Intel Core M5) is double the price: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-IdeaPad-Miix-700-12-Intel-…

    I am using a 4GB/128GB macbook air to write this, which is my old laptop, I use it still just in bed beacuse I am too lazy to unplug my main laptop - but the memory is not enough for what I do.

    This one is tempting, the Asus Transformer 3 (Pro and non pro) are also tempting. But I will still wait for a 7th Gen - Thunderbold 3 devices coming in the next few months hopefully.

  • Good price, and good tablet/surface replacement

    I got m5/4G/128G version for AU$660 from Amazon month ago. It's really good. 4G memory would be a problem, if you wish to use it as a heavy workload pc, but it's ok if you use it as tablet or simple work pc.

    Shortcomings:
    1, Win 10 don't have many specific apps, and touch screen is not compatible with some desktop website. eg, realestate.com.au
    2, surface is pretty easy to scratch. Mine's 'Ideapad' logo is already scratched off

    • Many people complain battery and I was confused as well (run out after night even you don't use it). I found that's because 'sleep' mode. My recommendation is disable all 'sleep' and use 'hibernate', which would make it 'standby' for a longer time.
  • Will lightroom and photoshop work fine in this laptop?

    • I would like to know this as well. Although if you google the question, people have not had a good experience on surface pro, I imagine that it would be worse here..

      • This post on Whirlpool says the M3 model works fine with photoshop
        http://whrl.pl/Rezrnb

    • It will work, but as any of these kind of applicaitons, depending on the size of the photo, and the complexity of layers, brushes etc may work better with the 8GB models.
      Many on this forum use the Miix 700:
      http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/threads/the-miix-700-is-leno…

      but you can see most opt for the 8GB model, I think some over there have run the adobe apps on the 4GB, although for the miix 700 in general there are issues with the pen driver and keyboard/touchpad which may still be unresolved.

  • bought one thanks

  • +3

    I have one of these (albeit an m7 w/ LTE). The neg comments about the keyboard, pen and trackpad are over-exaggerating the scale of the issues. The machine is a powerhouse, sips the battery and has a super bright screen with an amazing resolution. Highly recommended, especially at this price.

    • +2

      Thank you. You have confirmed my purchase was a decent one. I wish more people have comments like yours that benefits others. Good stuff

  • Some dude bought 6x on 06-Oct-16 20:47:23 AEDST

    http://offer.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item…

    =D

  • Anyone know of any good Screen Protectors for these, and where to get them?

    Seen a few Skinomi TechSkin on eBay but they're a little more pricey than I'd like, especially for something that I expect to get scratched up.

  • Got mine delivered today. So far pretty impressed but can't seem to find how to change the settings for reserve scrolling on the trackpad. Anyone know? Thanks

    • I think you can change the scrolling direction via administrative powershell to change the registry:

      The top line is for reversing up and down and the bottom for left/right:

      <code>
      Get-ItemProperty HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\HID**\DeviceParameters FlipFlopWheel -EA 0 | ForEach-Object { Set-ItemProperty $_.PSPath FlipFlopWheel 1 } Get-ItemProperty HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\HID\*\*\Device Parameters FlipFlopHScroll -EA 0 | ForEach-Object { Set-ItemProperty $_.PSPath FlipFlopHScroll 1 }
      </code>
      from:

      https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Windows-based-Tablets/Miix-700-…
      http://www.tenforums.com/drivers-hardware/32448-reverse-scro…

      • An update to those unfamiliar with powershell (like I was)
        1. save the code from http://www.tenforums.com/drivers-hardware/32448-reverse-scro… as a file called reverse-scroll.ps1 on your desktop.
        2. save a version with a 0 instead of 1 near the end of each line as reset-scroll.ps1 (in case you want to go back)
        3. click on your start button, type powershell, right click on the powershell icon and then click Run as Administrator
        4. navigate to your desktop by typing cd \users\<your user name>\desktop
        5. change the script execution policy in powershell by typing set-executionpolicy unrestricted
        6. run the script by typing reverse-scroll.ps1
        7. change the script execution policy back by typing set-executionpolicy restricted
        8. reboot the laptop, the touchpad should now scroll the other way

        If you want to revert changes, run steps 3 - 8, but in step 6 type reset-scroll.ps1)
        I tested this on windows 10 but not (yet) on a miix 700 - I will have that in a week or so

        • Thanks Pete2.
          Will give it a go tonight.

  • For those wanting more RAM, (and not concerned about warranty) there is a good deal on the Miix 700 M7 8GB 256 SSD if you have a US forwarder. USD $599.99
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017OF6T9O

    • Which is a good freight forwarder to go with in terms of reliability and price?

    • Yeah, Amazon have had $599 m7/8GB/256SSD Miix 700 deals for a few months. Ruled out the Spectre X2, as I needed a docking station…

      So whats the difference between these two Lenovo Miix 700 products (80QL000CUS and 80QL005NUS).

      1) Lenovo IdeaPad Miix 700 - 12" 2-in-1 Latop/Tablet (Intel Core m7, 8GB SDRAM, 256GB SSD) 80QL000CUS —- $599

      2) Lenovo Miix 700 80QL005NUS 12-Inch 2-in-1 IdeaPad Laptop/Tablet (Intel Core m7, 8 GB SDRAM, 256 GB SSD, Windows 10 Home), Gold —- $862

      Both state the same specifications - M8/8GB/256SSD and are gold. But one is $599 and the other is $862. Have I missed something?

      Also is the active pen included for US versions?

      • It seems hard to find a definitive answer, but the comments in the video, and the video unboxing itself shows the 80QL000CUS to include the pen.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQc8KRmbjoM

        • Thank you! Did you see any difference between the $599 and $862 versions?

          I am not sure if I have I missed something?

        • +1

          @db2k:
          Apart from having Windwos 10 Home instead of Pro, the 80QL005NUS version does not come with the pen, refer DLuce76 and JLB_1 comments here:
          https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-80QL005NUS-12-0-Inch-Laptop-Ta…

          The only other difference could possibly be the rear camera - I think the CUS model has the standard 5MP camera + flash, but dont know whether or not the NUS model has the Realsense rear camera instead.

          refer here:(although note neither model included in this)
          http://psref.lenovo.com/Product/IdeaPad_Miix_700?search=true

  • Can you upgrade the SSD yourself? I got a SanDisk SSD plus lying around

  • Is this one black or gold in colour?

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