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Philips 43" 4K IPS Monitor BDM4350UC $760.75 ($660.75 after Philips Cashback) @ Computer Alliance eBay

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Philips 43" 4K IPS Monitor BDM4350UC $760.75 ($660.75 after Philips Cashback) @ Computer Alliance eBay
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Considering a 34" ultrawide? Consider this 43" monster instead. It's wider than a 34", much taller, and has similar ppi. Philips are even kind enough to include a VGA cable in case you need to hook it up to your Windows 95 computer.

Key features:

  • IPS
  • W-LED backlight (non-PWM, flicker-free)
  • 100% sRGB (someone on WP measured it at 99%)
  • 200x200 VESA mount
  • 4-port USB 3.0 hub
  • Audio in, headphone out
  • 2x DisplayPort 1.2, 2x HDMI 2.0 MHL, 1x VGA
  • DisplayPort, HDMI, VGA cables included
  • Built-in speakers
  • Zero-watt standby with a physical power switch
  • 9.4kg without stand

Philips website
Comprehensive review here
Whirlpool thread here

One thing to remember to do is to get into the OSD and set the DisplayPort inputs on the monitor to 1.2 (or HDMI inputs to 2.0) to get 60Hz as it defaults to 1.1 which will only give you 30Hz.

$895 - 10% = $805.50, plus $15 shipping = $820.50
Philips cashback is $100, making it $720.50.

Cashrewards will return a further $11.64, making it $708.87.

$879 at MSY
$834.95 + $56 ship at Warehouse1 (no pickup)
$899 at Umart
(All should qualify for the $100 cashback too)

There were early reports about image retention, but that seems to have only affected early batches in the US. I don't experience it on mine.

Actual panel dimensions:
37.5"/95.2cm wide
21.1"/53.5cm high

34" ultrawide panel dimensions:
31.4"/79.7cm wide
13.1"/33.3cm high

Original CLAP10 deal here

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  • Click_It on 12/06/2017 - 10:28
    +1

    Great deal, exactly what I'd be buying right now if I were in the market for one.

    • dreamscene on 13/06/2017 - 01:07
      -6

      DO NOT BUY. IT'S NOT HDR.

      • Zondor on 13/06/2017 - 11:45
        +1

        It's a monitor not a TV.

        HDR isn't great for games atm anyway, look at the ME: Andromeda comparisons.

        • neosin on 14/06/2017 - 23:15

          lol what! you have no idea what you are talking about dude!

          HDR in games makes a HUGE difference!

          ALL new releases from now will support HDR on PC as well as consoles!

        • Zondor on 15/06/2017 - 09:34
          -1

          @neosin:

          Watch this then /watch?v=cgBzpYTn_8c

        • neosin on 16/06/2017 - 22:54

          @Zondor:

          lol! Mass effect Androm? LOL!

          That junk isn't even worth watching!

          Shows you are just a sheep!

          The fact that the reviewer asked the viewers "which on you think looks better on youtube shows he knows nothing about HDR as a normal camera won't capture what you see in real life and the fact that youtube doesn't support proper HDR.

          Use your brain a little and search GT Sport hdr vs no hdr, infamous ps4 hdr vs no hdr, uncharted 4, horizon zero dawn and then tell me HDR makes no difference! Again you won't be able to tell on your crappy std monitor but the reviewers will all tell you it is a world of difference on PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED GAMES!

          If you know anything about mass effect, they probably put as much effort into implementing HDR in that game as the facial animations LOL!

        • Zondor on 17/06/2017 - 10:48

          @neosin: Did you even look at the mass effect footage.

          Sorry that your so triggered by someone having a differing opinion ¯_(ツ)_/¯

  • petal666 on 12/06/2017 - 10:39

    I don't understand how the ppi can be similar for a much larger screen with the same 4k resolution.

    • eug on 12/06/2017 - 10:43
      +10

      A 34" UWQHD ultrawide (which isn't 4K btw, it has far fewer pixels than a 4K monitor) has a different aspect ratio to this 43", so you can't compare the inches directly.

      34" 3440x1440 21:9 (4.72 megapixels):
      Display size: 31.36" × 13.13" = 411.76in² (79.66cm × 33.35cm = 2656.48cm²) at 109.68 PPI, 0.2316mm dot pitch

      43" 3840x2160 16:9 (7.91 megapixels)
      Display size: 37.48" × 21.08" = 790.08in² (95.19cm × 53.55cm = 5097.26cm²) at 102.46 PPI, 0.2479mm dot pitch

      The 34" has 7% higher ppi, which will look pretty much the same as the 43" at normal viewing distances.

      ppi calculator

      • Hellman109 on 12/06/2017 - 17:55

        displaywars.com is also good for comparing physical sizes

  • ca6leguy on 12/06/2017 - 10:39

    Is this a TV?

    • y12345678 on 12/06/2017 - 11:10
      +2

      I'm wondering if I can use as a TV as well. I use tv set top box any way.

      could anyone tell me is there any issue?

      • eug on 12/06/2017 - 11:12
        +5

        No problem, you can plug it into one of the HDMI ports.

        It also supports multiview where it can display 4 inputs on the screen at once.

        • AlexG on 12/06/2017 - 11:31
          +4

          Usually monitors have sh*t speakers compared to a tv. If you're running the sound through an amp, then it would probably be okay though.

        • y12345678 on 12/06/2017 - 12:16

          @AlexG:
          thanks. point taken.

        • y12345678 on 12/06/2017 - 12:17

          sounds a good feature. I may do more research on this monitor.

        • bargaino on 12/06/2017 - 12:20

          @AlexG:
          Most TVs have not had good speakers since they went flat-panel. Actually, very few even in the CRT days.

        • ChadHominem on 12/06/2017 - 17:12
          +1

          @y12345678: I use a Samsung 40" ku6000 tv as a monitor. I find the sound is pretty decent for a lower end model, probably because it isn't as thin as the better models. It actually sounds more full than a Sony sound bar that I inherited from my dad (he's still alive, just bought a new sound bar :P)

    • m9 on 12/06/2017 - 11:25
      +10

      You call yourself a cable guy?

  • fusion17 on 12/06/2017 - 10:45
    -5

    Sounds like a great gaming monitor for the price.

    Edit: 27ish ms of input lag
    Pretty sure that's better than most, but certainly not every 4k tv.
    Not good enough.

  • Vladdo on 12/06/2017 - 10:59
    +2

    Nice.. think it will compliment my 40" 4k philips.. my wife will hate me hehe

  • [Deactivated] on 12/06/2017 - 11:12

    Can't see any use for it for a programmer.

    • eug on 12/06/2017 - 11:15
      +4

      You can easily distract yourself with a running youtube window in one corner while you code in the other.

      Or you can have multiple full windows of code visible at one time. Or have a large debug window always on the side. Or have reference docs always there. etc etc.

      • [Deactivated] on 12/06/2017 - 11:18

        All that sounds good, but this is a huge monitor and will most things will be abiuve the eye level or too far…

        • eug on 12/06/2017 - 11:21

          Yeah, it depends on the person's preferences. It won't suit everyone's workflow or usage scenarios for sure. It is certainly a huge monitor.

          I have no regrets though, as I can always resize my working window to fit within my main field of view, and have auxiliary programs/windows/toolbars off to the sides. That way I have quick access to everything without blocking what I'm working on.

  • mg_k on 12/06/2017 - 11:14
    +1

    how's this screen for photo editing work?

    • eug on 12/06/2017 - 12:51
      +4

      It's good, with 99-100% sRGB coverage. I calibrated my white point to 6494K, measured CR is 1006:1.

  • AussieGargain on 12/06/2017 - 11:16
    +4

    Review is here if anyone interested: https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/philips-bdm4350uc/

  • nzcoops on 12/06/2017 - 11:16

    "Cut out the Serial Number Label from the product packaging and mail it with your Claim Reference Code to:"
    Cashback is only $99, maybe less. Requires a $1 postage stamp and an envelope. And a printer.
    http://brilliancemmd.com/4kcashback/how_to_claim_online_$100.php
    Even their 'online claim' process requires something to be posted in.

    • eug on 12/06/2017 - 11:18
      +1

      The mailing bit is silly (they're probably hoping people forget!), but it doesn't require a printer. You just write the claim number down on the back of the label, or on a scrap piece of paper.

      • nzcoops on 12/06/2017 - 11:22

        Ah, fair call, my bad!

      • Diji1 on 12/06/2017 - 11:47

        probably

        Highly probably. Certainly even.

      • sistermay on 12/06/2017 - 11:58

        Make sure you follow EXACTLY what they want you to send in for claims. I previously had 2 claims they did not pay me for the irons because I did not cut the barcode off from the boxes to send in but instead photo copy them. It was stupid of Philips because they were gifts and I had to cut a hole to the boxes ???!!!!
        Anyway even I later send the cut out barcode to them I heard nothing since from Philips so pretty much lost the 2 claims.

  • zan5hin on 12/06/2017 - 11:18
    +2

    Argh… my laptop only has HDMI 1.4a which does 4K @ 30hz, which is holding me back from grabbing this deal.

    I miss my Dell 3007WFP-HC…. which was a bargain at $2400 back in the day.

  • Osiris on 12/06/2017 - 11:42

    Good deal but my next upgrade will be the 40" curved one

    • eug on 12/06/2017 - 11:48
      +4

      Curved monitors caught my eye, but then I realized straight lines won't always look straight which might be annoying for photo/video work, so I went for a flat monitor instead.

      • chartparker on 12/06/2017 - 12:03
        +5

        I have the bdm4037u at work and do extensive CAD and photo editing daily. It's such a subtle curve that it really doesn't affect straight lines enough to make a difference. I have zero issues with using it for even doing production drawings

      • Click_It on 12/06/2017 - 12:06

        Yeah I really liked the idea of curved until I realised that about straight lines. I do a fair amount of video editing and I reckon it would throw me off.

        EDIT: Though nytrojen suggests otherwise so it might be worth looking further into. Being so large maybe the curve isn't too bad for productivity.

        • m9 on 12/06/2017 - 12:32
          +2

          It's better you check them out in person. Just like eug, I too noticed the curve on straight lines so I went with the flat instead.

        • chartparker on 12/06/2017 - 18:50

          @m9: Each to their own- the only way to know for sure if it'll affect you is to try one out IRL. The curve impacts me so little that I actually consistently forget that it's even a curved monitor, and it usually takes a visitor to go "oh cool it's even curved!" for me to remember.

    • bargaino on 12/06/2017 - 12:22

      Good deal but my next upgrade will be the 40" curved one

      And 3D. Must be 3D. And quadraphonic sound.

  • aromatase on 12/06/2017 - 12:31

    Does any one know if this will pair with the new MacBook Pro? It should still output 60hz 4K?

    • ChoiceScarf on 12/06/2017 - 12:58

      You'll most likely be better off with a monitor that has USB-C input, otherwise you'll have to deal with ugly dongles. If you are after a similar size alternative, the LG 43UD79 looks like a good panel with usb-c support.

      • aromatase on 12/06/2017 - 13:18

        That's a good suggestion, seems quite a bit more pricey.

        I really wanted a lg34uc97. A 21:9 screen with USB c, but it's too expensive.

        I wonder, with the huge display of 40 inches, it's definitely "wide enough", but whether it's uncomfortable on a desk. Any users of a 40 inch screen find it un ergonomic? I imagine a lot will be above eye level.

        • eug on 12/06/2017 - 13:46

          It can be unergonomic if you're constantly looking at the sides or corners. The way you'd use it is to have your main working area in your field of vision, with less-frequently used windows or toolbars on the sides and corners for easy access without blocking your main working area.

          If you're working on documents, you can have three full-height windows next to each other with your main workspace in front of you, and two reference documents on the left and right.

          With Lightroom you can have a much larger main image in the Develop pane.

          It basically gives you more freedom than a 21:9 screen. You can resize your windows to the same dimensions as a 21:9 34" screen, and still have extra space around to put more toolbars or apps for quick access.

          As a bonus, if you feel like relaxing, all the videos you watch will fill the whole screen and be way larger than a 21:9 34" displaying 16:9 content. And at desktop viewing distances, you'll definitely see the 4K difference (compared to FHD).

        • aromatase on 12/06/2017 - 14:47

          @eug:

          Good to know! Yes, I'll probably have alot of browser tabs open (70+) and pdf/doc files.

          I don't game much, but have a r9 380/i3 and play overwatch occasionally. It should be ok to scale the game down to 19201080? Get 80-90fps on ultra on a 60hz 24" 19201080. Don't play or anticipate to play too much..

    • futaris on 12/06/2017 - 13:12

      Yes, as long as you use a USB-C to Displayport 1.2 cable, or a USB-C to HDMI 2.0 cable.

  • jelicano on 12/06/2017 - 13:51

    FYI on Giftcard might be a one-off though..

    I went through the online claim form and uploaded everything that was required to submit. Went through fine and got my confirmation number on screen at the same time an email alert from Philips. Thinking that all those details were sent, i closed the popup screen with my confirmation number and opened my email.

    The email didn't contain anything other than a remainder to where to send the cutout. tried contacting them to attempt to get my confirmation number but didn't get any response and also couldn't resubmit as the SN has already been claimed.

    While waiting to figure out what to do or a response a Westfield Gift Card came by registered mail from Philips. My barcode cutout still with me.

    Just to be sure make sure you take a note of your confirmation number from the pop-up as you will not get this anywhere else.

  • lostn on 12/06/2017 - 14:21

    That's a big monitor.

  • bargainhunter on 12/06/2017 - 14:29

    I enjoyed the sass OP.
    Ta

  • Store RepComputer Alliance @ Computer Alliance on 12/06/2017 - 14:40
    +15

    Hi Guys.

    I'm GM @ CA and can help with some feedback on this model. I have been using one of these at home as a secondary screen, mainly for occasional photo editing etc. For the price, I think it was a good deal at the $1k it cost when I bought one, even better with current discounts. For creative professionals there are better screens, but at several times the price and top end screens are all smaller (hate to admit it, but my eyes are not up to small 4k screens any more!).

    • Its is a TV style panel/design, though no TV tuner and plenty of PC connectivity options but its mount and feel is more like a TV
    • Reminds me — it will default to the older display port version limited to 30Hz even plugged into the new version cards. To get it running at 60Hz, go to its menu and manually change it to display port 1.2. (stupid design!)
    • It can suffer from a light burn in. eg if you switch to a grey background you may be able to read prior text that had been sitting on the screen. Thats not great for a monitor but in practical use its not noticeable and seems to fix itself over time (ie I have not seen it stuck with a bad burn in). I suggest at least setting your wallpaper to rotate though, to reduce the issue.
    • Colours are good, quite beautiful images and lots of space when editing. I find it a lot easier to edit being able to see more of the image in context.
    • Its big. Damn big. This looks a lot like 4 x 21" FHD screens stuck together and for that reason you can keep scaling at 100% and stuff doesn't get too microscopic (win 10 will boost scaling to something stupid, 200% or more from memory, change it back!).
    • The size though means you want it back a bit further than you might with a smaller screen. It its close you get some serious angle to the corners and find you are only using the middle. Its going to be a bit too big for some people, especially if you have a small desk
    • Awesome as a spare movie/TV/Xbox etc playing screen (with device plugged in our course, remember no tuner)

    For people who want a bit more insight into monitor specs, colour gamuts etc, you might want to skim over the following blog article I knocked up a while back https://blog.computeralliance.com.au/438/picture-perfect-how…

    • futaris on 12/06/2017 - 15:29
      +1

      Thanks for linking to the blog article.

  • Mike88 on 12/06/2017 - 14:52

    Any deals on a cheap GPU to run screen at 60hz?

    • Store RepComputer Alliance @ Computer Alliance on 12/06/2017 - 15:09
      +1

      Nothing in particular from us directly at the moment, but Ebay do have 10% off everything today which helps bring that down.

      Also note $15 flat shipping so no extra for shipping if bought with a monitor.

      • eug on 12/06/2017 - 16:12
        +1

        Also note $15 flat shipping so no extra for shipping if bought with a monitor.

        Couriers Please are excellent. I bought it on Thursday night, you shipped it Friday morning, I received it Friday around 1pm. Of course being in the same city helps. :)

    • futaris on 12/06/2017 - 15:31

      Maybe anything above a Geforce GT1030 (for Desktop Usage).

  • ChadHominem on 12/06/2017 - 15:04

    I use a 40" Samsung ku6000 as my 4k monitor and I sometimes feel like it is a bit too big. And I'm not usually the type to admit it, I'm more of the "bigger is better" guy. I personally wouldn't go any larger than 40", even if it was curved, because the vertical dimensions just make it less comfortable to look at compared to smaller or wider monitors. That being said, I think the price is great, and you could always sit a bit further from the monitor if you found it too large :P

    • D6C1 on 12/06/2017 - 19:46

      I use the same on my surface book. Lag kills me 29hz @ 4k. I went back to full HD resolution to get 60hz. It sucks

      • eug on 12/06/2017 - 20:11

        The Surface Book can do 4K 60Hz single-monitor. Surely with a 40-43" monitor, just having one monitor would be workable?

        • D6C1 on 12/06/2017 - 20:17

          Nope. Not on the ku6000. If you have a way to make it work please let me know.

        • eug on 12/06/2017 - 20:49

          @D6C1: It must be your monitor then. I just plugged my Surface Book into my Philips and the OSD displays 3840x2160 60Hz.

          Then I tried activating the laptop display (3000x2000) as well, and they both ran fine together. The monitor stayed at 4K 60Hz.

        • ChadHominem on 12/06/2017 - 20:51

          @D6C1: Are you connecting to HDMI IN 1 on the ku6000? It's the only input that supports full 4k60 4:4:4 and only if you enable 'HDMI UHD Color' in Picture > Expert Settings

        • eug on 12/06/2017 - 20:56

          @mrdavedave: Mmm sorry, I was referring to this Philips. The SB can do 4k 60Hz, so if you can't get it to work with your monitor, it's something to do with your monitor, not the SB. Your post seemed like you were saying your SB can't do 4K at 60Hz.

        • ChadHominem on 12/06/2017 - 20:59

          @eug: Hey?
          I think there's some confusion, I was replying to D6C1 :P

        • eug on 12/06/2017 - 21:00
          +1

          @mrdavedave: Hahaha yes… yes you were! Carry on. :)

        • D6C1 on 12/06/2017 - 21:56

          @mrdavedave: hmmmm I'm connecting in HDMI 1 at the back of the ku6000. I'll check the setting tomorrow and report back.

        • D6C1 on 12/06/2017 - 21:58

          @eug: sorry eug :) I got the Samsung not Phillips. Wanted the Phillips originally but snagged the Samsung at 20% at the time. If I waited, would have got the Phillips.

        • D6C1 on 13/06/2017 - 09:59

          @mrdavedave: HDMI UHD Color is enabled and cant get 4k @ 60HZ

        • ChadHominem on 13/06/2017 - 13:16

          @D6C1: Oh =/

          Other than that, the only things that I did were to use a fairly short HDMI cable (~1m) and to manually change the refresh rate to 60hz in the video card adapter settings. I think by default it was stuck on 29 or 30hz like yours. Sorry if you've already tried those things, might be a surface book thing that eug can help you with. The ku6000 does work for me with those settings though.

        • D6C1 on 13/06/2017 - 16:29

          @mrdavedave: with a surface book?

        • ChadHominem on 13/06/2017 - 17:39

          @D6C1: Nope. XPS 15 using a USB C to HDMI 2.0 adapter, because the built in HDMI is v1.4. That works fine along with the other things I mentioned. Sorry I can't help with surface book

  • JAY13 on 12/06/2017 - 15:18

    Hi , TV or Monitor which one is better for eye protection if U use them to watch videos most of the time. Do they use the same tech or monitors are better for eye protection, any idea ?

    • Store RepComputer Alliance @ Computer Alliance on 12/06/2017 - 15:30
      +2

      Makes no practical difference.

      Many TVs and monitors flick the backlight on and off to lower apparent average brightness, though the frequency is still pretty high (about 175Hz) and it won't impact most people. For some the "flicker free" panels might be better as they use a different method to reduce brightness and the flicker issue goes away. Otherwise a lot of the "eye protection" is just marketing hype.

      Best thing you can do for your eyes is to set the screen a reasonable/comfortable distance from your eyes. Very close is bad, more than arms length is better.

      • JAY13 on 12/06/2017 - 15:33

        Thanks for your reply

      • eug on 12/06/2017 - 16:19
        +1

        FWIW, this monitor uses a flicker-free panel, i.e. the backlight doesn't use PWM to control brightness.

  • chrisd82 on 12/06/2017 - 15:23
    +2

    I have the Korean Wusabi Mango 43" for just over a year now which I think is the same panel and has been exceptional for photo editing/design work. I replaced a 30" Dell in a Tri Screen setup but I would use 2 of these in a dual screen setup if I just didn't spend money on more gear last week

  • Winman on 12/06/2017 - 16:22

    Nice deal at the moment. Bought this from futu_online ebay store when it has 20% off sale, ending up with $800 delivered. Setting it up with my NUC, working perfectly. Love this big screen so much. It definitely worth the money if your are in market for a 43 inch monitor. Well, still waiting for $100 cash back from Philips.

  • GerrardLFC on 12/06/2017 - 17:11

    How far back do you guys sit from it?

    I currently have a Dell 27inch screen and was looking to upgrade to this bad boy

    • eug on 12/06/2017 - 17:29

      I upgraded from a Dell 27" to this. I actually sit at the same distance. There's a wall behind it so it can't go farther back. I might mount it on the wall when I get around to building a new desk some time soon.

      The 27" replaces the monitor that used to be beside it. The 27" now looks small!

      • GerrardLFC on 12/06/2017 - 20:34

        How do you find it compared to your 27inch Dell?

        Does it look weird at first being so huge :P

        • eug on 12/06/2017 - 20:51

          It does… I'm still getting used to it! It really feels like a huge window into my computer. Also, if I have lots of text to read, I can now just increase the font size and lie back in my chair and read comfortably.

  • 881jz on 12/06/2017 - 17:42
    +1

    my feedback if anyone wants it.
    I pretty much stopped using my computer once I bought this in February for $830 delivered from shopping express.
    my plans were to replace 2 old LCD non LED 24" monitors, tuner card and chrome-cast using the multiple inputs. however it is clunky to control, the power and selection buttons are done by a joystick on the back of the panel.
    perhaps something with my PC but i ran 1 display port and 1 HDMI from my video card, when the PC would wake from sleep the HDMI port took ownership of both displays, so i have to go through the joystick menus to correct it each time the PC sends the display to sleep.
    the option for me is to not let it sleep but then there are reviews pointing to burn-in.

    so it might be something with my video card but it just doesn't work properly for my needs with dual monitors and might be the same for others.

    • pw2002au on 12/06/2017 - 18:16

      Thanks - I was thinking something similar (4 screens running 1080p) with 2xPC, Xbox and rasp pi.

  • lordezekiel on 12/06/2017 - 18:20

    +1 For that Win95 callback!!

  • expatOz on 12/06/2017 - 21:42

    I bought this a while ago and returned it immediately. Horrible image retention. Futu online guys were great!!

    • BuyNow Think Later on 12/06/2017 - 22:26

      Was the image retention permanent or temporary?

      • expatOz on 13/06/2017 - 10:09

        I had for a couple of days, but it was temporary I guess. Menus stayed visible for 15m to 1hr before something else replaced it.

  • hibijibis on 12/06/2017 - 23:45

    seems like a good price. but cant help feeling this is too big for a desktop monitor. wasnt long ago these were considered a big tv!

  • chromium on 13/06/2017 - 00:35

    Can this run a PS4 Pro at 4k?

    I've got the old 40" model from a few years ago and I can oh do 4k using the displayport

    • lostn on 13/06/2017 - 10:38

      It has HDMI 2.0 so it should be fine.

  • mokkzzz on 14/06/2017 - 12:38

    Important information for Mac owners:

    This panel uses BGR pixel format. Not compatible with MacOS. Text will appear weird.
    Windows ClearType should mitigate this issue.

  • eug on 14/06/2017 - 18:55

    It's now $660.75 after cashback with CHOPCHOP!

  • smitchy on 14/06/2017 - 20:50
    -2

    For productivity this is pathetic, infact 4k for productivity use is pathetic period…. have you tried to use Windows 10 and apps in a 4k screen most are not even compatible yet. The only reason to get this TV is if your gaming. Ive seen it in the flesh and Windows fonts look jagged, not pleasant at all.

    • eug on 14/06/2017 - 21:05
      +1

      Clearly you have not seen a proper 4K monitor, especially a 40-43" one.

      Ive seen it in the flesh and Windows fonts look jagged, not pleasant at all.

      You have not seen a 40-43" 4K screen in the flesh. Text looks perfect, just as you'd expect. You set Windows to 100% scaling because the screen is so large. The pixel pitch is virtually the same as a 21.5" full HD monitor, so fonts look just like what they do on that 21.5" FHD monitor. You just get 4x the screen real estate.

      • smitchy on 15/06/2017 - 08:13

        I guess your definition of pixel pitch quality is different to mine coming from other high end displays. I saw this display at Mwave and laughed at it compared to what i was used to.

        • eug on 15/06/2017 - 08:28

          Pixel pitch is the distance between pixels, there's no quality involved. It's simply a physical measurement.
          Mwave must have left it at 300% scaling which is what Windows defaults to. You'll only need such high scaling if the monitor is small.

          Look at a properly-configured monitor before passing judgement. If you were at Harvey and saw a $2,000 TV connected via s-video, would you say the TV is pathetic, or it just wasn't set up right?

        • smitchy on 15/06/2017 - 09:01

          @eug:

          I have a 4k display in the lounge room and even at that resolution windows itself such as fonts, antialiasing is not good compared to something like a dell ultrasharp display. The difference in quality between a Phillips TV (thats what it is) and something like a Dell Ultrasharp Monitor is clear as rain.

        • eug on 15/06/2017 - 09:41

          @menkom: You shouldn't assume your TV is representative of how all 4K computer monitors look.

          This monitor replaced my Dell UltraSharp U2713H, which is now on the left. In fact, all the monitors in my 5-screen setup were UltraSharps, because I'm particular over image quality. Text rendering looks perfectly fine on this Philips.

        • smitchy on 15/06/2017 - 12:59

          @eug:

          This is more of a tv than a monitor… when doing my research i settled for a 34inch LG flat panel 3440px x 1440px instead of this Phillips im still going to stand by my word regardless that screen quality in physical view is not where near as sharp as the LG UltraWide i ended up getting when viewing side by side… Here is a video i found showing its faults that i agree with 100% https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWJ_uAkOiz8

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