Comments / Feedback / Suggestions Thread 2018

scotty on 03/01/2018 - 23:17

Continued from Comments / Feedback / Suggestions Thread 2017. This post will be used for general feedback in 2018. Please make any suggestions for new features, bugs, things you'd like to see changed or anything else. Please check this wiki page as your suggestion may already have been mentioned.

The majority of things you see, as well as policies on OzBargain were implemented based on user feedback. Please see the Site & Guideline Updates Announcement Thread to keep up to date with the changes/features that we implement as they are added.

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    • Moderatorneil on 14/02/2018 - 16:47

      For clarity, all features are tested on Cheapies and CheapCheapLah prior to OzBargain. They both had infinitive scrolling and still do.

      • 17833 on 14/02/2018 - 16:59

        It would be appreciated if a moderator, (for clarity, courtesy, collaboration), could give a blanket statement stating "this is what has been implemented, this is the rationale, and it is not going to change" to force people to try and get used to this new feature. (unless I have missed it most requests/complaints haven't been addressed and a reason for this change hasn't been published although again if I am wrong I apologise. I do note Scotty above commenting that I gather is suggesting that infinite scroll is intuitive/logical). Fine to correct my mistake within 15 minutes of me commenting, but it would be courteous to address the first part of my comment as well, not only my error. Apologies and can't edit now, I only use ozbargain.com.au/deals however was looking at main site in NZ and Singapore, reason for my error. I know this website is a business, but it is community driven, and many comments regarding this change have been from users that have supported and contributed to this site for many years, such as jv above.

        • Moderatorneil on 14/02/2018 - 17:12

          Infinitive scrolling on the new deals page is what has been implemented. You can see other sites around the world like HotUKDeals offering a similar feature. There may be changes to it in the future but these require more extensive development. Scotty is in charge of this feature which is why I can answer some questions quickly but can't answer questions which I'm not familiar with.

          It's been asked in multiple threads, so specifically the best place to discuss this is Load more results in New Deals update. All feedback is welcome.

        • Moderatorscotty on 14/02/2018 - 17:19

          A web site might host a community, but as the operator of the website we also need to look forward and plan for technology changes.

          Infinite scroll is here to stay. There's a way to opt-out for now (you'll see a button after a few pages of scrolling), but future development, new features, etc will all be rolled out around the assumption of staying on the same page.

          So here's the statement — this is what has been implemented and is not going to change.

        • 17833 on 14/02/2018 - 18:51

          @neil: Thank-you, had not seen that forum thread.

        • 17833 on 14/02/2018 - 18:54

          @scotty: Thanks, appreciate you replying.

  • jv on 15/02/2018 - 16:08
    +1

    So SLOOOOOOOW posting the last few days…

    • nocure on 15/02/2018 - 16:11
      +2

      That's a shame…

      • jv on 15/02/2018 - 16:23
        +2

        I've had to put in overtime…

  • petestrash on 16/02/2018 - 11:52

    Could you change the behavior of the search box on the menu bar, so that after the search term is entered pressing enter starts the search, rather than having to click the magnifying glass? Also just some feedback, I like the new endless page layout for the new deals page. will this be implemented on the forums and deals pages also?

    • Moderatorscotty on 16/02/2018 - 11:53

      Sometimes there's a conflicts with the quick search drop down. Press Enter again if the search did not start. Or it could just be general slowness (database server performance issue over the last 2 weeks and is getting worse).

      • petestrash on 16/02/2018 - 14:57

        Thanks pressing enter twice works. Seems like it's needed even if you press enter before the quick search comes up.

  • altomic on 18/02/2018 - 14:06
    +4

    the number of Forum posts asking for assistance in finding the perfect internet provider or car or laptop, etc ,that provide no information regarding the requirement for those items, seems to be increasing.

    could there be a "pre-posting" information page and a "Freeze"/report function for new Forum posts.

    "pre-posting" information page - just like the pop-up window for 'this looks like a duplicate" might ask (picking up on the post being a request for an IP, moible, car or what ever) will prompt the OP with a message saying something like "have you provided enough detail for your post" and then with the system (picking up on what the poster is requiring) then prompts the OP with some of the prompts/ideas as the post freezing report -see below.

    Freeze function - like the button report , once the post is posted then users can ask the OP to provide further information about what they are seeking.

    E.g. OP posts - "I need internet" and provides no other details (even though prompted by the pre-post info request).

    this function will render the post "frozen" - the title can be seen in the list of forum posts and is greyed but can't be opened- and tagged with "frozen- awaiting further information" - like how deleted posts currently appear.

    A user can report/freeze the post and request further information such as e.g. 'I need a IP"; reporter - fixed line or wireless, is NBN available or not, if fixed then suburb, what searches the OP has done to determine providers available, what sort of data requirements - i.e. speed and data limits e.g. streaming, downloading, light usage, etc

    or with a car - "I need a car"

    A user can report/freeze the post and request further information such as - new or used, budget, seating, size, usage requirements

    or "I need a mobile" - local bought or OS, budget, screen size, phone requirements (NFC, LED notification), long battery life, etc.

    etc

    this will assist in posters helping other users to help them

    it will also weed out seagull posters and reduce the number of useless posts.

    I'd rather have informed and better quality "I need a ______" which outline the OPs requirements, and thus encourages fruitful discussion/suggestions, than the pointless posts which appear to becoming more and more prevalent.

    • payton on 18/02/2018 - 16:36

      Laziness is the blight of the age, it shouldn't be encouraged.
      could just dump all those threads into 'Find Me a Bargain' forum and not anywhere else, people with too much free time (or spruikers) can help if they want

      your idea is still way better tho

  • altomic on 22/02/2018 - 12:05

    there is the functionality to hide deals from a user or of a certain company or targeted or NSFW.

    could the same functionality be made to hide forums posts from a particular user as well?

    • Moderatorscotty on 22/02/2018 - 13:46

      Do you mean that the same "Hide post from …" should also apply to Forum posts? We should get that fixed.

      • altomic on 22/02/2018 - 13:55

        doesn't apply to forum posts.

        cheers

  • twocsies on 23/02/2018 - 00:26
    +1

    On the main page, when I click on a deal, it takes me to that page. After that I need to navigate back to the main page. I think that I would prefer an option to open the deal in a new tab/window. Yes, I know that there is already an option that sounds like that, but actually it only vauses off-site navigation to be done in a new tab/window, not the actual ozbargain deal page.

    Desired use case: I can open up Ozbargain deal pages in a new tab while keeping the main page. And without needing to right click (computer) or long press the link (mobile) to select open in new tab. Even more efficient would be the chance to open all the interesting deals in background tabs without leaving the main page. Out of twenty deals, I'd probably only open two or three, then once they are all open, read them.

    I'd think that it would also reduce your server load. Why are we reloading the main page every single time that we are done checking out a new deal?

    • Quantumcat on 27/02/2018 - 10:25

      Yes this! I always try to remember to deliberately open links in anew tab, and when I forget it is annoying trying to remember which tab was originally ozbargain and click Back to go back to it

  • Normie on 25/02/2018 - 00:51
    -1

    Wondering if we could be able to add coupon codes for example for pizzas and hotels without submitting a deal. Sometimes a coupon code for a pizza and or hotel is not really worth submitting a deal for but could be helpful for someone looking for a coupon to purchase a pizza or hotel room.

  • Normie on 25/02/2018 - 01:22
    -5

    Flight deals from https://www.ozbargain.com.au/deals/iwantthatflight.com.au should be banned is my preference as they are making money from affiliate networks and encouraging people to buy cheap flights they wouldn't have brought normally. Sure they give you deals of cheap flights but dont tell you about the layovers so you waste time looking at the flights which have a really inconvenient schedules and layovers. If they are not banned they really need to be more upfront in the layerovers and schedules and if you a booking direct or with some random travel company no one has heard of.

    • tightarse on 25/02/2018 - 12:44
      +6

      IWTF is nothing more than an airfare aggregator. They're not a store, they're not a reseller, they're not an Online Travel Agency (OTA). Click on the flights after you've searched and you'll see the metal type, flight times, layover times, prices etc. You get to choose the OTA seller of your choice to pay for the ticket. All the information is there at your fingertips so you can make an informed decision. If you believe that presenting you with facts is 'encouraging' sales, then good on them. Your comment above unfortunately has no merit and makes no sense whatsoever.

      • Normie on 07/03/2018 - 23:07
        -1

        My point is their should not be aggregator deals, the final site should be in the deal. "Your comment above unfortunately has no merit and makes no sense whatsoever" thats your opinion this thread is for site feedback not feedback on comments in my opinion tightarse you have no respect for people with a opinion.
        "

        • tightarse on 07/03/2018 - 23:11
          +2

          My point is their should not be aggregator deals

          That’s not what you said in your original comment. You specifically singled out IWTF. There are many aggregator deals posted every day on OzB.

        • Normie on 07/03/2018 - 23:17
          -3

          @tightarse:
          Goodby not interested in arguing.

        • sky blu on 16/03/2018 - 01:15
          +1

          @Normie: Certainly not when you can't win.

        • Moderatorneil on 18/03/2018 - 23:23

          Sorry for the delay in responding.

          For almost all other deals, we ask to link directly to the store. However, flights are different as aggregators like IWantThatFlight, Skyscanner, Momondo, Google Flights can display a whole bunch of cheap flights and each cheap flight may point to a different site selling the tickets. Often linking directly to the airlines site will result in a higher price than what third party sites like Expedia, BYOJet etc will get.

          My point is their should not be aggregator deals, the final site should be in the deal. "

          In many cases, each destination and sometimes the same destinations have different 3rd party sites. Sometimes the cheapest site hours later will be another site. This is partly to do with currency fluctuations.

  • PVA on 25/02/2018 - 14:38
    +1

    Are you able to have an icon against the original posters name in the comments, say like a green dot, so we can see the original post makers comment when they are answering.
    Kind of how Reddit does.
    It would be good to see when the OP is replying or if it's just some other member.

    • doweyy on 25/02/2018 - 15:15
      +4

      You can already see that with the grey highlight over the comments from the OP? And it’s blue if you’re the OP commenting.

  • Quantumcat on 27/02/2018 - 10:29

    When you've made a comment or edited a comment and you press Back you go back to the text entry screen. Can you make it skip this. If you have edited your post multiple times it goes through the text entry screen multiple times too.

    Not sure if this is just mobile, rarely use desktop.

    And would there be any chance of getting a button to skip to the next new comment on mobile too? Such a handy feature!

    • Quantumcat on 09/05/2018 - 13:28

      I noticed we can now skip to next new post on mobile. THANK YOU! :-)

  • [Deactivated] on 28/02/2018 - 15:14
    +4

    Increase the amount of Participants allowed in PM's? 10's never enough for broden. Thanks Scott.

    • Wystri Warrick on 28/02/2018 - 18:26
      +3

      Hi there BrodenIt, yeah I think this would be an excellent idea especially if some people are organising a group buy or something.

  • Wystri Warrick on 05/03/2018 - 00:22
    +1

    In the 'My account' the 'comments' section where it's shown how many votes your comment got, is it possible to be able to click the votes to see who up voted you, this would save a lot of time instead of opening the page and searching for your comments and then seeing who up voted.
    This would make keeping track of my lovers so much easier…

  • Scab on 07/03/2018 - 13:58
    +1

    Just wondering, if I load a lot of pages at once Ozbargain brings up the "under maintenance" page.

    Then if I reload that page again on its own it always works, is there some sort of timeout limit (my internet is pretty crappy, only 6Mbps)?

    Not really an issue for me, just curious.

    • Moderatorscotty on 07/03/2018 - 16:07

      It's actually a per-IP address request limiter on the web server. If there are too many requests per second coming from a particular IP address, subsequent requests will return with 503 error (under maintenance page).

      • Scab on 07/03/2018 - 16:09
        +2

        That makes sense, thanks Scotty.

  • BlazinPast on 10/03/2018 - 11:16

    Can there be a feature to show the comments of people who neg deals? I was looking at this deal and wanted a quick way to sift through the negative votes so I could see the opposing arguments for the deal.

    • IceCreamBandit on 10/03/2018 - 11:21
      +4

      That feature already exists!

      At the bottom of the page where you can see 'Mark All Read/Top Comments' etc, you have option to select 'Neg Voters' then use the arrows to find comments of people who negged the deal.

      The default option is set to 'New' to find you find new comments.

      Have a look here

      • BlazinPast on 10/03/2018 - 11:25

        Awesome. It's not perfect, but good enough. It only works for a single page. It would be annoying if it the deal had multiple pages of comments. Wish it would work in the 'view all' mode.

        • Moderatorscotty on 10/03/2018 - 21:20

          It should work in multi-page view. If the next neg-voted comment is not in the current page it would just load the next page.

        • BlazinPast on 12/03/2018 - 11:39
          +1

          @scotty: Oh, you're right. It's all good then

  • 87percent on 11/03/2018 - 05:04

    I think to stop all these forum posts like "OMG, OfficeWorks sent me an empty box" or "Optus sent me 4 phones, what do i do", or "i got smashed, i dont have insurance", there needs to be either a timelimit between creating your account and creating a forum post OR you need to actively participate on the forum (or the deals section)

  • Scrooge McDuck on 12/03/2018 - 14:22
    +3

    Please place more space between the bounding box of the store association checkbox and the Preview and Post buttons on the mobile site. This will ease the frustrations of big fingered users.

  • doweyy on 13/03/2018 - 14:22
    +4

    With the recent arrival of Amazon and heaps of deals inbound, can there please be a system whereby sellers are rated similar to eBay and have restrictions on posting?

    It is clear from the Sports 2018 debacle that 3rd party sellers can just join without significant approval by Amazon.

    Whether it be only Amazon AU products allowed on the site or high rated sellers we know about, I think a change really needs to happen before users start getting scammed.

    • Moderatorhamza23 on 14/03/2018 - 15:18

      A guideline for third party Amazon AU sellers is in place now. See announcement for details.

      Thanks for the suggestion

      Edit: Fixed link

  • payton on 15/03/2018 - 11:59
    +2

    24 hour limit on positive comment votes, :D
    Too many 'popular comment' badges being handed out lately?

    • sss333 on 15/03/2018 - 16:15
      +4

      Really don't like limit, much more annoying than the neg vote cap.

      • PJC on 15/03/2018 - 23:46
        +6

        Your comment is appreciated but not upvoted due to restrictions.

    • Moderatorneil on 16/03/2018 - 00:39

      We are experiencing brigading of comments and in some cases sockpuppeted deals. Similar to what Reddit & Twitter experience (well except not Russia). While our systems can sometimes flag these issues, we don't yet have a sophisticated solution in place. As an initial countermeasure, we have created a positive vote cap.

      • sky blu on 16/03/2018 - 01:21
        +5

        The policies on OzBargain were implemented based on user feedback.

        Do the policies continue to change according to user feedback? Where can I start a petition to have the positive vote cap removed? I am sure a lot of users are disliking this newly unannounced change.

        • PJC on 16/03/2018 - 01:37
          +1

          Fortunately I am now at liberty to spare your comment an upvote. Otherwise, if I had employed a legible alternative, it is my experience that would have been labelled 'trolling'.

        • Moderatorneil on 16/03/2018 - 01:50

          Do the policies continue to change according to user feedback?

          Yes, user feedback and actions. For example, referrals went through numerous iterations from being able to have a referral link in deals, to limitations of how many, to an automated referral system which through trial and error, we've established a referral system + guidelines that is almost free of conflict. Like referrals (and life!), it's the actions of a very small amount of people that initiate us creating change both technically and through guidelines.

          We will always fight to keep this community as honest and trustworthy as possible. Feedback is of course welcome.

    • PJC on 16/03/2018 - 02:25
      +2

      My previous comment was not a duplicate. It legibly substituted an upvote I could not afford a different Member's comment.

  • Quantumcat on 16/03/2018 - 13:56
    +4

    Why is there a positive vote limit? Just hit it for the first time. I feel like I'm being told I am reading too many forum posts or using ozb too much. Alright then - I'll be a less active member if that's what the site wants??
    I mean I understand the limits of negs (or else people could just go around voting neg on every comment they don't agree with) but a limit on positives???

    • Moderatorneil on 16/03/2018 - 14:08

      See here.

      • Quantumcat on 16/03/2018 - 14:45
        +3

        Oops - that will teach me to actually read some previous comments before commenting! I thought maybe I was just extra active the last 24 hours compared to previously and hasn't voted enough to hit the limit.
        I don't see how it would help with brigading, since surely those guys would be creating new accounts to vote positively with. The vote limit would only help mean they can't vote on too many deals, whatever the limit is for a new account. Even if it was 1 it wouldn't help much because wouldn't they be likely to be targeting only 1 deal, and a limit of 1 would be annoying for a genuine new user.
        Edit: actually I can see that a limit of 0 on new users for say the first week would be useful, so creating new accounts wouldn't be too helpful for sockpuppeting votes. But - why have a limit on established users? All it is doing is making sure that a user account created 2 years ago or whatever can't sockpuppet votes on more than 38 deals :-/ The site is already very good at detecting sockpuppet accounts so I wonder why you can't keep using the same effective technology to detect fraudulent votes, too?

        • Moderatorscotty on 16/03/2018 - 14:57

          Ghost accounts (additional accounts from the same individual) are not allowed on OzBargain so if we detected new accounts being created, they'll be banned. They actually have to agree / confirm that they "… have never signed up with a different username in the past" on the sign up form.

        • Quantumcat on 16/03/2018 - 15:26
          +1

          @scotty: what's the way that positive voting limits help protect against fraudulent voting? Is there something I'm missing (since it sounds like it should be hard for people to create multiple accounts to vote with)

        • Moderatorscotty on 16/03/2018 - 15:43

          @Quantumcat: neil has a bit of explanation in his comment. Ghost accounts are banned, but not existing accounts that are used to promote brands, products and in some instances, some particular individual's view point. We have analysed voting patterns and deducted that there might be groups of users who reciprocally vote on each other's comments regardless of the content.

          The point is — +1 votes have value and we want our users to value that. Number of votes a comment gets is also a useful metrics (for moderators, and sometimes for users to brag about). To counter "over-voting" or inappropriate voting, we could

          • Automatically discount the value of votes when we detected misbehaviour. We can also hide the number of votes so the community cares less about it (like in some subreddits). It's more difficult to implement and removing visibility of votes is affecting every user.

          • Limit number of +1 votes someone can cast. It puts the responsibility back to the voter to think before voting. It's relatively easy to implement, still not ideal (as we are experimenting it).

          The reason we are doing all these is trying to make a site that's fair and useful for the majority of users.

        • 17833 on 16/03/2018 - 15:50
          +1

          @scotty: Out of interest, there seems to be different voting limits, albeit a small difference, between users. e.g I have a limit of 22, whereas PJC reported a limit of 28. Why is this?

        • Moderatorscotty on 16/03/2018 - 16:08

          @17833: One's limit is base + contribution, which is calculated from the amount of commenting you've done in the previous 24 hours.

        • WatchNerd on 16/03/2018 - 17:28
          +8

          @scotty:

          Member's who spend a lots of time on this website & post lots of deals eventually find other like minded member's. Some have a similar sense of humour, interests or respect for others, it's just a natural progression. When I see those members being unfairly treated or I like their comment then I will upvote, isn't that what it's for?

          Besides it seems strange that you would crack down on a positive aspect of this website when you have never done anything about all the negs certain members receive regardless of what they say. Most likely negged by the same members every time.

          Do you have any examples of this so called brigading please?

          Make Ozbargain great again.

        • 0p on 16/03/2018 - 19:13
          +5

          That seem like an incredibly inefficient way to calculate how many +votes a user can make. I would suggest you to use a combination of user account age with contribution?

          Something similar to Reddit's karma system-

          This video clearly explains the workings of this method.

        • PJC on 16/03/2018 - 19:19
          +4

          @17833: My limit decreased each time I attempted an upvote, reaching 26. It never occurred to me to note what time I upvoted 26 or 27 or 28 times earlier.

        • Moderatorscotty on 17/03/2018 - 10:01

          @WatchNerd: What you saw as "positive aspect" of the website is actually seen as something negative on the effect to the community as a whole, as dominant organised group can promote / demote comments at will. At the end it still comes down to the 2 approaches I've mentioned in previous comment,

          • Make votes less valuable & less visible,
          • Make votes more scarce

          The same applies to flocked neg votes — mods are in constant discussions on these and we are far from "never done anything". We certainly want to make OzBargain great — for the majority not selected few.

        • WatchNerd on 17/03/2018 - 11:07
          +6

          @scotty:

          I can't see how the new 24hr restriction on upvotes has an impact on groups anyway, can't they just come back & upvote the next day? It doesn't make sense.

          From my nearly 7 years experience on here, commments that are made to spread misinformation never win out, the community always see through it & will beat down any group voting.

        • PJC on 17/03/2018 - 12:07
          +4

          @scotty: Sometimes I am at the receiving end.

          Example 1: 22 y.o, have a graduate job and saved up $10K. What should I be doing with my money?
          Being older than OP, I offered this nugget of wisdom …

          Pay off your HECS-HELP debt as soon as you can. It really is uplifting to say "I owe nobody a dollar". Then your savings will be truly yours because you have no debts.

          … which received 36 downvotes with a net total -31. It didn't have a negative effect on the community. The sky was still up there. I disagree with how they voted, but I defend their right to vote freely.

          Example 2: Sunglass Hut Friends & Family: 30% off Full Priced Sunglasses or 40% off 2 or More Pairs of Full Priced Sunglasses

          The Ray-Ban Large Aviators I bought from Sunglass Hut in 1999 showed a price in their window. I supposed other Members may prefer seeing low prices so I commented …

          We like to see prices. Bargains have prices.

          … for 46 downvotes and a net total -41. The lazy Rep wanted me to visit his website without even providing a link! So I replied …

          We come here for bargains. Not to a website for which as Associated OP you have not provided a link.

          … receiving 47 downvotes and a net total -45. It seemed relevant to inform OP …

          At OzBargain the description area resembles a shop window. Invest 3 minutes adding 4+ example bargains with direct links and obviously prices to maximise Members' interest …

          … because assisting shoppers should increase his sales. If he didn't want to achieve that, why did he post here? As before, what made thorough sense to myself garnered 47 downvotes and a net total -43. A casual observer would say I got slaughtered. It didn't have a negative effect on the community. The sky was still up there. I disagree with how they voted, but I defend their right to vote freely.

          In both examples, the voting was freedom of expression, and that would be equally true if they had been upvotes. Restricting voting freedom does not improve OzBargain.

        • sky blu on 17/03/2018 - 12:08
          +3

          @WatchNerd: This is true.

          Run an Ozbargain "referendum" and let users vote on the positive vote cap policy, I am sure the number of against votes would far exceed the number of the "selected few" of the so-called dominant organised group.

        • sky blu on 17/03/2018 - 12:37
          +3

          @PJC: Thank you for taking the time and providing examples of the brigading effect. It goes to show that even comments in the best interest of the post/OP still get that kind of reaction.

          I hope mods can prevent this kind of moronic votes on comments from respected and frequent members who take their time to comment with the sole intention to improve the quality of deal posts and better the Ozbargain community as a whole.

          With the right policies implemented, Ozbargain will continue to have existing members who fully understand Ozbargain guidelines to offer this kind of gratuitous assistance, and attract new members who eventually will find like-minded others.

          Birds of the same feather flock together - in a way, the moderators and "selected few" enthused members (of the 198,834 users total) are part of a dominant organised group.

    • sss333 on 16/03/2018 - 16:57
      +6

      I feel like I'm being told I am reading too many forum posts or using ozb too much.

      Hard to read the forum now with no plus votes available.

      • Quantumcat on 16/03/2018 - 21:58
        +9

        Yeah, any post I read where my opinion aligns with someone else's and I have nothing new to add I just upvote the comments I like, or are very helpful to OP, or I agree with etc. In this way I feel at peace that I've made my little contribution without the need to comment. But with that taken away it feels… slightly uncomfortable. I predict there will start being lots of comments with just "+" as the content.

        What should it matter if there are people who just upvote any comment made by their friends - unless they have hundreds of friends it shouldn't make a difference against the tide that is the thousands of Ozb members. Unless people make ghost accounts then each upvote still corresponds with one flesh and blood person. Cliques and such are just something that arises in human society, Ozb staff should simply be proud that Ozb is emerging as its own little society microcosm with all the interesting dynamics that comes with it.

        • PJC on 16/03/2018 - 22:03
          +6

          Well said.

        • Moderatorneil on 17/03/2018 - 00:16

          What should it matter if there are people who just upvote any comment made by their friends - unless they have hundreds of friends it shouldn't make a difference against the tide that is the thousands of Ozb members.

          If it was just friends upvoting friends, we wouldn't be spending time, money and resources on this issue. There are a number of reasons for brigading as evidenced on various other sites. Some are just to create divisions between members or between members and authorities. In some cases, it's done for money or sockpuppeting. In some cases, it's to positive up reviews on products, or downvote negative reviews to certain products (hailcorporate).

          While we can certainly could show evidence of some the above scenarios (you don't have to look far), including payments, stores involved and users voting up/down each other's deals/comments, we are more interesting in preventing further brigading in the future.

          For the stats nerds, our estimation is vote limits are affecting about 20 or so out of the 20,923 members logged in within the past 24 hours (198,834 users total). Will be able to give more accurate numbers next week.

        • sky blu on 17/03/2018 - 09:25
          +5

          @neil: Run an Ozbargain "referendum" and let users vote on the positive vote cap, I am sure the number of against votes would far exceed your current stats of 20 or so affected members.

        • Quantumcat on 17/03/2018 - 10:15
          +5

          @sky blu: the problem is though that general members can't see all the behind the scenes stuff, so we don't have all the information to make an informed vote. My gut tells me it shouldn't make a difference, but we should probably trust the people with the information (though these are the same people that insisted on infinite scrolling…)

        • sky blu on 17/03/2018 - 10:25
          +2

          @Quantumcat: Already upvoted but I + with a comment, just in case.

  • payton on 22/03/2018 - 04:59

    aww, why was this closed?
    the OP's avatar must have absolutely resembles the face he had when he opened the packages from AliExpress
    xD

  • Ughhh on 24/03/2018 - 13:16

    Was there a way to subscribe to a particular product? Eg. I want to get a notification when a Xiaomi Human sensor deal is posted.

    • Moderatorneil on 26/03/2018 - 01:17

      No, often deals aren't tagged with the product or end up getting tagged hours/days later.

      Best bet would be a search alert.

  • Quantumcat on 04/04/2018 - 20:15

    The little button that appears after you have scrolled a few pages that says "scrolling sucks, gimme pagination" is awesome. Whoever thought of adding that is very clever.

  • JuryWheel on 09/04/2018 - 09:30
    +1

    Is there any way to go to the next unread ‘new’ comment on a deal/thread on mobile like you can on desktop?there doesn’t seem to be an option…

    • Moderatorscotty on 09/04/2018 - 10:57

      The redesign that "comment bar" has been on my agenda for a while already to provide more functionality. Coming "soon" hopefully.

  • twocsies on 10/04/2018 - 16:46
    +1

    In reference to a recent deal (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/371544#comment-5830196), the term "Associated" seems to have different meanings in the Wiki from on the site. At least one line in the Wiki seems to define associated (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/wiki/help:store_representative#…):

    Associated - you are associated with someone who works there or owns the business (friend, family member etc)

    However, in practice it appears that "associated" really means what @Hamza23 said:

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/371544#comment-5830196 As per our comment box:
    Store Association
    You have just indicated that you are associated or work for this store
    So associated can mean either, it doesn't necessarily mean they are only friends/family, but at the same time it doesn't mean they are doing anything wrong being associated and working at the store. That doesn't mean they are sockpuppeting.

    I suggest that an easy way to fix this is to change three lines in the wiki, from "representative" to "associated" and change the name of "associated" in the Wiki to be "Friends/Family".

    Current (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/wiki/help:store_representative#…)

    Who is a representative?
    If you have any of these relationships with a store, you should be tagged as a representative.
    Associated - you are associated with someone who works there or owns the business (friend, family member etc)

    Simply change it to:

    Who is associated?
    If you have any of these relationships with a store, you should be tagged as associated.
    Friends/Family - you are associated with someone who works there or owns the business (friend, family member etc)

    • Moderatorhamza23 on 10/04/2018 - 18:34

      Thanks for the suggestion, I've discussed with other moderators and they also agree those guidelines give the false impression that associated means they are only friends/family and that they don't match what is stated next to the associated checkbox, which is the wording most users are reading (and nothing further). In reality we just want users to declare their association either way and specifying the type of association being optional and nothing something most are going to do.

      I've also added an additional paragraph to explain how to change your association type and clarify associated is the default tag.

      Thanks again.

  • Quantumcat on 17/04/2018 - 21:20
    +1

    For the mobile site, I know there's not enough room to have the green plus and red neg boxes next to comments to show if you already voted, but what about changing the background colour of the little drop down box with the arrow on it (that you would tap and it then tells you if you already voted), to green or red?

  • Zachary on 18/04/2018 - 00:54
    +1

    Please fix: https://files.ozbargain.com.au/f/53/58153.jpg

  • Detective Pikachu on 20/04/2018 - 05:30

    "I bought it", "I got it" or similar with stats.

    • Detective Pikachu on 20/04/2018 - 06:42

      button* (Also maybe updated button with "works" or "I received it")

  • [Deactivated] on 27/04/2018 - 01:46
    +1

    This may have been mentioned before, so sorry if I'm repeating the same request. When 'Targeted' deals expire, there is no longer a blue targeted tag/icon in the title.

    E.g.
    - My recent post
    - Targeted sitewide eBay post

    I understand that this may be due to the limited space in the title for both 'Expired/Sold Out' and 'Targeted' tags to appear concurrently, but is it possible for you to change the 'Expired/Sold Out' tag to blue for targeted deals? It may help those making a decision to purchase something when looking at previous deals and comparing prices (e.g. was it available to everyone or a select group of people).

    And yes, the colour blue may not necessarily represent that the deal was targeted or it may even confuse others with existing targeted deals, so any other colour can also be used. Imo it's better than keeping the expired/sold out tag the same colour as the 'normal' deals.

  • jdogg on 30/04/2018 - 12:31

    Can you add an event so you are notified by email when a new deal gets a lot of upvotes after it's posted (for example 100 upvotes in the first 30 mins) So that way we don't miss out on the really good deals? I see there's an option for this when a new deal makes the front page but would be good for another option to be notified when a great deal is posted too.

    • Moderatorscotty on 30/04/2018 - 12:51

      Front page deals are already what the community has voted up as "great deals"? I guess your issue is that there are too many front page deals thus too many such email notifications throughout the day, so you want a "really great deal" event to be notified as well?

      • jdogg on 30/04/2018 - 13:00

        Yes exactly

  • Chthonic on 01/05/2018 - 07:57
    +2

    I don't have the time to read through all of this at work, but would it be possible to introduce some form of 'user based feedback' on the classifieds?

    What I mean is, if person A and person B complete a remote transaction they can rate the other person out of 5 stars and that would be their "classifieds rating" which would provide a sense of trust etc.

    Ontop of that, if the user has a high rating perhaps they could be entitled to post maybe a few more than just two listings per week

  • sween64 on 01/05/2018 - 10:11

    My UI has changed. I now have to tap twice to mark comments as read. I don't like the change.

    • Moderatorscotty on 01/05/2018 - 10:19

      … but we get enough room to show comment navigation on mobile, a feature that's often requested. Damn, can't please everyone.

      • sween64 on 01/05/2018 - 10:52

        The top button? That's redundant at least on iOS you can tap the status bar to scroll to the top.

        • Moderatorscotty on 01/05/2018 - 10:55

          Next / Prev navigation buttons for New comments, OP's comments, Rep comments, etc.

          Anyway, comment related functions will be consolidated into the menu from now on and we won't put everything back to the bar.

        • Scab on 01/05/2018 - 12:38
          +1

          @scotty:

          Can you please put a bar on the main page?

          When pages auto load there's no easy way to go back to the top.

          Not as bad on PC but sucks on smartphone.

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