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AssociatedCalmago @ Australian Computer Traders on 11/01/2018 - 16:38 ebay.com.au (4550 clicks)
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Hi Guys

We are just clearing out some excess stock. I've just dropped the price down to its lowest possible level and also to take advantage of the 5% off promotion as well.

Great cheap office/home machine, as discussed many times and a 1050ti and you've got yourself a budget gaming PC.

These machines also have space for a second 3.5" HDD under the optical drive.

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HP Elite 8200
Core i7 2600 3.4GHz (4C/8T)
8GB RAM
500GB HDD
They have 7 Pro COA's but they are imaged with Windows 10 Pro.

About 70 Units Available.

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  • otter-raptor on 11/01/2018 - 16:56
    -6

    CPU Launch Date Q1'11

    When you say refurbished, is it Used , if so a 6-7 year OLD PC that was used in my work long back

    • vovka on 11/01/2018 - 17:46
      +12

      It doesn't matter if it's an "OLD PC". It will still run Windows 10 Pro in office application just as good as a brand new PC.

      • AustriaBargain on 11/01/2018 - 18:49
        +2

        And if it comes with genuine Windows 10 then it's a pretty convenient package for $200. I bet it'll play Minecraft and HD video.

        • vovka on 11/01/2018 - 20:03

          Windows 10 can be installed using a key from 7,8,8.1 and I believe Microsoft doesn't care about people doing it.

        • ColonialBoy on 11/01/2018 - 21:53

          It only has a vga port.

          These older desktop machines can run a graphics card, however they do not have headers from the power supply that new cards need. An older card like an EVGA GTX 750 will work fine & you can pick then up on ebay. This will give you HDMI and the ability to play a wide range of games.

        • Chewiebacca on 12/01/2018 - 10:37

          @ColonialBoy:

          Most 1050ti’s, which they’ve also recommended, do not require additional power from the PSU and run directly from the motherboards PCIE lane.

    • Seisei on 11/01/2018 - 17:52
      +27

      Sandy Bridge, one of the best generation Intel CPUs. CPUs after this generation haven't improved much significantly in terms of performance. I'm still rocking a i5 2500K which is a step below this one and it's still does well with whatever I throw at it.

      • dogboy on 11/01/2018 - 18:22
        +7

        Yep, not wrong. The 2600k processor was awesome.

        • Cartman2530 on 11/01/2018 - 18:34
          +5

          Agreed, my 2600k still works with everything fine, albeit overclocked to 4.2GHz.
          Best money I ever spent on a CPU.

        • lordezekiel on 11/01/2018 - 18:53
          +1

          @Cartman2530:
          Yep another very happy 2500k then 2600k owner here, these things still rock!

        • EVA-01 on 11/01/2018 - 19:19
          +2

          +1 that! Still rocking my 2600k!

        • Punkboy on 11/01/2018 - 20:04

          Yep and heats the room as well ;-)

        • frostman on 11/01/2018 - 21:15

          @lordezekiel: Got an i5 2500K here too…OCd to 4.5Gz @ 70C load

        • AMLagonda on 12/01/2018 - 00:08

          2600k here, clocked @ 4.5Ghz

        • Cartman2530 on 13/01/2018 - 18:25

          @AMLagonda: Is that at stock voltage? 4.2Ghz was as fast as I could get without error.

        • AMLagonda on 13/01/2018 - 20:27

          @Cartman2530:
          I will have to have a look and get back to you.

      • nomoneynoproblems on 11/01/2018 - 19:20
        +1

        2500k crew checking in, although 8th gen Intel tempted me to go over.

      • bchliu on 11/01/2018 - 19:21

        Just letting everyone know. With the recent Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities, the most impacted is the older CPUs with up to 30% impact (basically sounds like they are almost turning off the cache). So these will basically be even worse for performance after the patches hit.

        • bargaino on 11/01/2018 - 20:29
          +2

          You are severely overstating it.

        • MrSammyMcG on 11/01/2018 - 21:45
          +1

          @manic: yeah and its highly workload dependent as Intel have stated. Also personally I don't see this as a significant issue until exploits are in the wild; for now its just a precaution thing.

      • SaberX on 12/01/2018 - 00:52

        is sandy bridge 2nd gen ? so 3rd gen and onwards it changed? Sorry just don't know my computing, but i know 7th gen is up to 8th gen now which is supposedly a noticeable change from 7th gen? Or is one still ok getting a 7th gen cheaper laptop than a more expensive 8th gen priced?

    • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2018 - 17:53
      +9

      Honestly CPU tech hasn't improved that much since 2nd Gen Intel Core CPUs until only recently, this thing is still a beast. Very upgradeable, just chuck in more RAM and a SSD. The only criticism is that it's a small case and power supply so it would be hard to add a decent Graphics Card, but if you're not gaming it's great.

      • FabMan on 11/01/2018 - 18:15
        +6

        1050Ti Low Profile is the most powerful GPU that can be used.

        • Charity on 11/01/2018 - 20:15

          why is that? are talking about this particular computer or the Sandy Bridge series in general?

        • FabMan on 11/01/2018 - 20:23
          +4

          @Charity: Low profile case, meaning you can only use low profile cards (half height) fastest low profile card available is a 1050Ti

        • MrSammyMcG on 11/01/2018 - 21:48
          +2

          And they're a great price too. Around the $150- $200 mark depending on if you go with a ti or the base model I believe.

    • Unity55 on 11/01/2018 - 18:01
      +1

      still faster than the new intel c3, if you spend another $50 upgrade the hard drive to SSD this will run pretty smooth

    • otter-raptor on 11/01/2018 - 18:37
      +1

      Well my question was about it being used for potentially 6-7 years not the CPU age.. regardless of CPU awesomeness a 6 year old PC Won't have a long life.. Is it used or refurbished, there's a huge difference

      P.s getting ready for neg army too 😀

    • FabMan on 11/01/2018 - 20:13
      +2

      This CPU can be affected by the Meltdown and Spectre bugs, Intel is not releasing a firmware update for Sandy Bridge or older. As such it appears the system will run slower due to OS updates disabling jardware features.

      Bad time to own older Intel systems.

      Even if you don't think this bug would affect you, Windows update will force their update on you that will slow down older machines due to disabling CPU features on Intel CPU, well apprently from what I can tell. Bug affects any Intel system regardless of OS, Mac and Linux machines affected too.

      Maybe it is time for a new AMD system since I am running an old Intel system.

      • FabMan on 11/01/2018 - 21:32
        +2

        Firmware will be released for systems newer than Sandy Bridge, to protect against Spectre variant 2 while Spectre variant 1 and Meltdown will be software fixes only. These fixes can affect performance up to 20%, it affects older systems more so, like my Haswell. Newer systems should be affected less than 10% in performance.

  • Dune on 11/01/2018 - 16:58

    Calmago, just wondering. With this particular case, the 1050ti video card needs to be the low profile version? Would a regular 1050ti do?

    • bdl on 11/01/2018 - 17:00
      +3

      you will need low profile - see item 2 on page 2 of this PDF: http://www.bbt.si/modules/uploader/uploads/s_product/file/58…

      • Dune on 11/01/2018 - 21:46

        Thank you mate! Now I got to wait for a good discount to come along for the 1050ti card.

        • bdl on 11/01/2018 - 22:57

          I got one from MSY for pretty cheap to go with my refurb SFF Dell Optiplex 9010 and it goes well :)

  • rattle on 11/01/2018 - 17:08

    Very keen to get something for the younger kids, but not too good with the knowledge of PC's.
    Pretty sure I understand that a low profile graphics card would be needed.

    What does the part about Windows 7 and 10 mean please?
    Thanks.

    • smpantsonfire on 11/01/2018 - 17:12
      +5

      It has a licenced Windows 7 stickers, but since then it's been upgraded to windows 10

    • fratzhaus on 11/01/2018 - 17:58
      +3

      If you're not too knowledgeable on the hardware, just know that pairing this with the low profile 1050ti will last you quite a while, and it'd be much cheaper than what many could pull off from the store.
      Highly recommend swapping the hdd to an ssd.

    • jong on 11/01/2018 - 19:32

      The PCs originally came with Windows 7. However, Microsoft offered a free upgrade to Windows 10, so these PCs now have Windows 10 installed on them.

      • SaberX on 12/01/2018 - 00:55

        so if you restore to the hidden partition for recovery would you be able to restore to win 10 or windows 7? So would it restore to windows 7 and come with the Windows 7 license key sticker at th ebottom just like a laptop would? Am abit confused too?

        Also I heard windows 10 was over for upgrades but you could still 'download and upgrade' without limitations, despite the official period ending? Is that true? I have a wind 7 home premium laptop bought in 2011-12, an asus n53sv laptop, am wondering if windows 10 would hog more resources than staying at windows 7 given the age of laptop? core i7 2630qm, 2.0ghz, 8gb ram, 750 gb hdd.

    • dotdotdotAJFA on 11/01/2018 - 17:17
      +6

      COA means Certificate of Authenticity, meaning that the PC was originally provisioned with a Windows 7 Pro OEM license. By imaged, the seller means he/someone has upgraded it to Windows 10 and it will be sold fully licensed for Windows 10 Pro and with Windows 10 Pro installed.

        • dotdotdotAJFA on 11/01/2018 - 17:34
          +3

          How is it not fully licensed? You receive a Digital Entitlement for Windows 10 Pro which can be reinstalled even if you change HDD/SDD etc and will automatically activate.

        • FabMan on 11/01/2018 - 18:16
          -2

          You do not know how licensing works.

        • Geryatric on 11/01/2018 - 18:45
          -4

          @dotdotdotAJFA:
          No you do not have a digital entitlement unless the COA was upgraded under the GWX program prior to 29, 2016. Source: Microsoft.com

        • Geryatric on 11/01/2018 - 18:47
          -1

          @FabMan:
          Perhaps do some reading before commenting;
          https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12435/windows-10-up…

        • FabMan on 11/01/2018 - 18:48
          -2

          @Geryatric: What is it exactly you expect me to read?

          Please do some reading yourself:
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia

          See how vague that is?

        • Geryatric on 11/01/2018 - 18:50

          @FabMan:
          The Microsoft link I provided which describes how the GWX license migration program worked (past tense)

        • FabMan on 11/01/2018 - 18:52

          @Geryatric:

          If you upgrade from a OEM version of Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 to the free Windows 10 upgrade this summer, the license is consumed into it. Because the free upgrade is derived from an OEM base qualifying license, Windows 10 will carry this type of licensing too.

          If you upgrade from a retail version, it carries the rights of a retail version.

          Full version (Retail):

          • Includes transfer rights to another computer.
          • Doesn't require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
          • Expensive

          Upgrade version (Retail):

          • Includes transfer rights to another computer.
          • require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
          • Expensive, but cheaper than full version

          OEM :

          OEM versions of Windows are identical to Full License Retail versions except for the following:

          • OEM versions do not offer any free Microsoft direct support from Microsoft support personnel
          • OEM licenses are tied to the very first computer you install and activate it on
          • OEM versions allow all hardware upgrades except for an upgrade to a different model motherboard
          • OEM versions cannot be used to directly upgrade from an older Windows operating system

          What happens if I change my motherboard?

          This will invalidate the Windows 10 upgrade license because it will no longer have a previous based qualifying license which is required for the free upgrade. You will then have to purchase a full retail Windows 10 license.

        • FabMan on 11/01/2018 - 18:55

          @Geryatric:

          Since they have already upgraded the OS to Windows 7, that license is no longer valid, and a new license was generated for that motherboard to use Windows 10.

          Windows 7 CoA is useless, it is now a Windows 10 licensed machine.

        • Geryatric on 11/01/2018 - 18:55

          @FabMan:
          Exactly what I said. This ended July 29, 2016.

          The OP at no point has provided any indication that machines windows 7 licenses were upgraded prior to July 29, 2016, so any logical person when making a purchasing decision would need to assume they have not been.

          An uninformed person may be factoring in the value of Windows 10 Pro OEM licenses when making a purchasing decision.

          You can still legitimately upgrade under the disability/accessibility scheme, that may be a good option for you.

        • FabMan on 11/01/2018 - 18:58

          @Geryatric: Why not logically assume that there is only 4GB of RAM inside, the CPU has been removed, the PSU is burnt out or the hard drive is faulty?

          Pay through PayPal, if the product doesn't meet the sellers description, ask for a refund. Claiming the license is not valid because we cannot confirm it has one is stupid. Please think your criticisms through Geryatric.

        • Geryatric on 11/01/2018 - 19:01
          +3

          @FabMan:
          The seller chose their words carefully.. if you don't understand more fool you

          They have 7 Pro COA's but they are imaged with Windows 10 Pro

        • FabMan on 11/01/2018 - 19:03
          +1

          @Geryatric: For someone keen on pointing out flaws in other peoples wording, your English sure does suck.

          You may have a point though, shame you can spot things but not explain them clearly.

    • dazweeja on 11/01/2018 - 17:20
      +1

      If they were first imaged with Windows 10 before July 29, 2016, there will be a valid Windows 10 license for that machine based on the Windows 7 license. They may have been re-imaged subsequent to that and the Windows 10 license would still be valid.

      • Geryatric on 11/01/2018 - 17:24

        Yes

      • dotdotdotAJFA on 11/01/2018 - 17:37
        +2

        This is true according to a Microsoft statement, however, reality begs to differ. You can still upgrade any Windows 7/8/8.1 PC to Windows 10 simply by inserting Windows 10 media or running the Media Creation Tool and pressing "Upgrade". Voila, Windows 10 will install and you get a nice message saying that Windows is "Activated". I have done this literally dozens of times over the past 18 months…

        • marquise on 11/01/2018 - 18:02

          Is this also true for Windows 7 Starter? I have an old Eee PC I would like to upgrade.

        • HereYeeHereYee on 11/01/2018 - 18:27
          +1

          @marquise:

          Yup. There should be a direct link you could go to, dl the media tool and Windows 10 will be upgraded.

          (need to use the media tool via your old EEE PC so it could pick up you're on windows 7)

        • Geryatric on 11/01/2018 - 18:49

          Because it activates does not mean its a genuine license (compliant with the licensing agreement). There are loads of $5 keys you can get on eBay aswell.

          I don't care either way, but I do think its misleading to non tech savvy people to put Win 10 Pro in the title.

        • mudguppy1 on 11/01/2018 - 18:55

          @Geryatric: good job keep up the good fight

    • FabMan on 11/01/2018 - 19:06
      +2

      Geryatric hasn't explained themselves clearly, but has a valid point.

      The point is, they are not confirming that the system was upgraded to Windows 10 before the cut off of July 29, 2016, as such, they may not be legitimately valid for a Windows 10 license.

      They only state, valid for Windows 7 license and Windows 10 is installed (or imaged).

      Windows 10 may work perfectly fine for all intents and purposes, just may not have a legitimate license that Microsoft will probably never care to check up on.

      • dotdotdotAJFA on 11/01/2018 - 20:21
        +1

        I understand where he's coming from but, now I'm not a lawyer, but if all you did was click "Upgrade" I don't see how that is the users "fault"… It's comparable to a retail store labeling something as free accidentally and not honoring the customer (which is illegal)…

        Windows 10 is still a free upgrade regardless of what Microsoft said about 29/7/16 or whenever it was. In fact this method of upgrading has been available since the cut-off period and Microsoft have not acknowledged it once, they haven't said "ohhh that's not valid if you do that"… I wonder why?… most likely because they want everyone on Windows 10. In fact, some kid who knew nothing about 29/7/16 could think "hmmm I'm gonna try and upgrade to windows 10 - oh cool it works." Is that the kids fault? Something to think about.

        • FabMan on 11/01/2018 - 20:30

          I reckon that is exactly it.

  • Pulseidon on 11/01/2018 - 17:34

    Would this run games like Overwatch and PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds decently?

    • blonky on 11/01/2018 - 17:39
      +2

      Add a graphics card (ie 1050ti low profile) and you could

      • Pulseidon on 11/01/2018 - 20:36

        Awesome, thanks for the info!

    • junglejgym on 11/01/2018 - 17:39
      +8

      from what ive heard, PUBG is very un optimised, and this will really struggle.

      • liquornoodlescabbage on 11/01/2018 - 17:44
        +1

        PUBG is very un optimised, and this will really struggle.

        It was, but now it's released it seems to run just as well as any other game if not better.

        • misu p on 11/01/2018 - 18:04
          +2

          It is better now but it still looks like shit but at least you can run on something that is not a 1080ti. And when I say shit I mean it competes with 2011 games. It does look better than Minecraft I guess.

          Fun to play though.

      • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2018 - 17:51
        +2

        It's a shitly made game that was put out to make money. It did it's job.

        • liquornoodlescabbage on 11/01/2018 - 18:14

          But it's still the most played game on Steam by miles, take of that what you will.

        • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2018 - 18:17
          -2

          @Spooderman: Yes. It's popular because it's rehashing an already popular game in order to milk cash. I don't see how people can play it, but the fact that it's so poorly put together and expensive for such a simple game is inexcusable to me.

        • FabMan on 11/01/2018 - 18:18
          +1

          Games are typically made not to make money?

        • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2018 - 18:24
          -3

          @FabMan: If a game's only quality is that it was made to milk money extremely fast, it's a shit game.

        • FabMan on 11/01/2018 - 18:26

          @StoneSin: Not my cup of tea, but still very popular.

        • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2018 - 18:51
          +2

          @FabMan: I agree. But from a technical stand point, the game is a mess.

          The concept is great. I just dislike this one company's way of operating.

        • serpserpserp on 11/01/2018 - 19:55
          -1

          @StoneSin:

          I thought PUBG was the first game of this type?

        • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2018 - 22:15

          @serpserpserp: Definitely not. DayZ was the direct predecessor.

    • dotdotdotAJFA on 11/01/2018 - 17:42
      +1

      Yes, throw in a 1050ti Low Profile (I think the MSI one is the best) and away you go. You should probably throw in another 4-8GB of RAM but it is not
      essential… I did this for my brother recently on the exact same PC and it is a great cheap gaming PC. It runs R6 Siege on Ultra but not PUBG as PUBG is poorly optimised (devs suck).

      • Pulseidon on 11/01/2018 - 20:40

        Okay great, thanks heaps for the info! I'm completely new to PC building/modification. Unfortunately I don't have the money for a 1050ti at the moment but definitely good to know that's an option for the future

  • montorola on 11/01/2018 - 17:36

    Does this even run Crysis bruh?

    • AssociatedCalmago @ Australian Computer Traders on 11/01/2018 - 20:39
      +3

      Not with out a GPU. But it will run solitaire at 60 FPS.

  • Kara-Murza on 11/01/2018 - 18:02

    Sorry for the dumb question, but this computer have wifi inbuilt into it? From where I'm planning to put it, plugging in an ethernet cable would be impractical.

    • Unity55 on 11/01/2018 - 18:08
      +1

      https://www.umart.com.au/Edimax-EU-4306-USB-3-0-to-10-100-10… if not you can buy one of this to run ethernet cable

      • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2018 - 18:14
        +1

        OP wants a Wifi dongle not an ethernet dongle. This PC accepts an ethernet cord.

        • Unity55 on 11/01/2018 - 18:18

          Oops maybe he needs one of this https://www.umart.com.au/MSI-HERALD-AC-Intel-AC-8265-WiFi-Ca…

        • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2018 - 18:23

          @Unity55: Yeah except $55 is a waste.

          https://www.umart.com.au/ASUS-PCE-N15-WLAN-PCI-Express-N300-…

        • Agret on 11/01/2018 - 19:15

          @StoneSin: Depends if your access point supports AC or not

        • [Deactivated] on 11/01/2018 - 19:32

          @Agret: What's the difference? I don't think Wifi speeds are fast enough in Aus that the hardware would be a limiting factor, would they?

        • Charity on 11/01/2018 - 20:17

          @StoneSin: correct.

        • Agret on 13/01/2018 - 00:14
          +3

          @StoneSin: wifi speeds are the same worldwide. If you are talking purely internet speed the wifi speed won't be a bottleneck only range would be an issue. For local transfers/streaming there is a big difference though (provided you're close to the access point.)

        • [Deactivated] on 13/01/2018 - 00:24
          -2

          @Agret: Wifi speeds aren't the same worldwide. A machine connected to aus would be very, very lucky to be receiving a 1gbps connection and thus saturating a wifi connection.

        • Agret on 13/01/2018 - 20:29
          +1

          @StoneSin: the wifi connection speed is between your device and the access point it has nothing to do with the speed of your internet connection, these speeds are the same worldwide. I agree that it won't bottleneck from your Australian internet speed but different wifi cards will have different ranges where you will get speed drop off as will different access points. For example on an internet download my phone gets 5MB/s down from Google Play store when it's one room over from my access point even though my desktop can pull in around 9MB/s over ethernet on an internet download. If you want to copy some files from your laptop to your desktop or vice versa over windows file sharing the wifi will also be the bottleneck. If you have a smart TV/android box and want to stream videos stored on your PC then the wifi speed is the bottleneck also.

        • [Deactivated] on 13/01/2018 - 21:00
          -3

          @Agret: Yes. No one installs Wifi in their home to run a local network though.

          You seem to be attacking a nonexistant problem.

          I know everything there is to know about internet and networking speeds.

        • m0tyrider on 13/01/2018 - 23:35

          @StoneSin: So…what happens if you want to transfer a file over you LAN - over wifi. Clearly the having AC over N would be a advantage.

        • mookau on 13/01/2018 - 23:44
          +1

          @StoneSin: Plenty of people run their network over wifi. Renters that aren't allowed to run cables through/under their house. People who primarily use laptops and other mobile devices. People that just flat out hate wires..

          It's far from a non-existent problem. And your claim to know everything about internet and network speeds doesn't help your case. It appears disingenuous, and hurts your argument.

        • [Deactivated] on 13/01/2018 - 23:56
          -2

          @m0tyrider: Yes. No one installs Wifi in their home to run a local network though.

          Please read.

        • [Deactivated] on 13/01/2018 - 23:57
          -2

          @mookau: Plenty of people run their network over wifi.

          Nope. Not local networks.

          It appears disingenuous, and hurts your argument.

          Nope. It only solidifies my stance. Feel free to be wrong.

        • m0tyrider on 15/01/2018 - 00:39
          +1

          @StoneSin: No offence, but you either have no idea what your talking about, or you are not portraying your point across correctly.

          Going to go with the first one.

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