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Thats apple for you.
XS phone, excess price.
0.95*0.9=0.855. So that's 14.5% off.
Good deal if combined with 10% off eBay cards to make it 23% off.What is 0.95?
It shows 5% off from the store.
you must have a pretty bad imagination
I can imagine.
Complains and asks if they can return an item they paid $30 for as it's now on sale for $20.
Happily pays $2,000 for a phone.
I can picture one type.
Buy when early released iPhone here, even better with discount and sell to friends overseas at profit before apple releases the phone there.That's the only thing I can picture, the value proposition for high end iPhones just isn't there at all
Why not? Millions of sales disagree with you. Quality, privacy, environmental considerations, platform, ecosystem, iMessages, AirPlay/AirPods and status symbol are only a few USPs iPhones have. Not to mention really high resale value. To each their own.
@Hybroid: Maybe I just association OzBargain with the more techsavy crowd who usually lean away from Apple imo
@DracoManX69: What would make you think that when there's thousands of Apple posts on here dating back years. Many many many people like Apple products and not everyone wants the cheapest bang for buck Chinese-brand product. If coming here means they can find a deal on an Apple product then that's what the site is for.
@DracoManX69: Most people who don't buy an iPhone only buy other phones based on price, not because they are techsavy.
@smartazz104: I work in a large IT department and more than half of the employees have iPhones. Why wouldn’t they buy the platform with better security, information privacy and greater update support?
And no, we’re not an apple workplace.
@onlinepred: I find that really difficult to believe given how locked down iPhones are, you can't be the same level of power user as you can with an adroid, the software just isn't built for it
@DracoManX69: You are talking about a phone. What are you doing on a phone that is power user? On my iPhone I ssh and RDP into real computers using great software that isn't really rivalled on android. I got all Google apps so no issue there. What is it that you do that you can't on android?
@onlinepred: I used to be a heavy iPhone jailbreak guy before I got an Android phone and the ability to install custom kernels and custom device driver library's like for the camera and audio is the kind of stuff I'm talking about, however now that I'm typing it I think that might be a little extreme for most people
@DracoManX69: But why do you need to do that? I used to do it all the time since 2007 with my first windows phone running android on it. Last few years the phones have been so incredible I don't need to root/rom/flash etc. We already know you can buy a $20 connector to get much better audio quality than a kernel will produce, and you can install GCAM for camera without root. Most phones these days have fantastic cameras anyway.
The only reason you would do this on an android, is because it's either a crap phone you are trying to make better, or because you are doing it out of interest. There is no need for it - and you are talking to people here that are happy to buy a new phone, rather than hacking their phone into kinda working as good.
@onlinepred: I think the way people on here will do things like stack multiple coupons and cashbacks and 5% off egift cards etc etc is the attitude to manipulate and exploit to maximise value from anything and the whole android hacking thing to get better quality and performance out of anything possible is the same attitude
Guess I just associate people who will go out and spend 2k phone that doesn't have (imo) any crazy high end/specialised features and is essentially a fashion accessory are the same people who are happy to pay full retail for stuff without really thinking there's any value in using the right code through the right portal to get 1% off a $50 purchase, like I said just surprises me that regulars of this site would see a value proposition in a 2k phone that has no more features than a $500 phone
@DracoManX69: People here want something, they wait for a deal, then they buy it. Not really hard. People here have money, they aren't poor.
I think it's insane that the same people keep posting on iPhone deals saying the same thing - how expensive they are and "they should only spend $22 on a phone….". Literally insanity. And there is no $500 phone that compares to an iPhone in any way, you literally know nothing about phones it if you think that's true.
@onlinepred: What does an iPhone have that makes it worth 2k that you can't get on cheaper options, like what features make it worth double a high end android device?
Thats where I'm stumped people put iPhones on this pedastal for what I can't see as any decent reason to charge so much?
I always hear the software update argument but you could literally buy a new phone in a year's time and get updated hardware too
@DracoManX69: Well let's see, my wife's old iPhone 6s got nearly every new feature of every new os update each year. She felt no need to upgrade as it got faster each year. The battery was getting very old, so she had it replaced for $99 at apple which took 2 hours to do and came with 2 years warranty on the battery. She dropped it three times during the life of the phone, with apple care the total cost to repair the screen was $450.
Accessory support is insanely good, and also app support. The hardware quality is extremely good, I have a new pixel 3 oh which the buttons are already feeling cheap and loose.
For me, having the support, the quality, and the just works nature of iPhones makes them very worth the price. Especially since I sell my phones after a year or two, and iPhone end up being cheaper if you do this compared to Samsung or Google pixels as apples hold their value. My old iPhone 7s plus cost $1480 new, sold it for $800 3 years later. Meanwhile my note 8 cost $1299, and sold it for $600 a year later lol.
Also Good android phones usually go for more than $1k. Google pixel 3 is starting at $1200 and they have terrible support in Australia and no form of Google care etc.
@onlinepred: I normally shy away from the 'name brand' androids tbh because I think there's no value proposition there either, and the 'just works' attitude is the part that surprises me in all this, you know what else 'just works' buying products at full retail but I figure anyone on here is happy to put in a bit of effort of sacrifice something or whatever to save a buck and I thought that attitude would extended to buying a phone but obviously not
@DracoManX69: That's why we come here, we get the product for cheaper! It's why OZB exists!!!!
I use two phones, one personal and one for work. I need both to be 100% uptime with the best reception I can get. If anything goes wrong I want fast service in store with great customer service. Others don't care about this, and any cheapo phone could make them happy. I was once there and I understand where you are coming from, but people have different priorities, and are willing to spend more money to get better products or better services.
And putting in a bit of effort in your case would void any warranty in Australia that it might have had, and probably had no local warranty either. What phone would you recommend over an iPhone anyway? It better not be a xiaomi or OP btw.
@onlinepred: Thats thing when I used to have an iPhone I had nothing but issues with it and apple service was a nightmare they often just reset the device which did nothing, and nowdays my recommendation would be hwawei/Asus ZenFone range/Xperia, the Xperia especially I've had 3 of them and they've all been a site gems for me
What does an iPhone have that makes it worth 2k that you can't get on cheaper options
Here's a start:-
- Apple's stance on privacy and protecting your data is second to none. NO OTHER manufacturer provides this. Read more here: https://www.apple.com/au/privacy/ - Many people consider these huge value.
- Apple's stance on the environment and reducing impact on planet and going fully sustainable is by far class leading with a few others following but rest are not. Read more here: https://www.apple.com/au/environment/
For the above items alone people are willing to pay more to support this behaviour. But there's more subjective reasons too:-
- Many people prefer the iOS ecosystem and software. It might be simpler and locked down as you say but it works very well and provides most people all they need. A reliable solid platform with great support and apps for anything you need.
- Depends on your social circles but for many iMessage & Facetime support is very important to stay connected. Whatsapp does exist for the rest but not the same when everyone else is using iPhones.
- Quality of the devices is another key point, while some others are similar, iPhones are beautifully made, great to hold and use and people enjoy the premium feel.
- Software updates are far more consistent and supported on iOS than Android. It's available for older phones up to 5 years and all iPhones get the updates at the same time, not having to wait for third party carriers or manufacturers to update their device, if they ever do.
- Security is apparently much better on the iOS platform than Android. I'm not an expert here but it seems to be the case.
- Flawless integration with accessories. Whether it's great things like AirPods or third party speakers or other devices, AppleTV, AirPlay, whatever, it all just works really well on a unified system and there's a huge plethora of support accessories. You seen a Made for iPhone logo on the box and you know it'll work great. iPhones also integrate really well with other Apple devices like iPads and Macs. If you're in the wider ecosystem then features such as handoff are seamless.
- Integration of hardware and software works beautifully, great specs, screen, camera and the usability of the software. There are certainly other devices that are close to this but rarely can they put everything into one impressive package.
- Status symbol - As shallow as it might be, cannot deny there's certainly a status attributed to iPhones than other devices.
- High resale value is a real consideration. While you're spending more on the outset, you also get back a lot more when you sell. So a $2000 device isn't $2000 spent, you'll get $1600 minimum back after a year whereas an Android device would be lucky to get half it's value after a year due to oversupply and quicker updates.
- Finally, support. This is a huge one. You know if anything does go wrong (all electronic devices break down) then Apple's support is second to none. Whether in warranty, with AppleCare or out of warranty, there are options for you to walk into a store or post it to them and get back up and running as quickly as possible. They also provide workshops and other facilities to make the most of it.
Ultimately, it's a personal choice. People pay large amounts for designer clothing just because it has a logo on it. Or expensive cars or jewellery or speaker systems etc. It's a preference. I have no problem paying $2000 for a device that's constantly in use in my hand all day every day, it's worth it for me.
@Hybroid: I'll try address those individually
1: in Australia privacy means nothing because of data retention laws if it went over the internet the government has it
2: have my doubts about the validity of that but whatever I don't think that really makes a difference when consider the value of a given product
Way too locked down imo, plenty of apps I use that you have to download as an apk because Google doesn't allow them I couldn't ever afford to be that locked down
iMessage is the one redeeming feature bit majority of people I know are still just using FB messwnger
Quality…hardly considering how fragile they are
The company got caught out intentionally slowing down devices c'mon
Ehhhh like I said before security means nothing in Aus anyway if it went over the net
I think basing a products value on external products is disingenuous and isn't relevant when considering the product on its own standing
Good for basic users but functionality is just so much more than on Android imo but each to their own
No longer a status symbol if it's the norm
No resale for me always goes to little siblings/cousins
Like I've said above I've had nothing but shocking Apple support on the past
I'm sure there are people out there the device works well for I'm just surprised it's the same people that are on a site like this
- This is incorrect. The American govt (DOJ) themselves are in a battle with Apple due to not being able to have access to iPhones due to encryption and built-in privacy stronger relative to other devices.
Not sure what there is to doubt, they are the forerunners in this space and it is certainly a consideration of the value of a product. More and more people are becoming environmentally conscious due the current state of the planet.
That's a subjective item and fair enough for your use case. Majority of others are not in your boat and have everything they need via AppStore.
- Like I said depends on your social circle. No one I know uses FB messenger and many of us certainly don't want them snooping on our conversations when we could be using encrypted alternatives that work much better.
- That's not how quality is measured. Glass is more fragile than metal by default but the quality of the build itself is better than most plastic alternatives on the market.
- The under-clocking of devices was meant as a protection features for degraded batteries which had good intentions but wasn't implemented properly. Remember what happened to the Note 7 exploding batteries that didn't have this feature. This has since been fixed with a user option if you want it on or off.
- Again this is not correct. Encryption is a real thing which the govt is trying to legislate against but it currently works.
- I don't agree. A product is used within a system and the compatibility and accessories options for it are a major value boost rather than an obscure unsupported product. One of the reasons GoPro's are so popular even though there are many much cheaper copies is the integration of their software and multitude of accessories available for it.
- You like to push the 'basic/power user' rhetoric but most professionals, architects, content producers, photographers, video editors, audio artists, even coders etc do use Apple products. You can deny it all you want but even as someone that doesn't even like Macs, I admit they are the primary device of choice.
- That's not how status symbols work. There needs to be something else to take it's place which there isn't currently.
- That's a personal choice but doesn't change the value proposition of the device.
- That's perfectly understandable and not questioning it but not the usual experience as is clear from many others.
I'm not trying to convince you over but giving you a perspective of other opinions. You're entitled to your own.
There's people on here hunting bargains on $5,000 OLED TVs and $100,000 cars. Why not a $2,000 device they use day in day out.
Too locked down for what? I mean the amount of security/phishing/malware on android surely shows you how having apk's lying around everywhere isn't ideal. Also considering most of the apps you use that are APK are probably due to rooting/flashing/modding etc.
iMessage is infinitely better than FB messenger lol. This shows how little you care about security/privacy.
Quality again, if you don't notice then you are fine to keep buying cheap phones.
This was due to batteries that were considered in critical condition and needed replacement. Would you prefer this, or for the phone to just blow up? I know what you cheap phone manufacturers want.
Security means nothing to you clearly.
Product value is based on the value of the product, your cheap phone will be worthless after a year of use, iphone will drop maybe 20% in value over 2 years.
Basic users? Again what are you doing that you can't do on IOS. Rooting/roming/flashing etc doesn't count, as the only reason you are doing it is to make the cheap device you bought bareable.
I agree with you for sure here.
At least when I give my iPhones to my siblings, I know they will get many years of support from the manufacturer rather than relying on a tech person to have to root/flash roms to keep it updated and reduce bugs.
It sounds like you were unlucky in the past with Apple, could it be the way you approached them or negotiated the scenario? I have an issue, I book a session, they fix it. Fantastic service.
@onlinepred: My points on security is that if the data has gone through Australian internet services the device security becomes irrelevant due to Aus data retention laws,and as I said earlier typing out what I considered the benefits of android might be a little extreme for most people but I'm sticking to the notion that 2k for a phone, especially for the sake of buying into that 'it just works' mentality surprises me on a site like this.
Also with the service I constantly had really bad battery drain and it was only fixed after I took it to a 3rd party, this was after 3 apple services saying there was nothing wrong with the device
Also on the note of making cheap phones 'bearable' I'm currently on an s7 edge which I got from free from work but was flagship at the time, and I still rooted and flashed custom stuff just to squeeze more functionality out of it
@DracoManX69: No matter what you say, the devices you listed are inferior in nearly every way except price. If you like inferior phones, then that's great for you.
It's like me telling you that I can't understand why anyone would spend money on nutrients or a gym membership. It's literally a waste of money. But some people throw thousands over a few years on that stuff. Blows my mind. So I guess you have to figure out that you don't care about quality phones or having the "best of xxxx feature", you are okay to get dodgy phones and hack them till they are reasonable.
@onlinepred: I'll agree with you on spending thousands on gym and health shit that's wild, but I don't see how you think they're inferior, the specs features and Value (which is what my issue is) seems higher, I'll agree that in some regards the iPhone is better but not so much better than it warrants double the price, I think you're still paying for branding and inflated social value instead of usability value at that point
@DracoManX69: Have you ever looked at a camera comparison? Have you ever thought "I want really good stereo speakers"? What about "I want to record some of the highest quality video and audio (stereo audio recording!) and edit it all on my phone as a power user"? If not you can see how some people may not be a power user, they are okay with crappy speakers/camera/mic/audio processor/performance/water proofing/camera software/third party support/haptics etc etc etc
The iPhone will have better speakers, better camera/s, better performance (much better), better quality software compared to dodgy emui/miui/asus etc, much better haptics, much better gesture navigation.
So yes, like I said, if you don't care about the majority of things, and you are okay with cheapo phones like yourself as you want to mod them/flash roms until they become slightly better than they were, then that's your choice. Others like to be able to have the best out of the box, and for it all to just work.
I've had enough of this argument as you clearly aren't seeing reason. Please stop posting on apple deals calling them expensive.
P.S, I still have my IP7+, and I would pay the same again in a heartbeat over my S9+ and Pixel 2XL. It's a fantastic phone, and through the updates it has gotten better battery life, and better performance with more features over time. I'm going to hand it to my god daughter knowing it will be well supported for another 2 full years of security and OS updates - I got a new battery installed with warranty from Apple for $99. You literally cannot compare that to any android at all. It's so old, and yet it's probably better than most cheapo androids out these days.
@onlinepred: This is the first time I've ever commented question the value of an iPhone lol seems I must've hit a nerve with someone
I can't believe people think that the people on OzBargain have no money.
Just because you have money doesn't mean you don't understand value lol
Everyone has a different concept of value. Obviously a $2000 phone to you is not value but to others it is.
@Clear: Yeah just imo 2k for this phone doesn't seem valuable, I'd happily spend 2k on the right phone for me no problem
@DracoManX69: Meanwhile I'm super tight on phones and wouldn't even spend $1000. $600 however was enough 😉
@Clear: Yeah look it'd have to be pretty wild to be worth 2k for me but apple even coming foward as a value proposition at all astounds me
Sigh. No 256gb Xs models available. I guess they are the most highly sought after model.
Will Apple Australia honour a warranty from these guys? And will the warranty actually start on the date of purchase?
Yes. And warranty starts from activation date, not purchase date.
2 GRAND FOR A PHONE WTF!!
Have you been living under a rock lol? We have more than Nokia 3310 now.
To be fair, they’re not just phones and haven’t been for a very long time.
Keep up. It’s 2018.
Not just phones.. hmm pretty sure they still are not more productive than a laptop or tablet..
Irrelevant point.
@GregRust: I changed my mind. I concur. They are different markets. You can't beat a real computer for doing real stuff. iPads are for consumption. I could say more about their use in education but I probably shouldn't. iPhones are for sneaking into the classroom and forgetting about the school's phone policy.
Apple is losing sales big time, and Tim cook had to cut the price of XR to $450 in the US. They got too confident that their customers are so loyal that they will spend $2000 for a phone no thanks.
Yes they make great phones with top notch software but id rather extend the life of my existing iphone, unless the price drops to a more reasonable level.
The XR price wasn't reduced, that's the price with trade-in.
The XS is the exact same price as the X like-for-like last year.
Stop spreading misinformation.
iOS12 has significantly helped to extend the life of previous gen iPhones so you should be fine.
The XS seem to be falling in price quite hard. Prices on Gumtree put new unsealed XS Max 512s at around 1800 or so. I managed to get a lightly used unit for about 1600 which while still ridiculous, slightly more palatable than paying $2369.
I wish Apple increases the price next year again to $3000 a phone.
and when they do, the previous years model will "ONLY" be $2000!
good job marketing team, you can go home now.
Comes to $3k with Apple Care and all the dongles you need
$4000 then, and make the phone last for a year only.
It would be worth it because.. you get gorilla glass version XXT and slimmer bezels, and AA14 chip.. just trust me its faster for snapchat and Whatsapp videos
How come xs's purchase history has one sold for $89 yesterday?
Someone got lucky
I'm an ex-apple fan since 2G but stopped using Apple iphone from 5G due to their ridiculous price tag. Now I can't afford to go back to Apple iOS..pls gofundme
Nice troll but what's a 2G and 5G lol.
Told you, I'm in apple stateless, can't remember where I belonged..so pls GoFundMe
Phone companies are really testing how much people are willing to pay. I wouldn't be surprised if phones hit $2500-$3000 by the end of next year, people start not buying them, and the prices start stop increasing to several years or maybe even drop back down to about 2k or less.
Apple is charging what the market will bear. Personally, I think it's silly paying $2k for a phone, but plenty of people disagree with me so good luck to them. Mobile phone shipments have been declining in 2018. Part of the reason is there's few compelling reasons to upgrade. The new features are evolutionary instead of revolutionary. A slightly better display. A display that goes around the notch. A slightly better camera than the great one on the previous generation of phone.
I think it's silly too, and I hope Apple doesn't read this, but it's worth it. The phone is one of the most important devices of the modern age. How many times do you open your phone per day? It's crazy.
I don't think you should be opening your phone everyday
its just the current generation, spending money they dont have, to get more likes on instagram
notice the guy with the $2k phone might have a shit box car, be renting and have $0 in savings.
Thank you for the ridiculous hyperbole of anecdotal evidence. I'm sure you see dudes with $2K phones getting into shitbox cars every day, DiscoJango, proving your point that these phones are over-priced.
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We got the original iPhoneX 64Gb at an Ozbargained JB Hi FI special a few months ago at $999 outright (1 day special)…..just wait folks, the price will come down, just gotta time it right and be patient.
And then…the OzBargainers will pounce like an old lady on a bowl of mushy peas (or a bag of boiled lollies)
Just wait another year you mean?
The flipside of that is their resale value remains quite high. A one year old iPhone X sells for considerably more (~80% RRP) than the alternative Galaxy or other device. It all depends which way you look at it.
I just today got my battery replaced on my 6 for $39. It is working faster on iOS12 than it was on iOS11. It should see me out another couple of years.
People who pay over $1k for a phone 😂
A computer I would say. You are more likely to use your phone 24/7 for shopping/internet banking
Nah I use my computer at work
You dont need a $2000 phone to do that.
These days any phone that is $500-700 is more than capable of those tasks. Spending double that give negligible benefit for the price.
Literally what I was trying to say above and I got downvoted to oblivion lmao
Done people pay money for Google pixels lol!!!!!
512GB XS Max with PLASMA for $1,699.20
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Apple-iPhone-XS-Max-512-GB-Avail…
AU $2,152.59 in checkout
Listing ended was 1699 in cart when I posted it
That was for the 64gb version not 512gb
Or just get an Android and stop complaining about the price.
That’d be nice.
This apple vs. android garbage is even more tired than Holden vs Ford.
May as well just get a windows phone then
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Wow still a whopping two grand after discount.