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[NSW/ACT/QLD/SA/WA] Optus 5G Home Broadband $70/Month Unlimited [Selected Suburbs] with 50 Mbps Guaranteed

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As per the title, Optus is rolling out its 5G Home Broadband at 50Mbps guaranteed speed sometime in the middle of 2019 year. To begin with, it’s limited to few suburbs per state.

Good bye NBN.

PS. I am not in one of those listed suburbs!


Mod: Further info

  • As of today, a lucky selection of Optus customers in Canberra (who live in Dickson or Manuka) will have the opportunity to sign up to get a 5G home Wi-Fi service.
  • Optus says it has launched an additional live site in Sydney and 47 more sites are planned to be online by March this year.
  • Optus has opened expressions of interest today allowing customers to register their interest for 5G home broadband in certain areas of selected suburbs including 23 in NSW, 13 in Queensland and nine in the ACT
  • Optus will confirm that we have received your submission and will keep you updated on the progress of your Expression of Interest.

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  • So, is 5GB faster than NBN?

    • so many factors. theory yes, but both NBN & (this) 5G are throttled.

    • +13

      Sadly "NBN" means different things to different areas, thanks to Tony Abbot's moronic cluster-f@#% of the NBN.

      50Mbps is pretty fast, but latency and congestion are still major hurdles that Optus will have to sort out. And $70/month is definitely promotional pricing during the trial period.

      My guess is that the final consumer product will be something like:
      $80/month for 200Gb with 50Mbps speeds
      $100/month for 500Gb with 50Mbps speeds
      $180/month for unlimited and uncapped speed

      Note that 5G is very short range and only likely to be available in inner-city suburbs. Anyone out in the less dense suburbs is going to be out of luck, at least in the next 1-2 years.

      • +1
        • Al Gore says hi.

      • +1

        There is no way they will do an unlimited AND uncapped speed plan. It'll be uncapped for the GB limited plans, and throttled for the unlimited data plan.

        Optus and Telstra learnt their lessons on cable plans that were uncapped speed and data in the 2000s.

      • The suburbs list in the initial Optus list are mostly outer suburban areas.

        My guess is that the price would go stay flat for a few years and then slowly go down over time. Initial 4G and 3G prices looked pretty cheap as well and it still went down gradually.

        The name of the game is that with this service at $70/month Optus keeps all of the money. Selling an NBN service, they keep only $20 from $70.

  • +1

    50Mbps is a good thing for fancy 5G?

    I'm getting 121Mbps on Optus 4G+ using the telstra speed test.
    https://imgur.com/a/2rls61Q

    This is in Richmond Victoria and I'm only paying $35/m.

    • +4

      35\month for unlimited?

      • Must be 10G data plan

        • I'm on a $45/m sim only plan with vodafone and I get 50GB of data and around 120Mbps inside my home in Caroline Springs

    • That's 50Mbps guaranteed at any time, even peak periods. I doubt you'll get over 20Mbps on peak periods with 4G.

    • Is this phone plan or home 4G plan

  • +1

    Oh holy hell my suburb is covered (excited squeal)

  • +1

    Same issue will happen to a mobile broadband connection just like a fixed line technology, there will be congestion at peak time when an area reaches scale. There's a reason why launch sites are selectively picked.

    The ease of set up is super enticing though.

    • +4

      Congestion wouldn't be an as much of an issue if there was a reliable National Broadband Network servicing everyone with fiber instead of this hotch potch roulette service. Now this wireless would be better than most of the possible connections, so more people will be on it. Sigh.

      • +1

        It's not so much the reliability of nbn than the fact that some of its technology is already outdated.

      • +1

        Of course it would, congestion is most often the result of commercial decisions. NBN retailers buy bandwidth, or rather, lack thereof. Slow sync/connection speed is probably more what you meant.

      • +1

        A lot of the NBN's congestion problems is due to that idiot Conroy giving in to whining by Telstra and Optus, resulting in a stupid number (121!) of Points of Interconnect (POI) that each ISP has to buy bandwidth at individually (instead of a more reasonable number of approx 2 per a state).

        • Congestion issues are due to FTTN. FTTP connections suffer no such congestion. What makes you think POI caused the issue?

          • @Strong Salad: He’s right, does not matter what tech you have. The amount of cvc an rsp purchase at a different POI dictates your peak hour bandwidth available. Having a 100mbps FTTP connection is of no use if your rsp purchases 100mbps of bandwidth for 100 users simultaneously using the network.

        • NBN's congestion problems are due to RSPs offering unlimited data plans with insufficient CVC.

          If RSPs only offered plans with quotas then congestion would disappear.

    • +1

      I don't think you can make that assumption until mmWave rollout starts and the performance is still the same. The population density that each mmWave tower will cover will be significantly smaller than current 4G towers.

      • Isn't it more capex intensive to build those towers though, in that it requires more towers than a 4G spectrum?

        It will definitely be interesting to see but RSPs are all margin sensitive, so their business case will have to optimise the no. of towers and actual revenues per tower.

  • +1

    How can they guarantee 50Mbps?? Just a hunch, but I suspect this will come out not to be true.

    • It's 50Mbps guaranteed, theoretical maximums are way higher.

      • +1

        They can't guarantee 50mbs down, they have no idea what congestion is going to be like. Optus couldn't even guarantee 50mbs down on FTTP nbn LOL. Optus is a complete joke

        • they can if they limit the number of users.

    • +1

      They can't, you will drop speeds at peak time and they just hope you don't go and cancel it after 30 days.

    • 50Mbps is an easy guarantee for 5G, due to being approximately 1000 times faster, and able to connect to almost 1000 more devices, per metre from the tower. It would take a massively significant change in Internet usage habits to make 50mbps unachievable on 5G

  • +2

    At the end of the day 5G is still limited by the spectrum available and transmission allocated so by no means an NBN killer for a lot of ppl, but if your stuck in a dodgy/copper NBN area it may well be better. Competition is great for us all.

  • Looks like Optus will continue the trend with rolling this out in the NT.. Not There lol

    • +1

      the big surprise is not launch in vic..

  • Wow all these new and amazing technologies rolling out, seems like almost all of Victoria has nbn ans I'm sitting here satisfied with my 330kb/s max download speed on adsl2+

    • I guess you don't mind your 360p netflix.

    • +10

      I don't think you comprehend how much wireless spectrum would be required for it to compete with the NBN on both a user & usage scale.

      • +1

        You also have to take into account the fact that mm wavelengths are going to require line of sight between the tower and antenna of the modem, making it a lot harder to get a connection.

    • The danger to the NBN is that a significant percentage are not heavy users of the internet and can be serviced by wireless services. If you are downloading terabytes of data a month or need faster speeds than 100Mbps then you need FTTP. If you are one of the 90% on 50Mbps or slower and happy with a 200GB quota then wireless might well be a viable solution.

      The only differentiating factor for the NBN was 1Gbps speeds but Labor gave that up by introducing speed tiers.

  • +3

    Isn't the wavelength needed for 5G supposedly really dangerous…?

    • -1

      Only if you are stupid and do not understand the simple Planck–Einstein relation (E = hv).

      • +2

        Given 5g uses frequencies 5-50x higher than 4g, wouldn't that relation suggest the energy emitted is higher (and therefore possibly more dangerous?).

    • +3

      Yes. But very few people care, and the down votes will come just for having an unpopular opinion.

      • Didn't realise it was an unpopular standpoint. I also don't have an opinion on it, never looked too closely at it. I have seen some videos and articles discussing the possible health issues, and possible corruption of the corps pushing the tech. Could just be anti-huawei propaganda though.

    • "supposedly"

      Got any sources for that claim?

      Apparently it can modify some biological processes (probably due to heating?), but off-hand I can't recall the power density typically found from a mobile phone.
      See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency

  • if NBN only use FTTH they may still compete with 5G

  • another fantasy we will be dreaming about.

  • +1

    $70 a month for unlimited data at 50m sounds great. Hopefully congestion is managed well

    • +1

      depends on how many 5G users on the switch. You may get the 50Mbps speed, but with extremely large lag.

  • +2

    They should really look at the NBN map and do their own rollouts base on that… My suburb kept getting delayed and is going to be HFC…

    GFG

    • 100Mbps HFC is great with no congestion.

      • +2

        Key word ^ no congestion

  • None in VIC, TAS and NT… these farming states

  • +2

    I have Optus 200gb mobile data plan.

    In a phone hotspot at night I can get 120-200Mbps which is nice.

    This is a cat16 mobile device though.

    This is on 4G. Rarely ever do I drop below 50mbps

    • Can I ask which device … as I just signed up for the mobile data plan and are interested in this?

      • The sim is in an s8. If you can find an unlocked netgear nighthawk m1, you'll be laughing.

    • Same here. I used Netgear 810s and got 110-130Mbps most of the time. Rarely it drops under 100.

  • Left off the map again

  • My suburb is listed!

  • -7

    Jesus, please ban Huawei forever. How NBN co can survive in 5G era.

  • -3

    And the prophecy edges ever closer.

    5G was always going to be an NBN killer and here it is. The NBN will literally be obsolete before it is installed. With a touch of luck I'll never need to subscribe to the wretched thing and can jump straight to 5G.

    • +4

      5G is a FTTN killer sure. But it wouldn't at all compete with a proper FTTP (original NBN) network. Good thing the Liberals were the better managers and made sure to waste money on FTTN for nothing.

      • -2

        Labor's speed tiers killed FTTP. You can build a 1Gbps network but when your expectation is that in 2026 50% will connect at 12Mbps and <1% at 1Gbps then something is wrong.

  • +4

    100 + votes for a deal thats 6 months away. haha

  • -1

    In my opinion, it may not kill NBN, but will kill its monopoly and result in a competitive business environment across the country. I currently get Cable from Optus with 100mbps and heaps of stuff for $90 a month, this deal is miles away from what NBN plans have to offer. When talking to the providers, there's no way the can offer lucrative deals on NBN as the underlying bulk purchase prices are already on a higher end not leaving enough room for margins.
    In addition to that, their flawed rollout plan. Newly subdivided properties like mine are unable to get NBN whilst the whole street is ready to go for NBN. Multiple calls only result in a by a book response "unfortunately there's more work required in your property and will likely be in July 2020".
    I'm so with Optus on this and will wait for their roll out in my area.
    This is right in NBN's face :-)

  • Wow, shows what value the country got for it's $48 billion NBN investment only to be superseded a several years later by superior tech.

    I'm sure the government had nothing better to spend the money on/wasn't a waste at all.. as it provided a marginal improvement over ADSL2 in the pre 5G days.

    • +1

      This is going to be a complete disaster if many people take it up. Speeds will crawl to below adsl speeds. Optus is one of the worst ISPs around

    • +2

      If only we'd stayed with the FTTP model. Would be far superior to anything wireless.

  • We Victorians cannot get a break. First Glenn Maxwell and now this…
    My Optus 4G home internet runs at 48-50mbps, and does not drop out for anything much. The big advantage was, no NBN installation loony hacking into a wall (that happened elsewhere in my street) and I can take the modem wherever I want, within reason.
    But it will be worth looking at 5G once it settles in and as others have pointed out, it provides competition for the NBN.

    • +2

      48-50mbps is impressive. Do you get slow downs during the evening, or are able to sustain those speeds?

      • Nope, goes like a blur. My old ADSL2+ was 1-1.5mbps, which was pathetic.
        I have monitored the speed of the 4G carefully and it stays in the 40s in the evening, and does not buffer. And this is with a modem I bought off Gumtree (ex-Vividwireless) and an internal antenna.
        I just tested it now, 47.9. Good enough.
        With the deal that Optus put on, it's pretty good value.

      • Not to take away from Branners but 40-50 is pretty easily achievable on the Optus 4G network if your local tower isn't getting hammered. Personally I'm getting this right now https://www.speedtest.net/result/a/4646982553.

  • Just when I thought internet infrastructure couldn't get any more complicated in Australia!?

    It's as if the technology is simply outpacing the incredibly slow government/s. While they have meeting after meeting after election after election, the world keeps moving on.

    It's like they're a group of cavemen deciding on what colour should the fire be? and who's going to pay for the wood? Where we will get the wood from? How will we transport the wood? Where will we burn the fire? and so on and so on and so on…..

  • Currently with vividwireless due to no nbn and adsl in my area. And my suburb is listed!!!! Cant wait to jump on..

  • -1

    Interesting a large number of the suburbs in NSW contain housing commission homes eg. Bonnyrigg, Dharruk, Tregear, Bidwell and Warwick Farm.

    1. Is this were our Social Money is going to pay their internet?
    2. Recent scientific findings have outlined multiple risks associated with 5G bandwidth. Are these areas test subjects?
  • Unlimited and guaranteed 50mbs? Thats a good joke

  • I already use a 4G hotspot with an Optus sim for my home internet with a WiFi mesh across the house and get a solid 70 Mbps. Not sure why I would ever need more but this is a good deal.

  • I have Optus 4G 200GB plan but can only get max 30mbps down. Most times its around 15-20mbps. I have tried different router positions in the house and no improvement.
    The router is capable 4G.

    Compared to my phone on Telstra I get consistent 80-110mbps

    I searched for nearest tower and Optus is only 300m away although I cannot see the tower from my house.

    I read members here get 100mbps from Optus 4G not sure what is wrong with my area

    • Honestly, get a Better router. Try the sim in your phone and see what you get.

      • Yeah.. most bog standard 4G modems are Cat 4 (connects to less towers/frequencies at the same time, theoretical max 150mbps), whereas some phones are Cat 16 (theorectical 1gbps)!

    • Invest in a better router eg Asus RT-88U. I'm getting 60-110 Mbps on 4G consistently depending on the time of day

      • I have this router is it OK? Anything not good about it? Only just bought it
        https://www.tp-link.com/dk/products/details/cat-4691_Archer-…

        • That would be max 150, most likely 50-120

          • @smpantsonfire: I'm trying to understand what are the limitations of my router, could you tell me which part of the spec it is lacking?

            • @yellowfever: I'm not that clued up on it, but yours is cat 4 device.

              The way I explain it, is that imagine hoses coming out of a water tank.

              That router can connect to 1 or maybe 2 hoses to get water

              The latest phones can connect to up to 4-8 hoses at once.

              More hoses more water.

              That's about the extent that I understand it

    • What do you get directly under the tower?

      I get >120mbps on Optus compared to <100mbps on Telstra from a good location 800m from the tower.

    • Try a netgear nighthawk m1

  • As Huawei is out, do we know who supplies Optus 5G base stations, antennas and mini cells?

    • +1

      Kogan

    • +1

      Nokia

    • +1

      Trump

    • Aquaman

    • Non-Huawei brands

    • +1

      Rocketman

  • How does this work- like a Pocket Wifi?
    Can you take it with you when you travel interstate? or is it completely fixed to your address only?

    • No, a plug in router. Should be able to take it with you to other 5g areas.

  • +1

    Aren't there still a lot of health concerns over the higher amount of radiation from 5g? https://youtu.be/1Qt5B39LB7c

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