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PMIC20

This is the screaming bargain for me.
I bought one last time, and love it so much i want to tell the world

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Microsoft-Surface-Laptop-i5-4GB-…

$999
$799 with 20% off
$760 with 5% off ebay gift cards
$670 with trs refund

Yeah yeah its only got 4gb and not 6000GB of RAM, no you cant run the FBI data base off it, but does the job for me and at this price, no complaints whatsoever!

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  • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 10:02
    +10

    For this price it is a fantastic laptop. I hate the fabric as it shows wear terribly.

    • Samsungnote10 on 12/03/2019 - 10:02

      thanks for the bad news:)

      I havent used mine that much/long yet

    • ajole on 12/03/2019 - 10:21
      +4

      Seconded. Grey alcantara is the worst. My surface pro looks very dirty after 6 months of daily use, despite working at a desk with clean hands 99% of the time. Cleaning it using the recommended techniques never makes it come up 'as new', just a little better, and its very weird scrubbing your computer with water/cleaner. I'm basically going to have to buy a new surface cover in 6 months and ensure its a dark colour!

      • FeZZa21 on 12/03/2019 - 12:23
        +2

        Use http://www.bowdensown.com.au/fabra-cadabra

        Works greats on my Alcantara steering wheel

        • ajole on 12/03/2019 - 13:30
          -1

          Thanks for the tip on the product. $20 for something that I will only use 1-2 times per year just for my laptop is a bit too low an ROI for me right now, but might look into it if I get some more Alcantara things.

          Also I don't like the idea of using something that has 'deodorising' as a feature on my laptop - does it leave things smelling a bit fabreze-y?

          • FeZZa21 on 12/03/2019 - 14:38
            +2

            @ajole: Can use it on fabrics too. Yes it's got a fresh orangey scent pretty nice actually

    • annarchon on 12/03/2019 - 10:38
      +5

      But but but

      Used in other high-end luxury goods, Alcantara® ages beautifully.

      You mean they are lying?

      • ajole on 12/03/2019 - 13:32
        +4

        Lol. I can't see how alcantara would ever age 'beautifully' in any scenario - even if untouched. I feel like its a bit of a fad, if anything.

    • drumrollplease on 04/04/2019 - 11:06

      this is probably blasphemy, but I placed self adhesive book covers on it because I hate the fabric wear but love everything else about it hah

      • onlinepred on 04/04/2019 - 11:06
        +1

        Haha, does it still feel premium?

        • drumrollplease on 04/04/2019 - 11:07

          Oh for sure, for me anyway, I like it more with my laminated book covers on it lol - I used the ones with patterns so it's pretty funky haha

  • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 10:06
    +18

    I know I would be repeating myself, but 4gb is really not quite enough. and the damn thing can't be disassembled. well, it can, but it's not a reversible process. with this kind of specs this is really tablet replacement territory, and there are better tablets out there.

    • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 11:04
      +2

      Just because you can't deal with a machine with 4gb, doesn't mean it's suddenly unusable for anyone else.

      Good thing the price is so close to a tablet for you I guess?

        • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 11:16
          +37

          You have just confirmed you know nothing about computers.

            • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 11:23
              +25

              @[Deactivated]: The more ram you have spare, the more an app will use. Your little show of using 4.8gb shows you have more than 4gb ram, therefore your example is entirely irrelevant and hilariously clueless.

              I have Chrome, Outlook, Slack, VS Code open on my surface (i5/4gb/128gb). Sure I would love to be using my desktop all the time, but I can code and work perfectly fine on my laptop. Not everyone needs to open up their laptop at the cost of quality/warranty/portability.

              • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 11:30
                -8

                @onlinepred: of course I have more than 4Gb, RAM is cheap these days, and I like the ability to add it whenever I feel like it, not paying premium for it to be installed at the factory of a greedy manufacturer. and my laptop can be opened and serviced because it's supposed to be opened and serviced, without losing any warranty.

                I can do all my coding from the laptop, but hello I also use it to work with RAW photos, and I do not own a desktop, why bother.

                Again, you can find a decent laptop for the price, that can be serviced and upgraded at your own discretion, and you won't be stuck with the specs you chose because it was a bargain 2 years ago.

                • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 11:34
                  +2

                  @[Deactivated]: Let me know what laptop compares to this but $200 more please - legitimately curious.

                  FYI, my MBA I bought in 2012 came with 4gb RAM, it's still an incredible device today - and I even do some xcode work on it to this day. Windows went through a range of changes, most recently win 7 and win 10 focused on reduced ram use. It's funny as back in 2012 people were saying you NEEDED 8gb MINIMUM. It shows how clueless they were and still are. If you have specific needs, such as gaming/video editing etc, then this laptop isn't for you, and hopefully with your knowledge you would know this. For what this is, a basic workstation, it's fantastic.

                    • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 11:51
                      +3

                      @[Deactivated]: Lenovo E is a chromebook with a celeron processor, 4gb ram and 720p screen?

                      Latitude again the best you could get for $1k is an i3, 720p screen 4gb ram.

                      Both are more expensive btw. You can't upgrade the screens. Not only are they not future proof, they are obsolete before you buy it (as an office or home machine)

                      • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 12:00
                        -4

                        @onlinepred: you are tiring me to no end. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/442143 Lenovo E490
                        Latitude I am referring to is same specs, FHD screen, i5, SSD. also around the same price.

                        Screens are upgraded easily.

                        Or do you live in some parallel reality. The subject of this deal is going to be obsolete sooner than any of the upgradeable laptops I mention here.

                        You probably just don't know where to look for laptops. These prices are what you get from Dell direct when they have no sales. No sane end user buys from Dell direct.

                        anyway, looks like I am in the wrong thread :) enjoy your laptops, if you think they are good. I tried to warn you :)

                        • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 12:17
                          +2

                          @[Deactivated]: If you honestly think the E490 will last you, you are only kidding yourself. We got 3 in from clients last week complaining of loud fan noises and poor performance, as with last gens model this gen is even worse managing heat and restricts clock speed when under load. This is more limiting than 4gb RAM in practice. We had to change the CPU thermal paste which only improved things marginally. This is a flawed laptop out of the gate, as was last years - again it's a budget workstation laptop.

                          "Screens are upgraded easily" ROFL. Why on earth would you buy a shit laptop for cheap, with the intent of having to replace everything in it in a few years. You clearly have no clue of the market these laptops (surface/premium ultralights with ultra low voltage CPUs) are targeted for - and with that I bid you good luck and farewell.

                          • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 13:07
                            -2

                            @onlinepred: E490 will last you longer than Surface Laptop, it's a fact. We have lots of people on Surface anything (laptops, Surface Pro's etc), and the number of issues with them demanded a dedicated team, while the productive part of the company, on said Lenovos and Dells is just silently working without an issue. My T450 is still like new.

                            most users don't need color accurate screens :) they just care about good viewing angles, and every IPS screen delivers. I do care about screen quality, which is why I have a laptop with accurate colours out of the box.

                            I upgraded a few laptop screens, and the reason I did that is that the greedy manufacturer tries to charge you a lot for an IPS panel, while the best panels fitting mainstream laptops can be bought for $140 tops, and installed in 10 minutes. So you buy a good laptop with crappy screen for cheap, and make it a great laptop by installing a proper, zero-flicker, colour accurate, fullHD IPS panel :) profit.

                            also, screaming inane statements doesn't quite make them true :)

                            • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 13:22

                              @[Deactivated]:

                              most users don't need color accurate screens :) they just care about good viewing angles

                              See, again you assume you know what every single user in the world needs, which is absurd - as can be seen by all the negs you got.

                              • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 13:31

                                @onlinepred: most users haven't even seen a color accurate screen, my friend :D let alone need one

                          • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 13:17
                            -6

                            @onlinepred: yep, there clearly is a market for ultralight ultralow ultrauseless things at the moment! :D thanks, but no, thanks! next!

                          • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 12:57
                            -2

                            @lunchbox99: I am not sure about anatomical details, but that's what I am saying, my friend, 4gb is not enough :D

                          • Samsungnote10 on 12/03/2019 - 13:20
                            +2

                            @lunchbox99: 1,856 sold

                            • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 13:35
                              -2

                              @Samsungnote10: what can I say, on your closest junkyard in 2 years there's a good chance to find one :)

                              • Samsungnote10 on 12/03/2019 - 13:38
                                +1

                                @[Deactivated]: haha,
                                I must be one in a million,

                                we still use a desktop from 8 yrs ago, I think we paid $350 brand new from MSY

                                still going strong

                                but we will replace it soon, because its getting noisy

                • Kontiki on 12/03/2019 - 15:32
                  +1

                  @[Deactivated]: "RAM is cheap these days".

                  You lost me there.

                  • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 16:07

                    @Kontiki: you lost me straight away, because it is :)

                    example: added a 4gb ddr4 plank to my Dell laptop, cost me $39 delivered. an 8gb plank would have cost me $72. expensive for you?

              • bobz79 on 12/03/2019 - 12:54
                +2

                @onlinepred: "The more ram you have spare, the more an app will use."
                haven't heard of this before, care to explain?

                As far as I know, if you don't have enough RAM your OS will start paging (disk as extended memory/RAM, way slower than RAM)! The applications doesn't really care, unless they have optimization based on available memory!

                • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 12:58
                  +4

                  @bobz79: of course they will be paging. 4gb sucks :D

                  • lunchbox99 on 12/03/2019 - 13:08
                    +6

                    @[Deactivated]: I'm with you my man. 4GB and 128GB ssd is going to make you sad on windows. Within six months the winsxs folder will occupy 2/3 of the device storage, lol.

                    • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 13:26

                      @lunchbox99: It would be stupid to ever do auto updates on a windows machine, I manage them myself so no issues. Also my wifes machine auto updates and over 3 years has had no issues with 64gb storage. Perhaps you are doing something wrong?

                      • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 13:29
                        -1

                        @onlinepred: sounds like a lot of legwork just to keep the system up to date, don't you think? been there, done that, thanks but no thanks! next!

                      • lunchbox99 on 12/03/2019 - 15:03

                        @onlinepred: Lol, "doing something wrong". WinSXS is DESIGNED to bloat. It's purpose it to cache compatibility libraries.

                        Also Windows 10 is designed to auto update. If you manually update you have limited control on what is updated plus when you manually update in windows 10 (by clicking the update button) you are also opting in to C & D releases BY DESIGN.
                        https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows10-check-for-…

                        PS 64GB storage.. what a loser!!

                  • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 13:24
                    +1

                    @[Deactivated]: I get paging on 16gb, so are you saying 16gb also sucks?

                    • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 13:27

                      @onlinepred: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-Surface-Laptop-i5-72…

                      let's not deviate here. just scroll down to verdict, we're talking about Surface laptop here.
                      I get paging on my servers, oh my goodness! I am doomed.

                      There's a big difference between elective paging and active application being forced into paged memory :D now this is really ROFL.

                      • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 13:32
                        +2

                        @[Deactivated]: So how much ram do I need to run word, are you suggesting I need 64gb RAM? Or is that not enough?

                        • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 13:36

                          @onlinepred: you're done with your coding for the day? obviously 4gb is plenty for you then :) I think RAM is not what you need to run the world (unless it's world of warkraft), you need some beer! and lots of it :) to chill

                          8gb is enough for most.

                          Photo and especially video editing - buy more if you hit the ceiling.

                          But in general, just stick as much as you can fit, and won't regret the cost! 8gb plank of DDR4 is around $80, just put it in, and rejoice with 16gb!

                          • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 13:46
                            +2

                            @[Deactivated]: Great so for most that just use a web browser and maybe max a browser and word, it's fine. Thanks mate. Case closed. I'm glad we got there.

                            • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 13:54
                              +1

                              @onlinepred: there are much better machines for that use case than this one! come on, man, I am not flexing muscle, and I know not everyone needs a mobile workstation, I just honestly think that this laptop is crap at this configuration! OK for many users it may be fine for now, but come on, it's like buying a silver plated toothbrush because it's silver plated, while there are electric toothbrushes that cost less and do a better job.

                            • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 14:29

                              @onlinepred: here's a present for you, last one from a batch. treat yourself or buy for a kid, this thing will ride through a lot :)
                              https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/223407443820?ul_noapp=true

                              it's a private sale alright, but worry not, warranty is attached to service tag, doesn't matter where the unit came from. Latitude 14" is a staple when it comes to productivity. i5, SSD, 8gb RAM muahaha sorry I meant to keep a straight face here :D

                              but seriously, everything here is upgradeable and replaceable, even the battery.

                              • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 14:42

                                @[Deactivated]: My brother in law is using my 2012 MBA i5/4gb ram/128gb SSD (upgraded ssd) for uni now and loves it. I'm using my current surface as I get 12 hours of battery life from it. We have a thinkpad carbon on order for replacement of our off site dev machines. I don't really care for specs on my laptop for dev work, just needs a high res screen which is essential for dev, very fast SSD and that's it. My workstation is a desktop as realistically if you are worried about specs you literally shouldn't buy a laptop, and I can remote into it while on the road on my 4gb RAM laptop with ease. ALso the touchpads on lenovos are terrible, it's so good when on the road using a good trackpad like surface trackpad.

                                • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 14:57

                                  @onlinepred: this is dell, jeez, you don't know hardware at all. once and for all, surface quality is inferior because they are consumer grade devices, and have corresponding warranty. latitude is business workhorse that is built to last, and it does with little worry to it support. also I wouldn't recommend anything over 1080p resolution for remore desktop because of scaling issues, work machines don't come with high res screens for a reason, and it's not required for dev that's for sure.. ok I will leave you walk your narrow path in peace :) I am sorry I couldn't convince you.

                                  • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 15:09

                                    @[Deactivated]: It's like you are new to laptops. We had XPS13 which were terrible, they throttled all the time, couldn't use more than 80% of CPU before throttling kicks in. Mouse pad lifted and becomes useless due to battery bubble, massive fan whine.

                                    My Laptop is 1440P, so is my desktop, no scaling, works as expected no issues.

                                    LOL if devs don't require high res screens then they don't need more than 4gb ram. Full circle!!!

                                    You can't convince me, because I am using the very device you say is useless. You are the only one that needs convincing of anything.

                                    https://photos.app.goo.gl/RURQ3HD3wGuoC3WJ6

                                    That's my dell XPS 13

                                    • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 15:23

                                      @onlinepred: sigh. XPS is also consumer grade device. no point reasoning with you :D you have it all wrong, my friend. sorry, my head just hurts, half from laughter though. We have hundreds of devs here, and everyone mutually agrees we don't need high res screens, so go figure :D there are X use cases when you might need a 4k screen on a 15" laptop: 4k video editing, CAD, photo editing (less so, because of reasons), but development is not one of them. higher resolution just draws more power, and it's not really required to display text. Plus scaling issues. Plus.. damn, I am tired of this conversation :D

                                      • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 15:27

                                        @[Deactivated]: Are all your devs noobs? Seriously? If I had the choice I would have a high res monitor, text looks incredible and makes it much easier to read, and also allows you to put apps side by side without reducing size of contents which is essential when doing dev - need stackoverflow and IDE open at same time. I'm talking about 1440 btw. Never said 4k.

                                        • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 15:30

                                          @onlinepred: monitor yes, we have high res monitors for those who really need them, but for coding nope.. but that's monitors! and we are talking laptops, you're deviating again. no sane person here would want a more than 1080p screen on a laptop, because it's plain pointless.. and painful :D

                • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 13:29

                  @bobz79: This is correct, but logic says if you have 2.5 gb free RAM, and you are using chrome for example, each time you open a new tab it creates a new instance of itself, if you are hitting 2.0gb used by chrome, it's possible that the next tab will make chrome unload the oldest tab. If you were not running out of ram, chrome would continue to use more and more ram the more tabs you open.

                  Having SSD really helps loading from paging, in most cases it's not that noticable or bad.

                  • Unrvl on 12/03/2019 - 15:12

                    @onlinepred: wow everyone quit the bitching, the guy isn't wrong. 4gb doesn't cut much these days with a heavy windows 10. My macbook air running windows and 4gb of ram is absolutely dying a a work horse, i can barely run outlook and a few tabs without spotify glitching my music because of lack of resources. hence why i just literally purchased a new laptop.

                    • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 15:15

                      @Unrvl: They made windows 10 work better on devices with less ram.

                      Are you running bootcamp or parallels? 4gb is fine for my win 10 machine. Perhaps you got something wrong? Virus?

                      • Unrvl on 12/03/2019 - 15:32

                        @onlinepred: Sorry i didn't read this full thread properly, but i'd like to chime in with my 2c.

                        I had a macbook air, 4gb ram. This worked okay under OSX, but as soon as i hit it with a fresh win10 (bootcamp) latest drivers, latest updates, an anti virus, office suite, chrome and a few others. it couldn't deal. I am actually typing with it right now with spotify in the background and my spotify will skip, this is a laggy piece of junk, and sure the CPU is definitely to blame but my memory is sitting at 90% right now.

                        4gb on Windows 10 in 2019 is not something you should pair with a beautiful computer like the surface. it's a massive letdown.

                        I especially liked this thread because i actually purchased one of those E490's a few weeks ago, so i can kinda validate this whole argument. You both are correct in your own way. the E490 is a great laptop that will last longer than a surface, however it certainly does have massive thermal & throttling issues holding it back. I would never get one of these E490/590s with a dedicated GPU, as even with the integrated it can gets quite hot under small amounts of load. That said - you can tune it, as i explained here.

                        I wouldn't recommend surface in this post, as beautiful as it is, that 4gb is going to cut its longevity in half.

      • Zondor on 12/03/2019 - 15:30

        I don't think 4GB is an acceptable minimum in 2019, nor is 128GB base HD's with a full windows OS.

    • leftspeaker2000 on 12/03/2019 - 11:56
      +3

      I have this laptop and love it. While I would rather more ram, I don't run into any issues. I usually only have one or two apps (Chrome and Word) open at once. If you were trying to use this for photoshop, you might run into some slowdown if you also had a lot open in the background.

  • lplau on 12/03/2019 - 10:09
    +9

    Obviously the OP isn't a technical, cuz he would know that most databases don't sit in RAM…. so in order to store the FBI database he would actually need more than 128GB worth of space….

    Explains why 4GB works perfectly for the OP.

    • Samsungnote10 on 12/03/2019 - 10:12

      good point!

    • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 10:53
      +4

      To access that data though you would need tonnes of ram. So OP is still right.

      • Samsungnote10 on 12/03/2019 - 17:26

        thats exactly what I meant……not :)

      • lplau on 12/03/2019 - 21:43

        Wouldn't need tonnes of RAM just depends on who you tackle the data and how long you are willing to wait. haha….

        Sadly alot of programmers nowadays forget the old school principles of coding to minimize resource usage. They always think "oh RAM is cheap and CPU is cheap…. doesn't matter if the code isn't efficient". I remember the days you'd have to make extremely optimized code because you only had 128mb of RAM to work with.

        • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 21:44

          Haha and fortunately back then we dealt with a fraction of the average amount of data we deal with now

  • djones145 on 12/03/2019 - 10:13

    hmmm tempted
    just want something simple for work from home and sometimes using it on the couch
    have a small dell 11 inch currently but its slowing down

    how much are htmi converters

  • Mitch889 on 12/03/2019 - 10:14
    +4

    These are a great machine for $800. Shame they don't have the 256GB models at the same price like they've had in the past, but for many the 128GB/4GB would be just fine.

    • escalier on 12/03/2019 - 11:52
      +1

      I think it's a bit more complicated than that, looking at what's available for 1.1k~ I kind of find it hard to recommend unless the workload will be super light and you like the design. That being said I bought one the last time they were on sale, but it's mainly an RDP/web browsing station for me.

      • Mitch889 on 12/03/2019 - 15:29
        +1

        That describes a substantial portion of the populations work loads. Web browsing and documents. A great design, exceptional touch screen display, a nice keyboard and enough performance, great choice for $800.

  • hopper on 12/03/2019 - 10:40

    can u watch 2k content on it as the screen is fantastic on these.

  • ChatCPT on 12/03/2019 - 10:46

    Can this be picked up from Microsoft store? Going overseas on Saturday and would like to pick it up from the Microsoft Store in Sydney CBD

    • [Deactivated] on 12/03/2019 - 11:52

      click and collect

      • ChatCPT on 12/03/2019 - 12:01

        thats auspost parcel pickup. looking for pickup from store option

  • Msattar on 12/03/2019 - 10:55
    +1

    5% off eBay gift cards deal… Is it still on? Where can I purchase em from?

  • Gleung on 12/03/2019 - 11:17

    Hi OP, just want ot clarify, the GST refund on TRS would be $72.65 (1/11 of $799)?

    Also, hopefully this is eligible for AMEX rebate ($100 on $500 purchase) for those registered for the offer? (Edit: Probably not eligible on Micriosoft eBay! :-()

    Great find!

    • Samsungnote10 on 12/03/2019 - 11:33

      TRS based on invoice price, invoice comes through as $999

      I doubt the Amex rebate works since you are buying through ebay

      • Gleung on 12/03/2019 - 11:56

        Thanks. That's really good to know. I just hope (wish!) the AMEX rebate does work as I have no clue of eBay discounted gift cards (as yet) :P

  • drucey on 12/03/2019 - 11:47
    +4

    Great laptop for the everyday user. I bought my girlfriend one, knowing her usage patterns. She loves it; screen is fantastic and it looks and feels high end. It's a real head turner at this price.

  • tanastra on 12/03/2019 - 11:57
    +2

    Loves monitor quality and size, quick boot , track pad, battery life , built quality . Hates No SD ports and any ports for external Monitor . Overall, great computer for kids BYOD.

    • nickyd84 on 12/03/2019 - 14:53
      -3

      As if kids need a $800 laptop!!

      • tanastra on 12/03/2019 - 14:56
        +1

        Not bad For at least 2-3 years usages , and Better than BYOD MacBook Air that cost more than $1100

  • cerealsmok3r on 12/03/2019 - 12:01

    Is this cheaper than the good guys commercial access price? or am i confusing it with another model.

    • DrABCDEFG on 12/03/2019 - 13:20

      the commercial access one was surface laptop 2 which is newer.

  • djones145 on 12/03/2019 - 12:11
    +1

    got it thanks op!

  • ih8un on 12/03/2019 - 12:20
    +4

    Damn OP, need to sit this one out. I was specifically looking for an FBI database compatible laptop.

  • Viper8 on 12/03/2019 - 12:21
    +2

    128GB storage and 4GB RAM in a premium laptop in 2019…mainstream flagship mobile phones have the same if not more.

    • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 12:47
      +2

      People thought 4gb wasn't enough back in 2010 too, funny how it's still enough to do majority of basic things, also funny how perceptions of how much ram people need has changed so much now. People think you need a 32gb ram monster to browse reddit these days.

      • Viper8 on 12/03/2019 - 14:47
        -2

        With nothing open whatsoever aside from OS and AV W10 uses 3.5GB. You need 8GB for light use, 16GB if you game or do a lot of multi-tasking. No one over the age of 12 ever seriously said you need 32GB for browsing.

        • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 14:53

          Open Chrome, open word, what does it say now? I understand where you are coming from, but you are wrong, for light use 4gb is fine. I'm doing light dev work on my old surface 15/4gb/128gb and I can do it fine. I'm pretty sure if I can do dev work, people can open chrome and word.

          • Viper8 on 12/03/2019 - 15:40

            @onlinepred: With a few of them (typical browsing) it says 5GB………..
            You can also get by on HDD's instead of SSD's. Likewise Celeron CPU's instead of i5's/i7's. But the experience is severely compromised. If you run a AV, 4GB is simply not enough. Fact.

            • onlinepred on 12/03/2019 - 15:43

              @Viper8: Man what AV you running, sounds terrible. Fact I'm using 4gb device for dev right now no issues.

              Mechanical HDD's is a HUGE perormance decrease on SSD so you cannot compare. Same goes for Celeron lol. The only reason you might need more than 4gb is if you run a terrible AV app, or if you need to do more than web browsing and general app stuff like office - if so you will not notice any performance difference. Fact. Case closed. Thanks.

              • Viper8 on 12/03/2019 - 15:48

                @onlinepred: So in summary, if you only open 1 thing at a time to avoid exceeding physical memory, you will not have an issues.
                Kind of missed the issue where you can only have 1 thing open at a time lol.

                • onlinepred on 14/03/2019 - 09:22

                  @Viper8: I have multiple things open right now with 4gb with no issues, again, perhaps you need to get someone who knows computers to have a look at your laptop, possibly remove the AV.

      • ozbargainer88 on 12/03/2019 - 16:37
        +1

        4GB is absolutely fine for Windows 10, Chrome, O365 and media consumption.

        Paired with an i5 and SSD, the performance will be great.

        B-but muh PC is using more than 4GB of RAM!!! Yes, if you have more than 4GB of RAM, Windows will use it if available. If not, it will run perfectly fine with only 4GB.

    • Kampfer on 12/03/2019 - 13:09

      I won't any laptop rrp under $1k "premium laptop". Mainstream flagship mobile phones now is way over $1k.

      • Viper8 on 12/03/2019 - 14:48

        They market it as a premium laptop…

  • Willy Stains on 12/03/2019 - 12:31

    Does anybody know if it comes with an micro SD slot?

    • sghetti on 12/03/2019 - 12:39
      +2

      No, it has 1 USB3 port, you could use that?

      Only ports are 1 x USB3, 1 x Mini Displayport, 1 x Headphone Jack and 1 x proprietary charging port. The powerpack also has a USB port on it, but this is for charging only, no data.

  • daven1985 on 12/03/2019 - 12:34
    +5

    A great laptop. I bought 140 of them in December.

    But I agree… 4GB and 128GB is not enough. These devices are not upgradable (yes other companies than Apple do this).

    • Samsungnote10 on 12/03/2019 - 12:34
      +1

      Can I have one of your 140?

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