Seagate 4TB Expansion Hard Drive $99
Thought the 4TB was a good price.
Catalog deal page 25 starts 05/12/19
Seagate Expansion Desktop Hard Drive 4TB
Model:
STEB4000300
SKU:718556
*** Deal is now live using the “Go to Deal” ***
Catalog link… https://catalogue.jbhifi.com.au/2019/12/05-dec-urjj/index.ht…
Done
Any bigger ones?
Seagate 5TB Expansion Portable Hard Drive $179….. ( seen better price before)
Any smaller ones?
Any same size ones?
Anyone have good experience with Seagate?
I see a lot of people saying it should be avoided and you should go for WD instead.
I just want to use it for super casual use, so you think this one should be fine? (I was hoping for deals on 1tb and 2tb but it never happens)
If by "super casual" you mean it won't be a disaster for you if it dies, then I don't see why not. I'm not saying it will die (I haven't really dug into the Seagate v WD debate at all, off the top of my head I couldn't even tell you what the ones I've got at home are, for all I know I've got a mixture of both), but this seems like a good price for 4Tb. If you're using it for something like expansion storage for a console then why not - if it dies you'll just have the inconvenience of having to download your stuff again after buying a replacement.
If you're talking about important stuff like irreplaceable photos, important legal documents, or you're using it as your primary storage for running a business… well, a USB drive probably isn't the place for those things, regardless of whether it's Seagate, WD or anything else.
na, nothing important just random stuff on there so my laptop's hard drive has some breathing room.
Thanks for the advice, I'll buy it now.
It'll be cheaper if you wait and buy it tomorrow :p
@gamerkonks: Lol I want to support local Australian business ok? But not our pal Gerry
Also original link was to portable one, not interested in the desktop one sadly :/
I've had a pretty good experience with them overall.
I’ve had a pretty bad experience with them overall.
I’ve had experiences with them.
Yeah I have had many Seagate drives fail. Internal and external, not just the drive but ports and ac adaptor too. Build quality seems lacking in every aspect. I'm sure it does happen to similar WD products but not anywhere near as often. I think these should be only for light usage more like archive and backup where it's not on for long periods.
I'm fortunate in that I haven't had any drives fail - one 2TB seagate internal, one 2TB seagate shucked for my ps4, 2*3TB toshibas internal, and a few WD and seagate external portables. A few years ago, Seagate did have some dodgy 3tb that were to be avoided.
I think it's important to look after the drive (eg not toss it around) and have backups.
Was true back in the day, but now days it's an even failure rate in most cases.
I’ve had multiple Seagate drives, internal and external, die. I’ve owned less Seagate drives than WD, but have had twice as many failures. But then, I run them 24/7.
They also do poorly in Backblaze reports, with failure rates of >2% per quarter compared to <1% for HGST (WD).
But for light tasks, shifting data between computers or doing a weekly backup for a PC, they should be fine. Just don’t put all your data on any single drive, Seagate or otherwise.
Thanks, that blackblaze report website was really useful. Crazy how much higher the failure rate is compared to WD. However, failure rate is 2% so I can live with that.
Also like you said, I'd imagine this is with intense usage
While HGST is owned by WD it's unfair to say it's representative of WD since HGST was an acquisition. From memory the failure rates for WD were the same as seagates except for one drive that was at 2% and WD actually had some models in the 5% range. Backblaze don't seem to use WD anymore so they aren't a good metric for comparing the brands.
They haven’t used stock WD for a while (other than some older drives on their last legs with very high failure rates as a result).
When they did have a solid fleet of WD drives, back in 2014, they performed well:
https://www.infoworld.com/article/2873683/western-digital-hg…
They’re adding new WD drives soon so the battle will be back on.
But really, HGST drives have been so solid for so long, they’re still the smart choice.
Bought 2 500gb drives as part of a bulk deal back in the day. Both turned up dead in the box.
Only ever used WD since.
I've got four Seagate Expansion Portable drives I use for backups and haven't had issues with any of them. I've used a mix of WD and Seagate over the years - both internal and external - and the only one I've ever had fail early was an external desktop WD drive, but that's just the luck of the draw.
Both brands are fine - buy whatever is cheapest at the time, and always have multiple copies of any important data on different drives.
All hard drives fail eventually - never treat them as a permanent storage solution.
All hard drives are fine if you follow a proper backup protocol, all hard drives are terrible if you don't.
3 copies of anything important, minimum. One off site.
never had an issue with my seagates. just use them for very occasional data backup / hard disk cleanup
Both brands have the same reliability
Don't listen to people's paranoia because Seagate drives are perfectly fine. Yes they did have a bad batch of drives a few years ago but that is no more.
A subtle breeze flows from them. After entering the gate you defintely don't want to go for a Non-Seagate experience. I find them a bit sandy and salty, but you do get that when going to the sea. If you're on the fence about it then this probably won't help.
I have been using these drives for over two years to run my Plex server.. Never had a problem.. still going strong
OP, do u mind clarify whether it's portable or the desktop one?
sorry, but your description and link is inconsistent.
JB Hi-Fi link clearly says desktop. Officeworks has this same deal for a while back, picked up two.
do u have JB's new catalog?
OP 1st linked to the portable one, $99 for 4TB is a great price
since then, OP or Mod changed to the desktop one, which makes it okay deal as $99 for 4TB is a regular price in OW…
In their OEM cases or shucked and put into a NAS/server?
Is there a link to the catalog??
Not yet.. check the webpage tomorrow.
gonna get it, gonna shuck it
Are these ones shuckable?
Looks like it https://mattgadient.com/how-to-shuck-the-seagate-expansion-4…
You void warranty though.
Good info. I didn't know it would void the warranty. :P
I think that's the portable drive?
@robertm: The original post was for this https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/seagate-expansion-portabl…
Yes
Needs to be plugged into power as well as USB?
No, USB powered.
Not for these 'portable' ones, no. The 'desktop' ones of each brand generally have a separate power supply, usually because they're the bigger 3.5" drives inside.
This is the larger 3.5" desktop drive. It's AC powered.
Looks like earlier the link was for the portable version, it has since been changed to the desktop version which requires extra power.
How can external drive cheaper than the internal hdd these days?
People buy more external drives than internal drives. So the price reflects the competition.
That true.
Fact is, I can undo the case and use as internal drive while most 4TB internal hdd is around $140 - $175. That why I was puzzled.
Yup, and I will probably buy two.
@Caped Baldy: Seagate 8TB Expansion Desk $215 $26.80 per TB
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B01HAPGEIE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i…
Seagate 10TB Expansion Desk $267 $26.70 per TB
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B07NPMMZ8C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i…
Both slightly more exxy per TB but depending on the use case SATA ports can be so valuable. I have a 10 drive unraid server and I’m currently in the process of going from all 4TB drives to 10TB drives.
Used plenty of shucked seagates they are usually baraacudas and I haven’t had one failure the oldest is coming up to 8-9 years and millions of reads and writes
Maybe because these external drives seem to all be 5400rpm and slower?
PORTABLE (as linked) or DESKTOP (as in headline)?
No deal if the latter. Who wants 3.5" drives in 2019 when SSD is so fast, and 2.5" is better in every other way, but costs only slightly more?
Link is to portable drive…
Can't find the catalogue to confirm though
I guess the main thing behind it is price.
5TB for $99, to have the 4TB SSD you will spend around $800
I used to have a 3TB WD connected with my Xbox. I've upgraded to an 1TB NVMe mainly because my new 2 kittens jumping around —- HDD and impact does not end well.
Price over SSD, sure.
But vs 2.5 is not much these days. 3TB for $99.
It used to be a lot more. Soon 3.5" will go the way of 5.25" and 8" drives, etc.
The 4TB drives are already rare, and larger ones are being replaced by 2.5" RAID enclosures.
And 2.5" (laptop) drives are far more kitten-resistant than 3.5 :-)
(link was wrong, changed to desktop drive)
3.5" aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Much better storage to value ratio. Cheaper to produce.
I think 3.5 still has a long way to go. If you work with IT like me, they are still more reliable than SSDs in my opinion.
I built a server where the SO is installed on a SSD but the data and everything else is storage in 2 Red WD with some protection from the factory.
A HDD tells you when it is dying. Ask any "old IT guy —- I'm 30 and been working last 9y with IT" who never opened a HDD to manually move the write-read head and was able to save the data?
OR the board burned, you buy a second hand one with exactly the same model, serie, swap them, and the HDD is back to life?
SSD? Well, you need to be luck enough to undo the welding from the memory to place it in some miracle board to read the data OR have some machine that can connect to its pins to force a reading. If, only if, you are luck enough and have a couple of thousands dollars to burn with the service.
I don't trust an SSD the same way I trust an HDD. I do use SSDs now but everything is in the cloud. With HDD I never bother myself that much.
SSD vs HDD is like compare cars nowadays with the ones from 90s. 90s could be fixed with almost anything, anyone as long as you have basic knowledge. Nowadays?? Well, everything has a computer onboard, and the maintenance bill reaches the sky.
This is a legit question, is it desktop or portable?
Cannot say a desktop is on special and then have the link go to a laptop can you?
Hmm seems the deal is for the desktop version now… sigh
Ok, so I won't be getting this then. Sweet.
Have you checked the price of 4tb ssd’s? Slightly more as in like $800 more?
Dammit just bought one for my Xbox one last weekend, double down and go total of 9TB? Lol
My 3TB is almost full on my XB1X so you'll probably need it eventually :P
Game Pass makes it REAL easy to fill HDDs lol. I think I've got maybe 4Tb just for Game Pass games on my PC, not including Steam/Epic/Rockstar installs
Consider it this way; you're bringing your average cost per Tb down! So you're… saving money per Tb, technically
Yeah I have game pass and the amount of games I have been downloading is madness. Especially with the OneX and all the 4K textures etc these games have. Forza 6/7 Horizon 3 and 4 are like 400gb together. Plus Halo 5 is 100+ gb. THEN all the gears too…
My PC is filling up fast too from game pass. Man… I don’t really need it but damned if I don’t…
Quantum Break is like 170GB if you pre-download the cutscenes. I find XB1 games are much bigger than PS4 games with install sizes. Game Pass has completely filled up my external too.
Wrong drive dude.
Yeah the title was changed. It said portable before, now it says desktop
yep. ta.
You will have to keep waiting as it's portable from your link vs the desktop from OP's JB hi-fi deal.
Correct.
The drive OP mentioned is desktop, and out of stock, end of line.
https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/seagate-4t…
Sorry, non gamer here, need for my son but How do these differ to the ones specifically for Xbox and PS4?
From my understanding there is no difference since ps4 technical support any types of usb 3.0 device.
Thank you for your response. I just purchased both game specific ones. Will return them then.
There is no difference, its marketed like this so the dummies pay more. The same way they market some hard drives as specific mac drives and usually charge more - when really its the exact same hardware and product its just been formatted differently.
upgraded my PS4 hdd from 500gb to 2TB using a Seagate portable drive (shucked) which only lasted 2 weeks… the casing wasn't damaged when removing the drive so I was able to re-case it and return it under warranty.
can it be used as a xbox one external hd? Ive been using a Toshiba 2TB portable for my xbox one for more than two years and it works really well. Just as more good games in ultimate pass 3TB is not enough at all for me. it's the time to. expand it to 4TB. some reviews say WD passport is better for xbox but it's not on sale atm. any suggestions? thanks
Will it work? - of course
Is WD better for Xbox? - debatable, possibly. If it is better, it would be ridiculously marginal.
By WD instead of this. WD is more reliable than Seagate.
I had a WD 3TB connected with mine, never had one problem with it. Now I have 1TB NVMe connected with my 1TB One X for speed reasons.
I play specifics games such as Call of Duty, Tomb Raider, Battlefield, Forza, and sell them once I finish.
I do have Game Pass but I will probably never use that sh1t, so no need to huge disk space.
Oh, this is desktop not portable.
Not that great of a deal when you regularly get 8tb for around ~200
Link to to portable version, but description is in doubt so we need confirmation first.
I have already pulled the trigger on that 8Tb anyway, but the more space the merrier!
Seagate Expansion Desktop Hard Drive 4TB
Model:
STEB4000300
SKU:
718556
Catalog arrived in the mailbox today
Thanks for confirming - and glad you've updated the listing too
no longer there
Nice price. I grabbed a few when Officeworks had them at this price a few weeks ago
The drive inside is $149 at MSY!
Price and Store in title