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Business nbn Plans 500/200Mbps $319/Month, 1000/400Mbps $429/Month (Was $699) at Aussie Broadband

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Aussie broadband has new, incredible, no amazing! NBN plans for the low, low price of 8-10x the average cost of a NZ FTTP 4000/4000Mbps plans at $179NZD. https://myrepublic.net/nz/hyperfibre/.

I mean for only $429AUD for 1000/400Mbps, bargain!

This is a deal because “They were over $699 a month so it’s a saving of $200+“

Must have FTTP connection. Static line included.

“ Actual speeds on FTTN/B technology type to be confirmed upon connection. For more information on nbn™ speeds see here.
Plans above 250/100Mbps have a 250Mbps download shaping profile applied from 6pm to 12am AEST Plans above 100/40 Mbps only available on FTTP Fibre build cost may apply pending site qualification check.”

https://techau.com.au/aussie-broadband-selling-1gps-400mbps-…

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  • +51

    Pretty sad that I’m paying $39.95 for a cable connection giving me 500mbps

    • +128

      You’re missing out on some serious tech over here in NBN land mate. I have some of the worlds best copper.

      • +2

        Just a fantastic quote! Well said.

      • -3

        Cable is copper?

        • +1

          HFC coax is a steel core with a copper cladding, polyurethane, and aluminium shielding

          • @spaceflight: Yeah you right, HFC most probably the worst NBN tech around. Constant drop-outs and intermittent issues. Bring back the ADSL!

            • +1

              @Razoot: My HFC has been faultless in WA. Old Foxtel/Telstra Cable, The transition went from 114/2 to 95/36 and hardly any noticeable dropouts. Does anyone know the fastest speed NBN HFC can support long term?

            • @Razoot: I never said anything like that.

              I've had HFC NBN for a year and it's much better, faster and has less dropouts (none) than my ADSL did.

            • @Razoot: Absolute rubbish. I'm paying $39.95pm and get a minimum of 250Mbps down during busy periods and up to 500mbps down. I've never had a single drop-out and ping is just about as good as FttP at 5ms (iinet HFC). My other house is on NBN HFC and always gets 94 to 98Mvps and never had a drop out.
              FttN is the worse fixed line tech on NBN hands down. The majority of users cannot get more than 50Mbps and many stuck on 25Mbps. Stats on the ACCC site.

          • +1

            @spaceflight: Source?
            Coax cable usually has a copper core as this is a better conductor of electricity.
            I'm aware of the other layers. My point was that coax ultimately relies on copper, same as a twisted pair in ADSL (read both of the original comments and you'll understand the reason for my comment).

            • +1

              @Viper8: Have you seen the guage of the copper on a HFC core cable in the street with huge shielding, compared to regular copper without any shielding? The technology is nothing alike. Distance from a node isn't really a factor with a drop in speed with HFC. NBN have installed more Fibre Nodes with HFC to service fewer homes to maintain speeds and DOCSIS 4.0 bonding tech can deliver phonomenal speeds on HFC, unlike FttN.
              Best delivery methods for the NBN regarding speeds are:
              1) FttP
              2) HFC
              3) FttC
              4) FttN

              • +4

                @[Deactivated]: FTTC is much better than HFC. With FTTC you've only got a few meters until you're connected to fibre. HFC is very prone to congestion, which is why some people say it's "great" and other say it's a steaming hot piece of shit. Just depends on the area.

                FTTC is also wayyyyyyy cheaper to upgrade to FTTP because the fibre is already literally at your driveway already.

                • @PainToad:

                  FTTC is much better than HFC

                  I used to think this too, as well as placing FTTB a few tiers above HFC. What I don't get is why the incoming Gigabit plans will only be for FTTP and HFC.

                  • +1

                    @ChillBro:

                    FTTC is much better than HFC

                    I used to think this too, as well as placing FTTB a few tiers above
                    HFC. What I don't get is why the incoming Gigabit plans will only
                    be for FTTP and HFC.

                    I used to think that too! But my FTTC connection varies between 80 and 105 Mbps, which translates to a SpeedTest result of 72 to 93 (where 93 is a perfect result).

                    Now I see why Telstra isn’t selling 100 megabit plans anymore. FTTC can’t even guarantee a lousy 100 connection. Ironically, I used to live at an FTTN house that had 140 easily.

                    • @ckent: That's surprising to me. Is that dependent on time of day? If so wouldn't that be solved by switching to a provider that doesn't oversell bandwidth?

                  • @ChillBro: fttc requires gfast, to potentially hit 1Gbps, and is slowly being rolled out over the fttc footprint.

              • @[Deactivated]: omg… I have FTTN… On top of that, I'm still currently in an ADSL with DSLAM that is almost on the boundary (meaning far away from exchanges).

                Oh internet Gods, why I keep getting sh1znit connection… I thought NBN will lift my curse…

                Is there any hope for my neighbourhood in the future mate? Is there any upgrade from FTTN or am I pretty much screwed for quite sometimes in the future until we get the next upgrade? (maybe 20-30 years down the line LOL)

                Feeling down mens :(

                • @WillKillfor5Cents: Don't expect a free upgrade anytime soon. The upgrade from FTTN is to pay thousands of dollars for FTTP.

                • +1

                  @WillKillfor5Cents: Your two options for FTTN is that if your house is relatively close to the node you can pay for upgrade to FTTP. I've seen a few success stories on whirlpool, from what I have seen it was between 15k-20k so may need to take a loan or remortage. If you are far away from the node I'm not sure how much it could cost you, probably be cheaper to move house.

                  Only other option is to use a wireless technology if it's available in your area or use 4G/5G.

                  • +1

                    @Agret: Thanks @agret and @twix. Appreciate the input. I don't think I'm in position to fork up such sum at the moment.

                    Perhaps if it's so unbearable, I guess the only option I have is to move away at some point. It's a shame, as I really liked the area. But I work full time from a home office.

              • @[Deactivated]: So what you're saying is that yes, the core is in fact copper. Thanks.

                • +1

                  @Viper8: It's not copper. In the vast majority of solid-core coaxial cables, the core is either steel or aluminium, with a very thin coating of copper.

                  Making the core be solid copper would increase the cost, for no benefit. In fact it would be worse having a solid-copper core for aerial-strung coax, because the steel core functions as a strength member. Copper would stretch and eventually break.

                  Read up on "skin effect", for radio-frequency signals almost all of the current flows in the outermost layer of the cable:
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect

                  Here's an on-line calculator for how thick the copper coating needs to be:
                  https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/tools/skin-depth-calculator…
                  Entering "copper" and "100MHz" gives a result of 6.52um, that's 0.00652mm. So for a typical HFC cable with a core of about 2mm diameter, the signal travels in the outermost ~1% of the core. That outermost 1% of the core is made of copper, the rest of the core is aluminium or steel.

    • +2

      Isn't it great? :D

    • +1

      Better than $300/mth for 5/5 actual on a 3yr contract.

      • Satellite?

      • nbn Business Enterprise Ethernet?

        • This, but 8 wire variant.

          • @Ulysses31: Price from TPG not too bad, I think for NBN EE you will pay definitely more than $300 for 10/10.

    • +2

      I miss Geelong for that reason :(

    • +8

      Pay $25/month for 1000/1000 unlimited… in Canada atm.

      • +14

        How's your mobile phone bill?

        • One thing I don't miss about living in Canada. I mean, there's a lot of things but insanely high mobile costs are definitely up there.

        • I'm paying $10/month, but I get FREE CALLER ID!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Where in Canada and with which provider. One could only wish we could get that here. Price and speeds!

    • 3 months before they force me off cable and too NBN

      • +2

        Forced of cable to the same cable?

        • Plenty of Telstra HFC addresses that currently have this installed will be moved to FttC. Depends on the area.
          My neighbours apartment block has Telstra HFC and are currently being moved to FttC.

    • Where? I'm on Telstra cable.

      Isn't everyone being forced soon tho? I keep getting letter's.

      • You have 12 months after NBN arrives in your area to move to it. Unless you are in an iiNet HFC area and you would be mad to move to NBN as it's an inferior product with no FttP NBN in those areas.

  • +8

    Paying $70/month for 50mbps on NBN. Meanwhile my phone reached 290mbps on Telstra 4G when I wanted to test if I had enough bandwidth to join a teleconference the other day…

    • +11

      Wish i could get 30Mbps with FTTN. Being in IT really frustrates me that I built a new house only 2 yrs ago and they cannot provide me fibre to my house. I am almost 1km away from the node which results is poor speeds.

      • This is me too, except in an old house.

      • May be a really bad line, i'm around 6-700m and originally got around 90/37 but has slowed of late (hopefully temporarily) to around 80/35

      • +102

        93% of Australians having FTTP would take too long! It would take until 2021, whereas the liberal party will have it done by 2016 2019 probably 2020 at a cost of $8B less $14B more!

        And all you'll do is watch Netflix anyway, who could imagine a huge demand for video capability and remote working? Would never happen.

        • +22

          And thanks to the LNP grovelling to Netflix et al to throttle their videos to protect the wonderful NBN we get the luxury of watching Netflix at 1mbs no matter the plan you pay for. Thanks a bunch Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull and Scott Morrison you guys sure know how to plan for the future.

          • @twjr: what? really? I didnt know about this. I upgraded to the 4k plan as i was planning on getting some 4k gear soon. So the bitrate / streaming is that low?

            • @lonewolf: Yes it's seriously bad at the moment thanks to Covid19 throttling. The highest bitrate I've seen on Netflix in the last few weeks is 1.5mbs, no 4k. Not sure if it's just my connection but I've seen other similar complaints online. I suspect the LNP will use this crisis to cement some of their agendas long term and it wouldn't surprise me to see this temporary measure stick around for a while.

      • Less than 25mbps means a fault they have to attend to. Yes, fttn sucks… But we're stuck with it.

        • +9

          That's not quite true. If an area still has adsl, nbn will only guarantee 12Mbs on fttn.

          The government used to say that everyone will get at least 25Mbs, but that idea was quietly dropped ages ago.

          • +2

            @pjetson: not true. once telstra's network is decommissioned, if you cannot get 25mbps (and not because you have poor house wiring), the NBN is compelled to upgrade you to technology which will make you get at least the floor speed. That used to mean FTTP, but may now mean FTTC.

            This was published only 4 months ago:
            https://www.itnews.com.au/news/nbn-co-upgrades-small-portion…

            • +2

              @kabammi: If you read the whole article, it says it's only an "expectation of 25mbs", and that fewer than 5% of some older figure of 60,000 premises who cannot get 25mbs are still unable to get it by the "deadline" of mid 2020.

              There are whole suburbs that are still stuck on crap fttn technology over ancient copper wires, and whole suburbs that are currently being built out right now with fttn infrastructure that everyone agrees will not reach 25mbs for large numbers of residents.

              I can't see anywhere in your article where it says that nbn is compelled to do anything for these people.

      • +40

        We had a chance, FTTP was offered all round, but Australia voted for copper instead.

        • -4

          it wasn’t a referendum on whether Australia should roll out FTTP everywhere. i don’t like where we are now but lets not simplify it that much.

          • +50

            @ltwo: Oh yeah it was, it was a major part of the election campaign on both sides, NBNs cost, and speed of rollout. Its why when the LNP got in, all existing contracts were renegotiated, cancelled etc. We already gave Telstra 11 billion to buy back the governments copper to replace it with optic, but you know, lets keep that copper. It was all opposition for the sake of opposition. NBN as planned, was spot on to the technology. They just didnt want Rudds stimulus to be remembered or have lasting benefits. Politics today is a meme. Youre speaking in tidbits out of synch with history.

            We arent any different regardless which flavour of Lib Lab party was in office, except for NBN.

            If you think there a huge difference, they poo poo-ed Rudds effective GFC stimulus too. Funny how LNP today took a leaf from Rudds book of stimulus, to keep the economy ticking over during a difficult time, knowing that the cost of doing so is less than the cost of historical economic collapses and rebuilding.

            • -2

              @Tuba: If the only policy that mattered during an election is speed of broadband, then we will all have 1000Mbps connections. But reality is the ALP just couldn't get their act together with all the leadership spills, so the LNP won.

          • +2

            @ltwo: That was a major part of it, but it seems like the majority wanted to "stop the boats" instead, so we could all prosper into the future.

            • +2

              @AlanHB: The election essentially came down to

              1) What did Australia want to spend on NBN
              2) Would they rather have Gillard/Rudd or Abbott sitting on the throne (i.e it was a popularity contest for the leaders)

              That was basically the media circus at the time. I don't think too many people cared about the boats really, it just fuelled number 2 above one way or another.

              • +12

                @Smigit: You're incorrect. "Stop the boats" was front and centre of that election campaign, successfully appealing to Australia's fear and racism.

                "The boats" were pretty much liberals only plans for the future, with the exception of "undo whatever Labor does". I'd be very interested if someone could explain to be how exactly my life is different now, with the "boats stopped".

                • +1

                  @AlanHB:

                  if someone could explain to be how exactly my life is different now

                  Not to go into politics, just to clarify the logic: wasn't it the whole point, to keep status quo? Hence your life is no different : )

              • +3

                @Smigit: It was a climate change election also.. Rudd blinked by not going to a double dissolution election over the carbon tax. Basically showed he had no ticker and led to the Gillard coup - who then buried it. The mining tax was also nerfed by twiggy telling Gillard what to do.

                So you had a choice between two morally bankrupt parties - no wonder Abbott won. This remains the case today.

            • +7

              @AlanHB: Too bad they didn't stop the plague boats…

          • +8

            @ltwo:

            it wasn’t a referendum on whether Australia should roll out FTTP everywhere. i don’t like where we are now but lets not simplify it that much.

            Well the people had a choice - they could either stop the boats and hate the gays or get fast broadband. They chose stop the boats and hate the gays.

        • And I got it, get rekt.

        • +7

          Don't forget that evil Labor debt that "your grandkids would be paying off".

          (but please forget that the Liberals more than doubled that same debt after getting into power and never mentioned debt levels and grandkids again… ever)

          Oh… and now we are forking out $1500 per fortnight to everyone- including part timers who were earning less than a third of that prior.
          Awesome economic managers. Just awesome.

          • +3

            @UFO: Exactly this, then they started showing after the election "where your taxes were spent" in your tax return paperwork which showed that it was far from going all to debt. LNP spoke of Australia's debt like a home loan and since housing prices were all the talk people could understand it and get behind it. So by making it sound like we were in debt up to our eyeballs (Country with a triple a credit rating) the idea of a "Gold standard" internet infrastructure seemed ludicrous to a public where about 10-15% understood the value so people wanted their countries wallet clamped shut to pay off the debt…. We all know how well that's gone…

        • +1

          NBN Co almost done with their roll-out? NO
          They will have to start all-over and replace the bad FTTN to achieve the minimum of 25Mbps (yes that's what was promised).

          The issue, however, they will replace that with FTTC. Unfortunately still using copper as the last mile.

          We are still some years away from the powers-to-be to realise they should have just done FTTP from the start, because that is what needs to happen.
          Sorry guys we are at the mercy of the politicians.

          In the same breath I must commend NBN Co for managing the network 'on-crushes' this well with everyone working from home now.
          The networking is coping well with the new demand.

          Not too bad for a copper-base network.

          • +1

            @Razoot:

            The issue, however, they will replace that with FTTC. Unfortunately still using copper as the last mile.

            Wow! How many properties are a mile from the curb?

            • +1

              @emibel19: It’s a saying, or a technical term but not technically accurate. Just the last section.

              • +1

                @ckent: Yes, it's a common saying but only for FTTN, AFAIK. It makes very little sense to apply it to FTTC.

      • +4

        How bad do you want FTTP?

        Start emptying your wallet

      • +2
    • +7

      I myself gave up on nbn and got myself 4G/5G instead.

      • I went to 4G wireless broadband as well because NBN still hasn't been connected to my apartment building. It's 2020, FFS.

      • same. check how many downvotes I got during the last NBN deal posted lol

        who cares? 4g beats ADSL even during peak time, so I am happy

      • Same here. I'm getting 230Mbps down and 50 Mbps up on 4G

        • not great for gaming though right?

          • +16

            @tagin: Even if it wasn't too bad, if everyone used 4G, it would barely work.

            • +6

              @samfisher5986: It would collapse within hours if only another half-million households switched to 4g only.

              3g/4g/5g networks carry approx 5% of all Australian internet traffic, and they're already highly contended during peak times.

              The mismanagement of the NBN will end up costing Australians for decades, and all for a bit of political point-scoring. We will end up with a fibre network anyway, it's inevitable….but thanks to the Liberals we'll pay for it twice.

        • Hi, please let me know which provider you're with. Our NBN is delayed again to middle 2020, and we are St Kilda! Was holding out for 5G broadband plan but again, just on the borders of coverage. But those speeds are fantastic for 4G!

          • +3

            @Funky-munky: I'm on Optus 4G Wireless Broadband $68/month for 500GB cancel anytime free modem Huawei B818 included, if you cancel the plan within 24 months there's no penalty you only need to pay $9 x months left being the residual cost of the modem which being subsidised you can resell on eBay for a profit.

            https://www.optus.com.au/broadband-nbn/mobile-broadband/mode…

            • @bauser99: Thanks for that! I know speeds are relative to ones area, but what speeds do you get? Peak/off peak?

              • +1

                @Funky-munky: Usually 100/10 going down to 50/5 if there's congestion but I'm quite far from the tower (about 2 Kms) - as you pointed out it depends on the area / congestion / how far you are from the tower. If you have a mobile phone on Optus it would give you a good indication although the speed I get on my Huawei B818 is much higher than what I get with my iPhone X on Optus

      • +2

        What plan cost/limits are you on with 4G and who with?

    • Yeah my dirty old S8 does 350mbs on Optus 4g. I usually tether it to my pc to download big game updates lol

    • -2

      Labor's speed tiers bite again. For many people a mobile plan will be cheaper and faster if their monthly data requirements are under 100GB.

  • +13

    The lucky country

    • According to the ACCC NBN Wholesale Market Indicators Report at the end of December 2019, an incredible 1,351 users had opted for a 250/100Mbps connection out of a toal 1,422,645 FTTP connections.

      I doubt this will be very popular.

      • +3

        250/100 are extremely expensive. Aussie Broadband offer 250/25 and that's $169 a month. Gigabit speeds in other countries cost less…

        • +1

          Say they had symmetrical gigabit to the extent of Google Fibre in America for just shy of $100/month, I have a feeling that is what 80% of households will connect to, unless there is a significantly cheaper plan that offers most of the speed.

      • For home, absolutely agree. I'm helping a mate set up a coworking space business (pre covid plan) and hgih speed internet is critical, so OP actually shared a decent deal vs alternatives IMO

  • Does it work on FTTC?

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