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[VIC] Audi Q7 MY19 Audi Q7 160KW (45TDI) $84,990 Drive-away (RRP $101,900) @ Audi Doncaster

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Audi Q7 run-out
Drive away from $84,990*
Receive unprecedented pricing on all new and demonstrator MY19 Audi Q7 models.

Drive away from $84,990* and we will also include:
5 years/ 75,000km (whichever comes first) complimentary servicing^
5 years extended warranty#.

Offer only available May 1 - June 30.

Pricing is based on MY19 Audi Q7 160KW (45TDI) Variant with no factory options. Price may vary dependant on accessories and options fitted on in-stock vehicles. ^5 years from the date of first registration or 75,000kms (whichever occurs first). Complimentary Scheduled Servicing provided at Audi Dealerships only. Excludes wear and tear items and any additional work or components required. #5-year extended warranty consists of 3 year manufacturer warranty and 2 year Audi extended warranty. Available on selected new and demonstrator MY19 Audi Q7 vehicles in stock at Audi Centre Doncaster (offer excludes SQ7) purchased between 01/05/2020 and 30/06/2020 and delivered by 30/06/2020. Not available to fleet, gov’t or rental buyers, or with any other offers. Audi Centre Doncaster may withdraw, change or extend these offers. While stock lasts.

Im in the market for a nice SUV, as the wife demands. Understand this is the old model, but I don't mind it, as I was shopping second hand anyway. This offer is actually cheaper than some of the 2nd ones on the market. This comes with 5 years warranty and servicing, which are huge advantages.

Does anyone have any experiences with the current/old Q7 model in terms of reliability and others? Thanks in advance.

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  • +21 votes

    This or Holden Equinox?

    • +5 votes

      Holden equinox of course

    • q7 for me, the tech is superb. if you are going for size, i guess the patrol and equinox are that big..

    • Suzuki ignis maybe?

    • If you’re planing to keep it for longer than a couple of years don’t buy either. Euros will send you broke on maintenance costs plus depreciation is a joke and Holden’s are junk even with the warranty. Buy Japanese or Korean.

      • I owned a Camry once, for years. It didn't even have the decency to break down on me so I had an excuse to replace it. Buy Japanese or Korean if cost of ownership and reliability are your main criteria, but these aren't everyone's main criteria, and probably not Q7 buyers' main criteria.

        • Haha I won’t even start on people who buy these junkers for image and can’t afford to keep them on the road when they inevitably fall apart.

          • @Roger Ramjet: That was me and my Audi A4. Bought it because it was fully spec'd and looked great. What a hunk of crap that was. The day the warranty ended it started falling apart. Lost over $60k once you factor in repairs and depreciation. Very happy with my little trouble-free Mazda 3.
            EDIT; $60k over two years I should add. Bought it at 3 years old with 2 years warranty and a full Audi service history.

            • @fluffymurderball: This is the usual story. They look cool, they drive nice and you gain some street cred but the cost on your wallet is substantial.

              They’re built to last… as long as the warranty period and then they fall apart. It’s planned failure to keep manufacturing costs as low as possible.
              For example, during the warranty period it is expected the car will start 10 thousand times, so the starter motor is designed to last 12 thousand starts and no more as that would require a larger cost to build and manufacture.

              Euros are designed and then built to a cost whereas Japanese and Koreans design it to be built to a cost. There is a very big difference in quality.

            • @fluffymurderball: what was the worst thing you had to replace on your audi? it wasn't covered during the remaining 2 year warranty?

              • @godofpizza: The transmission control module, I had the 8sp CVT. Died one month out of warranty (5 years and 1 month car age), cost $8500. There was no way around it either, the transmission just shat itself. Turns out the solenoid failed, could have sent it off to the US to repair, but been without the car for a few weeks. Would have only cost $4000 in labour then instead of $8500 inc parts.

                The other one that sucked was the door lock motors. All four were replaced during the warranty, two replaced out of warranty at $450 each, two more on the way out.

            • @fluffymurderball: Pretty sure you meant R8. Username checks out

            • @fluffymurderball: Dont you have an R8? I say you on TV driving an r8

          • @Roger Ramjet: I have been driving Euros for years, and these days the maintenance cost is not too far worse than a Japanese car - particularly if you find yourself a qualified mechanic instead of taking it to your dealer after your warranty expires.

            Add to that, with all of the electronics and CVT transmissions that are now going in to Japanese cars, their reliability is going south.

            The stigma of the 80s and 90s attached to European cars needs to die, and die quickly. There are some black sheep (i.e., Volkswagen), but reliability wise, here's an example for you - 70% of all Porsches ever built are still on the road. Obviously an Audi isn't quite a Porsche, but nor is it a Volkswagen.

            • @Galvatron: Coming from a Euro that cost me $45k in maintenance within a year of warranty failing, my experience is drastically different. The experience of everyone else I know with Audi's had similar issues. Not as bad as mine, but definitely bad.

              Their reputation for being junk is well earned and needs to be maintained.

              • @fluffymurderball: It's a shame that you've had such a bad experience, but amongst all of my friends and family, the only issues faced have been with Volkswagens that have been well documented as being troublesome (i.e., those with recalls etc).

            • +2 votes

              @Galvatron: Sounds like someone bought a euro …

              • @Tuba: I would have thought the opening words of my comment ("I have been driving Euros for years") would have made it very clear that I have indeed bought a Euro, and several of them over the years as a matter of fact.

                • @Galvatron: …which is why I reduced your comment to its salient point. Defensiveness.

                  • @Tuba: I apologise for having an opinion within a comments section of an online website and contributing to the discussion.

                    As you haven't expressed either an opinion nor contributed, I can see why this bothers you…

            • @Galvatron: Don’t be fooled by the brand image as it’s usually more of an mirage. An Audi is exactly a Volkswagen, same company, often the same parts underneath and same business model.

              The business model of designing an awesome car and then building for the cheapest price possible hasn’t changed since the 80s and 90s.

              • @Roger Ramjet: Some models use the same platforms, yes, however not all of them. The Q7 is built on a platform that was only used by Porsche and Audi until the VW Phideon came along.

                The transmission, which is the major reason a Volkswagen has issues, is also not the same. This applies to several other components of the car. A Porsche PDK for example has not been the cause of issues and recalls whilst the Volkswagen DSG has.

                And what has changed since the 80s and 90s is that the cost of maintaining a European car is not nearly as exorbitant as it was.

                Some people, myself included, want to consider these cars. Their research shouldn't be clouded by people slagging them off as 'posers', or painting an image of maintenance costs based on assumption rather than experience.

                • @Galvatron: The fact that you have to repeatedly use Porsche as your examples. Really shows that even you know every other Euro is unreliable ;)

                  • @bobjane: Or perhaps it simply shows that the last European car I purchased was a Porsche, and that unlike most in this comments section, I prefer to speak from experience rather than assumption.

                    The two previous were an Audi A3 and a VW Jetta. The A3 running costs, outside of the 95 octane petrol, were largely equivalent to the similarly aged Corolla it is now parked next to in my fathers driveway. The only big(ger) ticket item in servicing for 200,000km now has been the gearbox oil that dual clutch transmissions require - but it has had as many of those as the Corolla has had replacement clutches (as it's a manual).

                    The Jetta. Well, no mechanical issues and equivalent running costs to the Audi and Corolla. But I don't think very highly of VW quality control - many of their cars (including this one) having issues with door locks etc, the sorts of things that are unforgivable for any car regardless of price.

                • @Galvatron: Just read this. All of my comments are based on experience. I was a mechanic at a shop that had a lot of euros coming through for many years. I know the cars and their owner types.

                  Everything you have said about maintenance costs for euros is wrong and you’ve proved my point about their owners.

      • Exactly. Buy a Kluger if you want quality, reliability and value.

        • Had one for over 8 yrs and planned to replace it after 5yrs but still like new. Cheapest to own car I have ever had and very nice to drive. Bang for buck it is hard to beat.

        • Apparently the next model Kluger will have a hybrid option. I haven’t looked at Kluger because of fuel consumption, But now Kluger finally has carplay the addition of a hybrid option would give a diesel Santa Fe a run for the money. Depends on price I suppose.

          That said, $85k for a Q7 is a seriously good price. These things can even tow like a dual cab, but in comfort!

      • PLEASE if you can show me a Japanese or Korean 4WD with 200kW and under 7L/100km I would be SO happy but the simple fact of the matter is Japanese and Koreans do not make powerful efficient 4WDs. There literally isn't an option! They just aren't at the same level as European cars.

        • Sorry but the false economy of better fuel economy is what has brought us to the current state of motoring we have. I don't believe the power rating of these smaller turbo bathed engines as they require optimal conditions. Additionally once you consider the extra cost of reliability of these engines, does the little fuel saving really matter? This doesn't even include the fact that they have been lying in the tests.

          Point in case is the engine stop start which was purely added to just beat the fuel economy metrics, in real life ended up making the drivers accelerate more due to the lag in starting the car and causing worse fuel economy. Now include the increased stress and wear on the starter and boom another tactic to cost you more.

          • @OpayuOnam: Yeah it’s all bullshit even down to the Euro emissions testing. Europe states that emissions need to be Euro 6 but if it damages the car pollute as much as you want. Hence diesel gate in the US and no such issue in Europe.

        • Also to add to conversation, no matter how I look at this particular Q7 listed here I don't see where the "power" is… Power to weight? Not good. Total Power? Not good. So this is not a powerful engine. Now for efficiency, the real world numbers seems to indicate that it's not as good as advertised, and that's by a worse margin of the jap/kor cars.

        • Dunno how you drive , but our Q7 (4L and 4M) never get less than 7L/100km even on long hwy drive (Syd to Canberra)

        • This particular model is 'only' 160kW, so a detuned version of the 210kW Q7 that you may have been referring to.

        • I don't know of any 200kw petrol engine that's more efficient than the Toyota engine in the Kluger.
          Diesel engines have their drawbacks and when you can get a diesel option it's usually $5,000 - $10,000 extra. Good luck saving that much money in fuel over the life of the car. Maybe if you drive 50,000 km/year.

        • TDI = Diesel.

      • Correction - It will only send you broke if you're poor.
        Tip - Earn more money.

        • Yeah but people with money don’t buy this particular POS or at all, they lease against a company and don’t care about running costs or depreciation.

    • Captiva!

    • They are both in completely different leagues… The Q7 has extreme class, with more tech than an Equinox would have ever have, even in the next few years

      BUT - Holden's are known to be more reliable and cheaper to maintain compared to the Q7 so… It really depends on what your are looking for exactly, and how long you are going to keep the car for

    • What you save on the sticker price with the Equinox you will spend in fuel. Those things are fun. Just avoid gravel if you don't like rattles.

  • What is it normally?

  • Can't wait for the comments…

  • Must be good.. it's "unprecedented"… buzzword for 2020