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Xiaomi M365 Electric Scooter Intelligent BMS 25km/h Max. Load 100kg US $329.99 (AU $491.20) Delivered @ Banggood AU

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  • +4

    These can normally be had for ~$500 with local warranty though?

    • These will ship from Au warehouse by the way, assuming you have clicked the AU box. Banggood has warehouses in Australia. Unsure about warranty though.

    • Link?

  • +4

    Worried about lack of local warranty

    • +5

      Worried about banggood.

      I'd go elsewhere if it's only $9 more.

      • +7

        Spent several thosuand dollars over probably hundreds of orders with them; theyre legit.

        • +1

          what do you order??

          • +1

            @ChatCPT: Nothing that needed warranty, clearly

            • @justtoreply: No, I need to warranty a LOT of things. I fly race quadcopters and they take some real abuse.

          • @ChatCPT: Cutlery, Tupperware, fishing gear, 3d printer parts, laptop, embedded PC's, laser cutter, and thousands of dollars of race drone parts.
            Plus a lot more.

      • Where can you get it for $9 more?

        • Ask railspider, it was their comment (see first comment).

      • Ordered and received one of those xiaomi monitors from a few weeks ago. Can’t complain about the service or price to date.

      • Where can I find local for $9 more please?

  • +2

    I cycle to work and see sooo many more scooters on the bicycle path onto the way into Melbourne CBD now. Warranty, it's also servicing once outside warranty, are bike shops doing ebike and scooter services yet ?

    • Yep, lots of scooter repair shops.

      Also, these common models are very plug+play. If you have a $50 all in one type toolkit from supercheap, you'll be able to diy all the things.

    • Has vic roads changed their rules about e-scooters yet?

      • +4

        No. They still limit e-scooters to 200w and 10km/h max.

        https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safety-and-road-rules/road-r…

        See down near the bottom of the page.

        • +1

          Better than WA. I was excited by e scooters in scandinavia by trying lime and vy…. came back all pumped and then found out your not allowed electric scooters legally on wa roads. Not sure if youd get away on foot paths as i do see some cbd rider but presumably an over zealous cop could ping you. So silly as it could be a good alternative form of transport .

  • Price comes out the same on the app, too.

  • +4

    Kind remind the consequence of caught riding this scooter on road is more than $2500 fines based on these coverage:

    http://www.meltoday.com/content-101848142900002 (written in Chinese, but all the penalty tickets are clear written in English by local police)

    https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/aeqa53/25k_of_fines…

    https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/av4xch/boys_in_blue…

    • +1

      To be clear - this is NSW.

      In other states these are legal.

      • +4

        Nah, not legal in Vic yet.

        • Neither is gunja but no one get fined for it either unless ur being stupid

        • See my comment above. Dont think you can ride them in wa either except off roads e.g. your private space. Pretty much useless.

    • +1

      Strangely enough, these are all from around a year ago with no further incidents reported - even though the number of scooters are sharply going up.
      Urban legend? Misluck? Who knows…

      • +4

        I've thought about this a lot, and even though I think the current risk is low there's a high chance that after the first inevitable accident involving one of these scooters there will be a crack down of existing laws, after which your scooter becomes completely useless for a little while. I'm holding off until the laws are updated.

        • Qld has had several very serious accidents with them. Still got renewed licence to operate rideshare scooters.

          Still less scooter incidents per month than bicycle.

    • +2

      This model is legal in Qld

      See https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/rules/wheeled-device…

      Legal on roads 50k and below outside of the CBD
      Legsl on pavement anywhere

  • Out walking of a night, Ive seen a teen flying down the main road on some form of scooter had to be doing 50-60 km/h no lights wearing black jackets and helmet etc..

    Are there hacks to get these going to these sorts of speeds or are other more expensive examples capable of these speeds?

    • A very quick google search for "m365 firmware hack" found this: https://m365.botox.bz/
      I can't vouch for it of course - I just did some googling.

    • +1

      Yes, you can modify the factory firmware to improve power and increase top speed on these models - but that will only give you an extra 5-10km/h max. There are also more expensive models which are probably capable of higher speeds if you bypass the software limits.

      It's definitely possible to heavily modify an e-scooter of any kind, or build your own from scratch, if you have the knowledge and budget to make it work.

      Where e-scooters (and similar) are legal to use on public land, they have maximum power and top speed regulations. Regardless of the irresponsible lack of lights, inappropriate dress etc, the >50km/h speeds makes this incident illegal. Riding an e-scooter on a main road is almost certainly illegal as well - they are supposed to be only ridden on footpaths and suburban streets.

      You can't regulate against that level of stupidy.

    • +1

      The easiest answer, is "both".
      A drop of ferrofluid in the motor, to keep it cool, and a parallel battery to provide more amps, and it can get my fat ass up to about 78kmph without too much issue.

      That said, yes you can just buy more powerful ones and smash it at stupid speeds.

    • Takes more than firmware to do this. You gotta purchase a scooter capable of this, and it needs to be firmware modded due to Australian law soft-capping them to 25km/h.

    • There are ready made scooters availabe with larger motors and batteries. Here are a few https://iscoot.com.au/product-category/road-warrior/

      They will cost you an arm or leg though (to buy one and also if something happens at that speed!)

  • +27

    “ Load 100kg”

    Rules out 99% of ozbargainers.

    • +1

      Oh, when will Detroit build an electric scooter for the husky gentleman?!?

    • Ozbargainers are portly? since when?

    • Lotus Biscoffi half price

  • Anyone seen m365 Pro around the $700 dollarydoos mark?

    • I'd suggest the Zero 8 at around $900, I got it and it's fairly impressive for the price, more power, speed, and solid, DYOR

      • +1

        I think you'll find the M365Pro actually has more power and speed than the Zero 8. The M365Pro is listed at 300W, but running it through the BMS software showing it pulling more than 1000W. A quick unlock will also enable a 37kmh top speed.

    • The xiaomi Australia website has it on special for $750 delivered

  • Nice summary of where scooters are legal and what rules apply:

    https://www.ecorides.com.au/blogs/news/electric-scooter-aust…

  • After how many Kilometers will I require a battery replacement?
    Say my work is 5Kms away and I do 10Kms a day, 5 day a week.
    10Kms5Days52Weeks= 2600Kms/year

    For two yeras = 5200Kms

    Can anyone confirm the battery will last ~5200Kms? Is there an odometer?

    • Li-on battery lifespan is counted as number of cycles (fully charged to fully discharged) Mi365 Normally have 100-200 cycles depending your maintenance.

      this article explain in a more detail https://escooterrider.com/lifespan-of-the-xiaomi-m365/

    • I've done about 1500km on mine with custom firmware (30km/h) and I haven't noticed any battery degradation yet.

  • +2

    This store name gets me every time

  • +4

    "Max. Load 100kg US"
    How many AUS kg is that? ;P

    • Need to lose the Covid19kilos to fit

    • Around 130 AU kg?

  • In melbourne, can we use this in the bicycle lanes?

    • Its illegal to use this in victoria.

      • i see some use? they are slower versions?

        • +2

          I dont think so, most people riding them are just going by "its not illegal until you get caught".

        • Currently the laws in VIC require a max speed of 10km/h and less than 200W of power.

          This does 25km/h and has 250W nominal and 500W peak power.

          The laws were written for mobility scooters which is what these are currently categorised as.

  • +2

    I've owned one for over a year so happy to answer any questions about the scooter.

    One thing you should note is the tyres on these are a pain to replace. I've spent hours sometimes, destroyed many tubes, skinned my knuckles and nearly smashed the scooter in frustration while changing the tubes. I've also had to replace the motor due to stressing the wires to it when trying to squeeze the tyre back on.

    I'd still recommend it as a beginner scooter for it's portability (~12kg) and price. For something faster and easier to maintain at a higher price, go for a Zero 9 or 10. If you want to go crazy a pseudo motorcycle, get a Zero 10X or Dualtron Thunder.

    • "and nearly smashed the scooter in frustration while changing the tubes"

      I completely understand how you feel… putting the tyres back on is beyond a pain…. Yes, I've seen videos where people would microwave the tyres to soften it up… but i'm not going to put tyres in a microwave that i cook my food in…

      • +1

        I tried the microwave but didn't help as much. I've found that the oven at 150°C for 20 minutes helps though.

        At this stage I've tried so many ways and watched a lot of videos that I feel fairly confident in changing it but it still is harder than it should be.

        • Likewise, I wouldn't want to put a tyre (even if it is new) into an oven that I cook my food in…

          What works for you? Honestly I tried and gave up changing that damn thing so many times. The only time i got it to work is when I brought it to the bike shop and someone there helped me. Even that guys said it is very hard to make that tire change.

    • +1 on a Zero 9 as an alternative. Here is my video describing the difference from a ride perspective https://youtu.be/7HCRMZyUbKc

  • Should I be worried about rep?
    https://www.mi.com/global/support/mi-electric-scooter-recall…

    Also how does it work with warranty?

    • +1

      The recall was from an 2-3 year old batch, that isn't in circulation anymore.

      For warranty, you'd have to follow whatever Banggood procedure is on their website.

      • Thx. So that is not covered by xiaomi Australia?

        • I'd assume since Banggood is the reseller, they would handle your warranty issues.

  • Ended up as A$481.38 on my card, not bad at all

    • Hi, did you have to use a VPN or did you select to pay in USD and that was the conversion on your credit card? Cheers

      • Should’ve clarified, but paid in USD and that’s the conversion on my card

  • +1

    I've changed four tyres now on my M365. Trying to ride home on a flat guarantees you'll have to swap it out. Sometimes the valves are faulty or not seated tightly so don't ruin that one. Anyways, once I had fairly easily got the replacement tube in and the tyre 3/4 on, I used a heat gun on that last 1/4. Just one side of the tyre of course. Easy Peasy ! I was stunned at how successfully that works. Another tip. Front wheel, drill out that plastic valve stem fitting or you'll be fiddling around for a month of Sundays.

    • So you are saying you use the heat gun to soften the tyre in order to get that last 1/4 in?

      Unfortunately I don't have a heat gun… do you think a hairdryer would work? What temperature do you use on your heatgun?

      • You can use a hair dryer. I use the heat gun on max but move it quickly over the surface of the tyre. First two tyre changes I bent bike tyre levers in half. Second time with the heat on just a quarter of the tyre, it leapt onto the rim. It isn't an issue for me now and I'm happy to have two pneumatic impact absorbing tyres on this suspensionless beast.

    • I used to get punctures all the time. I filled the front tyre tube with goo and replaced the rear one with a solid rubber tyre from eBay. Lost about 1km p/h in speed but never had another puncture.

      • I bought a tubeless tyre but just having trouble putting it on so I'll try the hair dryer next.

  • +1

    I regular overload mine to 150kg and it handles well (my gf and I go tandem through Melbourne CBD, maybe you've seen us).

    To anyone considering one of these, don't. Changing the tires is such an enormous hassle. Just find yourself a suitable one at reddit.com/r/electricscooters with either 10" tires or split rims and order that.

  • Avoid BangGood like plague, or simply be okay with the risk equivalent to slightly cheaper price you will take advantage of.

    Ordered twice, products were faulty (I have doubts the products are counterfeit to begin with, or at least built with substandard quality parts). They acknowledged the fault of the product but I needed to upload the video showing the fault on three different platforms because they as a tech selling company "cant see it". I guess it is hard to open the link and press play :)

    Eventually raised the issue with the payment processor as fraud so they managed to "see" the video immediately as that happened, but promised refund a few times only to not do it and then coercing me to close the dispute on the credit card first, and then they will process the refund. Right :D

    I likely was more unlucky, and not all products will fail, but you are dealing with thieves and if it comes to that, you will waste a lot of your time chasing something you shouldn't be chasing and in Australia, you wouldn't.

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