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Baccarat Artisan Finster 7Piece/Stahi 6Pieces German Steel Knife Block $64 / $56 Delivered (RRP$400-$450) @ House / House eBay

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Baccarat Artisan Stahl 6 Piece German Steel Knife Block via Code Extra20 $64 (+Shipping/ Spend $89 shipped)
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Baccarat Artisan Finster 7-Piece German Steel Knife Block Black
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Baccarat Artisan Stahl 6 Piece German Steel Knife Block
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Baccarat Artisan Finster 7-Piece German Steel Knife Block Black
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  • Fredfloresjr on 23/06/2020 - 22:04
    +5

    Present sorted. Thanks OP.

    Edit. Paid 54$ at ebay.

    • save50 on 23/06/2020 - 22:21

      $56

  • RespectMyAuthoritar on 23/06/2020 - 22:05
    +12

    Is this a good price? With the RRP price of these knives being way overpriced, it's hard to tell.

  • [Deactivated] on 23/06/2020 - 22:19
    -3

    Much better option than the Victorinox set as the steel runs the length of the whole knife, and is riveted to the handle. Also has a lifetime guarantee. I bought the Sabre Set for $126 (with P30STYLE), before the price went back up, plus some extra matching steak knives from Catch and some glasses with a $15 off coupon.

    Also bought a Baccarat Cleaver using a $20 eBay voucher which I want to affix to the back of the wooden block somehow. Maybe with a thin magnet.

    My only concern is dust, so I think I'll keep them in the cupboard.

    • Stopback on 23/06/2020 - 23:36
      +11

      Really Victoria ox is a better brand though that chefs use. These look pretttier thought

        • shiznit on 24/06/2020 - 01:55
          +5

          Make sure you go through the find print of that warranty.

          For starters: The ‘’Lifetime Guarantee’’ starts from the date of purchase and continues for 25 years from this date

        • simulacrum on 24/06/2020 - 11:10
          +2

          That's a lifetime guarantee that the knife won't break or rust due to poor workmanship if handled in accordance with their instructions.. i've never had that happen to any of my knives.. not even cheap chinese Kiwi brand. So the guarantee is pretty useless and not related in any way to the cutting performance of the blade, sharpness or edge retention.

          You might find, for example, find every couple of weeks it starts to slide along tomato skin and won't bite in until the second or third pass unless you hone it. After the wire edge from the factory sharpen wears off in a month, you might find the honing doesn't work and you need to resharpen (which will be annoying on a whetstone due to the bolster, but thats a different matter). That poor retention won't be covered by the guarantee, it's just a characteristic of soft steel. And that's not even going into what kind of edge the steel takes on sharpening.

          I've used Victorinox fibrox filleting and boning knives and found them to be pretty good for the task, and to hold a nice edge for a standard steel. The tang of the blade does go into the handle, though it isn't rivetted. Plenty of pro butchers and chefs use these to process primary cuts of meat and fish.

          • [Deactivated] on 24/06/2020 - 15:03
            -2

            @simulacrum: Get a life.

            • simulacrum on 24/06/2020 - 23:24

              @[Deactivated]: Hope I didn’t cause offence. If you can point out where I’ve personally insulted you in my post I will sincerely apologise, because that certainly wasn’t my intention. I think if you read my post again you’ll find I’m trying to provide helpful information on the subject matter without casting any aspersions or making any personal judgements. Hope all is well in your life :)

    • SLAMMA1102 on 24/06/2020 - 06:46
      +5

      You’ve got to be joking better they are better then Victorinox 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

      Surely you can’t be serious

      I have a wooden ruler that’s sharper then baccarat

      Life’s time warranty 🙃

      • [Deactivated] on 24/06/2020 - 15:05

        I knew I should have bought some "Victorinox" rulers.

    • tofuofdoom on 24/06/2020 - 07:44
      +3

      The tang isn't as important as you might think. You'll find a lot of japanese knives are partial tang only.

      Although, doing some research, it appears that victorinox are also full tang, they've just hidden it under that godawful (but very grippy and utilitarian) handle, see the rosewood variant. Baccarat uses low end steel, and while you'll find people saying that victorinox blades are soft, they're still significantly harder than anything you'll find baccarat using. The thing to keep in mind is, Baccarat is good at making pots and pans, not knives.

      Their knives are pretty, and using steel not dissimilar to the ones you'll find in colesworth. The thing is, Baccarat is marketed to people who've never owned a good knife. It is indeed a step up from the never been sharpened dull AF knives I'm sure all out parents had. I have a Baccarat set I picked up from when I first moved out, and I was pretty happy with it. Then one of my chef friends gave me a victorinox as a gift. Worlds different. I picked up a Tojiro Flash a while ago, and I'll never go back. I tried a little while ago, and you have to sharpen the Baccarat practically every month to maintain the edge either of my other knives can keep for 6 months to a year.

      • [Deactivated] on 24/06/2020 - 15:06
        -1

        tl;dr.

        • tofuofdoom on 24/06/2020 - 15:52
          +3

          Hm. If you don't have the attention span to read 200 odd words, maybe you should be asking parental permission before playing with knives.

    • johnno07 on 24/06/2020 - 08:12
      +1

      A lifetime guarantee doesn't mean they wont go dull. I'm no metallurgist, but something tells me the steel used here is not one that holds and edge all that long. And at $10/knife you're probably not going to be bothered to sharpen them given the price of the appropriate tools to do so. So I'm not really sure there's much of a difference between a 25 year "guarantee" and a 5 year one in this case.

      • [Deactivated] on 24/06/2020 - 15:12
        -2

        Get a life.

        • johnno07 on 25/06/2020 - 11:34
          +1

          A well-considered response. Nice. Maybe give the internet a miss for a bit?

  • Unacceptable on 23/06/2020 - 22:22
    +1

    I have this but one of the knives tip has snapped which I don’t remember how. I like the scissors included in the set though.

    • sAmiZZle on 23/06/2020 - 23:45

      Surprising given that German knives generally use a softer steel than Japanese and typically that prevents these kinds of issues. Just means they don't hold their sharp edge as long though

      • [Deactivated] on 24/06/2020 - 00:12
        +13

        They aren't German knives. They are made in China by a brand based in Hong Kong. The steel comes from Germany, apparently, but how would you know? It's probably just marketing made from Chinese steel.

  • [Deactivated] on 23/06/2020 - 22:22
    -4

    Prefer baccamouse

    • [Deactivated] on 23/06/2020 - 22:22

      Wow lame

      • [Deactivated] on 23/06/2020 - 22:57

        baccarodent? Anyone? Bueller?

        or

        baccacapybara? baccachewbacca? baccawaccawacca?

        …Bueller?

    • CJ31 on 24/06/2020 - 10:12

      Harsh crowd.

  • Dex38313 on 23/06/2020 - 22:24

    The Id3 egg 9 piece is a steat at $279 eBay house

    • db87 on 23/06/2020 - 23:26

      How do the knives compare to the global sets. I have the 4 piece global block and the global cleaver separate. I'd happily sell my 4 piece block if these were better/similar quality.

      • Dex38313 on 23/06/2020 - 23:43

        Not sure I have the 7 piece egg but just upgraddd to the 9

      • marcozmitch on 24/06/2020 - 00:11
        +2

        Global are actually good.

        • [Deactivated] on 24/06/2020 - 00:15
          +3

          Global are actually made in Japan unlike Baccarat. I'd bet they are better knives, but I can't be sure.

        • db87 on 24/06/2020 - 10:09
          +1

          Yes, and I'm very happy with my set but I do love those knife blocks and do find myself lacking a few knives know and then, hence entertaining the idea.

          Thoughts are to buy a bread knife and a couple of others I've found wanting for and just get a bigger block separately.

          I also like that the global set I have are all metal so no separate pieces to the handle and they also balance nicely in the hand.

      • randomusername2017 on 24/06/2020 - 00:23
        +2

        *another vote for global over baccarat

        Next step up from global would be something like trident classic. Totally different ergonomics and balance though.

      • SLAMMA1102 on 24/06/2020 - 06:49
        +1

        Global a hundred times better I have a wooden ruler that’s sharper then baccarat

      • simulacrum on 24/06/2020 - 06:52
        +3

        Global is an established brand that is known for decent quality knives. They use cromova18 steel which takes and holds a decent edge and is relatively hard wearing.

        Baccarat is a brand that seems to source pretty looking knives made of mystery steel (ambiguously marketed as “German steel” or “japanese steel”) made in China advertised with ridiculous RRPs largely targeted at someone who wants a good looking knife set for display purposes. Though they aren’t likely to chip (due to the softer steels used) the edge is likely to roll/ bend causing it to lose sharpness very quickly. If you’re used to global’s edge retention you’ll probably find that these get relatively dull quite quickly by comparison. Definitely wouldn’t swap the globals for something like this.

        • db87 on 24/06/2020 - 10:12

          Thanks for the detailed input and to the others above.

          I'll stick with what I know then.

          Any recommendation for a decent sized block similar to this egg or even a square styled one?

          I've found they're grossly over priced for what is essentially a timber block with some plastic jammed into them. I've even entertained buying a cheaper knife set that includes the block just to give the wife some shitty knives to abuse and take the block for my globals. 🤔

          • simulacrum on 24/06/2020 - 11:16
            +1

            @db87: not sure.. i haven't used blocks for awhile.. they tend to dull the blade when stored edge down. If you can get a nice block of wood sized to fit a spare kitchen drawer and cut some slots in it with a circular saw deep enough to fully conceal the blade, you can lay your knives blade up in the drawer.

            Most knife enthusiasts seem to prefer to use magnetic stands. Check out kitchen knife forums.. its a treasure trove of info for/from knife geeks (eg: https://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/threads/ways-to-store-kni…).

  • mrbearski on 23/06/2020 - 22:27

    Does anyone know what steel is used in these knives ?

    • Finerthings on 23/06/2020 - 22:30
      +5

      German Steel

      • mrbearski on 23/06/2020 - 22:36

        The only thing I can find on "german steel" is X50CrMoV15. Still very vague.

        • D3m3ntia on 23/06/2020 - 23:05
          +2

          That's the composition of it. It's Chinese steel, but for the price you would expect that

        • field1985 on 23/06/2020 - 23:31
          +11

          X50CrMoV15 is the most commonly used stainless steel type for kitchen knives by German manufacturers. It is a good steel type for a very wide public. The rust resistance is high and the cutting characteristics are perfect.
          Excellent for family use and professional use where not everyone is careful with the knives. For info: X stands for stainless, 50 for 0.50% carbon and 15 for 15% Chrome. In addition the steel contains small quantities of Molybdene and Vanadium to improve the grain structure and durability. Source

          • simulacrum on 24/06/2020 - 07:09

            @field1985: It’s a good description, but from what I can tell me bears Ji just googled “German steel” and x50crmov15 was one of the results. We don’t actually know that these knives are made of x50crmov15.. there are many steels made in Germany and this could be any of them.

        • sAmiZZle on 23/06/2020 - 23:51

          German knives generally use a softer steel than Japanese and typically that makes the blade more resilient to chipping and breakage from mishandling. However, they don't hold their sharp edge as long as Japanese steel. It's a tradeoff you have to decide which is better for you.

          • mrbearski on 23/06/2020 - 23:56
            +3

            @sAmiZZle: Might be perfect for the wife as she cuts lemons with my high carbon knives and they end up rusting over night and yesterday I caught her chopping on the kitchen bench! This steel sounds like it can handle acidity and mishandled a bit.

            • CJ31 on 24/06/2020 - 10:18
              +1

              @mrbearski: Mine like cutting things using plates as a cutting board. I gave up and now she has her own cheap knife set full of very blunt knives.

          • simulacrum on 24/06/2020 - 07:04
            +1

            @sAmiZZle: That and really depends largely in the treatment of the blade and what hardness it’s been brought to. The generalization may be informative if you look at german and Japanese knife manufacturers broadly and generalize the different approaches to blade design.. but this is a Chinese manufacturer without a coherent approach to blade design, largely aiming to make pretty looking knife sets for display and market them with catchy but ultimately meaningless terms, so I wouldn’t expect Your statement to be informative in this case. In this case the ambiguousness of the description (“German steel” or “Japanese steel”) is telling of the general reason for it - it is largely for marketing purposes rather than to convey the characteristics of the blade. The reality is these are fairly cheaply made Chinese knives made of whatever (maybe) German or Japanese steel stock the manufacturer could buy at the right price point and heat treated generically to (they claim 53hrc - which is relatively soft for what purports to be a high end knife)

        • simulacrum on 24/06/2020 - 07:06
          +1

          There are many many types of steel made in Germany and in japan. And even if you could identify the type of steel (which you really can’t based on the description they give) you wouldn’t be able to tell anything about the performance of the blade without being able to trust the manufacturer to heat treat it properly (which in this case you likely can’t). The statements on various baccarat knives saying “German steel” or “Japanese steel” are entirely meaningless, and there to attract customers who have heard that German steel or Japanese steel represents high quality.

    • wetwork on 23/06/2020 - 22:35
      +3

      Valerian steel. It's special.
      Watch the GOT episode - they put a wolf in the foundry furnace.
      Damn - too much wine.

    • D3m3ntia on 23/06/2020 - 23:04
      +1

      1.4116

      https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/what-is-1-4116-steel.652…

      TL;dr used in Swiss army knives as it's very corrosion resistant and easy to sharpen with just about anything (good for the wilderness to sharpen on a piece of rock?). Won't hold edge omg but can sharpen up again. Hrc 52?

  • wetwork on 23/06/2020 - 22:36
    +2

    The perfect children's birthday present.

    • Fredfloresjr on 23/06/2020 - 22:43
      +2

      If you wanna get rid off naughty children why not

  • Variableaperture on 23/06/2020 - 22:46
    -1

    Eh, I think I’ll stick with my Wusthof set 🤔

    • D3m3ntia on 23/06/2020 - 22:51

      And I'll stick with my Ran. House loses all credibility by selling that Damashiro Emperor BS set.

  • abacus on 23/06/2020 - 22:47

    I bought this last year from House

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/521593

    $5

    The sticker says $50

    Take the RRP with a grain of salt.

    • AussieDaddy on 23/06/2020 - 22:52
      -3

      Your link is about the sharpener, and this a set of knives.

      • abacus on 24/06/2020 - 01:37
        -1

        Yeah, I was talking about their RRP, not knives or salt shakers.

  • AussieDaddy on 23/06/2020 - 22:56
    +1

    Are these rust magnets, like the reviewers say about other types of Baccarat knives?

    • [Deactivated] on 23/06/2020 - 22:59
      +3

      Instructions say to dry immediately after washing. Perhaps this is the cause of those reviews?

      • AussieDaddy on 23/06/2020 - 23:04

        Maybe. I've seen people saying they get rusty from other Baccarat deals posted here, and similar complaints are on PR.

        • [Deactivated] on 24/06/2020 - 00:58

          Hopefully my purchase will be okay but I appreciate the info.

        • Springfield on 24/06/2020 - 07:20

          Guess that means they are not meant to be put in the dishwasher?

          • hoxygt on 24/06/2020 - 10:34

            @Springfield: I've only got the cleaver but its done very well - no rust.

      • D3m3ntia on 23/06/2020 - 23:08
        +1

        You should do that with your $200 VG10 gyutou as well! But the steel the use here is apparently quite corrosion resistant

      • marcozmitch on 24/06/2020 - 01:01

        The water does eventually get into the ingress of the handle and eventually does rust or corrode, but you do get that lifetime warranty to get your money back, "even backed by Baccarat's Lifetime Guarantee…" (on Amazon)

    • Viper8 on 23/06/2020 - 23:30
      +5

      Any set of sharp knives will rust if not dried immediately. They're high-carbide to help hold a sharp edge. Totally different composition to normal cutlery which needs to be soak/dishwasher proof but not hold a sharp edge.

      • [Deactivated] on 24/06/2020 - 01:03

        Thanks for the info. I assumed the rust was caused by something like the factors you referred to.

      • hoxygt on 24/06/2020 - 10:35

        Bingo!

    • athk on 24/06/2020 - 06:35

      I was always taught to wipe knives with a cloth that's been dunked in hot soapy water then ringed, then dry the knife, I've never submerged my knifes in the sink.

      Submerging knives blunts them over time also worse if there's dishes hitting against the blade itself. Also as macrozmitch said, the water gets into the handle.

  • blackwalnut on 23/06/2020 - 23:05
    +13

    Baccarat is trash . Made up retail prices that no sane person would buy at. Target and Kmart knives both say German steel and are $25 each . Means not much. The Victorinox deal was much better , knives often used by butchers and chefs.

    • Winston100s on 23/06/2020 - 23:17
      +3

      All these soft metal knives need a few strokes on the honing rod after every 15min of use. And then get them properly sharpened every month on a wet-stone.

  • jdesign2 on 23/06/2020 - 23:11

    oh well but More than 10 available 133 sold in one hour.. still bargain

  • BiG BoY on 23/06/2020 - 23:16

    ID rather have a bread knife than scissors going with the Stahl

  • randomusername2017 on 23/06/2020 - 23:27
    +2

    Baccarat/House are both brands of a larger retail company, hence the "flexibility" with recommended retail pricing.

    Very similar to the type of no name knife you find in Kmart/Target/Woolworths.

    • Variableaperture on 23/06/2020 - 23:42
      +4

      Let’s be honest, the RRP is just there so they can claim their knives are as good as those that are actually worth that much.

      I don’t think I have ever walked past a house store that didn’t have a 75% off sale.

  • neohazard on 23/06/2020 - 23:28

    buy other stuff for $100 and stack with this offer https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/542713 for $50 cash back

    • striker5950 on 23/06/2020 - 23:47

      But it’s 80 on Amazon, is there a good cheap set of sharpening stone from any of those sites that when stacked goes above 100?

      • neohazard on 23/06/2020 - 23:55

        You can get from House.com.au for $64, a sharpener and then other stuff (you don't need) to makes it $100 ha ha

  • tedibaba on 23/06/2020 - 23:28

    Thanks Nice bargain.

  • Trying2SaveABuck on 23/06/2020 - 23:41
    +2

    These are pretty much 80~ everywhere i looked

    This i still a bargain but i think the RRP is a bit made up

  • striker5950 on 23/06/2020 - 23:53

    not Bad for 56 got the 7 piece

  • BargainGeezer on 23/06/2020 - 23:57

    OzBargain has become KnifeBargain.

  • nightelves on 24/06/2020 - 00:01
    +3

    Probably get a lot of negs for this but I’ve been getting by pretty well with Kiwi knives.

    • randomusername2017 on 24/06/2020 - 00:17
      +1

      *carving knife
      * docking knife

      what else would be in the set?

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