This has been around for the past week but surprisingly hasn't yet been posted. The card has 3x DisplayPort 1.4 connectors and 1x HDMI 2.0b connector.
GALAX GeForce RTX 2070 Super 8G (1-Click OC) $749 + Delivery @ Umart
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Void on 08/08/2020 - 14:35 umart.com.au (1424 clicks)
Last edited 09/08/2020 - 01:27 by 2 other users
Last edited 09/08/2020 - 01:27 by 2 other users
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Yup, this is $30 off MSRP, and next-gen is weeks away.
Sep 17
Allegedly. There's also rumours of FE cards launching with the announcement, which is supposedly this month.
@jasswolf: Is it better to wait until for a better card (3000 series), or get a better deal on a 2000 series?
@calneideck: Always to wait for the card if you have a working GPU (even a dGPU). Even Turing, which started out with fairly lacklustre performance due to initial drivers and game support, was still breaking even most of the time.
Now it's 30-70% gen-on-gen in modern games, and that lower-end number continues to climb, with DLSS on top of that.
@Crono: 30-70% is the number. Turing is built for low-level graphics APIs and running simultaneous floating point and integer calculations. Pascal just isn't, and it gets thrashed in Vulkan, thrashed in proper DX12 implementations. Go find benchmarks from the last 12 months which suggest otherwise… the same complaints rolled out at Maxwell launch, but 18 months later it was miles ahead due to new features and architectural capabilities.
Once mesh shaders via DX12 Ultimate and Vulkan start popping up properly, it's not even a contest. Most games don't support VRS yet either, and that's a straight 10-20% depending on implementation.
@jasswolf: I don't know where you are getting the 30-70% generational inprovement from but if you look at the last gen a 2080 is only <10% faster than a 1080ti on average. And yes I am comparing the 1080ti to a 2080 and not a 2080ti because the 2080 was released at the same msrp.
@calneideck: If you keep waiting for the next best thing you'll never end up buying.
Buy it if it's good enough specs and the price range is right for you. If something better, comes out you can always upgrade.
@Serapis: That's an absurd thing to advise when the next best thing is weeks away, and the value of the item you're buying today will be shredded by that.
But if they're happy to lose $300+ on the 2070 Super, then sure, take your advice.
@jasswolf: You're not going to lose $300+ on a card that's $749 once the new series come out…
It won't be shredded for a while after launch, usually not until whatever comes after 3000 series is announced.
@Serapis: If the follow-up card is 50-80% better, explain to me how not, unless you're relying on the buyer being a fool.
Or do you have zero experience with selling second hand GPUs?
@jasswolf: It has never been 50-80% better, haven't even seen that sort of performance boost going from a 5+ year old R9 290x to an RTX 2070 (other than with RTX on like Quake 2 demo).
But you do you and take in all the hype + repeat what all the other fanboys are spouting
@Serapis: It reads like you've turned up your graphics settings (or the game engine is utilising features that were disabled for you at a driver level) or you hit a CPU bottleneck. Performance gains are also used to increase complexity (fidelity) as well as just 'moar frames'.
When comparing recent generations, the contrast tends to be far greater because they are competing on a relatively even playing field. Pascal (1070 to 970) was exactly the kind of leap you're describing, so was Maxwell (970 to 770), and you're in fantasy land if you think otherwise. Turing is close, but when it's fully utilised it's actually more, hence why it's described as a 'forward-thinking architecture'.
Read up before you start making claims like that, and stop dodging the direct question that was asked of you, or simply stop commenting if you're going to spout unfounded nonsense.
@jasswolf: Low end series of cards like the 60’s tend to fall in price quicker but higher end cards like the 70’s and 80’s tend to hold their value, 1070’s, 80’s and 80ti’s all still go for quite a bit today so i doubt a 2070 super is going to be left in the dust by the next series.
a 3060 is probably not going to be as fast as a 2070 super and frankly it’ll probably go for like 650-700 dollars anyway, this bargain is a far better value than any 3000 series new.
@chepsk8: Based on what? Prices during the cryptocraze and Turing launch? People were paying more than MSRP to get a GPU because they were making the money back after a few weeks of mining, and Turing got slammed in early reviews (probably help sell the old cards, really).
You shouldn't advise people that they have time to sell after launch, particularly in the current environment. Demand has soared, and people are being more careful with their money. Your advice hinges on people being unable to google prices, have their head in the sand, and be unable to operate a calculator.
The time to sell used was in the previous 4 months. The cards you mentioned are the first to be sold, and thus they are the first to markedly drop value, but everything else follows quickly.
@calneideck: To go a step further here, these are the expected features for Ampere gaming chips (the 3000 series):
- 3-4x ray tracing performance (more and better RT cores)
- 2-3x better Tensor performance (decreasing DLSS latency by 50-70%)
- NVIDIA GPUDirect Storage, keeping pace with next-gen consoles
- 30-50% more CUDA cores, gen-on-gen
- increased clocks (memory and core), minor architectural gains (10-20%)
At the very least, wait for the announcements that are likely to come within the next fortnight, then read up and make a decision.
@jasswolf: You just need to say the price for this thing and where to buy it if you were able to find it available in "next few weeks".
@Dienk: We're already at MSRP for existing cards, sometimes over. I'd expect prices to roughly be the same or even a little cheaper, and that will come down to shipping costs and how assembly plants are faring under their given conditions in each country (typically Taiwan and China).
Whether the performance class for each model number is the same as last generation (e.g. the 2060 was not really the same class of chip as the 1060), that's a different matter. I'd suggest the 3080 will carry over the 2080/2080S price, while the 3070 and the 3060 will be comparatively cheaper.
I'm also not expecting a 3080 Ti at launch, but I am expecting to NVIDIA to offer an overclocked version of the launch cards alongside their Founders Edition cards.
@jasswolf: @Serapis Hello friends, I ended up going with the Gigabyte 2070 super as I thought it a better deal (not too keen on Galax). I recently bought a 1440p 144hz monitor and my R9 390 just wasn't cutting it so I was keen to upgrade soon.
There won't be any stock available for the 3000 series for months and the only parts available will be overpriced. Just see what happened to 1070gtx when it came out, hard to buy, overpriced, etc
does this fit in Inwin A1 plus?
PCPP is known to have some things wrong, and based on their listed data there are no incompatibilities which is very strange, but Pace210 has found some builds which should be helpful to finding out if it fits.
why not just have 0-click OC
You might not always want to run at OC speeds. Helps with longevity and power consumption.
And this is why I cap my frames :)
GPU downclocks itself when it doesn't need to use all of it's potential, reducing power consumption, noise, temps and also activating FreeSync as my framerates are in the range.
"Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?"
Dam your quick
Didn't really know much about Galax and just bought my first Galax card about 2 mnonths ago (2080TI SG Edition) and have to say it's flawless. Was wary about going with a brand I didn't know much about (had a MSI Seahawk) but have to say I wouldn't hesitate to go for Galax again when the 3000 series is out.
Same here. Although I've used galaxy cards in the past I was real hesitant on this 2070 super as it was considerably cheaper than the next cheapest model and the cooler looks so cheap in the photos. Swapped from a 5700xt nitro+ special edition and was increadibly surprised that the cooler performs really well, keeping the card cooler than the nitro+ did the 5700xt.
Any chance down the line when the 3000 series are released that this will drop even lower?
NVIDIA doesn't have the glut of chips they had last time they did a launch, which combined with lockdown, means you probably won't see many deals (if any).
By the time this is cut price, it'll be because the value proposition is awful compared to a 3000 series card.
all indications and rumours are Nvidia are already ceasing production of 2000 series GPU's. won't be long till you can't buy a 2000 series except second hand or some rare old stock. They don't like to be competing against their own product line.
The only hope then is that the next gen AMD cards can actually compete at the mid range. Then there should be some price drops.
Ventus is so garbage I'd put it below Galax. Unless you want to go deaf (obvi an exaggeration) get the Galax one.
why is it garbage? mines overclocked by 180mhz core and 700mhz memory, works flawlessly, can be a bit loud once fans get to 70% but thats fine if you're using headphones.
can be a bit loud once fans get to 70%
That's my point, you shouldn't need to wear headphones to stop it from bothering you. Everyone's headphones are different, mine are semi-open so I can hear my MSI MECH very clearly, and when it's only a $10 price difference it's definitely worth it because you could even just crank the fan speed to Ventus levels for more overclocking headroom.
@BROKENKEYBOARD: The Ventus equivalent for AMD. Both are crap tier. It's really just an example of a loud card.
Ventus is fine, i have the RTX 2070 (non super) it's overclocked 200 mhz core and 950 mhz memory without having to increase voltage, idles at 21°C / full load at 61°C.
It's actually far more quiet and cooler than the R9 290x it replaced by a loooong shot.
But at what fan speed?
@Void: Just ran 3dMark Firestrike:
Core Clock +200 (Max 2100)
Memory clock + 950 (Max 7951)GPU usage 95%
Max temp 60°C
Max fan (on Auto) 50%@Serapis: Woah.
Edit: Oh jee there's a 40W difference between Super and non-Super. I wonder how it'd hold up, probably ~70c at around 60% fan I'd say. If the fans are anything like my MECH OC (Torx Fan 3.0 or some shit) even 50% is pretty noisy.
@Void: Actually, i set fan speed to 100% manually to test and it is damn loud, 60% is barely louder than my Fractal case fan and I haven't seen it exceed 60% before, even with Furmark…
I'll see if i can test sound level using a sound meter appon my phone
@Serapis: Must be different fans then or different max rpm. If they are different fans then it would seem MSI are gimping AMD's cheaper cards on purpose. That's pretty nice.
@Void: The android app i used showed 30 dB while running Port Royal benchmark on 3Dmark, tested with phone 30cm away from the exhaust fan (i have 2x 140mm intake fans in front and 1x 120mm exhaust fan at the back).
GPUz says 50% is 1700 rpm, 60% is around 2000
@Serapis: I dunno if the phone is correct, but yeah they definitely have a lower max rpm. For me 50% is like 2200rpm.
Edit: Mkay so I looked at a really shitty YouTube video and some guy with a Celeron and the 2070S hit 2500rpm on ONE fan and 2200rpm on the other (weeiiird) at 73c. I doubt there is CPU bottleneck because GPU load was at 99% and power draw 215W. And mind you this was Furmark which is quite aggressive. I think it's a pretty meh card, probably around 2100-2200rpm realistic load. Unreliable source though, guy seems like the type of idiot to have the worst airflow.
I nearly pulled the trigger on this a couple days ago but have been told to wait for the September Nvidia announcement of their 3000 series cards
Always do what you're told
now really isnt a great time to buy gpus. My Strix 1080 is dying (graphics artifacts) but holding out for 3000 series. Once that launches 20xx prices will take a fall even further.
Definitely. A good deal for those who need one now though.
They won't, this is probably the cheapest they'll be. The cards have been discontinued so there won't be stock to discount.
retailers always put on sale previous gens of gpus to clear SKUs when new products launch, this literally happens for every single product launch
Yeah but what people are saying is that there is a lot of availability and stock issues with them, so there won't be many to discount.
@Charleston: Exactly. Reserves will already be going right now. By the time 3k series release, there will be little to no stock left.
Second hand will be the main way to acquire them, simar to the 1080 GPUs.
The prices will probably halve.
The reason is the 2070 will be beat by the 3060 (probably the 2080 will be beat too). Hence the price will fall to take account of the performance.
The only issue is the 3060 won't be out soon, but these 2070 are dead men walking and not worth touching without them losing several hundred dollars more in price. If you see a 2070 for under $500, it might be worth considering.
Honestly I don't think anything is going to happen in the brand new segment. When have brand new video cards from NVIDIA ever dropped dramatically in price?
@sane: GTX 1060 vs RX 580
GTX 1050 Ti vs RX 570
NVIDIA still have way too much over AMD:
Brand recognition.
Better reputation with drivers.
The DLSS 2.0 circlejerk.
Turing NVENC
The most powerful consumer card.
Also why didn't they reduce the price of the RTX 2060 Super? Or the 2070 Super?
Well the $aud is much better than a few weeks ago so prices should continue to fall, I doubt we've seen the bottom of the market for 2000 series.
Having said that I haven't seen a 2060 go close to the $459 shopping express had a couple of weeks ago.It seems like Umart has better prices than Shopping Express lately.
I don't understand why the 2070 and 2080 cards are not seeing bigger discounts.
I guess it will take another month or 2 when the 3000 series come out.my guess is all retailers are having trouble getting stock for 3000 series due to international restrictions.
However many are believing the 2000 series cards price WILL NOT DROP MUCH due to high demand vs low supply of graphics cards.
I rather believe there won't be price drops for now. If they do, once 3000 series are released, then its a good chacne to bargain hunt.
I have this card.
Runs very well… quiet and cool even when under high stress.I have been tracking the prices for cards in this region lately and $599 seems to be the 'normal' sale price of the 2060s galax, and $749 for the 2070s galax (with shopping square recently also doing the 3 fan for the same price). Given that this pricing is available quite frequently I expect there to be a bit more left to discount soon.
Heres to hoping the pricing of next gen isn't too ridiculous.
Ps. Should also come with R6!
If price is no concern, would you pick
a galax card or evga sc / xc edition card and why?
EVGA, best reputation and warranty in the biz. I also have no doubts that their cooler would be better, unless it's the budget-oriented "Black" edition.
🤘
Not saying Black is worse either, I just can't find any reviews on it and it's a cheaper model so no guarantees.
@Void: I think its more of superior cooling and silent operation.
But anyway they need to focus on releasing fewer products with clear differences… It’s a nightmare with their current product lineup to choose a card 🤦♂️.
i heard nvidia discontinued this card due to the 3000 series