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Apple iPad 2 16GB Wi-Fi + 3G FREE 2nd iPad 2 16GB Wi-Fi + 3G $750.75

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Ok - another one from the relatively unknown and untried itprocurement.com.au

Apple Ipad2 16GB Wi-Fi + 3G FREE 2nd Ipad2 16GB Wi-Fi + 3G $750.75

Also

Apple iPad2 32Gb Wi-Fi + 3G FREE 2nd iPad2 16Gb Wifi + 3G $900.90

and

Apple iPad2 64Gb Wi-Fi + 3G FREE 2nd iPad2 16Gb Wifi + 3G $1039.50

See discussions at;
http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/60681
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1817405 << EDIT - fixed link

No info on delivery costs, and the website does not allow you to order via Paypal or credit card, but reports on whirlpool confirmed credit card payments over the phone, and delivery of product when a similar deal to this was done previously.

Company has ABN etc and appears legit, but question marks over virtual offices etc. First registered as a business in March 2011, so also very new.

If this works, then deal is an absolute beauty. not quite free as the iPads can be had marginally cheaper than the price of the 'first' one, but not a significant amount. Prior to this, their previous price for a single same-spec iPad was $623.70.

I have taken the plunge myself… ordered over the net, chose postal order, and then requested a call for credit card details, as well as leaving my details in the 1300 number answering machine. New Years Day, so was not expecting a answer/call back until business is back open.

Will let you know how I go!

UPDATE

Received email via paypal from eglobal with paypal link, paid via credit card and paypal. Very tempted to go and buy another pair to sell off and completely fund the ASUS Transformer Prime when it is released :-)

Update 1.1 > Appears to be free delivery as well, as the paypal request was for $750.75, with delivery being 5 - 9 business days from receipt of payment.

I decided to get my children's parents one each as well.. :-)

Mod: We are jointly monitoring this deal on both here and Whirlpool. 2/1

FURTHER MOD EDIT This deal sounds great and it might just be that. Like everything that is a too good to be true deal, making an informed decision might benefit you greatly. Reading ALL of the better detailed insights below might benefit you before you make the decision.

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  • +3

    too good to be true…

    • But you'll spew if I I post photos of me with them and an invoice :-)
      We need one anyway for my daughter's high school, so I'm taking the risk…. you can buy the second one for $450 ;-)

      • +1

        deal :P

        • +2

          That can go towards my ASUS transformer I want!

    • +1

      was true… got mine :-)

  • wooow

  • +1

    definitely too good to be true…..
    there isn't that much markup in iPads…

  • That is pretty insane :o If you could pick them up at one of the offices then I'd +ve this

    • They don't have offices. Those addresses are "virtual offices" where they pay $100 a month for each one. See the comments of the linked in the ozbargain thread in the original post.

      EDIT Repeated for your convenience: http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/60681

  • +3

    Too good to be true.

    • +5

      Ok just to sum up the whirlpool thread - the only users who had positive experiences had less than 10 posts each, and we incredibly defensive about the company when their honestly was called into question. I.e clear sockpuppets.

      One user with a substantial posting history (14k posts) also had a positive expereience however his account name appears to be a real name and thus its not a stretch to think that the company honoured his transaction purely to gain reputation (given that they were already active in the thread and he had promised to let everyone know whether the ipads turned up).

      Of course you're all free to make your own decisions but im going to call this one a SCAM.

  • +1

    More info on whirlpool at
    http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1817405
    Quoting from later in the thread "The mobile number the guy called me back on is 0422 526 786"

  • If it looks too good to be true, then……………

    Watch this space. The site reminds me of MicroAssyst (if anyone has ever had a call from them…)

  • +1

    Took the plunge yesterday and pay by paypal,
    Let see how this goes, I won't positive it until I receive the goods.

    • Please keep updating for us. Happy new year !!

    • When you get it, ring up apple asking questions they will tell you if it's real or not

  • I placed an order as others have confirmed they received ipads (1000+ post users). Did EFT & wrote that I wanted to do the transaction via paypal just in case.

    • I think you mean 1000+ post user. Not users.

      • User - 1
        Users - More than 1

        • So, other than Rob J Krunski or whatever his name was, who with more than one thousand posts received an item?

        • Fair enough but there's a lot of feedback regarding eglobal who seem to be associated, otherwise you're correct, user.

        • +1

          Wow, you actually conceded a point.

          This is the internet, yeah? It doesn't feel like the internet right now.

  • Also placed an order and requested transaction via Paypal. Will update once they contact me…

    • -1

      Hmm… lodged my order at 11:28pm and have now received a Paypal request for payment at 11:38pm.

      "Thanks for your order. As requested here is the Paypal link to enable you to pay via credit card. The delivery timeframe is 5-9 business days once payment is received. If you have any questions please email [email protected].

      Regards,

      Accounts Team
      Internet Sales
      Eglobal"

      What to do..what to do lol

      • what to do xD

        • I figure paypal via credit card…. it's not me that's going to be $750 worse off.

  • +1

    going by the WP thread and the people who said they received their order either this is the best ipad deal out yet or it's a very elaborate scam indeed! ATM i'm erring on the side of caution since these days it's very easy to open multiple online accounts and 'pretend' to be someone else, and the comment about "the guy just rang me up and knows everything about me" sends shivers up my spine!

    • +1

      The only thing I'm worried about is they sent a few real ipads to bait more people in before running of with more $$, still paypal/cc will be the best method & you should get you're money back if it is a scam :/

      • +1

        yes i agree, but keep in mind you shouldn't rely entirely on paypal to help you out, paypal tend to help you with 'goods not received' complaints where ever you buy item but when it comes to 'goods not as described' complaints, only items bought on ebay and paid with paypal tend to have better protection from scammers/fakes etc, in my experience non ebay items paid with paypal have 2nd class protection, just my 2 cents based on years of ebaying

        • 2nd class protection is better than none.

  • Why is the whirlpool link in the OP to the thread about eglobaldigitalcameras? I don't think that's the same place…

  • Becarefull if unlucky u might get an delivery and open up you'll see 2 iFake 2 16MB 3G (made in china) lol

    Sounds too good $750 for 2 16Gb + 3G..
    Wish luck to all buyers.. Update if u recieved

  • Tried to contact them several times but always no response. Too good to be true.

    • +1

      1 - It's a public holiday.
      2 - It's Sunday.
      3 - It's after business hours.

      Pretty obvious that you're not going to get a 5 minute email response or have someone answer the phone.

  • With all these orders getting processed, how come the stock level (listed on their website where you order) is not going down?

    • When you go though the cart it does have a different stock number - showed as 40 at about 9.00pm (WST) (That was for the iPad 2 32Gb)

    • The orders are being placed, not processed. When they are processed, then the stock will reduce.

  • +3

    Am I the only one who thinks this guy is running a well planned and elaborate scam? i.e He honours the first 20 orders at his loss to gain the trust of people on the interwebz then proceed to scam the rest?

    • +2

      Here's hoping I'm number 2

  • yep looks dodgy to me,

    when a deal is too good to be true, you may end up being on SMH being the victim of scam

    Apple products come with less than 15% margins, go figure

    Your either buying a China Pad or your not getting anything at all.

    Good luck, I hope I'm wrong

    • +6

      *You're

  • Oh yeah. Just re-read the Whirlpool thread and they are mentioning that this "Jonathan" guy knows almost everything about them. i.e. googling them etc. Do I smell identity theft?

  • +6

    Their Perth address @ lvl 28 AMP Tower

    140 St. Georges Terrace
    Perth WA 6000

    is total BS. How do I know? I work in the AMP building. No such company on lvl28. I saw this a week ago here, so I headed up to check.

    • +1

      His addresses are all virtual offices that's provided by servcorp, I guess they provide outsourcing service like receptionist, meeting rooms etc,
      So it's like having an office without actually having it :) Never thought this kind of service exists though.

      • Perfect for those wishing to part fools with their hard earned.

  • +1

    This seems suss. I just google mapped their so called branch addresses but google maps doesn't mention that company is actually at that address.

    • Yeah, also they appear to support Flexirent. Haha very expensive way to pay…

  • Unless the company sent a few decoy real ipads and then stopped sending them, then this appears to be legit.

  • This seem so tempting….

  • -1

    Hmm, Looks like a Ponzi Scheme.

    • Wouldnt call this a Ponzi Scheme…

      • Kreuger Scheme?

  • +1

    looks dodgy. smells dodgy.

  • Ok I just went through with the Paypal/CC payment. Wish me luck :D

    Hope I can charge them back either via my bank or Paypal, heh.

    • How did you get paypal/cc payment?

      Did you go through with order then asked for their paypal details?

      I am just reading up on paypal to make sure that this is covered by them.

      edit.. i got the paypal email as well.

      But when i get to the paypal website the invoice just says "Goods - $750.xx". I have asked them for a proper paypal receipt just to be sure.

      • I requested them to send me a paypal money request to my email, they stated the item they are selling to me there and the amount of $$$.

        Then at the Paypal payment page I choose to pay with my CC.

        If things went wrong I hope 2 get 2 layer of protection unlike those condom only 1.

        Cheers and good luck xD

      • From: Eglobal([email protected])
        Amount: $750.75 AUD
        Status: Paid
        This money request or invoice was paid. See the transaction details for more information.
        Date Requested: 2 Jan 2012
        Subject: PayPal money request from Eglobal for Order 00215 (Apple iPad2 16Gb Wifi + 3G Promotion)
        Note: Hi,

        Thanks for your order. As requested here is the Paypal link to enable you to pay via credit card. The delivery timeframe is 5-9 business days once payment is received. If you have any questions please email [email protected].

        Regards,

        Accounts Team
        Internet Sales
        Eglobal

        • can you check your email from paypal asking eGlobal requesting money from you.. what does it say under description?

        • double post

  • +1

    After due consideration, ITS CRAP!

    • +1

      To supplement mattgal's and others' comments I've explained my conclusion below.

  • +3
    • +1

      Officially a scam!

      • +3

        very brazen at that! and you know what? assuming this is a scam you'd normally think paypal would have put a hold right about now on this fast growing paypal account but think about it-this guy is getting paid on new years holiday where the offices are mainly closed-what a genius move!

        • I don't think you need a human to freeze the account. Their software would/should recognize scam patterns. This is 2011. :)

        • +2

          actually it's 2012!
          i think the system will flag an account for suspicious activity but the decision to suspend the account is up to a human somewhere in an office block, i think that's what happened with that guy who wrote minecraft, his account got like a million $ really quick and PP thought it was sus and suspended it

        • mattgal nailed it. SCAM! SCAM! SCAM!

        • And same thing happened to Prices Engine as well.

    • The guy's name and mobile number also show up for this empty site as well, weird:
      http://fi.ip5.org/eglobalelearning.com

    • So they bought a flash template off some site that either they or others are using. And they made virtually no changes to it - this isn't the first time I have seen this sort of thing.

  • I'm erring on the side of caution. How are they able to sell 16GB wifi+3G iPads which have a RRP of $729 each for $375 and still make a profit?!…Think about it.

    Good luck to those who ordered. I hope it's genuine for your sake.

  • How many of you have taken the plunge?

  • important-thanks to a user on WP if you got a paypal payment link read this following post and DOUBLE CHECK the paypal link you were emailed! it could be a phishing attempt to scam you

    1. The lack of accessible PP/CC. (seriously this is a no brainer)
      Please remember that just because you got a paypal order email does not mean it is from paypal, these email are easy to forge/redirect to a honeypot site designed to collect password details.
    • +1

      Better still, always log in to paypal yourself, not using any link emailed to you.

      • it is definitely linking you to paypal.

        but xuqi is correct just log in urself from direct paypal site

  • I have been thinking about this in the last 1hr :) Couldn't get myself to sleep,
    The whirlpool user who receive the item (Rob J), receive the item in 4 weeks and it was sent by Express Platinum Australia Post,

    Now this is a drop ship company, would you think that the company would have directly sent it from overseas?

    • probably be cheaper for them to receive all ipads to their warehouse/office and then ship it locally.

      rather than ship individually to each buyer from overseas.

      • Then they would have to pay taxes and stuff. Definitely not.

    • +1

      And also wonders whether they still sponsor West Tigers,
      http://www.tigers.org.au/news/647/53/Wests-Tigers-continue-t…

      Jonathan was mentioned in the article,
      If this is a scam, this guy did almost an excellent job building his credibility (apart from his websites) by having his name and company sponsoring west tigers,

      He mention to me that he is not the CEO of the company but the article says that he is the Director.

  • My post from whirlpool regarding paypal

    http://whrl.pl/Rc2Ef7


    As a note, I've logged into my paypal account via www.paypal.com.au & I have an offical request for $750.

    From: Eglobal([email protected])
    To: Redmo0n ([email protected])
    Amount: $750.75 AUD
    Status: Pending
    You received this payment request but haven't paid it yet.
    Date Requested: 1 Jan 2012
    Subject: PayPal money request from Eglobal for Order 002XX (Apple iPad2 16Gb Wifi + 3G Promotion)

    Note: Hi Redmo0n,

    Thanks for your order. As requested here is the Paypal link to enable you to pay via credit card. The delivery timeframe is 5-9 business days once payment is received. If you have any questions please email [email protected].

    Regards,

    Accounts Team
    Internet Sales
    Eglobal


    As far as I can see this is legit, but there's still obviously a chance this is a scam, interesting to see how many people go ahead with it.

    • -1

      SCAM

      • +1

        Interesting counter argument.

        I'm going to sleep on it & see what others are saying tomorrow before going ahead.

        • Me too. I'm going to sleep on this before posting a -ve tomorrow, when i-pad-gate is announced. :)

        • Please don't buy into it!

  • hope someone has some luck…as it's very tempting

  • +8

    I hate scams which is why I negged this. This one is soooo OBVIOUS … for a myriad of reasons, many of which have already been posted by others (whoever negged me, instead of the scam, please note).

    Just to take a handful of examples from looking at the website, which doesn't bear the slightest scrutiny:

    1) The graphics on the website have been stolen from another website as detailed by mattgal - no reputable company should do that. Moreover, they have stolen a world map showing their global locations and none are shown in Australia, despite them listing elsewhere serviced offices with Servcorp in a number of cities.

    2) The narrative on the website - depending on where you look - is EITHER about a company that a) outsources IT or b) trains staff to retain customers - nowhere is it about selling iPads and suchlike which has been tacked on to the mess of a site.

    3) They show over 30 partners. Taking one at random, Microsoft, they claim to be a Gold certified partner - they are NOT. Microsoft lists its partners and this company is not one of them. An unrelated company e-global in Malaysia IS a partner, but it has nothing to do with this operation.

    4) There's the (evidently still) obligatory grammatical giveaway not picked up by the spell check or their English 'expert' : "Companies thrive to find a technology partner who …" …. they meant 'strive'.

    I could go on ad infinitum but its late … please don't waste your time on this SCAM.

    • +1

      Mxyzptik.

      Now you realise WHY we ask for some "Reason" for negging a deal.

      Thank you for providing that. Negging a deal is an very important tool for warning people of an issue you see. It really decreases the value of this tool when people just post one word negs or generic "scam" comments.

      We know you dont like a deal purely by the fact you negged it. We want to understand why so we can assess for ourselves if that warning can be used by us.

      This last post is 1000 times more effective than your first posts. Thank you for the valuable insights and the time you have taken to explain your thoughts. That benefits the community so much better than just posting "scam"

      The only issue is that not everyone will scroll down to read this post of yours, so your neg vote might be removed by others seeing your first comment above. Now everyone may lose the benefits of your insight. If you read this you might want to edit your original comments and point to these insights.

      • Ozpete,

        Point taken, but I thought it had already been covered by others, so I also formally reported the 'deal' referring to mattgal's post so that Ozbargain could put a CLEARer warning right up front, something which I cannot do.

        • +3

          Yes REPORTING alerts mods to an issue, and thank you for doing that. Thats another valuable tool.

          Negging a deal highlights to others there is something wrong. Many will just scroll down to see the neg comment and skip the other comments. So it can actually detract from something others say.

          Please accept that my comments on this are really trying to help, JUST like your detailed summation also will help. I wouldn't like these to be lost on the community because some neg your original post.

          And if only many could really understand why the mods dont like the tool being misused… Again not a personal attack just a great opportunity to again clarify what the power of a correctly used neg vote bestows on the community

        • No worries … and thanks for your work and the site.

    • +2

      The random list of partners is hardly believable, and the text is pretty awful,
      but the site and the map are the same because they're template-based websites: http://www.templatemonster.com/flash-templates/29192.html

      So they aren't stolen graphics. Just purchased.

      • True. Thanks … & they claim nearly 300 employees nationally.

  • +2

    Another point on Paypal., which at this time its too late in the night for me to check, so confirm this for yourself.

    I thought Paypal protect applies only to purchases made thru ebay. Protection may not apply for purchases outside the ebay system…

    Again someone might have a link to confirm or deny this. I mention it only in case it might help

    A second thought

    Most of iPad deals being offered around save around the tens of dollars over some other offering. Most by being gray market imports. This is by far the greatest discount being offered by anyone on an iPad. Even when a new model iPad is being introduced the discount on the older version never amounted to this much of a discount. And as of less than a month ago iPads were in short supply.

    Like all bargain hunters I hate the thought of losing a deal, but given the timing of this PLUS they had a deal posted here a few days ago which wasnt anywhere as attractive as this deal. Both over the holiday period when the ability for anyone to really scrutinise this deal, rings alarm bells for me.

    Its sooo out of character for Apple to provide ANY company let alone an virtually unknown business such an attractive buying deal. I doubt even large corporates get a deal like this. AND this company has to make a profit as well.

    But I have been wrong before, however my bargain nose smells a RAT, and with that amount of money at stake, its going to take a lot of discounted pizza's to make up for the loss.

    And a quick sqizz of Paypal Australia shows this

    Amounts that you may receive under PayPal’s Buyer Protection Policy.

    IMPORTANT: For purchases made on www.ebay.com.au there is a maximum discretionary payment amount of $20,000.00 AUD.

    PayPal is not obliged to pay any amount at all, or if it does decide to make a payment, to pay the maximum amount set out – you may, at PayPal's discretion, receive a payment which is less than the maximum of $20,000.00 AUD, but PayPal will not pay more than the maximum discretionary amount.

    …….

    1. Purchase from www.ebay.com.au

      This PayPal Buyer Protection Policy only applies to eligible purchases made on www.ebay.com.au. If at the time of purchase the eligible item listing did not have a notation on it stating that it may be eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection you will not be entitled to be considered under this policy.

    Read more details here

    http://pages.ebay.com.au/paypal/buyer-protection-policy.html

    Note above

    PAYPAL has discretion - not guaranteed
    Ebay purchases.

    • i don't think that is completely correct. i just read the paypal t&cs https://cms.paypal.com/au/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&conte… . note item c (iii). however this might not apply to the payment process going on.

      4.1. You may be eligible for the PayPal Buyer Protection Policy if the following eligibility requirements are met:

      a. you use PayPal as your payment method when you make the payment; and

      b. your payment is less than $20,000.00; and

      c. your payment is not a personal transaction payment and is made through:
      i. an eBay “Pay Now” button or an eBay invoice; or
      ii. the “Send Money” button of your Account by selecting “eBay Item” and entering your eBay User ID and the eBay item number for purchases on eBay; or
      iii. the “Send Money” tab on our Website, by clicking the “Purchase” tab, or by selecting the “Checkout with PayPal” button or otherwise selecting PayPal as part of a Seller’s PayPal checkout flow; and

      d. your payment is made from your Account and not directly from a Credit Card processed through our Website Payments Pro or Virtual Terminal service; and

      e. pay the full amount of the item in one payment. Items purchased with multiple payments – like a deposit followed by a final payment – are not eligible; and

      f. Item Not Received or item received but Significantly Not As Described; and

    • +2

      Guess its too early in the morning to try to read all the clauses so again warning to all dont make an assumption or purchase until you do some checking in detail. Maybe even ring or make written contact with paypal on this.

      I did see this clause again in your link

      1.5. Where we are unable to recover the whole or any part of your payment from the seller we may in our absolute and sole discretion, decide to make an ex gratia payment. Please note payment by us under the PayPal Buyer Protection Policy is at our absolute and sole discretion. You have no automatic entitlement to receive any payments. The PayPal Buyer Protection Policy does not indemnify you for loss which may incur and it is not a contract of insurance.

      Note Ex-gratia and not a contract of insurance AND implies that they need to recover money first, before they pay out. And if its a scam will they be able to RECOVER any money at all.. Ah maybe a law degree and a QC is going to be needed.. all for a cheap iPad which the OP is going to resell and make a profit on!!
      Gotta get some sleep

      • PayPal payment where a credit card is used is a simple reversal. Where bank accounts are involved it appears to be more difficult, and usually where ex gratia payments are used when problems arise. If the authority to access the bank account is removed then PayPal cannot get the money back, and will usually not bear the majority of the loss themsleves.

        A dispute via Credit Card Buyer protection is another layer I guess.

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