Operating system Windows 10 Home 64
Processor AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X (3.6 GHz base clock, up to 4.4 GHz max boost clock, 32 MB L3 cache, 8 cores)
Memory 16 GB DDR4-2666 SDRAM (1 x 16 GB)
Memory Note Transfer rates up to 2666 MT/s.
Hard drive description 1 TB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
Graphics NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 2060 (6 GB GDDR6 dedicated)
Ages 5 and up. There's some small parts they might nibble on.
I just bought this for no reason
Why the (profanity) do I come on Ozbargain
Hmmmm, what's your PC now?
Corsair One Pro. 7700k/GTX1080/16Gb/500Gb SSD/1tb HDD fully water-cooled.
Probably resell for same price as this to be honest
Oh well in that case it's a no-brainer, good deal.
Isn't a 2060 worse than a 1080?
@Trance N Dance: Yeah, but DLSS and Raytracing.
Makes it not worse.
Plus now I have warranty, a way faster CPU with double cores, larger NVME and…warranty
@Dvbargain: On the bright side, the second hand computer parts market is absolutely ga-ga right now so you can actually sell off your current system without too much of a loss.
@FireRunner: Can you explain to an idiot (me) why it's a downgrade? I'm only just learning the ins and outs of graphics cards, and my understanding is that in layman's terms, the 10 in 1080 is the generation and the 80 is how powerful it is, so it's obviously better than the 1060 and the 1070.
Are the next generation 2060 'entry level' cards really no better than the top of the previous generation?
There's probably loads more to it though, like VRAM, cores, etc, but I haven't managed to understand those yet.
I imagine though that surely the 3060 is better than the 1080? Or is this like comparing apples to oranges?
@SydShopCat: Yeah, the "10" is the generation
"50" cards are entry level
"60" cards are mid range cards
"70" are high end
"80" are the flagship/top model
Generally the mid range card doesn't outperform last generation's top end. I believe the 1070 and 2060 are about equals in terms of performance.
@FireRunner: That's really helpful, thanks for your reply.
Generally the mid range card doesn't outperform last generation's top end.
This especially is a useful rule of thumb for me to keep in mind.
That's mostly a sidegrade for you… I'd look to cancel.
@FireRunner: PSU must have pcie cables if it's running an RTX2060, plus it supports up to 16Gb sticks of 3200Mhz RAM. Could upgrade to a similar power usage 3060 when they become available and warranty is gone on this as a pre-built.
Looks to be room in the case for it.
Also has SATA ports I assume, so can add more HDD space.
This is far from the deal of the century, but considering today's market it's pretty good.
@Dvbargain: It's a decent price but it doesn't seem like a worthwhile upgrade from your current build. But I guess if you're happy with it then just go for it (which you already have lol)
@Dvbargain: mate look into what ram this thing takes and order an extra stick. Single channel is gonna make that 2060 feel like a 1060.
@jasswolf: 2060 super would be a side grade, the 2060 is about 10% slower, also 2GB less VRAM. You could chuck the 1080 in the new rig and sell the 2060 with your old system.
@Hank Scorpion: 2060 matches or exceeds the 1080 in modern titles, and neither one is pushing past 1440p, so VRAM is only a concern in non-DLSS texture or RT edge cases.
The system price is inflated, especially when up against TechFast builds, because the parts aren't going to be better, just a mildly sleeker case design.
This was a straight panic buy, and it can still be cancelled or returned, so I'm not interested in running scenarios to justify it.
make sure to grab another 1x16 stick or 2x8gb sticks and sell the 1x16 as 1x16 will suck in games
should by another one.. for no reason
Yeah. Use the two computers in SLI.
I bought 5 for no reason !
Ozbargain membership expiry extended to 2025.
Would you resell it?
Lol it's my main rig now so nah, kills the GTX1080 I had in DLSS 2.0 enabled games
And sold old rig for same price I paid for this lol
Not a bad price, someone just posted the 3700x on ozbargain yesterday for $437- https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/618144
Yeh i found this and posed it in the other omen thread about an hour ago not a bad deal https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/618412
2060's are at ~$800 and 3700x ~$500 so in this market its a great price system.
Biggest problem is the 1x16gb 2666 ram
Can't you just throw in another 16gb 2666 stick
u can but ryzens 3xxx runs like sht on anything < 3000mhz
Depends what you're comparing it to really. Shit compared to full capability probably true.
@Jaduqimon: For sure. Agreed that it's a stupid move.
Pretty sure it's still an upgrade from my 7700k for any games that can utilise more than four cores anyway. Or general compute tasks with double the cores.
@Dvbargain: nah i think 7700k still beats the 3700x on like 90% of games. 7700k also more overclockable than 3700x.
general compute tasks definitely ryzen. but it wouldnt be that much of an upgrade from 7700K TO 3700X
@Jaduqimon: Maybe. I'll find out if I notice anything haha.
Tbh the 7700k in my prebuilt gets so fkin hot even under water-cooling that I wouldn't overclock it at all.
Bloody hot chips without delidding or water-cooling custom loops
@Dvbargain: Check the paste, if it hasn't been changed since it was built there's a good chance the paste needs replacing. It's at that age if you got it new.
@Trance N Dance: Yeha can't be assed. Full water-cooling loop in a pre-built ITX rig. But I agree, paste would likely help.
@Jaduqimon: It's a Corsair One Pro. Changing absolutely anything in it would be a pain in the royal something
Eh, I just realised that after a bios update my RAM had dropped back to 2666MHz and after changing it back to 3200MHz it really didn't make a perceptible difference with a Ryzen 3600.
You could but for an extra $100 (on top of the cost of 1 x 16gb DIMM) you should just replace it with a 2x16gb 3200mhz+ kit.
If the mobo supports it. I do happen to have a 3200Mhz CL16 kit sitting here. Might swap it out.
Why do manufacturer's put single slot RAM in their pre-builts?!?
It's an easy enough fix but for those clueless about PCs (probably the larger part of customers during normal times) will have their gaming performance weakened for no reason
Get rid of old parts stock most likely.
Saves them a few bucks… Wonder where else they cut corners.
Point-of-sale upselling/upgrades.
Could you take the GPU out of this and put in another system until 30series come in stock again?
It should work
3700x has no IGPU
GPU will work in other systems but yeah good point, the HP will become unusable without a dedicated GPU
Make sure you replace it with a different card then as this PC has no integrated graphics.
Tiny case, surely there'll be thermal issues?
Isn’t this better deal for $250 more (after 15% discount )
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Asus-GAMING-DESKTOP-PC-ROG-Strix…
Refurb
12 months asus warranty … don’t know if this is the case but usually they are just used for a gaming event and then put up for sale …
Thats a terrible deal at that price.
"Condition:Seller refurbished
(Laptop is refurbished by Asus , it comes with a 12 month Asus Australia pick up return warranty with ”
(emphasis mine)
So seller refurbished from a seller with 98.9% who can't be bothered checking his description and a bad price to boot. Bargain!
This is likely going to be a QLC SSD of some form.
Would this board take a Ryzen 5 2600 or 1600?
Id love to take the 3700x for myself and resell with a Lower cpu.
According to the page that HP has showing the motherboard's specs, it doesn't look possible, only 3000 series chips at the moment at least.
Have a look if you want under "Processor upgrade information".
https://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c06418627
Very useful.
Thanks.
Hello. Would this game be able to play esport titles at 1080p high settings? Never owned a pc before just have a laptop.
Yeah should be more than enough.
You will struggle to get a monitor that can keep up with the frames. Make sure you get a 240hz monitor or 144hz minimum for 1080p eSports on this system.
This probably comes with the ridiculous amount of freeware most HP pc's do…
Man and to think that Microsoft was taken to court over bundling internet explorer…
Now it's industry standard that all our phones and PCs come with garbage :S
delete it haha
Just reset Windows.
It doesn't work unless you wipe it and start from scratch.
Pretty much all prebuilts will come with bloatware not just HP.
Some are worse, not sure where HP stands.
Best to fresh install Windows
^This or the techfast build for a $100 more with RTX 3060 albeit with a slower processer 3500x here https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/616034
this i would say. The 3500x is has no multi-thread (6 cores, 6 threads) which is shit nowadays. Even old 4th gen intel chips like 4770k's (4cores, 8 threads) perform better in some cases.
So this 3700x (8 cores, 16 threads) is a much better platform to work with imo. You can slot in a new gpu when things are back to normal prices and play at 1080p with decent fps for the tiem being.
Its definitely a use case and you need to decide what you want it for and how long you'd be keeping it for. If it was my money, i'd be buying this over the techfast build anyday.
I suspect with such a small case you'll struggle putting a 30 series card into the HP, but I cant find any teardowns.
This PC (not the same spec, but same case) was featured in this YT video
https://youtu.be/P1w-y6e0vs8?t=202
It does look like it could accommodate lower end 30-series GPU's. It would have to be strictly dual-slot cooler, not one of those extra chonky ones that take up 2.5 slots and has 3 fans.
@scrimshaw: This looks similar too, the last pic has a mock up of the layout:
https://www.harveynorman.com.au/hp-pavilion-tg01-i7-9700f-16…
@Nalar: There are small 30xx series cards out there (just overpriced atm). My zotac 3070 is one of the smallest cards I've owned in the last 10 years.
It is different pc. Hard to compare
i feel so sorry for how starved that infinity fabric will be, just eating crumbs at this point.
Would this be good for mining ethereum? Would it need an extra fan installed?
Is it worth to pay an additional $121 for the 3 year 3 day onsite desktop service?
I had 2 Pavilion pcs back in the day. First in '99 for school work… a p2-350mhz….. then another in 2005 which was a P4 2.4 ghz. The performance jump was great, even better after I swapped video cards. Funny thing was that the 99 Pavilion cost nearly $3000 whereas the 2005 Pavilion was $1000 but wayyy better. Technology improved yet became cheaper.
I've watched many YouTube reviews on pre-built computers and the biggest problem with most pre-built computers is the use of slow speed single channel ram. Which reduces performance on an otherwise good spec PC. With the inflated cost of new and hard to get video cards these days it may be better value to buy a pre-built to acquire one.
Seems to be out of stock in all postcodes
It says that for my postcode, but I ordered one fine about half an hour ago.
Considering it's delivery, just try to order it - I suspect it will work for you.
Does anyone know much about MB? How many SATA ports, M2 slots? Which brand is that?
Looks like out of stock.
Product Specs: https://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c06993129
Mother board : https://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c06418627
Hey. So can I use this Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz C16 to replace the single stick? Sheet says 3200 can be supported
Yes
Thanks!
Be careful.
I acquired a strix prebuilt that I sold locally, the customer wanted 32GB ram, so I took the identical ram stick out of a Pavilion (9700F+1650), the Strix rig was fine with the 32GB, but I tried to put 16GB of Corsair LPX and instantly started getting beep codes. After 20 mins I got a display and the BIOS was corrupt. Then I had to repair the BIOS, eventually it worked with the LPX, but I'd be careful if you aren't tech savvy.
Will do. Thanks for the heads up.
I ended up cancelling mine (decided I didn't need it). Does anyone know how long it usually takes HP to refund?
is it ok for kids