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        • slipperypete on 10/08/2021 - 14:29
          +10

          It's funny how there are certain words that conspiracy theorists use….probably the most commonly used one is 'sheeple'

          The irony is not lost to most people that ALL conspiracy theorists use this word….and they all think they're being original

          • IdBuyThatForADollar on 10/08/2021 - 16:07
            +7

            @slipperypete: Are we still saying "Conspiracy theorists?" I thought they were just "spoiler alerts" by now. :P

            • slipperypete on 10/08/2021 - 18:43

              @IdBuyThatForADollar: Ha ha yeah I'm still saying conspiracy theorists.

              Now here is an interesting thought…..

              I don't think all anti vaxxers are conspiracy theorists but I can guarantee ALL conspiracy theorists are anti vaxxers

              Lots of people are skeptical of vaccines but the conspiracy crew will always jump on the bandwagon because their fav youtube channel tells them to be so

              Not saying that is 100% true but just my thoughts

          • 1st-Amendment on 10/08/2021 - 17:31
            +1

            @slipperypete:

            and they all think they're being original

            You know what all people think? Does that keep you awake at night?

            • slipperypete on 10/08/2021 - 18:37
              +5

              @1st-Amendment:

              You know what all people think?

              Nah just conspiracy theorists…..they haven't an original thought in their body!!

              They fall for every single thing their favourite facebook page or youtube channel tells them.

              Not saying there isn't a place for them or that some things need to be scrutinised but they are all SUCH A BUNCH OF PARROTS in their language and thinking

              Does that keep you awake at night?

              No but it is entertaining to read their comments when I get bored of watching cat videos

          • imurgod on 11/08/2021 - 08:29
            +3

            @slipperypete: The irony, of course, is that they are the sheep, blindly following the most misinformed, nut bags on the internet over sound medical advice.

          • hoxygt on 11/08/2021 - 18:37
            +1

            @slipperypete: and they think they 'think for themselves', lol!

      • D1977 on 10/08/2021 - 13:07
        +2

        Does Sputnik count?

        • Danthemanz on 10/08/2021 - 14:45
          +14

          Yes, but you only receive 60% of the newsletter.

      • bio on 10/08/2021 - 14:03
        +2

        This is discrimination against a minority (20%)!

        • incipient on 10/08/2021 - 14:07

          Just because someone will take you seriously lol. No it's not. There are plenty of limited redemption offers.

          • bio on 10/08/2021 - 14:11
            +3

            @incipient: Haha, I was kidding but your reply would not address it anyway. The last 20% will probably be immunocompromised people and minors, technically a minority (no pun intended). The 80% clause is not your usual "first in best dressed" fine print.

            • incipient on 10/08/2021 - 14:25
              +1

              @bio: Ahh true.

              Would be the same as someone that doesn't have a high enough salary to be eligible for a credit card points offer.

            • [Deactivated] on 10/08/2021 - 14:57
              +1

              @bio: We are vaccinating our leukaemia and Aids patients. We are giving second doses to people who had potentially deadly anaphylaxis to the first dose. I do not think you will find the people who medically can not be vaccinated to make up anywhere near even 1% of the adult population.

              • bio on 10/08/2021 - 16:29

                @[Deactivated]: Anti-vaxxers are a minority as well and they should not be discriminated. /s

              • grant17 on 11/08/2021 - 07:47
                +1

                @[Deactivated]: I agree with the overall sentiment of your statement, but there is absolutely no way we are giving people their second dose if they had anaphylaxis or a serious allergy to the first dose. That would be extremely dangerous.

                Other than serious allergy, there are essentially no medical reasons not to have a vaccine. There are reasons to get one vaccine over another, but close to no reasons to get no vaccine.

                • grant17 on 11/08/2021 - 07:53
                  +1

                  @grant17: Further to that, if someone did have a serious allergy, they will be referred to the Special Immunisation Service (or the non Vic equivalent to this) to make a plan regarding vaccination. They would very likely to be able to receive another covid vaccine based on their advice.

                • [Deactivated] on 11/08/2021 - 20:12
                  +1

                  @grant17: Well we absolutely are. The immunology department at the Royal Brisbane for example is running a clinic exactly for that. It is risky, but it's managable and we want them successfully vaccinated. The tricky part is dampening the excessive immune response to prevent the severe allergy, but not in a way that will interfere with the effectiveness of the shot. Source: Me having discussed this directly with said clinic after dealing with someone having anaphylaxis from their pfizer shot. At that time, the plan was still to give a second pfizer, not an alternative vaccine. Times may change but that's how it was a few weeks ago.

                  To clarify, I'm not at all saying you should just go to your GP for a jab if you've had a serious allergy to the first! Apologies if that's how it came across. You need specialist immunology input.

      • Hall-fg on 10/08/2021 - 17:52
        +3

        I think that this is a great idea and appreciate the intent to encourage people to be vacinated.

        I read see some comments up above of some numpty about "legal action".

        I'll be watching this space closely but if does not land you in hot water I'd be looking to do something similar.

    • jaygee on 10/08/2021 - 12:48

      In most states, anyone over 16 is eligible to get the shot, what's the issue?

      • ets27 on 10/08/2021 - 12:55

        Not disclosing here..

      • PonyTable on 10/08/2021 - 14:41

        Possibly from a state that isn't included in "most"

      • Sabs on 10/08/2021 - 14:48
        +1

        People who are undergoing treatment that compromises their immune system, like chemotherapy, is one example.

        • jackary on 10/08/2021 - 16:23
          +5

          I work in aged care and have a client who’s undergoing chemotherapy for bowel cancer and has received his shot of AZ… they just gave it to him a day or so after.

    • JimmyF on 10/08/2021 - 12:52
      +9

      How about people like me that are keen to get the shot but they can't yet???

      Everyone 18+ can book for the AZ…….

        • JimmyF on 10/08/2021 - 13:45
          +8

          Yeah nah, you might need to go 'get informed'.

          • ets27 on 10/08/2021 - 14:03
            -1

            @JimmyF: Ok ignorant. Cheers.

            • JimmyF on 10/08/2021 - 14:22
              +2

              @ets27: I'm ignorant? You're the one claiming you can't get a vaccine, which is untrue.

              • ets27 on 10/08/2021 - 14:43

                @JimmyF: Yes and arrogant too. You don't know my background so just don't say anything.

                • JimmyF on 10/08/2021 - 14:52
                  +1

                  @ets27: So I've moved from ignorant to arrogant now? Cool. Still doesn't chance you are the one making false claims that you can't get a shot. Which is totally NOT true.

                  How about people like me that are keen to get the shot but they can't yet???

                  So rather than attacking people, do tell us then, why you can't get a shot?

                  • ets27 on 10/08/2021 - 14:53
                    -3

                    @JimmyF: I am not disclosing medical info to an arrogant that knows my healt condition better than me.
                    Use Dr. Google and you will find your answers.
                    bye.

                    • JimmyF on 10/08/2021 - 14:55
                      +2

                      @ets27: I googled it and Dr Google said you have no health issues that would stop you getting a vax.

                      Anyhow, roll the dice with covid, its your choice.

        • Sabs on 10/08/2021 - 14:51
          +2

          Sorry you're getting downvoted, ets27. And I'm even sorrier if you have immune response issues due to a health issue. I hope you stay safe.

          • ets27 on 10/08/2021 - 14:52

            @Sabs: Thanks.
            It would be nice if the above would understand but I believe it is impossible.

          • JimmyF on 10/08/2021 - 14:53
            -5

            @Sabs: Sounds like even more of a reason to get the vax then.

            • Sabs on 10/08/2021 - 14:59
              +2

              @JimmyF: Seriously, dude? People who are undergoing chemotherapy essentially have their immune system wiped out. They CANNOT mount an immune response. Getting vaccinated is pretty much pointless because they will not gain any immunity from the disease.

              • JimmyF on 10/08/2021 - 15:15
                -1

                @Sabs: Yes seriously dude… Who would know what there issue is, as they keep saying……. They are Not disclosing here.. why they can't get it for whatever reason.

                So all we can only assume is tHeY DoN'T WanT iT as 18+ can get it without questions.

                BTW https://www.canceraustralia.gov.au/covid-19-vaccine-and-canc…

                and

                https://www.health.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0024/10…

                Therefore, it would be recommended that patients with cancer should receive the COVID-19 vaccine, as stratified by factors such as age and clinicians should not hold or pause cancer directed therapy for vaccination and only if feasible, time first dose of vaccine in between chemotherapy cycles, and away from nadir period.

                • Sabs on 10/08/2021 - 16:00
                  -1

                  @JimmyF: I don't want to argue about this with a layperson. You'll find most oncologists are not recommending vaccination for patients currently undergoing chemotherapy because there is little high quality evidence to suggest it's worthwhile, even if it's considered "safe". As I said, patients with a compromised immune system cannot typically mount an adequate immune response, depending on certain individual factors.

                  • JimmyF on 10/08/2021 - 16:42
                    +5

                    @Sabs:

                    I don't want to argue about this with a layperson. You'll find most oncologists are not recommending vaccination for patients currently undergoing chemotherapy because

                    You're not arguing with a 'layperson' about this, you're now arguing with cancer australia gov website and the qld health websites I linked above, which is what your 'oncologists' source their information from. Which clearly say they recommend that patients with cancer should receive the COVID-19 vaccine doses in between chemotherapy cycles.

                    • renlireb on 10/08/2021 - 20:10
                      +1

                      @JimmyF: how condescending

                      not all immunocompromised are able to receive the vaccine. it depends on their specific risk profile

                      https://immunisationhandbook.health.gov.au/vaccination-for-s…

                      • JimmyF on 10/08/2021 - 20:28
                        -2

                        @renlireb: Considering ets27 hasn't SAID why they can't get the vax, and Sabs just pulled some random health issue out of the air. Who are you to say who is condescending here.

                        Too bad your 'supporting' link doesn't say a single thing about the COVID vaccine…..

                        Try this one

                        https://mvec.mcri.edu.au/references/covid-19-vaccines-in-peo…

                        First sentence says

                        COVID-19 vaccination is recommended for all people who are immunocompromised due to the increased risk of developing severe disease if exposed to SARS-CoV-2. All COVID-19 vaccines in Australia are inactivated (non-live) vaccines

                        So yeah… or are you going to say the Melbourne Vaccine Education Centre has no idea what they're talking about as well?

                        • renlireb on 11/08/2021 - 01:19
                          +1

                          @JimmyF: clapclap you can read a couple of sentences from a webpage while ignoring the rest of the page hahahahaha

                          The following guidance encompasses a broad group of conditions and therapies, as well as providing specific recommendations and/or links where available:

                          first of all, your own link indicates that it is a guidance for a broad group of conditions and therapies. this already implies that there will be edge cases where the recommended advice does not always apply.

                          secondly, but more importantly,

                          Administration of COVID-19 vaccine should be planned with the treating specialist and in some instances, the timing of immune suppressive therapies may be altered to increase the response to vaccination.

                          if you've read the links you've posted, the overlying theme is that any vaccination for immunocompromised patients should be in consultation with their physician. maybe, just Maybe ets27, whom explicitly mentioned that it is a health condition and seems to be in frequent contact with their physician, has already had this conversation and was told that the vaccine was not currently recommended due to their condition/treatment (seeing their earlier post where they are receptive to a vaccine but cannot take one yet).

                          do you know their treatment regiment or their health condition? who are you to say that they can take the vaccine right now?

                          (profanity) me you are arrogant. i mean, good on you for recommending people to take the vaccine, but holy shit, get over yourself lol you aren't their doctor

                          • JimmyF on 11/08/2021 - 09:54
                            +1

                            @renlireb:

                            do you know their treatment regiment or their health condition? who are you to say that they can take the vaccine right now?

                            If you cast your eyes back over the thread, ets27 story changes. The thread starts here https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/10862260/redir

                            ets27 claimed they are keen to get it but can't get it yet. I pointed out anyone 18+ in can get AZ (they are in NSW), the story changed to Not really. Get informed, then calling me ignorant, then arrogant, as I disagree with them saying they can't get it when the they can. The story changes yet again to I don't know their background, then finally to a health condition stopping them from getting it.

                            Odd at the start of the thread, they claimed "keen to get the shot but they can't yet". Which is code for waiting for pfizer as they are keen to take a vaccine if was was available to them.

                            (profanity) me you are arrogant. i mean, good on you for recommending people to take the vaccine, but holy shit, get over yourself lol you aren't their doctor

                            Neither are you anyones doctor here, but here you are giving advice just like the rest of us.

                            immunocompromised patients should be in consultation with their physician. maybe, just Maybe ets27, whom explicitly mentioned that it is a health condition

                            As I've said, ets27 hasn't said what the issue is.

                            Most people who claim a open ended 'health condition' without detail for not getting the vaccine are normally the same people that claim 'medical condition' for not wanting to wear a mask.

                            Honestly Its ets27 choice, take the vaccine or don't. I don't care, just don't make false claims its not available when it is.

                            • renlireb on 11/08/2021 - 11:01

                              @JimmyF: first of all, there's no changes in the story. while anyone 18+ is eligible for the AZ shot, not anyone can get the shot. like it has been pointed out by multiple other people, there are groups of people where they cannot, such as the immunocompromised. in these cases, the physician should be their primary contact for their immunisation status - not you lol

                              consider yourself informed now?

                              Odd at the start of the thread, they claimed "keen to get the shot but they can't yet". Which is code for waiting for pfizer as they are keen to take a vaccine if was was available to them.

                              ???????????

                              what is this "code" bullshit ahahahaha

                              Neither are you anyones doctor here, but here you are giving advice just like the rest of us.

                              i did not give advice? i'm telling you that, if anyone knows best of their own health condition, it is the thread starter in conjunction with their physician. i suppose if they're looking for advice, then i'd say for them to listen to their physician and not some professor of google. imagine having this person tell their specialist: "nah you're wrong because JimmyF on ozbargain with the updated health.gov link said so".

                              As I've said, ets27 hasn't said what the issue is.
                              Most people who claim a open ended 'health condition' without detail for not getting the vaccine are normally the same people that claim 'medical condition' for not wanting to wear a mask.
                              Honestly Its ets27 choice, take the vaccine or don't. I don't care, just don't make false claims its not available when it is.

                              holy shit, can you be any more insensitive? not everyone wants to make their private health conditions known on a forum for bargains.

                              i dont even know how to answer the rest of this garbage. like you've said, i dont doubt that some people will make the claims you've highlighted, but for whatever reason, you've assumed that ets27 was part of this group of people.

                              nah dude, what i see is JimmyF doubling down multiple times and refusing to acknowledge the edge cases where the vaccine may not be recommended.

                              i empathise with ets, because the covid pandemic can be extra scary for people that cannot take the vaccine.

                              • JimmyF on 11/08/2021 - 12:02

                                @renlireb:

                                like you've said, i dont doubt that some people will make the claims you've highlighted, but for whatever reason, you've assumed that ets27 was part of this group of people.

                                So you agree people make these claims, but clearly it couldn't be anyone that posts on ozbargain.

                                like it has been pointed out by multiple other people, there are groups of people where they cannot, such as the immunocompromised

                                and it has been pointed out this is rarely a reason to stop anyone getting the vax.

                                This person has NEVER claimed to be immunocompromised, that is the anti vaxes jumping in claiming 'reasons' on their behave.

                                doubling down multiple times and refusing to acknowledge the edge cases where the vaccine may not be recommended.

                                as you double down to claim this person is a 'edge' case without any knowledge.

                                Heck even people undergoing chemotherapy for bowel cancer are getting the AZ.

                                https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/10864855/redir

                                i empathise with ets, because the covid pandemic can be extra scary for people that cannot take the vaccine.

                                You can empathise with someone who is waiting for pfizer all you like. As I said that is their choice, just don't spread FUD saying a vaccine its not available as this is just not true.

                                • renlireb on 11/08/2021 - 16:54
                                  -1

                                  @JimmyF: this is the situation that is being played out:

                                  we have someone that literally said "what about me who's keen to get the vaccine but cannot yet"

                                  you: "yes you can"
                                  them: "no i can't, don't want to elaborate on my personal health issues"
                                  you: "you are lying and you just don't want to get the vaccine here's some gov info"

                                  and it has been pointed out this is rarely a reason to stop anyone getting the vax.
                                  Heck even people undergoing chemotherapy for bowel cancer are getting the AZ.
                                  This person has NEVER claimed to be immunocompromised, that is the anti vaxes jumping in claiming 'reasons' on their behave.

                                  perhaps consider that not everyone goes through the same treatment regime? like it's been stated earlier that you've conveniently neglected - perhaps the person's physician knows better to when would be an ideal time to get the vaccine?

                                  mate, i'm all about the go get your vax, took the az when i'm eligible, for vax-passports, for snap lockdowns since vic early 2020, tell my eligible mates that there's no issue etc etc.

                                  it's not even FUD, there's nothing anti-vax with what any of them have said regarding vaccination + being immunocompromised. instead, you've just been decrepit flog towards ets+multiple others for no just reason. accept that not everyone currently can go get the vaccine.

                                  You can empathise with someone who is waiting for pfizer all you like.

                                  person: "(health condition)"
                                  you: "you're lying, you're waiting for pfizer"

                                  weird as

              • jackary on 10/08/2021 - 16:26
                +5

                @Sabs: This statement is incorrect. I can see your intentions are good, but before chastising others to “educate themselves”, I suggest you do the same.

              • Hall-fg on 10/08/2021 - 17:55

                @Sabs: Was not aware - but shows that we do need to be aware of this demographic.

      • Tyrx on 10/08/2021 - 17:34

        The bulk of general practitioners will repeat the ATAGI advice to any young person who asks, which is that the risks of the AZ vaccine outweighs their individual risk factor of Covid and that they wouldn't recommend getting it if they can wait. That advice changes if you're in a hotspot due to the increased risk factor, but the medical advice for the bulk of young people is that they should wait.

        With supply increasing of Pfizer and Moderna, it's possible that those young people will be fully vaccinated quicker than if they get the AZ vaccine now too. You can decrease the time between doses, but that reduces efficiencies and nobody knows when boosters will be available to that cohort.

        • JimmyF on 10/08/2021 - 19:22

          That advice changes if you're in a hotspot due to the increased risk factor, but the medical advice for the bulk of young people is that they should wait.

          The profile said they are in Sydney, so clearly a hotspot area…. They can get AZ if they really want a vaccine now. Pretty much anyone in VIC/NSW (and QLD to a point) over 18 can get AZ if they ask for it.

          With supply increasing of Pfizer and Moderna, it's possible that those young people will be fully vaccinated quicker than if they get the AZ vaccine now too.

          Honestly hard to say, you are gambling by waiting a month to see if you can get a mRNA vaccine spot. Every state wants mRNA vaccines for its people, so it is a question of do you take the one you can get now vs waiting.

    • this is us on 10/08/2021 - 13:07

      Maybe you can't yet, but many can but decided to wait for Pfizer, Moderna, or for the cohort study to be released in 2027.

      Consider this as the Uber Eats vouchers, or any other deals that are not available for everyone. I get very frustrated every time I am not eligible for the discounts, but that's life. It's not like you can't live without the Sizzle subscription.

    • blurn on 10/08/2021 - 15:49
      +2

      wow same comment as dannyc33 yet it's got positive votes. ozbargainers are a complicated bunch

    • Jessie Ryder on 10/08/2021 - 16:39
      +1

      Go get the AZ, it's open to anyone via your GP.

    • diddy50 on 10/08/2021 - 18:36
      +1

      https://www.hotdoc.com.au/

      Anyone can get a vaccine.
      No excuse to say it's not available

      • ets27 on 10/08/2021 - 18:57
        -2

        another arrogant. I never said it is not available. I said I cannot have it.

        • diddy50 on 10/08/2021 - 21:29
          +1

          Nah mate, you said you can't get it yet.

          So don't talk in riddles.

          If you want it, you can get it;
          if you don't want it, that's fine go for your life and miss out.

  • sugarfree on 10/08/2021 - 12:03
    +5

    What if we are ineligible at the moment or have very long wait times to book in? Bit unfair

    • Store Repdecryption @ The Sizzle on 10/08/2021 - 12:03
      +61

      The offer isn't expiring any time soon. It's long running until 80% of Australians are vaccinated.

      • sugarfree on 10/08/2021 - 12:04
        +7

        Awesome, appreciate the reply

      • [Deactivated] on 10/08/2021 - 13:00
        +7

        LOL. So it will never end then.

        • this is us on 10/08/2021 - 13:13
          +9

          If you are right, and I hope you are not, we might have to wait until the unvaccinated die so the proportion of vaccinated reaches 80%. That might take longer but is probably the natural course of the pandemic.

          To everyone who doesn't like what I just said, get vaccinated and prove me wrong after you neg me.

            • the-fuzz on 10/08/2021 - 13:41
              +27

              @[Deactivated]: What you failed to say was, yes vaccinated are still spreading the virus, however it is only the unvaccinated people who are dying from it. The COVID vaccination doesn't stop from getting it, it helps to prevent you ending up in ICU……

              • joshka on 10/08/2021 - 14:32
                +7

                @the-fuzz: I agree. It also helps the Hospitals from becoming overloaded, there are only so many beds/workers available. If my elderly Father had a heart attack I would want a bed for him to be available rather than it be given to a selfish anti vaxxer who now has COVID-19 and is in ICU!!

                  • joshka on 10/08/2021 - 16:56
                    +10

                    @[Deactivated]: WOW!! Where do you get your information. I'm really finding this hard to reply to because of the ignorance of your post. I work in an ED at a major Hospital and have done so on and off for for the last 35 years!! I also have constant contact with smaller hosptials, Medical Directors etc. No disrespect intended but I think I would be more educated on the staffing levels at Hospitals that you. We have had Hospitals on Code Black numerous times. Dr's and Nurses have been doing double shifts for months/years and are so tired. Have you heard of Ambulance ramping? My goodness, I really do feel sorry for you and the rabbit hole you have fallen into. Go into an ED, the wating times are horrendous alot of the time due to being overloaded.

                • lunartemis on 11/08/2021 - 06:08

                  @[Deactivated]: If you die from covid because you refuse to get the vaccine, it will be best for the rest of us

              • basilv on 12/08/2021 - 14:49
                +1

                @the-fuzz: This is just false. Double-shot vaccinated people have died from COVID-19.

            • buthidae on 10/08/2021 - 13:41
              +19

              @[Deactivated]:

              The vaccines are providing no discernible reduction in symptom severity or deaths

              Patently false. Most hospitalisations and deaths are among the unvaccinated.

              • [Deactivated] on 10/08/2021 - 15:52
                -5

                @buthidae: This is just an outright lie. I don't watch TV. Is that the bullshit they're spreading?

                • boostpak on 12/08/2021 - 08:44

                  @[Deactivated]: you need to wake up buddy. seriously

                  • SBOB on 12/08/2021 - 09:19
                    +1

                    @boostpak:

                    you need to wake up buddy. seriously

                    they get all their news from telegram groups. Clearly more rigorously fact checked than our brainwashing mainstream media alternatives.

                    • [Deactivated] on 16/08/2021 - 09:24

                      @SBOB: Is telegram an internet euphemism for the lowest part of the alimentary canal or just another cesspit where conspiracy theorists like to hang out? There are plenty of reputable sources of information on covid-19 outside the mainstream media. Faulty P has been alerted to them many times but doesn't like the fact that they challenge his fake reality - like millions of Trump supporters did and still do, for reasons best known to themselves. That said you have to be particularly unreceptive to reality not to have witnessed the carnage in Europe and the UK for example.

              • hoxygt on 11/08/2021 - 18:42

                @buthidae: This is the best falsehood I've seen yet.

                Faulty to be a good 'alternative thinker' it pays to pick the evidence which is harder or takes more digging to disprove. Ideally it should align to a partial truth which makes it tougher for lay-persons to detangle from the bs.

                Let me know if you'd like some mistruths to get you started.

            • MasterScythe on 10/08/2021 - 13:41
              +7

              @[Deactivated]: Your data on spreading is correct, your data on severity of symptoms is not.

              Double check the UK papers you're researching are peer-reviewed.

              There is a significantly larger separation between hospitalised cases, and infected cases among the vaccinated.

              If anything, covid has given us nerds an amazing new lot of data to sift through each night.

              • [Deactivated] on 10/08/2021 - 15:55
                -6

                @MasterScythe:

                There is a significantly larger separation between hospitalised cases, and infected cases among the vaccinated.

                This statement is 100% false too. If you don't know why, you've done less than 2% of the research you need to. And again, no, I'm not going back through months of information to find it for you only to have you then bring up another, and another, and another.

                • [Deactivated] on 16/08/2021 - 09:35
                  +1

                  @[Deactivated]: The data all says you're either mistaken or so bound up by your conpiracy theory illness that you can't face basic facts. Feel free to produce reputable data showing that any of the current vaccines aren't significantly reducing hospitalisations and mortality rates. Should take you half an hour at most. While you're there see if you can find that elusive Fauci reference to masks and the Spanish Flu. Pigs will have pilot licences before either of those occur.

            • Adz12 on 10/08/2021 - 13:44
              +5

              @[Deactivated]: Faulty P xel, this must be fake news then?
              https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/1017012853/97-of-people-enter…

                • Adz12 on 10/08/2021 - 13:51
                  +8

                  @[Deactivated]: so provide a link from a trusted news source?

                  • tdth99 on 10/08/2021 - 13:56
                    +21

                    @Adz12: Hehe you've clearly not seen the MO of the crazy anti-vax nuts?
                    Any evidence you provide is fake, and they prefer to provide none at all.

                    It's such a shame our taxes are going to have to fund their healthcare.

                    • BrownBargain on 10/08/2021 - 15:01
                      +1

                      @tdth99: lmao the irony

                    • lunartemis on 11/08/2021 - 06:13
                      +2

                      @tdth99: The irony is there are now anti-vaxxers dying from covid because they refused to get vaccinated and their family members pleading others to get vaccinated, which is sad that it had to take one of their loved ones to die in order to be correctly informed

                    • DogGunn on 10/08/2021 - 15:33
                      +18

                      @[Deactivated]: omg. long winded post for something completely unsourced

                      • [Deactivated] on 10/08/2021 - 15:38
                        -3

                        @DogGunn: So I was right then. You're not sincere and wouldn't have budged one bit. Btw I type 70wpm so I actually saved my time by typing rather than sifting through a week of Telegram medico posts to find info for you, which you only would have ignored anyway.

                        • DogGunn on 10/08/2021 - 15:58
                          +3

                          @[Deactivated]: I actually can't tell if you're trolling or not. This is pretty good. Well done.

                        • Jojo-Ma on 11/08/2021 - 03:59
                          +3

                          @[Deactivated]: You sound like you're advocating for Telegram, instead of leading people to read peer-reviewed journal articles written by people in a very specific/niche field.

                          If anything, one could easily find telegram users that blindly shout out "moon" without knowing much about crypto FA & TA. Do we actually expect telegram be filled with genuine docs and nurses?

                          • hoxygt on 11/08/2021 - 18:45

                            @Jojo-Ma: Funny how I haven't come across a real doc (or nurse) in person who speaks this dribble?

                      • Duff5000 on 11/08/2021 - 14:15

                        @DogGunn: Have they posted a single bit of evidence?

                        A run out of downvotes several comments back unfortunately. Mods really should be banning this sort of BS.

                        • DogGunn on 11/08/2021 - 14:18
                          +1

                          @Duff5000: They're currently banned (not sure if temporary or not). I assume they would be otherwise posting plenty of nonsense without a single source.

                    • Adz12 on 10/08/2021 - 16:07
                      +9

                      @[Deactivated]: sorry mate i don't take my health advise from keyboard warriors, if I or anyone I know get sick, I will rely on health professionals, the same ones that are telling us vaccines are safe

                  • ozb88 on 10/08/2021 - 15:21
                    +11

                    @Adz12: Source: Dude, trust me bro

                    • Davelovesdealz on 10/08/2021 - 15:45
                      +2

                      @ozb88: It would be hilarious if it wasn't impacting peoples lives so hard. Fortress Australia has made many fools think they are smarter than they are. Wait till this numptys gran/mum dies of covid then see how smart he is…..

              • diddy50 on 10/08/2021 - 18:39
                +2

                @Adz12: He's clearly an anti vaxxer. Don't give the fool your time.

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