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$20 Discount to QF/JQ Flights or 1000 Qantas Points or 15 Status Credits for Fully Vaccinated FF Members @ QANTAS

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From tomorrow, fully vaccinated Australian-based Frequent Flyers who are 18 and over will be able to claim their reward through the Qantas App by choosing one of three options:

  • 1000 Qantas points
  • 15 status credits (which help Frequent Flyers move up between Silver, Gold and Platinum tiers)
  • $20 flight discount for Qantas or Jetstar

Australians can claim their points, status credits or flight discounts and be automatically entered in the mega prize draw by downloading the Qantas App (via the App Store or through Google Play), using their Medicare app to access and upload their COVID-19 digital vaccination certificate and selecting their reward choice. Vaccination certificate information will be deleted upon verification

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            • @eug: It's worthwhile combating a request with evidence though

            • +7

              @alan13: Don't bother linking anything to them. Their mind is completely closed off to any information that doesn't support their view.

              If you present an article they don't agree with, they'll just say its fake news.

              They're stuck in an echo chamber and choose to surround themselves with misinformation. I heard from an ex-antivaxxer that the groups are almost cult-like.

      • right you are ken. great comment and it sucks it will be downvoted and probably removed.

      • +8

        @Maledetto999 - The vaccines don't offer immunity. But they are effective. Here's another article for you to read:
        https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/why-are-fully-vacc...

        He describes the vaccines’ impact on symptomatic infection as ‘substantial but not high level’.

        ‘The immune response to vaccines is strong, but the vaccines are not sterilising, they don’t completely prevent infection,’ he told newsGP.

        ‘[Being fully vaccinated] gives you moderate protection against infections that are milder like a cold and against transmission to another person.

        ‘But it gives you very strong protection against hospitalisation and death.’

        • +9

          It's literally in the link he posted that the vaccine will reduce severe illness but there's no convincing some people. Especially laughable that he signs off with "ignorance is bliss".

      • +5

        If you are ever presented to hospital due to the effects of catching covid, will you be just as picky on the other medication and procedures (such as intubation) to keep you alive? Will you find some website which claims some harm can come from those medications/procedures and refuse them as well?

      • +1

        You are entitled to your opinion. If you really feel that the vaccines are an experiment then get a vaccine like Sinovac or Astrozeneca that uses an inactivated virus. This technique has been used for decades.

        The latest from NSW Health.

        "Until 8pm last night, 818 locally acquired cases of Covid-19, and no overseas cases reported. The New South Wales population came out in record numbers to be tested

        There are currently 586 Covid cases admitted to hospital. There are 100 people currently in intensive care, of whom 32 required ventilation. Of the 100 cases in ICU, 87 of those people are not vaccinated, and the remainder have had their first dose of vaccine."

        The key takeaway here is that of all the people in intensive care there is noone who has been fully vaccinated. So get vaccinated.

      • +8

        Do you think there won't be a system in place for people who genuinely can't be vaccinated because of medical reasons? There's a difference between genuinely being unable to do something vs "I don't want to because it's my choice".

        • -1

          What's the difference between not vaccinated for medical reasons and just not vaccinated, in terms of danger they pose to vaccinated?

          You forgot address question about children, just a humble reminder.

          • +4

            @DainB: The "choice" to remain unvaccinated will increase the burden on the health system as an unvaccinated person is more likely to end up in hospital.

            In terms of the risk to others, please see: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-br...

            A growing body of evidence indicates that people fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna) are less likely than unvaccinated persons to acquire SARS-CoV-2 or to transmit it to others. However, the risk for SARS-CoV-2 breakthrough infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus.

            So being unvaccinated increases the risk to others (including those who genuinely can't be vaccinated).

            In terms of children, here is some more information: https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-...

            There are trials underway for children to help ensure the vaccine is safe for other ages as well, which is especially important considering children seem to be much more susceptible to the delta variant.

            • -3

              @TailsK: Oh, so it works, cool, good for you. So why you vaxxers are so afraid of unvaccinated then?

              • +3

                @DainB: I didn't say I'm afraid. You asked a question, so I answered. The simple message is, everyone being vaccinated reduces the risk to everyone.

                The thing the unvaccinated people seem to be ignoring (especially with the delta variant) is that it is still transmissible. This means the "herd immunity" that people may have been hoping for won't protect the unvaccinated. This is literally the problem the US is facing right now and why there are so many unvaccinated people being hospitalised and dying.

                • +1

                  @TailsK: Today, some of those data were published in CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), demonstrating that Delta infection resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people. High viral loads suggest an increased risk of transmission and raised concern that, unlike with other variants, vaccinated people infected with Delta can transmit the virus. This finding is concerning and was a pivotal discovery leading to CDC’s updated mask recommendation. The masking recommendation was updated to ensure the vaccinated public would not unknowingly transmit virus to others, including their unvaccinated or immunocompromised loved ones.

                  So reduces risk of what? Getting the virus? Read above. Spreading the virus? Read above. And I'm not sure how your personal risk of hospitalisation affects anyone else on this planet.

                  • +16

                    @DainB: @DainB: "I'm not sure how your personal risk of hospitalisation affects anyone else on this planet."

                    Hospitals dont have infinite resourcs. If they are flooded with COVID patients that have refused to take a vaccine, then it reduces the levels of care for everyone else.

                    I can't believe we are 18 months into this pandemic and this still has to be explained to anti-vaxxer morons.

                  • +4

                    @DainB: I've answered this above already. Have a look at my reply to Maledetto999.

                    Also, I said unvaccinated peoples' risk of hospitalisation goes up, not unvaccinated. And actually, people ending up in hospital because they make a "choice" not to be vaccinated does affect others. It takes away hospital beds (including ICU) from other people who may need them. There are also the cost implications to the taxpayer. These are just a few things. Don't pretend that someone's "choice" to not get vaccinated isn't a selfish one that only affects the individual, because it isn't.

                    • +2

                      @TailsK: Oh lovely. What do you propose we do to obese people then? They are the biggest burden on health systems. Incidentally they're also the largest group at risk to die from or with Covid. There's no vaccine for obesity as far as I know, so should we preemptively euthanize them so they do not take hospital beds from those who need them?

                  • +4

                    @DainB:

                    And I'm not sure how your personal risk of hospitalisation affects anyone else on this planet

                    You're really not sure how taking up one of the very small number of ICU beds in Australia affects others?

                    • +1

                      @dazweeja: Everyone has equal access to health systems in Australia.

                      • +3

                        @DainB:

                        Everyone has equal access to health systems in Australia.

                        That's true but irrelevant to the specific point you were making. Your personal risk of hospitalisation does impact other people because the resources of our health system, in particular ICU beds, are finite. You might take up an ICU bed for an illness that was easily preventable and someone with a serious health issue that was not preventable may die because of it.

                        • @dazweeja: 60% of hospitalisations in Israel in August are vaccinated people, proof - https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/nearly-6....

                          By your logic vaccinated cause much more serious impact on precious resources, so what do you propose to do with them?

                          • +6

                            @DainB: You're cherry-picking information to suit your narrative. Even what you have linked says:

                            Given the large number of fully vaccinated Israelis, some breakthrough cases were expected, health officials say, and a growing body of research has shown those who are unvaccinated face far higher risks of severe illness or death from a COVID-19 infection.

                            Here's another article talking about the vaccines in Israel (try reading the whole thing): https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628...

                            If you get infected, being vaccinated helps.
                            The good news is that among Israel's serious infections on Thursday of this week, according to Health Ministry data, the rate of serious cases among unvaccinated people over age 60 (178.7 per 100,000) was nine times more than the rate among fully vaccinated people of the same age category, and the rate of serious cases among unvaccinated people in the under-60 crowd (3.2 per 100,000) was a little more than double the rate among vaccinated people in that age bracket.

                            You're going off on tangents (like obesity) because you can't actually justify your selfish position. You said there's no vaccine for obesity. You're right, there isn't. But there is one (in fact many) for covid.

                            • @TailsK: How many unvaccinated get sick is irrelevant, you are worrying about hospital beds, don't you?

                              Well, here you go - 60% of hospital beds are occupied by vaccinated.

                              • +4

                                @DainB: No where did I say hospital beds are the only reason to get vaccinated. It's one of many.

                                You're ignoring the bigger picture. Even if that is the case, the second article I linked (again on the same topic) talks to the seriousness of hospitalisation. You're also ignoring the time of vaccination and that they're using booster shots to address the issue. You're also ignoring how much worse it could be if they weren't vaccinated at all. It's not as black and white as you're trying to make it out to be.

                          • +1

                            @DainB: The majority of the population is vaccinated, with the most vulnerable cohorts the most heavily vaccinated, so no shit.

                            The number of cases is back to the highest levels Israel have seen, but the actual volume of hospitalisations is vastly reduced compared to what was seen the last time the levels of spread was that high.

                  • +1

                    @DainB: Because it puts a strain on the medical system when they could be focussing their resources on treating other patients?? Can we not be so arrogant and selfish and look past how it affects us individually, but rather society as a whole?

                    • @alan13: There were 24K cardio-vascular related deaths in Australia last year and about 900 Covid related. I'm not sure what you're proposing here.

                      An yes, I do care about your health exactly as much as you care about mine. Do I need specify how much is that?

                      • +1

                        @DainB: HOSPITALISATIONS

                        How many times must we talk about this??

                        • +1

                          @alan13: Yes, so what do we do to fatties who occupy precious hospital beds. When replying please consider that their conditions are 99% self-inflicted.

                          You still don't understand where this all heading to, do you?

                          • +1

                            @DainB: lol.. this is brilliant. Please. Enlighten me.

                            • -1

                              @alan13: Ask your herd for advice.

                              • @DainB: lol yeah ok m8

                                Don't even know how obesity gets brought into a discussion about covid but ok.

                                99% self inflicted? Where's your source for this?

                                • @alan13: In the fridge.

                                • +1

                                  @alan13: You're wasting your time, DainB is just trolling

                                • +1

                                  @alan13: Data shows obesity as a large contributor to serious health outcomes in COVID19. Also a high risk of death in people who have insufficient Vitamin D levels. There are simple things that can be done which the government does not tell us. Instead my doctor said if you're tested positive to just go home & wait till you need to be hospitalised. Anything else he prescribes that is not a vaccine could lose him his licence. If you think that's acceptable, then I guess you'll believe anything you're told eh?

                                  • @skeptik: I'll believe what science and medicine tells me. Most definitely not what you're telling me =)

                  • +1

                    @DainB: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.20.21262158v...

                    Despite similar Ct-values, we demonstrate lower probability of infectious virus detection in respiratory samples of vaccinated HCWs with breakthrough infections compared to unvaccinated HCWs with primary SARS-CoV-2 infections. Nevertheless, infectious virus was found in 68.6% of breakthrough infections and Ct-values decreased throughout the first 3 days of illness. We conclude that rare vaccine breakthrough infections occur, but infectious virus shedding is reduced in these cases.

                    Research is suggesting that even if a vaccinated person gets infected, that they are less likely to spread, or reproduce the virus as long as an unvaccinated person.

      • +4

        @DainB - I have yet to meet a single person who is genuinely unable to use any of the vaccinates due to medical reasons.

        The US is vaccinating left right and centre, yet over here there’s hesitation. Even from doctors.

        I’ve heard of people undergoing Chemo even having the vaccine and being fine. I’ve first hand seen numerous immunocompromised disable people get vaccinated and be okay.

        We all need to look out for each other. Don’t add more stress to our already stressed hospital system. Leave it for people with genuine medical conditions, instead of your lack of education on a topic.

        I am glad I’m able to reduce my risk to my friends, family and coworkers. Those who’ve vaccinated have helped keep our hospital system free for those who genuinely need it.

        • That's good that you never met them. I never met you too but it does not mean you don't exist.

          Oh, and yes, look after another. There were 7 deaths in Australia that are direct consequence of vaccination. How do you look after families of those people? Oh, you don't. In fact, you probably don't even care if someone you encourage to get vaccinated dies.

          • +2

            @DainB: 7 deaths in vaccination vs over 900 Covid deaths in unvaccinated people. I'm one of the educated ones so I can identify which is considered a greater risk.

            If 7 deaths means vaccinated people don't care about others, then 900 deaths means unvaccinated people are selfish idiots.

    • +2

      Thing is, with delta variant a significant number of vaccinated people still get sick and still pass on the virus. So delta breaks the hope for herd immunity and you need to be way up in the 90s to protect those for whom the vaccine wont work. For all this to work we need a boosted for delta AND to vaccinate the rest of the world too or we are stuck in this rut. We’ve been vaccinated for months and by the time we open up our immunity will be waning so we’ve been penalised for going early.

    • -1

      but other people (the majority) have a right to not be exposed to these higher-risk individuals.

      This seems to be common opinion but it doesn't hold up to the slightest scrutiny.
      eg
      If the vaccination protects you, why do you care what other people do?
      And it appears that the vaccination doesn't prevent infection, it only reduces effects, so again why do you care since you will still most likely get infected regardless?
      And since some expert opinion is that an under-cooked vaccine could create an environment for the virus to mutant to a more potent version, thus creating more damage, this creates a situation where the vaccinated are creating a higher risk. How does this affect the rights of people "not to be exposed to higher risks".

      But sure, don't think, just do what you are told…

  • +6

    Great move, wish more companies would push for vaccination. I just need to wait 6 weeks for my second AZ shot..

    • So it's the same as Sizzle the other day. But with less downvotes. :)

      • this is cash though :)

  • +3

    Too bad the other thread got closed. These posts bring the true (profanity) of OzB.

    • +2

      That other post had me yelling at my screen. This one is much more soothing.

      • I take it back. It seems this deal has me yelling at my screen again. Why oh why did I come back here to read people’s opinions on vaccination?

    • +9

      Can't believe I used my 5 neg votes so quickly.

  • +13

    Do they seriously think that those who are opposed to getting vaccinated will suddenly change their mind if the can get a $20 discount? Serious question

    • +6

      Probably not. But it might encourage those that are still uncertain, those that are procrastinating, etc to pull the trigger.

    • +6

      No they won't. This is corporate virtue signalling, of which Qantas are experts at.

    • +5

      I have done more for less! Haha

    • +2

      I doubt it will change the mind of the opposed but it may inventivise some of those with no strong views either way. If a lot of companies do the same, the incentive increases.

    • +7

      most won't, but a few that just could not be bothered might pull their finger out, every one counts. Yes some of the true conspiracy nutcases and anti vaxxers (which we have a few of on OzB) the only way to change their mind is for them to be in a hospital bed dieing with it or having someone they love dieing with it for them to rethink.

      • uses word dieing, twice, while calling others nutcases. right.

        • nice Ad hominem anti vaxxer!

          • @gromit: ad hominem does not have capital A in it either, vaxxer

            • +5

              @DainB: But being at the start of a sentence yours should.

      • +1

        Hmmm you might have underestimated the true power of anti vaxers. They will rather die, get their loved ones and innocent bystanders killed for conspiracy. They will one day make a medal to honour their deaths.

    • +9

      There are likely some Sky News viewers who will get vaccinated when they have to choose between listening to Andrew Bolt or going on a holiday.

      But most anti-vaxxers wont change their irrational positions because, by their very nature the positions aren't rational.

      I'm hoping my MIL (who is an anti-vaxxer) is in the former group. That the allure of visiting her family in Singapore is stronger than the lies spewed by her pastor.

    • In isolation no. But other companies and venues may follow and then either the incentives, or the risk of not being able to access certain services, may serve as a tipping point.

    • +2

      Maybe not this deal alone, but as vaccinated people receive even more privileges and incentives over the unvaccinated ones, these uneducated sheep might be smart enough to realise they can either keep up or get left behind.

  • That’s great, I am fully vaccinated, can I travel now without the need for hotel quarantine if I get tested on destination?

    • +8

      Sorry, you must have confused vaccinations and elections. So answer is no, you can't.

      • -1

        Not at the moment…
        In the future? Maybe …

  • +1

    nice one Qantas, showing some support for the taxpayers that kept you afloat. Will claim mine status credits end of Sept for new status year. thanks.

  • +17

    The amount of folks up Qantas rear is sickening. They have had their mitts in the job keeper pot since Feb 2020 and will screw you silly with price gouging the first minute they can. Australian my arse.

    • +12

      Yep, we read the comment the first time.

      In Qantas' defence though they're an industry that absolutely needed government support to avoid laying off a large workforce totally.

      Unlike people like Gerry and Solomon Lew who just profited

      • +1

        darn it, I used one of my precious neg's the first time they posted that rubbish and have none left to do it again. The airline industry was one of the most in need of jobkeeper. It's not as if they are rolling in profits when the times are good……

    • +12

      What's wrong with them claiming JobKeeper? Hard to imagine too many businesses that have been more heavily impacted by the pandemic than an airline? I've sure as hell been flying a lot less. It's not like Harvey Norman who was claiming it despite profits going through the roof due to the pandemic keeping people at home.

    • Please post your entry criteria for being eligible for jobkeeper

  • +21

    Lmao at all these anti vaxxers, smfh

  • +5

    $20 Discount to QF/JQ Flights or 1000 Qantas Points or 15 Status Credits
    which one would most OZB folks choose?

    • +15

      I''d take the $20 discount.

      The 1000 points is worth $10 at best. The 15 status credit is only useful if you're currently flying enough where you might go up in status. Otherwise, a single flight will keep it for you anyhow.

      So $20 discount is the best value.

      • +3

        Thank you - very clear explanation.

      • for me with new status year ahead I will take the status credits, combined with what rolls over from last status year this will help me retain gold with minimal flying. Interestingly 1000 points should be said to be worth at least $10 as it really depends how you utilise your points. My last trip gave me a 7c per point conversion.

      • Put those 1000 points towards business class international travel and they could be worth 35-40 dollars.

        …When we can actually travel internationally that is.

    • +1

      I agree. Came for this question.

    • +2

      I’m taking the 1000 points as they don’t expire. The status points expire after a year and I won’t do enough travel to benefit from them. I assume the $20 has some sort of claim period which given I have no travel plans, I likely won’t meet.

      If it’s perpetual then maybe I’ll take the $20.

      • That's my main question, whats the expiry date (if any) of the $20 voucher…

        • +5

          1 year expiry

          Qantas Promo Code: The Qantas flight discount is for the value of A$20 and will be provided as a promo code. The promo code will be sent to the email provided in your application within three days of your completed application and will be valid for 12 months from the date of issue. The flight promo code is valid for single use, new bookings which include at least one Qantas operated and marketed flight. Bookings must be made via qantas.com or over the phone through your local Qantas office. Promo code cannot be used on rebookings, Classic Flight Rewards or bookings which include the use of a flight credit or Qantas Points. The promo code is non-transferable. See full promo code terms and conditions.

          Jetstar Flight Voucher: The Jetstar flight voucher is for the value of A$20 and will be provided as a Jetstar voucher. The voucher will be sent to the email provided in your application within seven days of your completed application and is valid for 12 months from the date of issue. The voucher is single use and can be redeemed towards the payment for one Jetstar booking (redeemable on Fares and bundle options, taxes or towards payment of Jetstar Holiday products (such as accommodation, flight and hotels packages, activities, transfers, parking or insurance) that are booked in connection with a Jetstar flight in the same itinerary). Bookings must be made via https://www.jetstar.comOpens external site. The voucher is non-transferable and the person listed on the voucher must be a passenger in the booking. The Jetstar voucher can only be redeemed if the first and surname on the voucher matches the booking traveller's Qantas Frequent Flyer account details. If there is a name mismatch the member may select an alternate reward via the Qantas contact centre. See full voucher terms and conditionsOpens external site.

          • @iceshadow: Hmm, a year isn't very long. I'd love to get on a holiday next year but I guess that depends on state borders…

          • @iceshadow:

            Promo code cannot be used on rebookings, Classic Flight Rewards or bookings which include the use of a flight credit or Qantas Points

            That final point kills it for me. Rather throw 1,000 points into the points pool I have. $20 might be worth more than 1000 points, but I have a stack of points to use once I do travel.

      • Don't vouchers have to have 3years or more validity in Aus?

  • is this a once off reward? or is it ongoing every time you fly?

    from what i saw (although its not clear), its a once off reward?

    And if you take the $20 credit; does it get applied to your current flight? or is it for use a on a future flight?

    This information would determine the value of this 'deal'.

    • +2

      Yes, it needs be per vaccination. Imagine how many OzBargainers will be vaccinated 2000 times each if they did that.

      • With boosters happening every 6 months this is a very real possibility

  • Qantas should be offering some Qantas plane Lego with this to seal the deal.

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