Back in stock!
NVR + 4 D820A cameras for $544 delivered.
I think this might be a price error, NVR + 4 D820A cameras is cheaper ($544) NVR + 3 D820A cameras ($568).
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/393556995833?var=662332782510
Had mine delivered today, so it works.
The supplied ethernet cables are garbage
What’s wrong with them? Not in wall rated?
They are CCA
@jv: Would also like to know this..
I purchased a 4 camera set up and have it here to install but if the cables no good I guess the electrician will have something?
Cat 6/7?
@FreshPrinceofKP: cat6 is more than enough (and honestly, in many cases, 5e should be for these as well - cat6 is just a bit more future proof), just get data cabler / electrician to use that when they install (vs running the existing cables).
cat6 is just a bit more future proof
Is it for CCTV?
The difference between 5e and 6 is 100Mbps and 10Gbps
Do you see CCTV cameras needing more than 100Mbps in the future as video codecs continue to improve to reduce bandwidth.
@spaceflight: 5e is 1Gbps vs cat6 at 10Gbps theoretically and it most situations doesn't matter at all. The improvement is in the noise reduction from the tighter twist
@FreshPrinceofKP: A installer with proper registration won't actually use the included cable because it's CCA. For IPC cat5e is plenty. It will be a very very long time to surpass their limits. You'd notice zero difference against cat6 especially at the run lengths used. Even then the install will be with cat6 no one carries cat5e with them anymore, but don't let them try and upsell you from cat6
@DoesntEvenMatter: The cameras are only 100mbit anyway so don't even need cat5e. They peak at something like 8mbit so be a long time before you even hit a 100mbit limit
@DoesntEvenMatter: I just finished installing my 4 cameras - DIY just running them in the roof space. Any danger in not replacing the cables for a few years do you think?
@localhoost: They will be fine. Just keep them out of the elements. Reason they are banned here is if there was any housefire the CCA can potentially catch fire and carry it around the house but them alone being a fire risk is extremely low. At most they could cause artifacts in your stream
I just finished installing my 4 cameras - DIY just running them in the roof space.
Do you permanently installed cable?
Do you have a cables licence?
@spaceflight: I didn’t terminate any of the cables, just plugged them in. The cables aren’t attached to anything so this would be considered temporary, and therefore legal.
@localhoost: That's its still technically illegal the moment its run between walls, eves, subfloor and ceiling/roof and its connected to the telecom network. The only legal way is to have the wires all exposed. The most it can be covered is with carpet, it's grey area between external conduits
I just finished installing my 4 cameras - DIY just running them in the roof space.
Are you licensed?
If not, what you did was illegal.
@jv: My understanding is that if it's plug and play and at your own premises, then you don't need to be a licensed/registered cabler. Different story if you're getting paid to do it or it can connect to a telecommunications network.
My understanding is that if it's plug and play and at your own premises, then you don't need to be a licensed/registered cabler.
Nope.
If it is running through a wall, through the roof or under the house, it is treated as permanent and you need an licensed cabler to do it legally.
Illegal cabling can potentially make you house insurance invalid.
My understanding is that if it's plug and play and at your own premises, then you don't need to be a licensed/registered cabler.
Your understanding is wrong.
Do you know the requirements to seperate from electrical cabling?
Do you know what AS/CA S008 and AS/CA S009 require?
You probably don't, and it's reasons like that why you need to be licensed to install cable
A registered cabler must perform telecommunications, fire, security and data industries cabling.
https://www.acma.gov.au/cabling-provider-rules
@jv: Thanks for your concern. I didn’t terminate any of the cables, just plugged them in. The cables aren’t attached to anything so this would be considered temporary, and therefore legal.
I didn’t terminate any of the cables, just plugged them in.
Irrelevant. Still illegal if they are in the roof or under the house on between walls…
I didn’t terminate any of the cables, just plugged them in.
Why does that matter?
The cables aren’t attached to anything
What about your camera and switch/router?
The cables aren’t attached to anything so this would be considered temporary, and therefore legal.
In your own words [citation needed]
They are installed in your roof, that's a permanent installation.
[citation needed]
Ah the "I'm to lazy to do my own research" approach.
So you have no idea what rules, regulations and requirements apply to the cables you have illegally installed.
Not only have you illegally installed cable you have installed cable that does not meet AS/CAS008 and is also illegal.
@spaceflight: Dude/dudette are you ok? It seems like you’re up for an argument - I’m pretty over lockdown, so am definitely not.
I’ll get someone in to check it out, but only based on Dezeption’s advice. If you want to know why, let me know.
Dude/dudette are you ok?
I am. Thanks for asking
It seems like you’re up for an argument -
You are the one arguing with people who are telling you what you have done is illegal or making stupid comments like "[citation needed]"
I’ll get someone in to check it out, but only based on Dezeption’s advice. If you want to know why, let me know.
I don't care why you will only do it based on Dezeption’s advice (at least you listened to someone). You should so it because what you have done is illegal which is what Dezeption and jv and me have said.
We all gave you the same information.
I also included a link to the ACMA in case you want to read it.
@spaceflight: FYI Just spoke with an ACMA registered cabler, and he said it wasn’t a problem that I installed it myself, and that the type of cables being used is fine. Happy to get a second opinion if you want to recommend anyone in Melbourne.
@localhoost: Jv and space are right but eveyone does it lol then they wonder why their nbn isnt working and a tech needs to go out and cut off the old copper line because someone has introduced noise and a electrical charge
@DoesntEvenMatter: Cool thanks! I’ll get someone in to check it out and potentially replace the cabling with something better.
@DoesntEvenMatter: FYI Just spoke with an ACMA registered cabler, and he said it wasn’t a problem that I installed it myself, and that the type of cables being used is fine. Happy to get a second opinion if you want to recommend anyone in Melbourne.
@localhoost: If you take a look at the acma website it will state that you can't self install. But honestly don't worry about it more than half of the installations are either self install or people without the actual endorsement. See it on new builds all the time when they as the sparky to do it for them
A installer with proper registration won't actually use the included cable because it's CCA
There is nothing wrong with CCA if it is never connected to a telecommunications network.
AS/CA S008 and AS/CA S009 only cover telco cable.
@DoesntEvenMatter: haha was looking for this comment, this guy is correct most tradies wont carry 5e anymore.
How does one know if the cable is CCA or not?
you can look at the wires or do a flame test.
I thought the 4x 4k cameras and nvr often got to sub $600.
This is the ai detection ones but yeah it seems like a fair price. The non ai equivalent ones usually is like $400 on sale so this seems legit.
I paid $716 not long ago, so great deal if not an error.
@boretentsu: Actually it was $652 according to my bank statement - ebay must list the price before discount. This was the deal I think: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/644110
@localhoost: I meant, I paid the equivalent price for the non 4k version (couldn't wait for a deal unfortunately)
Good price for the 4k with Person/Vehicle Detection. Previous best I found was a little over $600 for this configuration.
Best way to get this with 8 cameras? Buy 4 extra or get an 8-pack?
Depends on the cameras you want - the 8 pack supports more cameras overall, and comes with a 3TB hdd built in.
Overall, I got the 4 camera, since I wanted to use different cameras with it to get to 8 (we use their E1 series internally for some stuff)
Nice find OP. Seems to be about $50-$60 cheaper than I've previously found.
Bought for our new build.
There is also an Afterpay discount.
Is the NVR and specifically the App ( viewing footage on phone ) easy enough to setup up.
I've given up on an older Chinese grey import Hikvision setup.
Very! you'll need a screen (they include a mouse) to perform initial setup, but generally was quite straightforward when I purchased on recently.
App is easy to pair after doing that, you just scan a QR code if I remember correctly.
Whole set up can be done via the app or pc/mac client. Edit replied to the wrong comment
Can't be done through browser. Just to clarify for those interested.
Awesome. Sounds good.
Bugger. Googled too long
It is $368 better buy now bud
That was the price for 1NVR+1IPC
No lie it must have glitched for a couple of mins when they increased the stock
We recently purchased this (from amazon, for a bit more) - and have had a great experience for the price.
We had an electricial run cabling through the house (we were getting cat6 run for computer networking already).
Only things to be aware of:
I like the reolink ecosystem generally, we paired this with a E1 + E1 pro (one to watch an aquarium, one to watch some of our pets) - and have another E1 Pro and a E1 Zoom on the way. The new Duo looks neat, and they have a wide range that just work with the NVR (auto discovery, auto setup etc).
Some odd inconsistencies in configuration between web, NVR w/ screen and app, but nothing too painful.
I think it works on Synology surveillance as well
The kit cameras can be used on the local network without a problem (plug into a separate POE switch if you want to access the RTSP stream), but because they don't come with a UUID to punch through your network they can't be accessed remotely individually. That's why the kit cameras won't work with Google Assistant/Alexa.
Definitely agree with inconsistencies as you have quite a few places to login and sometimes they are diff accounts: NVR, camera, Reolink mobile app, Reolink cloud, Reolink Win10 app
Oh, they can? I hadn't tried directly yet, just going off Reolinks site + https://www.thirtythreeforty.net/posts/2020/05/hacking-reoli… - I thought you couldn't access the ONVIF / RTSP directly on the kit cameras.
Do you happen to know connection details for them? would be keen to try.
Should be along the lines of this post:
https://support.reolink.com/hc/en-us/articles/360007010473-H…
I tried it quite a while ago with VLC, but I don't have the URL I specifically used saved. If you have the cameras plugged into the NVR you won't be able to see the camera on your network as the NVR acts like another router. So you'll have to plug into a separate POE switch.
I think the link you are referring to is for older cams/firmware. Reolink has RTSP available for many (most?) non-battery operated cameras.
@marquise: This is correct. Im using the 820A cam, no dvr (purchased cam separately).
rtsp://USERNAME:PASSWORD@IPADDRESS:554/h264Preview_01_sub
I used the SUB stream to plug into home assistant dashboard as its h264 instead of MAIN which is h265.
I am having issues with the Reolink HACS intergration. Git says they had breaking change, just waiting on fix to get all entities working correctly.
rtsp://USERNAME:PASSWORD@IPADDRESS:554/h264Preview_01_sub
You should change your password now that it's been posted in a forum.
@DoesntEvenMatter: I have, thats how im viewing it on lovelace. Waiting for integration to be fixed as some of the senors (person, vehicle etc) would be handy to trigger automations.
Can you update firmware after you install everything?
As in, you don't need to take the cameras down and plug them into a USB etc or anything silly like that?
Yehp, you just need to do it via the NVR interface (not sure if doable via the web) - but it's all quite easy.
NVR + 4 D820A cameras for $544 delivered.
OOS
Chinese company, again be wary of all imaging being funnelled straight to CCP
Now $368 btw if you would like to get spied on for cheaper
Again $368 is for 1 camera and NVR -_-
I just blocked inbound / outbound traffic to the nvr on my router.
silly question - but doesn't that mean you can't access it remotely? eg via you iPhone app whilst not on the same network
Yep that’s right, doesn’t work outside my own network. Also push notifications don’t work anymore, and I’m assuming updates won’t work either.
I figure once lockdown is over and I can actually travel again, I might re-enable remote access just while I’m away.
PS I’m more worried about a security flaw than the Chinese gov.
@DoesntEvenMatter: That would prevent it talking to other devices on my network, but it’s still remotely accessible which is the part I’m most worried about.
@localhoost: That's exactly what you want tho, to isolate it from everything else and then the VPN to have access to it. Cuts outsiders out of your network
@DoesntEvenMatter: do you need a special kind of router to set that up? I have an Orbi - haven't played around with it much but I assume it would have this functionality
@supitysup: Looks like some of them do - search for orbi + vlan - eg https://kb.netgear.com/000062272/How-do-I-create-configure-a…
I’m more worried about a security flaw than the Chinese gov.
That's exactly how they want you to think…
Are these cameras good to place high on two storey eaves?
2 of mine will be going on 2nd story eaves.
I think someone has installed them on level 30 of a office building so on a second storey should be ok
Oh, this was my first post by the way
Nice first post dude
back in stock?
there was like 3 come back in stock
In, then it of stock.
I decided to buy then tho stock available.
Maybe they're cancelling orders, but then they increase stock allowing another order?
Thanks OP. Got the order to go through as 3 more appeared in stock. Not sure if it will be cancelled though
does each extra camera come with a cable supplied?