Don't know if this can be considered a deal, warranty is dealer backed 7year with kinda meh finance interest rate. Specs are alright. Just posting for awareness. Top spec is around 50k drive away.
Est. delivery: July 2022
Mod: Added driveaway prices from website.
I see a lot of articles quoting this 0-100, nothing about 0-60, which is more relevant for me personally. Has this just not been reviewed/tested yet?
That's 0-100kmh (ie. almost 0-60mph).
Why would anyone record 0-60kmh?
are you living in australia or…?
@xrailgun: Yes…. ?
I have never heard of any company quoting their 0-60 times in kmh…. because that's not exactly fast… at all.
The only numbers you hear about are 0-60 (as in mph) or 0-100kmh (62mph).
@Deviner: so, which one of the below are you?
@xrailgun: I've no idea who or what you're arguing about.
All I said was, no company measures their car's speeds based off of 0-60kmh… because that information isn't particularly useful for most people.
You even said it's "more relevant for me personally".
Your #1 and #3 imply I'm the speeder… no, I just don't care how fast a car can get to 60kmh as I don't find that useful information.
Also, not sure what #2 is about - I don't know any highways that are 60kmh.
Anyways, good luck in your quest to get 0-60kmh speeds recognised.
Dude think about it for sec
my Chinese phone goes 0-100kmh to a brick wall in 0.05 seconds
Not really replying to you personally, but I just find it interesting that everyone is a drag racing enthusiast nowadays haha.
Back in the day most common people’s drag cars were big heavy sedan V8s with lotsa torque that struggled with corners because they weighed a whopping 1700kgs, which was heavy relatively at the time. Nowadays electric cars are basically the same equivalent deal minus the noise but heavy 2000kg sedans that are quick in a straight line, especially off the line. They’re marketed more like sports cars but really they’re drag cars.
People who previously had no interest in drag cars or drag racing now are. That’s some impressive marketing imo.
But also I never personally see EV cars gunning it on the road, and where I live has some of the highest numbers of EVs in the country. So I wonder if it’s more something that people like the idea of and draws them to buy the cars but then they don’t really have an interest in it really
This is very poorly priced in my view and certainly not a bargain. A back of the envelope calc comparing the 60kWh version to a Tesla Model 3 in your state should illustrate the same. In WA it’s like a ~$13k difference but the Tesla is a far superior vehicle and you’d make that back in the form of less depreciation as Tesla’s have historically had very good resale. Not to mention you’d benefit from faster charging and access to the supercharger network. They really missed the mark with this after all the hype.
that's a SUV. the likely 30-35k compact would be the same class as model 3. comparable for this would be model Y which would be at least 90k when it gets here though
This SUV is significantly smaller in length and width than the Model 3 and smaller in all dimensions than the Model Y:
BYD/Tesla M3/Tesla MY
Length: 4455/4694/4751mm
Width: 1875/1933/1921mm
Height: 1615/1433/1624mm
any idea about luggage space? I'd buy the M3 in a heart beat if not for concern about possible needing baby gear and prams etc down the track
@May4th: Yes, I have a M3 LR and my wife has a 2021 RAV4 hybrid (and a baby to put in it!) so I can give you a pretty good idea.
Long story short, I wouldn't recommend it for a young family, the luggage space and rear seat is much less practical for fitting a baby seat, pram and assorted baby paraphernalia than our RAV4.
Better to wait for the Model Y or failing that, the RAV4 hybrid is a good compromise in the interim.
The M3 is an awesome daily driver for my long commute though, which is what I bought it for.
@Dogsrule: thanks. model Y would be nice but bit outside of budget. RAV4 hybrid was high up on our list but with covid their prices have gone up significantly too
Tesla bought BMWs' M3 badge on ebay and started using it?
Not a deal. Frankly the opposite
Agreed it's the price we swear to never pay to cripple the devil this originates from. Never a deal!
Good lord the brainwashing is strong.
Hope it will do a good job on bringing Tasla price down….
Not likely, as the price stands right now the Model RWD is better value for money as it is.
no wonder I saw a pile of cars with BYD logo on their side cruising on M1 Sydney near Zetland at midday Friday.
BYD e6 in White right?
got 3 in my family.
This is a lost opportunity. They’re clearly gauging people who are early adopters. I’m sure they’ll bring a better equiped model in 12 months time.
Unless you desperately want an EV. You’d be better of saving more for a Tesla (even second hand) or waiting till this gets updated.
90KW is slow charging???
I currently charge my car at 1.5kw, (which gives approx 10km range per hour of charge) and that's more than fine. Charge overnight, at work, shopping etc.
@tunzafun001 - You’re right, that is absolutely fine if you have regular access to power.
For those of us who don’t have the convenience of parking next to a power point or take road trips. It means much longer charging times. I’m sure it’s fine for most people. But having the ability to faster charge, is a benefit.
No it doesn't. You're completely assuming battery tech is exactly equal. The blade battery will fast charge longer towards 100% rather than throttle compared to lithium ion.
Some people live in apartments/strata housing and don't have access to power so rely on fast chargers. The extra minutes can add up over the course of the year
So you only go shopping or park at EV bays exactly synchronised to the estimated charge time of the car?
That's some bizarre way of living.
@plmko: @plmko - Most shopping centres have chargers <90kw so it won’t be a massive issue.
I am just saying, having a higher charging speed in this day and age is a benefit. Especially when you’re on a road trip or needing an urgent charge/quick tip up.
@plmko: If you didn’t have charging at home, how else would you do it though? It would make sense to go shopping while it charges rather than get an Uber home and back to the charging station.
It does have 3-phase AC charging (11-22kW), so if you use Chargefox to monitor your nearby shopping centre with a 22kW free charger and duck in when it's available, you should be able to charge for your week's worth of driving while doing a few hours of shopping.
The MG Zs ev seems a lot better.
the MG isn't very impressive in range/build quality/battery tech etc, it's only got more brand recognition because they bought the badge from the failed british car marker
That’s what I had heard also. I haven’t heard anything about build quality of these though. Have u?
not sure would have to wait for some real reviews locally. generally they are middle of the road- it's not going to be stellar but shouldn't be terrible rust boxes as they have the economy of scale and the volume to cut down on cost without it being the cheap landfill grade crap
@May4th: I reckon that will be key really. Local reviews. And more importantly getting enough people locally to be the Guinea pigs and demonstrate that the locally delivered version, under local conditions, meeting local standards etc all proves to be of decent enough quality. It took a long time for Korean cars to become trusted. Once most people knew someone who had had a Korean car for 10 years, everyone finally accepted that they’re quality.
@Ik0811 - MG is also backed by a dealer and proper warranty. I have seen some really good customer service reports from MG.
You’re very reliant on the importer, which is something I’d advise caution against. Do they have the same warranty support and knowledge as BYD. I’d say no.
People go on about how great blade is. Yes, it’s potentially safer. But it seems much more delicate. 90kw max from a 800v system. In comparison, other battery packs with 800v tech are charging at much faster speeds.
I stand by what I said and this is gauging early adopters.
The lack of CarPlay/Android auto is pretty poor. As it means expensive future map updates, if available.
that's fair, i think BYD probably didn't see aus as a big market for them to invest much infrastructure/resources in, hence the half attempt to breaking into the market
@May4th: @Il0811 - This is true and I’m sure they’re gauging since Tesla has a 6+ month wait.
There’s a heap of demand for EV. So I don’t blame them. Just this is a half backed product, compared to what they initially promised.
Once they make a decent return on their investment. BYD will probably come to the table. So I’d say wait 12 months for the early adopters and we’ll see a much better product.
Why does this feel like an advertisement/free advertising on the front page?
I really like BYD cars. Will keep an very close eye on them.
Better to keep both eyes on a Tesla at this stage.
Spend a bit more and get a tesla… the warranty ain't worth shit…
The importer probably buys the car for 20k…
spend a bit more
you mean twice as much?
$45k * 2 = $90k.
Base model 3 is $63.5k drive away (QLD).
only if you get can get by in a small sedan though. the comparable vehicle is model Y which will be at least 90k in australia. BYD has a smaller car which will likely be around 30-35k which is more model 3 size. a corolla does not cost the same as a RAV4
@May4th: Someone above posted the dimensions and said this is actually sized like a model 3. Minus the ground clearance I guess. Dunno how that translates to internal space etc tho
@rhino015: there's always a premium on suv shape(eg. mazda CX-3 vs mazda 2 that its based on, or any compact suv for that matter). bit of a rip off but i guess does make loading things easier with 4 door vs 5 doors
@May4th: Maybe the true bargain would be buying a Mazda 2 and getting a lift kit installed like people with 4WDs do haha. That way people can enjoy being higher off the ground with less cost lol.
I never understood that trend. Why take a perfect decent car and raise it so that it’s more expensive, handles worse brakes worse, accelerates worse, uses more fuel etc. Only upside I hear about is if you have kids you don’t have to bend over to buckle them in etc. People managed that for generations with no issue though haha. And it doesn’t explain the people without little kids still buying them
@rhino015: yep it is easier for your back when unloading kids/prams etc but SUVs are inferior in almost every other way with higher centre of gravity/poorer handling/road noise and being more expensive/fuel consuming. but it's the flavour of the decade money talks!
Don't understand why so many people like to compare BYD's SUV to Tesla's sedan. Having eyes disease?
And the fact the Tesla is also butt ugly. At least this is somewhat of an interest SUV design (despite my distastes for SUVs in general).
Agreed, Tesla's interior only can be described as shoddy.
Says someone who has never been in one and only reads the words of other keyboard warriors. Having owned a mutiltude of med/high end cars, I can tell you this absolutely isn't the case. As a direct comparison to a 2021 X3 3.0i, which is widely seen to have a good interior, a Model 3 SR+ is just as well built, has better plastic materials (BMW still insists on using old 1980s leather texture hard plastic on all surfaces below your waist), and is far more modern/up to date. The BMW wins on its in front of driver dashboard, HUD and rear air conditioning, but loses on seat comfort, materials choice, and technology. I mean it still had a cd player slot. Lol.
@[Deactivated]: I'm a caveman, OK? Whoever I am, seems you are confusing the visual and haptic. When sitting in a Tesla, can your eyes pick up the signal from your butt?
@[Deactivated]: As a caviet to this, a direct comparison between a 2017 Model S and a 2015? W212 Mercedes E class. The E class interior was better built, more solid, when you shake the console the Tesla does move a little and feel hollow, Mercedes is rock solid. However. The Tesla has superior material choice, leather on everything, (and Nappa leather too, not that shoddy Mercedes compound leather they have on non designo interiors), leather dash on the Tesla (Merc hard plastic), leather around the foot wells to the floor on the Tesla (plastic on Merc), the Tesla has an Alcantara roof lining, the Merc has that plastic net stuff, the wood is identical black eucalyptus, the switch gear is also identical (windows, gear shift etc). Infotainment and performance speak for themselves. So yes, E class better built, but less luxurious material selection. Both equally comfortable.
Who the (profanity) is BYD?
You would spend 45K-50K on an unknown brand with no local backup. WOW
I looked in the About Us on the Aus website and they seem to go out of their way to not tell you who they are. I wonder why? Are they not proud to stand behind their product?
Oh right, Its the Chinese Communist Party. You know, the pricks who are waging a economic war against us. The great humanitarians with over a million Uyghurs being raped and tortured. lets not forget they said they'd nuke us about six months ago.
And given the choice you would spend your money with the enemy rather than a high quality Japanese or German product?
I wouldn't spend a $1000 on that rubbish.
Show the evidence and let people decide themselves
They make batteries for Tesla FYI. But you probably don't care… I can already see the steam coming out of your ears.
Everybody keeps saying BYD make batteries for Tesla - they don't. They may in the future, but for now, the only Chinese company that makes batteries for Tesla is CATL.
BYD unknown… 😂🤣 Maybe you're not as into cars or EVs as you think you are. Just because they didn't have a huge presence in Australia, doesn't make them unknown.
Is that the fault of the buyer or the seller?
Both.
But for the poster to be begged for pointing out a reality is just head in the sand short term thinking.
China and other countries like it have long term plans and goals.
Which you raped and pillaged from the indigenous folk…
That escalated quickly.
Mdavent did that? He must be pretty old. You guys must know each other I guess?
I have owned a lot of things, never owned a farm directly (though wish I owned farming land as it is an excellent long term investment)
Try again grasshopper.
@RatBargain: Food security belongs to all citizens. The feds should treat it like other resources and if needed make sustainable food sources national security.
@RatBargain: Don't be facetious. I never cried about anything.
Just pointing out a fact.
Don't pretend you can attribute any emotional standpoint from reading my post.
But to be clear, I am envious of the forward thinking that China has in this area, far more intelligent than straya when it comes to productive investment.
It was you and your racist comment that was emotional and irrational.
BYD has the backing of the 50c army.
Their playbook is to spam junk, +1 for junk and -1 for people that don't agree.
Who the feck is BYD?
only the biggest ev maker in china. whilst you are at it please throw out your chinese made fridge, phone, tv etc. oh and half the building material in your house probably came from china so better start packing.
I wasn’t aware that Chinese companies had taken over the market for fridges, phones, TVs and bricks and pine in Australia.
Perhaps you’re thinking of manufacturing location and just exaggerating that point, but not referring to the actual companies designing the products?
it's just making the point that in today's global economy everything comes from overseas somewhere especially where material/labour is cheap like china india and SEA/latin america. if you are going to score political points when people just want to buy the basic essentials to get on with their lives then least you could do is to be consistent.
@May4th: Yeah using the cheapest labour in the world is a separate thing to the R&D, support, build quality, QA etc that goes along with using a trusted brand. All good if this is a brand you trust. But it’s quite understandable for it not to be for most Aussies
BYD is the 4th largest automaker by market capitalisation
Based on market cap, Tesla is ranked more than most of the rest combined aren’t they? I think that’s a poor method of judging the quality of a car because speculation could easily make up 80% of that. Number of car sales could be part of the picture, and I’m sure these guys sell a lot of cars, but then you also have to factor in the context of the sales. If they were global that would mean a bit more than if they’re just domestic in China where ppl may have fewer options and other incentives for various reasons. Also it might be a slightly different when here for various reasons. Different standards, conditions, design rules, modifications, potentially differences in manufacturing if they go that way rather than just doing a RHD conversion aftermarket. Etc etc
Rivian is no 10, so what ?
😂 Wow, you definitely have been deep throating Murdoch’s chode for quite some time.
Parroting News.com tropes and cliché like a sheep-parrot
Don't know if this can be considered a deal, Just posting for awareness
This should be a forum post at best. Even then, I'd say you wouldn't need to clog forums with this crap. Misleading price too, $47k in NSW for a car that's worth about half that.
You know, in china the same model (Han Plus EV) is selling at $30k. So no matter how they say it's cheap, the profit margin is still huge.
Hi, the same model is Yuan Plus EV.
Han is another B-class sedan (EV/2.0T) for around $47.3-62.7k.
FYI maybe check over google translate. https://www.autohome.com.cn/5499
Oh yah you are right it is Yuan indeed
You can't ignore the fact though this is a low-volume vehicle in Australia compared to China, labour to sell the car is far higher here and they have to get it here from China. These things add up, especially when introducing a brand new model. Likely it starts priced high and then gets a price cut when it doesn't meet expectations.
this. porsche 911 costs 160k AUD in the states
So you reckon the price of this will go down?
No, sorry this belong to forum, here it's just a clickbait.
If everyone just posted full price for awareness then this site would be useless
Spamazon reps are doing it everyday.
Agreed. To be fair I do find it hard to define the limit though. Because I remember seeing some Amazon prime movies listed and I did find that useful just to let me know about it. So I wouldn’t mind seeing a rare thing like the new Borat movie being on Amazon prime, but stuff like this I don’t want to see
CCP EV?
No thanks
Tesla is made in China.
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Did she time it?