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Free Calls/SMS and Roaming Charges to Ukraine @ Optus

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Taegukgi on 28/02/2022 - 23:37 facebook.com (1207 clicks)
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A great initiative from Optus. Hope this senseless war ends soon.

During this challenging time, we know staying connected is more important than ever. That is why Optus is crediting all calls and SMS to Ukraine, and roaming charges for Ukraine, until at least 13 March 2022.

We will be automatically crediting standard international calling and SMS charges for calls made from Australia to Ukraine from 28/02/2022 until at least 13/03/2022.
The same applies for international roaming charges for roaming usage in Ukraine during the same period of time.
For calling, this applies to eligible Consumer and Business Fixed and Postpaid Mobile plans in Australia. Customers on Optus Choice Plus plans will first need to purchase the Group 3 International Calling Pack to access calling entitlements to Ukraine.
For roaming, usage incurred on eligible Consumer and Business Postpaid Mobile plans will be credited. The credit will reflect on the relevant bill/invoice as “Ukraine Conflict Credit”.

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                    • [Deactivated] on 01/03/2022 - 14:42
                      -2

                      @BigBirdy: Enough of your look over there bs.

                      • Techie4066 on 01/03/2022 - 15:10
                        +4

                        @[Deactivated]: You should ask yourself why the Eastern Bloc countries wanted to join the EU or NATO, or at least strengthen their cooperation. Consider their interests, ways of life and governing practices next to those of Putin's Russia. Then you'd understand.

                        Copy pasting a list of conflicts (look over there) really isn't really the hot take you think it is.

                • xwu on 02/03/2022 - 03:28
                  +1

                  @BigBirdy: ANSWER HIS QUESTION!

              • CoreJava on 01/03/2022 - 20:21

                @[Deactivated]: Totally agree, US is using media to brainwash people. A lot of people don't know the truth and make comments

            • idonotknowwhy on 01/03/2022 - 15:35
              +1

              @BigBirdy: Stop interacting with the bot

      • disco deeva on 01/03/2022 - 13:30

        Argentina 1960's - ongoing.

      • shabaka on 01/03/2022 - 15:51
        +3

        Russia is invading Ukraine because Putin lost his mind, not because of NATO

        NATO isn't a threat, no one cared about what Russia does

        but they do now

        jeez, I didn't realise how many Russians were in Ozbargain

      • matttttt on 01/03/2022 - 22:47
        -3

        Go live in Cuba Russian apologist.

      • matttttt on 01/03/2022 - 23:26

        So according to the average OzBargain user, let's tear up any agreements with western democracies and join in with the world of authoritarian despots like Putin and Xi. No wonder Victorians seem stuck with the disaster prone Andrews government.

      • star-ggg on 03/03/2022 - 07:50

        but we're the good guys!

    • DonWilson on 01/03/2022 - 00:40
      +5

      Big potential in the downfall of Putin is public discontent. Helping cut them off from outside information and locking them into only propaganda doesn't really help with that.

      • CoreJava on 01/03/2022 - 20:23

        If you know russian people, Putin is hero mate. He is an action man. Ukraine is sided to the west and their political system were destabilised by US and the president is just a comedian. Basically a puppet.

        • matttttt on 01/03/2022 - 22:49

          I know Russia is a dictatorship, you think it's okay to invade a sovereign country apparently.

          • CoreJava on 02/03/2022 - 01:43
            -1

            @matttttt: Well, let's not criticise other country as we do not know exactly what happen. The news make ukraine is the victim. Are you sure about that? Seriously, the news and media only reporting what they want you to think. I suggest people to learn russia language and do the translate what putin exactly said.

    • xwu on 02/03/2022 - 03:24

      Why? People need to show support and say congratulations

  • T-man on 01/03/2022 - 00:18
    +13

    Free Calls/SMS to Taiwan next

    • Lets Go Brandon on 01/03/2022 - 00:20
      +2

      Very soon

    • nephilim on 01/03/2022 - 00:23

      everyone in Taiwan has line and/or wechat

      • mrgeckoz on 01/03/2022 - 01:03
        +1

        Gotta be line, they don’t trust wechat from the other side!

    • fuzor on 01/03/2022 - 00:31

      Yeah settle down.

    • FOX on 01/03/2022 - 01:40
      -1

      Taiwan can help!
      Oops, wrong place, lol!

    • CoreJava on 01/03/2022 - 20:23
      -1

      Let's hope that happen.

  • CoreJava on 01/03/2022 - 00:31
    +1

    I think optus should offer free calls to NATO countries.

  • simonpieman on 01/03/2022 - 00:38
    +3

    What's the number for the Azov Battalion?

    • [Deactivated] on 01/03/2022 - 00:42
      +3

      Check with Hilary or Biden's son. I'm sure they'd know.

    • Ponka on 01/03/2022 - 09:12

      Probably the same number for Russian National Unity I'd imagine?

  • [Deactivated] on 01/03/2022 - 00:50
    -6

    Trump means it when he says this wouldn't have happened to him. He would've simply respected Russia's rightful concerns. Ya'll wanted someone from the establishment, who wouldn't hurt anyone's feelings, well you got the dotard who's pushed Ukraine towards NATO and thus WW3. Hilary was open about a war with Russia, what made anyone think her bud would be any different.

    • SpaceNinja on 01/03/2022 - 01:00
      +6

      So the "rightful concerns" completely justify mounting an invasion and killing thousands of people?

      • consume on 01/03/2022 - 02:17
        +3

        If you’ve been keeping up with the history of western imperialism, you’d know that innocent people always get slaughtered (usually funded by the US of A) and this time is no different, however the outcry is quite hypocritical when the same thing has been happening to non-whites in the name of “freedom” and “democracy”.

        Maybe the negotiations that follow, can put a leash on NATO and the US, which would calm a threatened Russia and China.

        And for ffs, let’s hope the di*khead in charge doesn’t get us involved!

        • SpaceNinja on 01/03/2022 - 02:48
          -3

          So again you are saying that killing innocent people this time is ok because other innocent people have been killed before?

          • consume on 01/03/2022 - 02:56
            +4

            @SpaceNinja: When did I say anything about killing innocents or war being okay?

          • greatlamp on 01/03/2022 - 05:18
            +4

            @SpaceNinja: If people aren't allowed to understand the causes of war, they will keep repeating.

            It's possible for both sides to have done something 'wrong'.

          • matttttt on 01/03/2022 - 23:29

            @SpaceNinja: That's how it works in this alternative universe where sticking it to the man, i.e. the USA comes before paying attention to facts.

      • xwu on 02/03/2022 - 03:36

        Are you talking about the US?

    • xtremehell on 01/03/2022 - 01:05
      +1

      Agreed! Russia should be able to violate the sovereignty of other states when feel like their foreign policy is unfavourable.

      Yes the USA failed to persue a just war in Iraq, but it doesn't mean we should hold Russia to a lower standard. Talk about whataboutism.

      Also, it's about time Russia is held to account for its agreession and war crimes such as in South Ossetia (e.g. bombing hospitals). Not to mention giving AA missiles to brain-dead seperatists, killing a whole family of Australian kids.

      These are the people you chose to defend cos you love Trump? Get off Facebook and online brainrot/tribalism and look at the human toll this war is taking.

      • [Deactivated] on 01/03/2022 - 01:20

        Ukraine has been shelling Russian regions of Ukraine since 2014 with thousands dying. Should Russia have just sat back and watched it occur? This could've been peacefully prevented with dialogue, what's occurring now is extremely unfortunate.

        And agreed on holding Russia accountable for any war crimes, likewise should the US and all other western allies involved in the destruction of the below. No more double standards.

        China 1945-46
        Korea 1950-53
        China 1950-53
        Guatemala 1954
        Indonesia 1958
        Cuba 1959-60
        Guatemala 1960
        Belgian Congo 1964
        Guatemala 1964
        Dominican Republic 1965-66
        Peru 1965
        Laos 1964-73
        Vietnam 1961-73
        Cambodia 1969-70
        Guatemala 1967-69
        Lebanon 1982-84
        Grenada 1983-84
        Libya 1986
        El Salvador 1981-92
        Nicaragua 1981-90
        Iran 1987-88
        Libya 1989
        Panama 1989-90
        Iraq 1991
        Kuwait 1991
        Somalia 1992-94
        Bosnia 1995
        Iran 1998
        Sudan 1998
        Afghanistan 1998
        Yugoslavia – Serbia 1999
        Afghanistan 2001
        Libya 2011
        Iraq and Syria 2014 –
        Somalia 2011 –
        Iran 2020 –

        • simonpieman on 01/03/2022 - 01:27
          +4

          I think you're about to be de-monetized

          • [Deactivated] on 01/03/2022 - 01:32
            +1

            @simonpieman: Need money for that first.

        • xtremehell on 01/03/2022 - 01:33
          +5

          It's Ukrainian territory, Russia has no claim to the land or to police it's populace, regardless of the ethnicity of its occupants.

          Without this fundamental rule of state sovereignty — which itself was made in response to decades of wars for regional control in Europe — anything is allowed.

          For example, China is allowed to take Taiwan because of their diplomacy with western nations. But you wouldn't say that is right or just, would you?

          Likewise by your logic it would of been unjust for Putin and Russia to persue it's wars in Chechnya, since Ukraine is not allowed to police and govern its own territory.

          Keep going with your whataboutism though, no point arguing with Russian trolls.

          • [Deactivated] on 01/03/2022 - 01:36
            +14

            @xtremehell: Why is Israel allowed to be a country then? Why can the west support them but not others?
            Why won't Europe allow Catalonia to secede, even arresting Carles Puigdemont?
            Why was Kosovo allowed to break away, with NATO even bombing Belgrade, a city full of civilians, in order to enable that? Why were they allowed to use depleted uranium ON CIVILIANS there?

            https://balkaninsight.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/nato-bo…
            https://gdb.rferl.org/7DBE377F-C8F3-41A3-8409-56A76DD28C0F_c…

            Is this all "whataboutism" too?

            • Winston100s on 01/03/2022 - 04:16
              +3

              @[Deactivated]: They bombed Serbia using tomahawks equipped with nuclear warheads. But that's ok. There is no need to pray for countires that get destroyed if NATO does the bombing.

          • simonpieman on 01/03/2022 - 01:41
            +3

            @xtremehell: Taiwan is not comparable to Ukraine.

          • Creamsoda on 01/03/2022 - 01:46
            +7

            @xtremehell: Well that's the thing, we and our Allies recognises China as one country and Taiwan as apart of China. no? so if China attacks Taiwan its civil war No? if western nations send troops into Taiwan wouldn't that be invasion of China?

            This is totally different than Ukraine, as they are a recognized sovereign nation getting invaded by Russia another sovereign nation.

            • Techie4066 on 01/03/2022 - 23:23

              @Creamsoda: For the less informed, pls explain:

              I guess the US backed coup that overthrew a democratically elected government in 2013 conforms to your distorted view of state sovereignty though doesn't it?

              As far as I've read, their former President was conspiring with Russia.

          • oshkoshjosh4 on 01/03/2022 - 07:53
            +4

            @xtremehell: I guess the US backed coup that overthrew a democratically elected government in 2013 conforms to your distorted view of state sovereignty though doesn't it?

            If you virtue signalling morons actually cared about the lives of Ukrainian civilians you wouldn't champion the provocative statements and actions made by western governments. We all know the only people who want war are the industrialists who stand to profit from the deaths of tens of millions.

            • xtremehell on 01/03/2022 - 09:23
              -2

              @oshkoshjosh4: My girlfriend talked to another man, now I need to beat her senseless — oshkoshjosh4, 2022.

              • [Deactivated] on 01/03/2022 - 09:53
                +1

                @xtremehell: I hope you realise that's the most "whataboutism" comment here.

              • oshkoshjosh4 on 01/03/2022 - 09:57
                +3

                @xtremehell: Somehow you have managed to make both a strawman argument and a faulty analogy in one sentence. Impressive.

                Your analogy would make more sense if the other man wanted to install nuclear launch stations right at my front door. Not sure I'd call Ukraine Russia's girlfriend either, given the two countries have been in an armed conflict for the past 8 years (then again, I'm not familiar with your dating history).

          • DemocracyManifest on 01/03/2022 - 19:35

            @xtremehell: Taiwan is China lol, it should have never been allowed to exist as a seperate entity

      • Techie4066 on 01/03/2022 - 23:20
        +1

        How do people in their right mind disagree with this statement of fact. Clearly they're not exactly sane. Putin is a despot and is only in it for conquest, enough said.

        100% whataboutism after whataboutism from nub and the rest of them here. I can understand denouncing Western-blood-on-hands but I draw a line. They're blending everything else NATO has done into this messy contrived narrative about what is ultimately the unprovoked invasion of a sovereign state. As HasanAbi would say, that's psychotic.

  • paloverde88 on 01/03/2022 - 03:23
    +9

    Ukraine conflict credit?

    That’s an insult, it’s a bloody war not conflict

    • odysseus on 01/03/2022 - 03:41
      +1

      Must be following the Kremlin edict. Can't describe it as a "war", "invasion" or "attack" otherwise you will be penalised or lose your job.

      Found that that is partly due to a law change he made in 2015 that they only have to reveal military deaths if there's a "war" going on. So must avoid that.

  • MINKx on 01/03/2022 - 06:16

    The world gone mad. And, if you listen to the MSM, they all sound like they wish for Big Mushrooms…

  • dlovep on 01/03/2022 - 07:28
    +3

    No idea why a deal end up like a war/politic/nation/sovereign/history/racist/genocide/#whatever/#whoever debate competition… There is a page call "Forum" for the purpose.

    • Techie4066 on 01/03/2022 - 23:24

      It's not like there's a hugely contentious illegal invasion which commenced only 5 days ago, right?

      • dlovep on 02/03/2022 - 17:26

        Yes, but if you click on a deal, you will want more information but not like debate up/down vote on every comment, right?

        • Techie4066 on 02/03/2022 - 18:18

          Well, you'd think so, but we have "Russian infiltrators" among us.

  • Chocobros on 01/03/2022 - 08:02

    I upvoted this deal and it came up with a warning sign advising I am affiliated with the poster or the deal… But I am affiliated with neither. What gives?

    • YeemaiI on 01/03/2022 - 08:10
      +2

      Probably a previous comment made by you that might have seemed to the system(?) like you were once, or are, working at Optus.

      • Chocobros on 01/03/2022 - 17:01

        Ah thanks for the info :)

  • Hi Hi Hi on 01/03/2022 - 08:24
    +7

    The Russian-Ukrainian war changed its flavor:
    The United States and NATO clearly can turn Ukraine into a buffer zone with Russia, but insist on pushing Ukraine to war with Russia.

    If it wasn't for Biden on stage, there would be no war. Russia is no longer the former Soviet Union, and despite Putin's dictatorship, the country remains a semi-democratic regime. The only reason for Biden to do this is because his domestic and foreign affairs have been a mess since he took office, and he desperately needs to create an "enemy" that he can defeat even at the expense of Ukrainian lives, and continues to smear Russia's international image.

    • srhardy on 01/03/2022 - 11:02
      +1

      putain is more legit a democratic leader than biden. 1)putin popularity >80%, Bidens, <30% 2) Biden's democratic party STOLE the election with MASSIVE, PERVASIVE AND WIDESPREAD FRAUD (they didnt do enough fraud the last time and Hillary lost) ~ Now I know its a subject the press say dont look at the facts, trust us, were telling you it was free and fair ~ to that I say the CIA and KEY FBI worked to pull this off and they suceeded and its led here… Its a plan, just not mine

      • Hi Hi Hi on 01/03/2022 - 12:48

        I totally agree with your statement. Biden and the current Democrats party are truly disaster for democracy countries around the world. As an Australian I have donated over $300 this year to American conservatives.

        We have to protect our own voting system and we must not allow what happened in the US happen in Australia.

        • Deals For Days on 01/03/2022 - 13:42

          The attorney general - Barr - appointed by trump said himself there was no meaningful level of fraud that would have changed the outcome of the election.

          Just because your candidate lost doesn't mean the vote was rigged. Trump was a hugely unpopular candidate, especially with his response to covid, it's no wonder he lost.

          • Hi Hi Hi on 01/03/2022 - 14:26

            @Deals For Days: I'm not a fan of Trump, the only reason I support him is conservative philosophies.

            Whether the ballots have been falsified on a large scale, you can learn about the fact that after the vote counting was suddenly stopped on the day of the election, all the millions of extra ballots were mailed ballots. And the illegal deletion of ballot records by various Democratic secretaries of state. They thwart any quest for electoral justice.

            At present, Trump's approval rate in the Republican Party is still more than 70%, and every candidate for the House and Senate who Trump endorsed has been successfully elected.

            Do you really think Biden can surpass Obama's votes that year?

            I suggest you take a look at the recent CPAC conference.

            Find out how a sitting US president got banned from Facebook, Twitter, YouTube.

            Review your sources of information

            Barr is also part of the swamps that the Democrats set up the Jan. 6 committee for the sole purpose of hoping to conduct a witch hunt on Trump and his staff. Block Trump's 2024 candidacy.

            • Deals For Days on 01/03/2022 - 16:05

              @Hi Hi Hi: Mate, you're literally just repeating conspiracy theories. I think you need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture - obviously there's not point discussing whether or not you think the election was fair but consider the following:
              - trump appointed THREE justices - 1/3 of the entire bench! - to SCOTUS in his term. republicans had a 6/3 majority at the time of election litigation
              - trump appointed almost as many judges in one term as obama did in two - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_Unit…

              do you truly think that Trump justices would have let a fraudulent election slide if it had actually been 'stolen'? Why would they?

              and regarding biden votes - democrats routinely win the popular vote. the electoral college currently favours democrats.

              • Hi Hi Hi on 01/03/2022 - 16:46

                @Deals For Days: Trump is a political amateur, and his appointments are mostly based on party recommendations. This is also the reason why he frequently changed some officials during his tenure.

                In any case, the sitting president should not be silenced. Nor should an investigation of ballot fraud be deterred.

                Please take a look at the electoral reform ACT that Biden is pursuing. A voting process that does not require ID.

                How could a president who made the U.S. significant economic growth could lose in the midterm elections?

                Trump lost the election because of mass mail-in ballots. Many U.S. states are already working to patch up voting loopholes.

                Looking at what Facebook has done to Australia, it is not difficult to understand that Facebook has silenced Trump until now.

                • Deals For Days on 01/03/2022 - 16:57
                  +1

                  @Hi Hi Hi: We don't require ID in Australia to vote, do you think the last election here was stolen also?

                  I'd also like you to consider why Trump's election was 'stolen', but republicans made GAINS in the senate and house. IF the dems rigged the election, why would they rig it to lose house and senate seats? Makes no sense.

                  "How could a president who made the U.S. significant economic growth could lose in the midterm elections?"
                  - He has polled the worst among any modern president, that's how. Economic growth isn't the only thing voters look for.

                  "Trump lost the election because of mass mail-in ballots. Many U.S. states are already working to patch up voting loopholes."
                  - mail in ballots have been allowed in many states for decades (e.g. Arizona). How come this wasn't an issue until trump lost?

                  Again, you're allowed to be disappointed that your preferred candidate lost, but that doesn't mean the election was stolen. Trump has always been a divisive character. He handled the pandemic terribly. That's why he lost.

                  • Hi Hi Hi on 01/03/2022 - 23:03

                    @Deals For Days: This is my last reply to your message. As you can see, English is not my native language, but that doesn't detract from my deepest love for republican countries.You can google the information I provided, it's not hard to verify.

                    We don't require ID in Australia to vote, do you think the last election here was stolen also? Registering to vote in Australia is tied to your citizenship status. If you are not a citizen, you cannot register to vote. That's why you'll be fined if you vote in absentia, including cancellation of your driver's license.

                    I'd also like you to consider why Trump's election was 'stolen', but republicans made GAINS in the senate and house. IF the dems rigged the election, why would they rig it to lose house and senate seats? Makes no sense.

                    Republicans used to have majorities in both the House and Senate. The current majority in the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives are Democrats.

                    • mail in ballots have been allowed in many states for decades (e.g. Arizona). How come this wasn't an issue until trump lost?
                      In the last U.S. election, many Democratic-controlled states in the United States passed executive orders to expand mail-in ballots before the election, but this actually requires a vote in the state legislature to change, but in the Democratic-controlled states, this is violated constitution.In the name of social distancing, they did not allow any Republicans at the counting station to oversee the counting process on the day the votes were counted.

                    First of all, I rarely read the polls of the white-left media. Because they have no notarization at all. There is no bottom line on electoral notarization. CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post all pretended not to have seen the information in the laptop of Biden's son in Ukraine who betrayed American interests. Such important information was not disclosed before the election. They said it was a Russian conspiracy, and they said it would affect the electoral notarization.

                    Failure to disclose this information will affect election notarization. And how the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is a stock marketer like Warren Buffett. I don't think you know that either.

                    Trump is a businessman, he is rich. But he really didn't get money by getting involved in politics.The charges used by the House of Representatives to impeach Trump twice were false. They have checked several times all the tax and legal information since Trump has been in business, but there is still no substantive evidence.

                    And for political families like Biden, Obama and Bush, politics is their tool to grab their wealth.

                    When Covid-19 came, Trump was the first to speak out about blocking flights from China from entering the United States. The Democratic House Speaker at the time accused Trump of calling him a racist.

                    The rapid development of the vaccine was also promoted by Trump with all his strength. At that time, Biden accused him of being a lunatic and said that such a rapid development of a vaccine was not safe. As a result, after the vaccine manufacturer developed the vaccine, it did not announce it at the first time, in order to make the development of the vaccine appear to be developed after Biden came to power. Such a ridiculous story, you heard that right. And Biden was one of the first to get the vaccine. Contradictory isn't it?

                    When Trump had Covid-19, these people came forward and said the president was no longer able to fulfill his responsibilities as commander-in-chief and should be replaced.

                    do you remember? How ISIS took over the entire Middle East when Obama was president and how many refugees were fleeing to Europe. ISIS was eliminated within three months of Trump becoming president.

                    When Trump was president, North Korea, Russia, Afghanistan, none of them went wrong.
                    As soon as Biden came up, it all turned around. When you searched the Internet to find out how many Black Hawk helicopters and Humvees were sent to the Taliban by Biden.

                    By the way, you can also search for photos and videos of children hanging on the barbed wire when the women in Afghanistan threw their children over the barbed wire during the withdrawal of the US military.

                    If I had to say that Democrats brought the most to the world from Obama to Biden, it was refugees

                    I can sense that you are a young person, and it is normal for young people to like the nice words of the American Democrats, but when you are mature, you will know what kind of decision is really good for your country and people.

                    To tell you one last time, what I like is Trump's policies, Only a child can be a fan of someone

          • srhardy on 01/03/2022 - 23:14
            +1

            @Deals For Days: Barr, his father gave a wall-street crook called Epstine a job as a school teacher, Barr also brokered as Epstines lawyer the sweetheart jailtime deal

            I dont expect Barr could find a light switch, let alone tell the truth about it!

            Oh, Epstine didnt kill himself, Mossad did… They solved a murder, alone in a locked room with no way to kill yourself under 24/7 surveillance ~ turns out you just bribe the guards to SLEEP through the crime and turn off the CCTV and do any jailtime that they might face and in return they will get sweetheart jobs for life that pay extraordinary well and your kids, set for life, any college they want, intern for an judge they like and a good job offer to go with it… Id have taken the deal myself

    • Deals For Days on 01/03/2022 - 13:44
      +4

      Russia 'semi-democratic' lol? He literally poisons his political enemies, Russia is not a democracy.

      Also the ultimate conservative take - Putin decides to invade Ukraine as he becomes an old feeble man, and somehow this is Biden's fault?

    • netsurfer on 01/03/2022 - 21:07

      Honestly, I think nowadays, there are just far too many people feel very strongly on both sides. That's how you get loyal supporters.

      If you really gone back in history, I don't think you can say the USA republic party had nothing to do with this.

      Smearing Russia's international image, this has happened for years, but honestly, having the same leader for years doesn't really help. Are you seriously going to tell me Russia only has 1 person capable of leading?

      This whole thing is complicated. Yes, I know the so called MSM had been doing (and let's for the moment, assume MSM are all left (even though I prefer to think there are both)). However, what has happened so far does make you question why Putin's team messed up like this? Let's be frank here, even US got it wrong too (most expected the war should be over by now). It's not exactly the situation where Putin could tell the world… told you so.

      The argument of this politician is bad, but the other politician from another country (i.e. Russia) is better or good. Honestly, wake up. They are all bad, selfish. We are no saints either. The ones here, what exactly do they do for us? A lot of the them are a bunch of clowns. Backstabbing each other, wasting money.

      If there is one thing I learned from this is that a lot of us think we know what's going on, but honestly, we have zero idea. We don't have access to the real sources of truth.

      Hope the war will stop very soon. Blaming people or history doesn't solve the problem.

    • Techie4066 on 01/03/2022 - 23:27
      +1

      The United States and NATO clearly can turn Ukraine into a buffer zone with Russia, but insist on pushing Ukraine to war with Russia.

      They don't want one 30 year old country being taken by an aggressor, by force. Isn't that reasonable?

      • Hi Hi Hi on 02/03/2022 - 00:10

        as a buffer. Ukraine remains neutral and does not join NATO. There is no reason for Russia to attack Ukraine. Russia's current GDP is not as good as that of South Korea, and he simply does not have the ability to swallow Ukraine.

        And the occupation of Ukraine is directly adjacent to NATO. Are you Putin would you do this?

        I mean this aggression can be avoided, tell Putin we won't let Ukraine join NATO, but if you invade Ukraine. We will send troops, do you think Putin will invade Ukraine?

        • Techie4066 on 02/03/2022 - 11:08
          +2

          Ukraine remains neutral and does not join NATO.

          That's. their. choice. They are not a puppet state of, or beholden to a despotic kleptocracy. Joining EU/NATO enables greater economic prosperity being integrated with a real economic powerhouse. Only Russia wants to consign them to stagnation, like what they do to their own, just because of their geographic proximity. End of.

          • Hi Hi Hi on 02/03/2022 - 12:34
            +1

            @Techie4066: English is not my native language, maybe the words are inaccurate, I hope you can understand

            You just said a small part of it, I will answer it for you in four parts, which should be regarded as a class in a university course. This is also my last reply to you and related questions. I hope you can think hard in the future.

            First, distinguish between NATO and the EU.
            NATO is a military organization that was established to fight Warsaw, which was under the direct control of the former Soviet Union. Currently the Soviet Union is over, and the largest communist country in the world is currently China not Russia (currently Russia is not a communist country, although Putin is a dictator, but Russia's current state structure is built as a democratic country. Russia and China are ruled by the Communist Party China below is completely different.)

            The EU advocates European pluralism and unity, promotes European peace, pursues a prosperous life for citizens, realizes sustainable socio-economic development, ensures basic European values, and strengthens international cooperation.

            The goals of the two organizations are very different. NATO does not actually bring economic prosperity. Please note this.

            Second, "their. choice"
            Joining the EU will undoubtedly bring huge economic benefits to the former Soviet Union countries. But this requires permission from both sides and some hard requirements.

            Not only the will of the Ukrainian people, but also the will of the people of the EU member states must be respected. Opening the door will have a huge impact on the people of any country. This is one reason why the UK left the EU.

            Third, hard requirements: as a candidate country for the EU, some conditions must be met. Here I will only mention a few points: economic indicators, corruption indicators, etc. For specific terms, please refer to the Copenhagen Treaty: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Copenhagen_criteria

            Ukraine does not actually meet the requirements of joining the European Union in this regard. If Ukraine is forcibly integrated into the European Union, it will not only cause a shock to the local economy of Ukraine (a large number of people will move out of Kyiv and enter Western and Northern Europe) and it will be Democracy is under attack. Because the education received by the people of these ex-communist countries and the understanding of world civilization still have huge deviations, which requires step-by-step education and influence. We have all seen the various social problems that Germany faced after accepting 1 million Middle Eastern refugees.

            If the EU unconditionally grants Ukraine's accession to the EU after the Ukraine crisis, then future division of the EU will be possible. Under the supervision of the EU, Ukraine needs to complete some requirements that need to be met, and the opening must be phased.

            Fourth, the method
            militarily
            List Ukraine as a neutral country, demilitarize it, and sign an agreement between the EU and Russia not to deploy troops in Ukraine. (Try not to involve NATO, because NATO members are not all stakeholders, nor are they full-fledged democracies)

            Economically
            Step-by-step acceptance of Ukraine

            politically and culturally
            Overseeing Ukraine's political system and cultivating correct cultural values

            Periodically evaluate the above content, and establish an exit and punishment mechanism.

            If Russia still dares to invade Ukraine, then what I'm saying is: 'Under the watchful eye of God, we will fight for the notary of this world and die without regret.

  • 4foxache on 01/03/2022 - 08:28
    +1

    As sad as it is what's happening in Ukraine hearing reports they are blocking Africans from fleeing the country on racial grounds its hard to feel sorry for them.

    • Techie4066 on 01/03/2022 - 23:28

      The Nigerian embassy only secured passage to Romania. They aren't Ukranian citizens and can't board a train that's crossing a border without the minimum documentation required, as unfortunate as it is. Also seen a story of Ukrainians that have had to walk to the Polish border.

  • Chichiwu on 01/03/2022 - 08:39
    +3

    Lovely offer and hopefully next is not my hometown Taiwan. It's really sad that we live under threats everyday.

  • Xianese on 01/03/2022 - 08:49
    +10

    Who knew there were so many tossers on OzBargain arguing for war?

    • SimAus007 on 01/03/2022 - 09:05
      +7

      This was a deal for Optus users to get free calls to Ukraine.
      If I wanted updates on the war it certainly wouldn't be from OzBargain comments.
      A good deal for those with family and friends living in Ukraine - Thanks Optus.

    • Tock on 01/03/2022 - 09:37
      +9

      And pro-Russia/Putin/Trump. Getting dumber reading OzB comments.

      • [Deactivated] on 01/03/2022 - 09:50
        +2

        I'm surprised some of you can get any dumber.

      • nephilim on 01/03/2022 - 10:52
        +1

        Mate go check the channel 7 news fb, Yesterday they posted how sad it was that a white person had to give birth in there basement. Thousands of babies are born everyday in refugee tents.

        • Techie4066 on 01/03/2022 - 23:31
          +2

          As far as I've seen they did not frame that story in a sad light, more a celebration given the rubbish going on above ground. It simply demonstrates that life goes on, albeit in a different format for the Ukranian people. We have to recognise this is the human toll, they are all victims of war.

  • abctoz on 01/03/2022 - 09:11
    +4

    cool free roaming charges time to go to Ukraine for holiday /s

  • loropy9 on 01/03/2022 - 09:39
    +1

    Sounds like warheads will soon replace airplanes over Europe.

  • PLIHA5 on 01/03/2022 - 11:00

    Thanks Optus!

    • srhardy on 01/03/2022 - 11:07
      +2

      You know you can call Ukraine and get on the internet in the Ukraine because Russia refused to target it unlike the USA, who always knocks out the phones/internet/electricity and water ~ so it takes years to rebuild, a job they then give contractors that happen to be family to the ones in charge of ordering the carnage?!?

  • srhardy on 01/03/2022 - 11:04

    Russia have had peace talks now. The offer to stop, withdraw and settle it once and for all with elections (amazing, they persist) and whats the chances the west will let it succeed?

    ZERO

    • Techie4066 on 01/03/2022 - 23:33

      lol and somehow this is the least neurotic of the disagreeable takes

  • BigBirdy on 01/03/2022 - 11:42
    +2

    Too many fools sucked in by Russian propaganda. Russia is a legitimate threat to Europe. It has form, and despite it’s economy being similar size to Australia (up and down depending on oil, gas, iron ore, etc prices), it’s military is a substantive threat to the world. Russia has also proven to be a threat to it’s immediate neighbours, such as Georgia, Chechnya, Moldova, Belarus, former Yugoslav states, and Ukraine.

    • [Deactivated] on 01/03/2022 - 13:18
      +2

      "Too many fools are sucked in by MSM."

      FTFY.

      • MissileGirl on 01/03/2022 - 19:04
        +2

        Ukraine and Donetsk region have been fighting for over 8 years. It's terrible, but we have no mention in the MSM about their struggles.

        We have Patrick Lancaster telling the truth but it is really sad what has happened. Putin went in with the goal of peace and to put an end to the daily shelling events. This has happened in Donetsk and Luhansk, but the problem has just moved to another area, albeit with less Russian population.

        Putin to some extent has done the right thing for ethnic Russians, but it's a sad outcome overall.

        • netsurfer on 02/03/2022 - 11:55

          Let's forget about MSM for a minute. Just go back to some common sense.

          • Due to happened in Crimea, we all know Ukraine would be very angry. It took away a sizeable income source and 30% of country's energy supply.
          • Before that, less than 25% of Ukrainians think they should join NATO. We all know what happened to that figure after Crimea.
          • It changed Ukraine's political landscape in a significant way. It took away an area where there is a huge amount of support for pro Russian candidates.
          • Do you really think it will be easier for a pro Russian candidate to win a presidential election after a big chuck of votes are now gone?
          • Ukraine and Donetsk region. Sure, that's terrible and Russia certainly are no saint here. After Crimea, what do you think people in Donetsk region would want? You really expect Ukraine to just give it away?

          Trying to do the right thing for ethnic Russians is a nice spin of this. What happened to Crimea sent a very clear signal to Ukraine: Russia no longer trusts Ukraine (despite majority of Ukrainians did not want to join NATO). I know Crimea is complicated and technically, years ago, it was used to reconcile the relationship between Ukraine and Russia. Everyone is selfish. NATO (which includes US) and Russia both miscalculated. Yes, we know US doesn't care about Ukraine, but there was no need to say it out loud and basically indirectly gave Putin the green light to proceed. Ukraine's nationalism in full display surprised everyone. It was not a welcome big brother (Russia) party from Ukraine.

          My crude view is that this feels like a cleanup after Russia took what it wanted: Crimea. It wasn't supposed to be this bloody. NATO wanted to close a blind eye on this initially. I think in this case the MSM ruined Russia (and to a lesser extent NATO)'s plan. Most of us are just a bunch of selfish, bad people.

    • axlfan on 01/03/2022 - 14:03
      -2

      Lol Australia does not have enough nukes to destroy the world 1000 times over. Love Stralia but we are no Russia. If the US and UK didnt have our back, China would invade us in a week.

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