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[NSW] Free Tickets to Royal Easter Show for Children 5-11 Who Get COVID-19 Vaccines 1-18 April at Olympic Park @ NSW Government

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Hope this isn’t going to be too controversial.

From the NSW government website

Every child aged 5 to 11 who gets a COVID-19 vaccine at the Sydney Olympic Park Vaccination Centre between 1 – 18 April 2022 will receive a free children’s ticket to the Sydney Royal Easter Show for use at any time during the show (8 – 19 April, subject to capacity).

Consent is required from a parent or guardian at booking and at the appointment. If the parent or guardian is unable to attend the appointment, a nominated accompanying adult can be identified during the booking process.

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      • -6

        Yes, because having an opinion is morally wrong.

        • +17

          Apparently you think my opinion that sharing an opinion can be morally wrong is itself morally wrong. Which proves my thesis that having an opinion can be morally wrong.

      • +14

        I don't have enough downvotes for these brain-dead US podcast regurgitators.

        • +3

          Yup, I ran out of them.

      • I'm more amazed we have so many scientists on ozb. Can't wait for them to release their scientific research on harmful effects of these vaccines

        • Scientists? More like say what the person who pays you tells you to say

    • +1

      What don't they agree with?

    • Agree 100%

    • Careful, you might be considered anti-vax because of a different thought

  • +6

    I mean, when they bring out freebies awhile after the vaccines are available (and not also give them to those who have already had it) it seems like they are telling people to wait til theres a deal out there before getting it

    • +9

      Yeah it’s worth risking serious illness for a free ticket to something for sure…

    • +4

      I mean, you'd hope parents arent that petty, but Ive been involved with child safety before and…. Lots are.

      For those who are, the "aww bruh, sumfin free" appeal does actually get those who arent opposed, but are truly lazy, off their asses.

    • +12

      Vaccines are readily available. If anyone hasn't gotten one yet it's because they are already waiting indefinitely.

      • +1

        Correct, but indefinitely just means they don't know how long they'll be waiting. These little nudges are designed to wear people down. Everyone has their breaking point, including everyone already vaxxed.

    • +6

      Agreed that it should be offered to any kids who’ve already had a vax too.

      But something needs to be done, NSW has under 50% kids vax’d and 95% of adults.

      • -7

        Maybe black mailing mandating an experimental gene therapy against someone's livelihood i.e. their jobs just might have something to do with those numbers and why there's such a difference in them. Just because something mightn't have happened to you from these jabs doesn't mean it hasn't happened to someone else. They are far from safe for everyone, most countries aren't even allowing them for anyone under the age of 30 for that very reason.

        • +19

          Gene therapy, what the shit dude?

          mRNA vaccines aren't gene therapy anymore that eating chicken gives you chicken gene therapy.

          • +6

            @Pogo: Hahahaha cracked me up… Although I do find myself randomly pecking at things on the ground every now and then…

          • @Pogo: Its been proven that the mRNA can go into the liver and begin replicating at a potentially indefinite amount…There was a Swedish study about it

            • @m0tyrider: There wasn't, you are misunderstanding or misquoting the study, as it was not showing it occuring within the body.

              • @SBOB: That is true - but if it happens outside the body, what is to say it won't happen inside the body?

                Kind of seems like a mute point.

                There is still a risk of it happening.

                • +1

                  @m0tyrider:

                  but if it happens outside the body, what is to say it won't happen inside the body?

                  thats not how scientific studies work.
                  In vitro testing is just one stage, and doesn't directly reflect to indicate that the same results happen inside the body.
                  As i said, you are misquoting it, which is therefore giving an incorrect assesement or review on what the study finding had concluded/found

                  We (thankfully) dont work like petri dishes in lab conditions, despite how much some scientists wish we did (would make medicine much much easier if it was the case)

              • @SBOB: but he/she watched a video on the internet so it must be true

      • +1

        Should lower the drinking age to 5, give kids a real incentive.

    • +5

      Agreed, stupid idea.

  • +58

    Just seems in poor taste to me. Shouldn't need to reward/persuade or anything whether you get your kids jabbed or not. Leave it to be 100% based on choice.

    • -3

      You’re right, parents should just do the right thing if they cared for their kids and get them vaccinated.

      • +8

        Yes that's your opinion and I completely agree, but it shouldn't need any "sweeteners" their health should be enough.

        • +1

          I suppose if they’re just turning 5, or if there has been a legit reason they couldn’t get vaccinated until now, it’s a nice bonus.

        • Give the kiddy a free showing at least

    • +8

      Im neutral on this reward thing, but I just think that if they were going to 'reward' people for it they should reward those who have already done so (without the promise of it in the first place)

    • +1

      I disagree. Public health measures should be encouraged. Even well intentioned people are lazy and might not be motivated enough to get it. Like mandatory super for your financial 'health'. Vehicles, business, plumbing etc regulations so you don't cause shit for other people. We live in a society. Vaccines aren't just for you. It saves other, more vulnerable peoples lives that can't take/don't respond to one.

  • +15

    It should be for all kids who have been vaccinated — and why at Olympic park only?

    • +1

      I assume they are trying to promote "get vaxxed and then head into the easter show after" (which is also at Olympic Park).

    • Because its the largest centre and they're expecting an influx of people.

  • +13

    What are the anti vaxxers going to do now that public display of swastikas is illegal in NSW?

    • +17

      What does anti-vax have to do with swastikas?

      • +9

        They fly them at anti vax protests

        • +3

          Hmm that’s weird. Are they making the statement government is oppressive like the Nazi regime or do they hold some Nazi ideology themselves?

          • +11

            @FireRunner: Both. I first learned it when an anti vax colleague compared his plight to the Jews of the Holocaust.

            • @belongsinforums: Possibly, though I suspect most don’t necessarily agree. They’re probably the most eccentric of the colourful group known as antivaxxers

              • +8

                @FireRunner: if you're at a protest, and one of the protesters is flying a nazi flag, and nobody does anything about it, you're at a nazi protest

        • +1

          i don't agree with anti vaxxers but its clear there are fringe elements who attach themselves to every protest out there. same thing happened to the 1% protests on wall street, the loonies moved in and tarnished the message that the original group was trying to push.

      • +3

        Common cheap technique of discrediting used by those with no argument. Flat-earthers is another one commonly used.

      • Please back that up.

        • -1

          Dude just watch Joe Rogan on YouTube. All the science you'll ever need

          • @belongsinforums: Not my thing, but thanks for your recommendation. Shows the limitations of the little shrunken nugget on your shoulders though 😆

            And as I thought. Nothing was backed up, because it's uter nonsense.

    • -1

      Russian flags.

    • They can still wander around with their nooses. I’m sure the “proud boys” are OK with the pivot. They are still, conveying, the same thoughts.

  • +53

    Goddamn, what is wrong with society where an offer like this is controversial. We are lucky to have vaccines, it just sucks that there are idiots out there that try to tear it all down.

    Well done OP for sharing this.

    • +27

      I have no idea. The morons sitting outside Parliament House are the saddest bunch of protestors I’ve ever seen. Deluded morons who, really, don’t seem to have a life. A good dose of Covid and we might clear the steps of the lot of them.

      • +22

        I have a couple of suggestions:

        • Make anti-vaxers what 30 minutes of a baby with whooping cough in intensive care
        • Send anti-vaxers to third world countries where kids are still dying of diseases that could be prevented by vaccination

        Vaccinations weren't an issue 100 years ago, because everybody knew multiple people who had died of measles, smallpox, polio, etc.

        • +2

          if this was a traditional vaccine then I don't think ppl will have issues taking it…

          • +5

            @abctoz: What the hell constitutes a "traditional vaccine"???

          • @abctoz: The measles vaccine has been around since 1963 and people still have issues taking it.

            • @bio: that's why everybody is talking about it on ozbargain right?

              • @abctoz: No, but if the post was "Free Tickets to Royal Easter Show for Children Who Take The Measles Vaccine" there would be a lot of autism-related chatter here.

                Mine was a reply to your "traditional vaccine" comment. Measles vaccine is as traditional as it gets but people are still being idiots.

                • +1

                  @bio: not nearly as much imo, covid vaccine is on a different level

                  -new mrna technology
                  -multiple jabs
                  -massive restrictions for those not taking a vaccine

                  you can't even fly without taking a vaccine lol…

                  • +1

                    @abctoz: Constantly changing the goal posts, but I'll bite:

                    1. mRNA technology is not new. The protein it encodes is new, but that's because the disease is new.
                    2. Many childhood vaccines and the flu vaccine are multiple jabs. Nothing exciting here.
                    3. Restrictions are because this is a pandemic. Nothing to do with the type of the vaccine.
                    • @bio: 1 its new in the sense that this is first time it has been mass deployed
                      2 don't know enough to comment, except i don't recall doing multiple jabs
                      3 except mrna vaccines were and still are the pre-dominant vaccine, and only recently has there been alternatives

                      for the record i've taken plenty of vaccines so its not like i'm anti-vax. but i'm going to wait a few years to see affects of the covid vaccine…

                      what i find fascinating is why people are so tribal about the topic, like why not just let results speak for themselves, i'll be more than happy to be an idiot and find out mrna vaccines are perfectly safe

                      • +1

                        @abctoz:

                        i don't recall doing multiple jabs

                        National Immunisation Program: https://www.health.gov.au/health-topics/immunisation/when-to…

                        I'm not tribal and results already speak for themselves. I also have no objections to people who want to wait until more evidence is available (although I don't agree that we should be doing that).

                        As I mentioned above I only replied to your comment "if this was a traditional vaccine then I don't think ppl will have issues taking it" which is obviously false as can be seen from the anti-vax movement which existed before Covid.

                        • @bio:

                          which is obviously false as can be seen from the anti-vax movement which existed before Covid

                          i don't think its false

                          i've taken the measles vaccine and not the covid vaccine, thats 1 data point…

                          • @abctoz:

                            thats 1 data point

                            Well, you seem to have successfully proved your point.

                            Jokes aside, people have always been wary of science until a scientific fact becomes an "established fact". We make fun of church rejecting the idea of a spinning earth, but we are currently living in a very similar age.

                            Take a look at https://qz.com/2085362/a-history-of-legal-vaccine-mandates-s… for a history of anti-vaccine movements (which all have become "traditional" vaccines in time).

                            • @bio: i'll be extremely happy to be wrong

                    • @bio:

                      1. Its not new but its not really successful either. The theory is sound, but in practice its never made it out of clinical trials until this 'emergency'
                      2. Multiple jabs within 1 year then 6 months then 3 months intervals? Sounds like they know what they are doing.
                      3. Just like swineflu and SARS? Massive pandemics that we locked down for.
        • Vaccinations weren't an issue 100 years ago, because everybody knew multiple people who had died of measles, smallpox, polio, etc.

          No *. If that was true it wouldn't be an issue now either when everybody knows multiple people who had died of COVID-19. People are and have always been idiots.

          • @bio: I don't know anyone that has died from Covid? Many Australians don't, I would venture.

            • @BartholemewH: Good for you, I hope it stays that way. I know multiple, one in my family.

      • +7

        Imagine being so petty that you actually want others to catch covid so you can clear the front lawns of Parliament House.

        • +27

          Imagine being scared of a vaccine

        • +7

          These guys have been there for months. If they are so sure about Covid then a good dose of it shouldn’t affect them. The message they are spreading has caused people to die. I have no issue with harmless crackpots; these guys aren’t harmless. Why is it petty to expect them to live with the consequences of what they preach?

    • +9

      Its the internet, thats all.

      Id bet 99% of these nay-sayers dont even contact their MP to discuss their objection.

      Its just easy to vent online, and look like a goober.

      • +8

        Because they DONT CARE!! You think Scomo cares about you? You think Dan cares about you? Or you think they care about keeping their job and giving hand outs to their mates who will in turn help to get them elected again.

        We had MASSIVE protests in the Melbourne against Dan's Pandemic bill and those who decided to vote the bill in at the final hour made social media profiles private, removed comments and had google remove negative reviews.

        Lok at what happened in Canada, not a SINGLE politician talked to the organisers. That protest went on for WEEKS!! Instead they double down and used an emergency act to pull apart the protest.

        • +3

          Thanks. I agree, this is a great deal. Upvoted.

        • +6

          It was glorious to see the EU members rip Trudeau a new 🕳️ while all he could do was stand there and take it.

          It was a small justice for what he are doing to the Canadians.

          • +2

            @rektrading: It's glorious to see no one gives a care about these anti-vax muppets, except to criticise them. Even the government couldn't care less, top form people (y)

        • My local MP cares about our local events. He's a really nice dude, and his office hours are very convenient.
          Sorry you have a bad one.

          Also, no, I dont expect the Melb premier to care about a NSW event much. Nor do I expect Scomo to care about a state level event.

          Neither of them will be the local MP for this event.

          Man go Canada, thats fantastic to hear. 'Ignore the ignorant' should be a slogan.

          • +1

            @MasterScythe: There was hundreds of thousands of people protesting in Canada, guess they are all idiots then.

            Forcing an injection that has NO long term safety data is wrong.

            If there is risk there MUST be choice. Not this half assed you have choice, but you loose your job and integration with society, what a cop out.

            • @m0tyrider: Hundreds of thousands? Source?

              I can't speak for Canada, but here in Australia, thats up to your employer, and the latter, your social circle.
              My partner works in health care, one of the most heavily urged areas to vaccinate, and those who didn't get a vaccination were simply moved to telehealth. They never had their job threatened (the offer was emailed to all staff).
              If people did, thats up to their employer.
              In literally any other scenario, people would be equally outraged by having the government do the opposite, and control their private enterprise hiring and firing.

              As for your comments on society, well thats personal.
              Society to me, implies community.
              If you choose to be an outcast in your community, you can't expect equal treatment, and you're always free to leave it. Most of my objection toward anti-vax, and in fact, any so called 'non-conformist' mindsets (beyond the denial of data), is that it's a take-take mentality.
              People want 'choice' but hypocritically want to deny, for example, doctors that same 'choice' on weather or not to treat them.
              The idea that people can discard parts of society they don't like, and then still benefit thanks to the majority who didn't shun the burden is shameful.

              Everyones views differ, and yours will always be valid to you, which is fine; but that's why I personally don't feel the same way.

              • +1

                @MasterScythe: All the truckers protesting in Canada - basically halted the economy for weeks - it was all over reddit and other socials, will try and find some info.

                It sounds like your experience has been very positive which will shape your viewpoint - I too had a similar mindset to you, but when it goes wrong and nobody raises an eyebrow, my view changed.

                I was pro vax, but the injuries are real. While it may all appear anecdotal, there is some validity there.

                Appreciate the open discussion back and forth though.

                • @m0tyrider: By your own words you are showing that you hold an emotionally based opinion and not a factual one.

                  Emotionally driven opinions are for yourself and are not for sharing with others as truth. I had a bad reaction to the flu shot a few years ago, haven't had one since. But I'm not going to tell everyone that I strongly refuse to take the jab because it causes you to get really sick. If I'm required to have a flu shot to work because maybe I work in an environment with vulnerable demographics, I'm probably going to get it. Don't expect exceptions to cater for an emotionally based truth.

                  • @Juice-Wa: Not sure how my actual experience cannot be counted as fact. I DID have a reaction, I still DO have issues.

                    Would you rather me be quiet, keep it to myself and let others not know? I thought about this for a while, and I believe i should be sharing my experience with anybody who wants to listen. Then you can make up your own decision. I can't keep quiet about it, its fact. These things happen and people should be aware of what can happen and how you are treated by medical professionals when it does. There is basically no support, no care and you are expected to go line up for it AGAIN.

                    I know of people who have had jab injuries, but nobody with long lasting covid issues. Not disputing they don't happen, it just seems the jab injuries are much more prominent.

                    Not sure why you would have another shot if you reacted badly to it? Guess it wasn't 'that bad' if you are willing to go for round two. I most definitely am not.

                    Freedom of information is important, let people make up their own minds. I am sure there are some positives to getting vaccinated. I just don't think the risks are worth the rewards based on my individual experience.

                    You do you and I will do me. Thats where the major issues stem.

                    Mandate a product that has a 0% chance of any side effects. Let alone one that DOES cause heart inflammation. Guess it just sucks if you are one of those 'rare' people who get it.

                • @m0tyrider:

                  All the truckers protesting in Canada - basically halted the economy for weeks - it was all over reddit and other socials, will try and find some info.

                  Cool keen to see what I missed.
                  I can find references to thousands, and even some (seemingly) more extreme sources that claim tens of thousands; but not one hundred thousand, let alone hundreds of thousands.

  • -2

    What do they mean in this article about the benefits not outweighing the risks? What risks are they referring to?

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/sweden-decides-against-…

    • +2

      A rare few are allergic to vaccine ingredients.

      And a very miniscule amount of patients suffered pericarditis. Less than the number of kids who suffer it if infected, but still, honest science requires even tiny risks be recorded.

      • +11

        That doesn’t answer my question. You said the risk of the vax in kids is very minuscule which I’d tend to agree with but does that mean the risk of covid in kids is even more minuscule? why would they advise against it? How can the science be different?

        • +1

          I believe it means that the specific health needs and circumstances of their populations are different. If they were against the vaccine altogether then they wouldn't be recommending that children in special groups who are extra vulnerable to upper respiratory tract infections are vaccinated against Covid-19.

          https://www.krisinformation.se/en/hazards-and-risks/disaster…

          • +11

            @cv02: Of course they wouldn’t be against vaccination altogether, the vaccine has no doubt saved lives of those vulnerable. Seems very rational to be selective in their recommendation to vax high risk kids, a responsible application based on the risks and benefits based on the current data. But… incentivising the indiscriminate vaccination of young children, the vast majority of which covid poses negligible threat? That just seems very irresponsible

        • +2

          No, the evidence suggests the opposite; but not all governments choose to read it as such.

          Its not that the science is different, its that governments and medical bodies choose to focus on specific issues over others.

          Lots of countries choose to care about 'long covid', and many dont.

          So, while some governments might take the risk of vaccine related inflammation as the note worthy statistic, others might accept that its an extremely treatable and temporary risk, where as covid has some kids suffering long covid still from initial infection.

          Personally, I'd have swung the other way, and taken the 'known risk' which is treatable, over the 'unknown risk' even if it were lower.

          As for Sweden?
          You'll have to contact the swedish medical board for clarification, I cant speak for their decision.

          • @MasterScythe: You are wrong if you think the 'known risks' of the vaccine are 'treatable' - 6 months out from one pfizer jab and still not myself.

            Nobody cares if you had a reaction. You get treated like an outcast.

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