Needed a router asap and this fit the bill. Credit to HFB and comments for the info. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/713337
Sadly I missed the $89 post 🙃
ASUS TUF-AX3000 Wi-Fi 6 Router $229 + Delivery ($0 QLD/NSW C&C) @ Umart
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ASUS is a better brand and would have more features, but performance should be pretty similar anyway.
User experience really, and built quality.
Built quality is always important
Love me some built quality
it's build quality
I think it comes down to the quality of the chipset and processor used in the router. The TP-Link you've linked uses Qualcomm and dual-core, where as the ASUS uses Broadcom and tri-core (broadcom is generally considered the best). They have the same amount of ram.
Also ASUS firmware feature set will be better generally, but I don't know about this specific router. (running a RT-68U for like nine years now).
Personally I'd wait for the RT-86S coming to a good price before I upgrade, and just hope it lives up to the 68U in terms of useful lifespan.
How are you finding your router.
I bought the one up from that, the TP-Link Archer X73 AX5400 for $208/— plus $12 delivery from Goodguys Commercial. Still waiting on delivery, hopefully should get it before the end of the week.
Edit- Cool username I have fantasised about naming my WiFi network that.
Got archer ac73 second hand very mint condition for $150 ebay months ago.
Not noticing anything different but maybe just me.
(Previously using cheapo Modem router from Belong nbn provider)Not familiar with the AC73, I got the AX73, this one
https://www.thegoodguys.com.au/tp-link-ax5400-dual-band-giga…
@CyberMurning: No worries, I am hoping it will improve the WiFi at our house. Currently using a 6yr old Netgear.
@camelthief: Yeah in hindsight i would rather get modem router in one, so i dont have 2 devices taking up space.
Whats the advantages of having separate modem and router ? Genuine question im noob in networking
@CyberMurning: If one part fails you only replace that. If you want to upgrade the router to get faster WiFi but you're happy with the modem.
More importantly you can position the WiFi router away from the modem in a place that is more ideal for WiFi. Say if your NBN connection comes in downstairs or at one end of the house and you want WiFi ideally central and up high, so you put the WiFi router in the middle of the house on top of a bookshelf.
Also if you want to segment or firewall your home network in a certain way if you're a bit more nerdy.
@rygle: Oh i see… so like wifi 6/n/bg/ac things like that, its depending on the router part? So if one day we have more advance wifi 9 for example, the modem can be the same and i can upgrade the router.
Re. Location yeah if small house probably modem router still more suitable. This thing isnt small (2 of them)
@CyberMurning: Yes. WiFi 6 only provided a boost to 5GHz spectrum (which went to 802.11ax) but left 2.4GHz on the older 802.11ac. WiFi 6E is coming out soon and that provides similar boosts to the 2.4GHz spectrum including better QAM multiplexing and various other improvements on MIMO, OFDMA, etc, but will also use the 6GHz spectrum (most of the world has approved a massive new chunk of this spectrum but Australia has currently only approved about half the new spectrum)
But don't underestimate the importance of router placement for your WiFi speed either. That can make a huge difference. Central and up high is the general wisdom if you have one router.
@rygle: https://www.arubanetworks.com/faq/what-is-wi-fi-6e/
https://cybershack.com.au/consumer-advice/wi-fi-6e-ax-6ghz-n…
https://www.pcmag.com/news/what-is-wi-fi-6e
And yes, there will be WiFi 9 soon enough…
@rygle: Sorry, it was 802.11ac that didn't do much for the 2.4GHz spectrum leaving it in 802.11n speeds, but 802.11ax fixed some of that.
Other improvements of newer tech include better spatial streaming (signals split over more antennas, related to mimo), and beam forming, which aims transmissions toward your receiving device using clever physics.
I thought I saw this at umart for ~$214 just a couple days ago
I would like to set up security camera in my house to monitor inside while I'm away and need secure way to connect that won't be hacked via my phone. Is a router nbn like this suitable or do I need to splurge on some kind of special hardware firewall device. Any advice appreciated.
Easiest (and most secure) way is to just use a vpn and access the cameras like you're on a local network. You could run a vpn on a router, nasbox, or even a raspberry pie.
Look into PoE (Power over Ethernet) routers. Your IP camera gets power sent through one ethernet cable.
I do this actually to access my blue iris. Asus software it the router actually used OpenVPN and exports a config for you to use on your phone. Install OpenVPN and then import setting from router and you can view the cameras via local IP as if you were at home.
OpenVPN is good and the Asus implementation on the router seems good, but OpenVPN a bit slow and kludgy compared to something like Tailscale or Zerotier, both of which are based on faster VPN underpinnings. I know Tailscale uses wireguard but I think zerotier wrote their own VPN core. Both free for personal use and multi-platform including Android and iOS clients. Check them out if you're wanting something a bit more robust, but might be a but technical for some.
I've always seen these floating around and was never too sure what their main function is. Is it simply to provide better wifi connection if my wifi is connected on the other side of the house?
Better wifi (including faster protocols that aren't standard on isp routers), better features if you need them (eg vpn support, mesh functionality, etc)
Will it stream 4k better on FTTP?
Not unless you're having issues with the wifi already
@serpserpserp: Depends what sorts of issues you're having, and also what you're comparing it with. They do indeed have higher speeds on transfer, as well as some desirable features as well as shorter range and being more vulnerable to walls.
There's really an awful lot of "it depends" here, and it depends what's actually giving you poor performance. For insurance, a 4k netflix steam only needs 15 Mbps for example, while even wifi 4 can do up to 600 Mbps (although real world will often be much lower). If the connection is saturated, or through many walls, or on the other side of the house it may be worse.
if you like to get under the hood and do a lot with the device Asus have a reputation for a good UI ( they are a pleasure to use and offer a lot of fun toys). For 'normal" household usage, (or not under the hood just , "does it work better") might give some minor speed increases in certain use cases. This being a recent model has the new wifi protocol, but that's only a benefit if you are using devices that support it.
I thought i bought this 10 months ago gor $200?
Pretty obvious at this point this isn’t a notable deal, just a low quality post of something slightly lower price than rrp which it’s easily found at anyway.
I agree with you here, it has been cheaper previously and likely will be again, but if you need it asap, not a bad deal!
Most likely just customer return change of mind. If i need i will buy it without blink
Just bought this this week - hard pressed to find a high quality wifi 6 model for similar or less.
How's the range?
I've been looking at the gl.inet gl-ax1800, which seem to be $139 standard price.
Would there be much difference between the gl.inet and a more expensive ASUS model? I was thinking if I go an ASUS model I'd get one with Asus-wrt Merlin support.
I just upgraded from a 6yr old asus to that GL.inet model. So far so good.
It's missing the trend micro stuff though I'm not sure how important that is
Does anyone know of other (slightly cheaper) Asus routers that have 3G/4G LTE dongle / phone internet tethering via USB?
Consider the GL.inet ax-1800 perhaps?
I'd never heard of GL.inet before. I'm impressed with the inbuilt adblocker. Thanks for the suggestion. I can't seem to find where it specifically says the USB can be used as 4g/LTE?
No worries. I've been using their travel routers for a couple of years before covid but just upgraded my home router to the ax-1800 last week
As my 6.5yr old ASUS was on its last legs
I'm sure it can be. I have used multiple 4g routers via USB on my gl.inet travel router.
It can. I actually tested it with a 4g dongle as soon as I got it.
The same one I use with my gl.inet Mango router
@daft009: Thanks for confirming. I assume itmwould be no different using a mobile to tether via USB?
@Lizard Spock: Very similar but your modem/router needs to support it. The GL.inet ones mostly all do as far as I know. They have a pretty good reputation on oz bargain.
is this an upgrade from the stock ugly voda nbn modem? Would it extend range at all?
Absolutely!
Yeah this thing is good.
It's not a modem, so to use it you would keep the ugly unit and connect it to this one so it can do the routing for it. If you o that it will give you some power/speed/range over a cheaper unit.
I think so, but it's used.
Most likely just customer return change of mind. If i need i will buy it without blink
@Capitano
Which deal did you miss for $89?This one
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/672702The old not realising you need something until it's been ozbargained.
I purchased one in a hurry from Amazon 2 weeks ago for $218. Been a pretty strong unit so far. Noticing much improved range on wifi 6 devices compared to old Netgear D7000 which died.
Thanks OP. Should be a nice upgrade from the ISP provided Netcomm cloudmesh gateway
I want a Wi-Fi 6 mesh solution, would 3 of these be good or am I better with a solution advertised as a Wi-Fi 6 mesh router kit? Thanks
Personally I'd go specific 3 pack mesh models.
I've had mixed experiences with Asus AI Mesh however its definitely better as it goes on.
Slightly off topic but moving to an apartment next week which has FTTB, guessing will need a modem router combo. Can anyone recommend one?
You will probably have a box in your unit with an Ethernet lead coming out that could plug straight into a router, no modem required.
Nah, FTTB ends in a DSL connection so a modem (or combo modem/router) will be required unfortunately.
OK, was thinking it was like FTTP
You’re probably right, have heard the same.
What benefits do you get from using an expensive router vs the free one that comes with nbn?
I learned recently that grey mobile phones have limitations as they are not suitable for full oz access. does this apply to routers from overseas?
Should be fine - Wi-Fi uses standard frequencies, whereas mobile phone frequencies differ country to country.
do they have non australian plugs for power connections?
thank you.It'll depend where you buy it from - this router will given Umart is a local store, but otherwise it's a case-by-case basis. Adapters aren't hard to find, though.
how do i know if i can get rid of my modem ?
i live in an old jointLogged on and all I saw was "ASUS TUF" and "$299" … my eyes kinda conveniently skipped the middle part then my brain was like "OMG … GPU crash is here"
Then settled down and came back to reality .. hahaha
I found a ASUS TUF Gaming AX5400 Dual Band WiFi 6 Router on Amazon shipping from UK for $238.48. Is that a good product/price?
Noob question…
If my NBN speed is only 100Mbps is there any point getting a router that delivers "up to 3200Mbps"?
If the max theoretical input speed is 100Mbps how can any router deliver more than 100Mbps?How should one be thinking about this?
For copying things between devices on your network (for example server box to TV or PC), the majority of people would not care.
Bought this recently link. Is there any real world noticeable difference? Or is the tuf one unnecessarily $70 more for it’s gamer branding.