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As mentioned previously I have another batch of the Z640s available. This time they have 32Gb Ram
HP Z640 Tower
Intel Xeon E5-1650 v3 3.50Ghz 6C/12T
32Gb DDR4 ECC Ram
240Gb SSD
Quadro M6000 12Gb
Win 10 Pro
All units also have the HP 4 Bay 2.5" STORAGE DRIVE CAGE installed too
PLRE20 is 20% off for non Plus members. PLRE22 is 22% off for Plus members. Use only one depending on your circumstances.
Pretty sure one is for eBay plus members and the other is non members.
PLRE20 - Non members, 20% discount
PLRE22 - Members, 22% discount
Would make a cheap gaming PC for the kids. Looks like Quadro M6000 is roughly equivalent to GTX1660?
For a server which is better, this or a new Celeron box sipping 10W?
For a home server, go with something lighter on power. I'd only get this for home if I had huge cpu workloads to constantly grind through.
Power bills would be a killer for server use.
In my case I opted to go with three HP Z620 workstations for noise and power control… I think my idle consumption on the whole lab is around 500 watts… (That includes the 3 workstations + a Cisco 3750X-24 ports with a single PSU).
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/dk70oe/home_lab_po…
I can't run 3.5" in it though right? Can't see room.
What?! It has 2 x 5.25" bays, so how would 3.5 be a problem?
FYI - People who brought during the last deal have posted thier feedback here https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/12885339/redir
I bought from these guys about a year ago to run a home server, had no issues.
Yep. Feedback on eBay is also good. And rep has been great when I've been PMing them asking for updates when this would be back in stock.
Would this work for a plex server?
yes but old GPU doesn't do H.265 encoding. H.264 is good enough for network streaming though.
Well and truly overkill, but it'd work.
You'd be better off getting a SFF device like the HP or Dell's that are half the price, and draw significantly less power.
Massive overkill, also a powerhog.
Better off getting a micro optiplex which would draw like 10W on idle and maybe 30W on max load.
I bought one of these to use as Plex server and its been great. Ubuntu and Plex installed on "bare-metal". Handles multiple 4k to 1080p transcodes, even with HDR to SDR tone-mapping.
Lower clock speeds and cores than my previous i7 4770K but that couldn't do a single 4k to 1080p transcode. Intel QuickSync (from 6th gen onwards) is what you want.
Edit: this "server" also hosts docker for servarr containers
What do you do for storage? Do you keep external hard drives plugged in?
An old HP ProLiant MicroServer N36L. Running openmediavault off a USB thumb drive, with 5 sata hdds.
@tonyamazing: I thought you would need to have the plex server and hdds with data in the same pc.
So you get the files from the hp acting as nas, and the Acer as plex server to serve other devices, right?
Any issues or lags by doing that?
I was thinking to get one pc gen 7 with at least 4 3.5 bays, but maybe your solution is better
@edforums: Yes, HP is NAS and Acer is Plex Server (and download server etc). No noticable lag. Actually had more lag when they were in the same box on a Windows machine. Something about Windows kept the disks in a deeper sleep state so when I started watching something on a cold disk it would take a few seconds to spin up.
My highest bitrate movie is 64.4 Mbps, lower than oldschool "fast" ethernet at 100 Mbps. They're all gigabit devices on a gigabit LAN.
I was looking for the same thing but buying new was too expensive and couldn't really find anything on 2nd hand market. I already had the N36L from a decade ago, and the Acer came in cheap at $175 or something (with eBay Plus coupons). I switched out the 8gb ram for a single 16gb stick, but I'm not sure it's necessary
is it good for 2D cad drawing and some 3D SketchUp work?
Massive, massive overkill.
Quadro M6000 was a $5000 workstation graphics card https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC_sx6A5Wko
That price was for the 24GB ver.
Thanks, we have a few PCs in the office, with 1070 and 1080ti, they are doing ok for their jobs.
For only $360, Is it worth getting this just for CAD/ model building, I think Quadro cards are better tuned for CAD/ 3d max applications.
Yes Quadro cards are certified for CAD stuff. That means no crashing or driver issues. THis card also has ECC vram for extra stability if needed.
For $360 its a no brainer, for CAD and for gaming.
I wish I had gotten this instead - only $15 more for extra 16GB RAM.
@Calmago any chance you guys are selling extra RAM?
Sorry mate, we don't have the ram spare.
ECC ram is usually pretty cheap 2nd hand off facebook marketplace/gumtree as companies part out old servers. Just check for any comparability weirdness first.
identical 16GB is $40 used on eBay :/
Yeah ebay has the fees/costs of buyer protection added. Facebook/gumtree has less security/the hastle of traveling to pickup, but damn cheap ECC occasionally. Guys occasionally pop up selling a few hundred GB worth out of an old server their work just decommissioned.
Can any of the owners please comment on how much of a 'power hog' it is? People keep commenting about it…
I vaguely remember my 4770k pulling nearly 100w idle with a tdp of 84w. This has a tdp of 130w so I suspect it'll draw over 100w at idle, i guess depending on how many drives and components you have installed.
This CPU draws about 25-50w at idle and GPU draws about 65-70w at idle (as per MSI afterburner)
Under full load (near 100% cpu and gpu) it draws about 700w from outlet.
I am too looking to upgrade from my HP Gen8 micro server for home use. I see the comments above which suggest using Dell Optiplex. However, I couldn't find any information on how to install 3 or 4 3.5 HDDs plus an SSD in Optiplex machines. Is someone able to point me in the right direction please.
Would you consider using both? Keeping the Gen8 as a NAS.
I've kept my N36L as a nas, running openmediavault off a USB thumb drive, with 5 sata hdds (hoping to squeeze in one more).
Thanks for the suggestion. Not sure having two what will I achieve.
The Gen8 has Xeon 1265L E2, 16GB ram and SSD. I have Windows 10 Pro. It sometimes struggles with 4K files using Plex. Having said that I was surprised by the prices these servers fetch. I could sell the Gen8 and in less than $200 would have a Synology DS920+. So, that could be an option too.
I have two. Like you say, it was hard to find something that could accommodate many 3.5 inch drives and could handle Plex transcoding.
You can only install 2x 2.5" or 1x 3.5" HDD in an SFF OptiPlex. Mind you the system will only have the right bracket installed if it was spec'd like that from factory. Some of the later model also have m.2 slot (7040s did from memory).
Thank you. I have need to move at least 3 x 3.5" HDD. So, SFF Optiplexes are out of reckoning then.
Actually looking to get the Quadro by itself for work. Any chance in buying it by itself OP?
No sorry mate, TBH the Quadro is worth as much as the machine is.
Yeah fair enough, thanks for the prompt response!
I just bought a second for the gfx card and extra memory
Good point, the extra bits and pieces are of good value too..
I'll sell you mine if you'd like.
I was going to send you a PM but you’re not accepting PMs, how much are you looking to sell it for?
Just realised it isn't the same as the one listed on the machine, my mistake :(
I can't see the graphic card from the rear photo.
I'm pretty sure that's just a standard photo, I grabbed one from the last batch and they definitely have a Quadro M6000.
It's just a stock photo. Same as the front doesn't have the 4 bay drive cage.
Good machine for MS Flight Sim?
Yeah can confirm. I get 40+ fps on High+ with MSAA 8x and 60fps locked by v-sync at Auto Max fidelity which sets most settings to medium.
I've just ordered a second machine. Does SLI work in flight sim?
cannot confirm SLI as I only have one GPU.
forgot to mention this was at 1080p
Ordered one, can’t go wrong with it for the price.
Bought fro the last batch and I still don't have mine yet (stuck in postage somewhere). Sux even harder that I could have had 32GB for not much more. :(
Yeah I got mine last week and quite pleased with the performance but wish I could have gotten dual channel memory for not a lot more instead.
Watch out for power usage. The specs say typical power usage 600W. That could be over a $1200 power bill per year
I measured about 700w at outlet at near full load so it wont be 600 w at normal usage load.
What is it at idle?
from memory it draws about 150w-200w during normal web browsing, media playback load.
@OldSchoolHarry: If this was used by gamers, I could see their power bill rack up hundreds of dollars per year.
@Viper8: CPU plus GPU at idle is just under 100w. Right now for me, CPU is at 20w and GPU is at 65w.
@OldSchoolHarry: My older gaming PC is measuring 62W at the wall (5 fans currently spinning, RGB lighting, standalone GPU) using a physical power meter.
This is a typical power usage for both older and modern PC's according to review websites and forums.
@OldSchoolHarry: That's huge for that usage, my Thinkcentre tiny is 4c/4t 16GB DDR3, 8th gen, uses 7w under small usage.
@Jimbuscus: we use tiny lenovo's at work and I love them.. for a general web browsing, email, excel work and youtube watching experience like probably 90% of desktops are used for it's fantastic and low power (fits into the back of the monitor so it's hidden and out of the way). So tempted to buy one for home use as my 4K video editing workstation is total overkill for doing those light duties.
@gizmomelb: Mine has a 4th gen CPU that is 9yrs old and even the integrated graphics are decent enough for light gaming/emulation today.
I have better dGPU's but the Lenovo is more convenient while in the lounge room.
OK I've just checked mine on the kill a watt.
Its only 60W at win10 desktop idle.
Thats pretty damn good actually, considering the beast GPU in it.
That's a lot of money to run this machine.
Is this from running the PC 24/7?
Let's say you run this PC for 2 hours everyday, would that mean roughly $100 per year in power?
Yeah, 24/7. I've found cost per year is double the wattage for electricity at 20c. As others have said the power is much lower than the spec sheets "typical usage". I'm guessing that means data centre usage.
8years ago,
Other names: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1650 v3 @ 3.50GHz, Intel Xeon CPU E5-1650 v3 @ 3.50GHz
CPU First Seen on Charts: Q4 2014
It also supports the V4 CPUs if thats what you're into. Also can add a 2nd CPU via a daughter card which is kindof neat.
Can you advise how you add 2nd CPU? Thanks
So I plug the daughter card into the mother board? Sounds very incestuous
Do I need to wipe my disk afterwards just to be safe?
Username checks out based on your comment.
yes they connect using the special Incel (sorry, Intel) scissor connector.
Thanks OP. Just bought one.
Didn't necessarily need it but it's the Ozbargain way, thanks OP
Maybe a dumb question, I dont see any DVI or HDMI ports?
there are 4x DP 1.2 ports and 1x DVI-I port
I think that's just a placeholder image without GPU, the m6000 should have DVI and DP outputs. Could be worth double checking with vendor though in case it's a weird oem card.
I imagine many might be running this headless anyway.
Hmmm… things I wasn't thinking about buying today but now curious about.
Actually quite impressed at how cheap some of this stuff is now.
Damn the power consumption on these are terrible. Unless you don't pay for electricity you're better off buying something slightly newer even if it doesn't come with ecc memory or workstation certified drivers (latter not as important).
Well, it's kinda hard to find something with similar performance in this price range.
But yes, the electricity bill of these things will easily close the gap between the devices. But hey, if you have solar panels, or if you play games/Cad once a while, then it's a good choice.
I've read of some people having success installing the "E5 4xxx V4" Xeons which are meant to be for quad CPU systems which means there's a lot more choice for CPU upgrades/sidegrades available than just those listed on the HP website.
The idea of a Xeon E5-2650L v4, 65w TDP with 14 cores and 28 threads for $100 (albeit it with a lower clock speed) would make a great docker machine.
The idea of a Xeon E5-2650L v4
But that CPU is already supported
140W CPU & 250W GPU, specs are great for the price, but you will eventually pay the difference in your energy bill.
I would also expect it to be a little bit noisy. If you are looking to build a media server you are also better served finding a case that can fit shucked 3.5' HDD's.
Does the motherboard have ILO support?
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Do we have to use both the codes?