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Tesla Model Y from $70,700 Delivered + On Road Costs @ Tesla

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Hi All,

Just came back from Tesla in Chadstone. The Model Y has a $3000+. price drop. Just started today at lunch time.
Went for a test driver and when I came back, the sales guy said he just received an email confirming a price drop on the Model Y.
Being a true OZBARGAIN guy, I bought one. Took all of 5 mins to order. 2 - 4 month deliver time.
If anyone thinking of getting one, now is a good time before they have massive back orders I guess.

State Driveaway price
VIC $74666
NSW $71757
ACT $71337
NT $73570
QLD $72856
SA $74360
TAS $71303
WA $76337

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                  • @sockpuppy:

                    Nothing a giant team of engineers, electricians and project managers couldn't deliver with a boat load of money and a couple of decades.

                    There is nothing they can do when the politicians have made nuclear power illegal.

                    And so coal it is.

                      • @Igaf:

                        Why doesn’t nuclear power make sense for Australia?
                        1. Nuclear power stations can’t be built anywhere in Australia. They are banned in every state, and in every territory.

                        My exact point lol

                        • @trapper: You weren't implying anything? Coal and gas have places during the transition but both are already far more expensive than alternative, as is nuclear fission power.

                          • @Igaf: There is no 'transition' without nuclear power, that is my point.

                            So it's dirty old coal for the foreseeable future.

                            No amount of engineers, electricians and project managers can change that - only our politicians can.

                            • @trapper: We're already in transition, largely thanks to private enterprise and state governments. Nuclear won't be part of that for all the reasons discussed for the last three decades. There are plenty of options for suburban solar and community batteries etc, and models which show a mix of 80-90% renewables backed by gas (/oil) - already in place in SA to a large extent - is viable without massive additional costs. These all require grid upgrades and investment. We have a Future Fund for such things and it's way past time that Australians told politicians to use it to underpin our energy future. It dabbles, but its main objective is to maintain the fund (thankfully, the growth requirement has recently been relaxed) - akin to the quartermaster who won't let the last mission critical item out of the store because then he wouldn't have one in stock. That's the sort of timid and nonsensical mentality we have in federal government politics in this country.

                              • @Igaf: It's a pure fantasy that we can stop using fossil fuels without utilising nuclear power. It's not happening and it won't happen. That is the reality.

                                Look at this graph of our power generation over the last week: https://opennem.org.au/energy/au/?range=1d&interval=30m

                                If we want to phase out coal, then we should be planning and building at least 10GW of nuclear generation right now.

                                Even with that we will still be burning a lot of coal during the night.

                                • @trapper:

                                  It's a pure fantasy that we can stop using fossil fuels without utilising nuclear power. It's not happening and it won't happen. That is the reality.

                                  Want to bet? No need to take my word for it, just do better research.

                              • @Igaf:

                                already in place in SA to a large extent

                                SA is completely dependent on importing electricity from the rest of the country.

                                Even only yesterday night was importing more than half its electricity, another third provided by gas and only 12% renewable.

                                https://opennem.org.au/energy/sa1/?range=3d&interval=30m

                                • @trapper: This set by market conditions, SA can run completely independent (as shown earlier this year SA was separated from VIC except for small HVDC connection). In day time SA can export as most of the power is generated cheaply by renewables. At night time SA it's not worth gas gens to spin up at night time as pricing isn't worth it. This is oversimplification but gives basic idea. You can't really look at one state in isolation when connected to the NEM.

                                  • @reubenb87:

                                    This set by market conditions

                                    Ok so SA turned its wind generation right down to 12% on purpose??

                                    Nope, that's not what happened, the wind wasn't blowing.

                                • @trapper: Not by a long shot, as I see Ruben has mentioned. Why would you make such a comment without researching? This should help. There's plenty more.

                                  • @Igaf:

                                    Why would you make such a comment without researching.

                                    It's right there in the published statistics - only 12% renewable was in operation.

                                    Leaving 78% either imported or provided by fossil fuels.

                                    • @trapper: Lol. A tiny snapshot of anything is statistically representative in your world?

                                      https://www.energy.gov.au/data/states-and-territories

                                      Pointless arguing with you when your fixation blinds you to reality.

                                      • @Igaf: The power can't just switch off when the wind isn't blowing. You need to understand this.

                                        I only had to look one day back to see renewable generation dropping below 12%..

                                        • -1

                                          @trapper: Wow, I didn't know that. Can solar power be used at night? Is Hornsdale a white elephant? Whatever you do, don't play the stockmarket. You must be kept very busy adjusting your super mix.

      • +1

        we should all be taking breaks so as not end up like that poor family in WA.

        No the Amazon orders must flow.

      • +1

        Of course long range is still needed. The lower the range, the more stops. Nightmare with kids.

        • +2

          I personally find it difficult doing more than a 2.5hr stretch of driving at any one time. Surely I'm not the only one??

          • @ankor: Not the only one. Gotta take breaks.

          • @ankor: Not really suppose to drive for more than that non stop. You can go all macho and say i can drive way more than that. But realistically you are putting yourself in danger of falling asleep at the wheel as your concentration slips the longer you drive.

      • +1

        My son tested driving the Model Y standard in Melbourne.
        He rent a Model Y "Long Range" in the USA last month.
        My wife and him like the "Long Range" much better.
        More power, longer range, less chance of required to carry snow chain and is cheaper than the Model Y Performance.

        • +2

          No long range in snow. Koreans they sue…

      • +1

        Try travelling to even semi-remote areas
        Try to travelling to semi-semi-remote areas in cold weather

      • +1

        Need to think about demand and supply - in the US some charging stations have queues for hours already. Imagine how that will go with more EVs on the road.
        I recommend EVs for people who don't do toad trips and PHEVs for people who do… just until the infrastructure catches up

      • +1

        Can confirm I am a SR+ Owner and just did Adelaide to Gold Coast and never had any charging issues, longest stop was 22 minutes

      • I'd rather stop when we need a break, not every time the battery needs a charge

    • +12

      Just buy six of them and leave them at strategic locations around your state so you can swap cars.

      • +6

        and once you swap from a empty one to a full one what happens to the empty one - maybe we are just talking about use once and forget >_<

    • +4

      just bring your spare eneloops

    • My speculation is about a year after the initial model y release, which mirrors the long range variant releases of other models and in some other countries.

    • I have the LR version of the Model 3 and its fantastic

  • +98

    Their cars are finally copying their stock price.

    • +39

      Nah, needs another 20k discount

    • +8

      90% off soon then

    • +3

      Tesla shares ended 2022 down 65% for the year….so we're still way off😂.

      • +15

        But I'd rather have anyone else's morals

          • +4

            @Almost Banned: You come across like a Andrew Tate fan.

            • -8

              @Wizard: What's wrong with Andrew Tate?

              • +3

                @[Deactivated]: He is a scam artist sucking in desperate people.

                • +2

                  @Wizard: what scam did he do?

            • @Wizard: I'd never even heard of the guy until the Thunberg tweet blew up.

      • But then you'd have to be taking nootropics. And call your kids funny names…

      • -5

        You know that people's brains are broken when 18 mouth-breathers downvote a comment saying I'd rather be worth more than US$100 billion than live in my mother's basement.

        • +1

          It's not that the statement is wrong. It's that in context the statement is an obnoxious non sequitur.

          • @jacross: ok - but the comment I was referring to was itself a non-sequitur - so I don't think that explains it.

            • +1

              @Almost Banned: Fair. I think people just found yours more obnoxious being something of a barb against a person. I didn't downvote you personally as I thought it was all quite minor.

        • Looking at your deal history, you seem to be struggling financially. Maybe sign up to your friend Andrew tate and he could help you. You are his target demographic.

          • @Wizard: Looking at MY deal history?
            Buddy, you've been a member for 10 years and have a total of 16 posts. Way to contribute from your mum's basement.

    • +6

      Let that sink in

  • +16

    Buy 20, get 1 free!

    What a bargain!

    • +1

      That further summarized into a free Tesla!

    • +5

      Gotta organise a group buy soon

      • +2

        Good idea, keep the free one for your efforts ;)

  • Check out the $26k jump to the performance model!
    Oh and delivery somewhere from Feb to May 23.

    • +39

      For an SUV which does 0-100 in 3.5 seconds. If you are looking for such a car, its actually a performance bargain and with none of the downsides that you associate with the so called premium european brands.

      • +3

        Yes including reliability

      • +8

        No of those downsides no. But a whole heap of other fit, finish and reliability issues all their own if you believe what you read.

        Also a complete tool of a CEO.

        • +41

          Why do you care about who the CEO is? It's just a car. Do you care if Toyota or Hyundai's CEO is a nice person?

          • +67

            @minijumbuk: Because he doesn't want to support someone whose views and behaviour he disagrees with. Exact same reason I don't shop at Harvey Norman.

            • @jjcf: Doesnt matter,, all we want is prices keep coming down

            • +4

              @jjcf: I am curious to know precisely which views and behaviour you are talking about.

            • +15

              @jjcf: But how do you know the thoughts of every companies CEO that you buy products from?

              CEO’s from thousands of companies could have absolute horrid views on things i.e slave labour, do not recognise or agree with the rights of minorities, provide their employees absolutely shocking working conditions.

              Musk’s views just come to light because he’s so vocal about them.

              • +21

                @ElectrkJonesy777: Why would I need to? I know Gerry is a flog, I don't buy from him. Whether someone else is also a flog is irrelevant to that decision.

                The implication that unless you research every single purchase, you shouldn't research any purchase is asinine. It's just recycling the old 'you cant be a vegetarian because you wear shoes lol' argument.

                • +17

                  @jjcf: Oh you're a vegetarian? Prove it. Name every vegetable.

              • +4

                @ElectrkJonesy777: Don’t need to know the thoughts of every CEO but doesn’t mean people should disregard them when they do know.

                Anyone can spend their own money wherever they choose to for whatever reason works for them.

                Right now Tesla is no longer an option for me and it’s largely due to (but not only) Musk.

            • +3

              @jjcf: A lot of assumption in this comment.

            • +2

              @jjcf: In fairness, I don't shop at Harvey Norman because of their dodgy customer service and high prices, in addition to the behaviour of the franchiser.

          • +25

            @minijumbuk: Musk has become a total loose cannon. I'm not spending $70K+ on a device that may be rendered obsolete/unsupported/defunct at the sudden whim of a narcissistic man-child.

            I almost bought a Tesla last year but held off because of stock delays. So glad I did now that I've looked into them fully. Major reliability issues, loads of build quality inconsistencies etc. And much better competition on the horizon.

            • -1

              @ayoole: It's fine to change your mind, but Musk hasn't fundamentally changed in the last year. He continues to juggle multiple brands including Space X, Neuralink, the AI one, Tesla and yes Twitter.

              • +1

                @buffalo bill: Yes, but he HAS changed notably in terms of political orientation, echoed in his public behaviour and tweets. He's always been a bit of a shit-stirrer, but some of it lately has taken on a more sinister edge, with some evidence of belief in conspiracy theories etc.

                And this past year he's lost more personal wealth than any human in history, around $200 billion (on paper) to date. He thrives on adulation, and a lot of that has disappeared lately. Which would make anybody with a reactionary narcissistic personality like his become more unstable, I suspect.

                • -1

                  @ayoole: Perhaps your perception of him has changed, but he has not in terms of he was a democrat and is now a republican. He has always championed those who would advance his enterprises. Also, everyone who had assets has lost wealth on paper in the last 12 months & his losses cannot be compared to that of the average wage earner.

          • +12

            @minijumbuk:

            Why do you care about who the CEO is?

            Because for a car based on a software purchase model a CEO who constantly changes his mind and makes snap decisions can drastically change what features your car has and the experience of using the car.

          • +9

            @minijumbuk: In the case of Musk, he had to sell a lot of Tesla stock to raise the 44B for the Twitter buyout so if you buy Tesla you're possibly funding whatever bad financial decision that he'll make in the future.

            I don't buy from HN because he suggested a tax which made imports more expensive….even though his stores rely mostly on imported goods from the same sources from where we buy. He said something like he wanted to help Aus businesses be more competitive while knowing that big box stores like his will undercut any small business which sells similar goods.

            • +1

              @nGu: He also sells the stores their stock, so every item on display he has made his cut on, whether the franchisee discounts it into the red or not.

          • +9

            @minijumbuk: Because people buy into brands because of what they think it tells the world about them.

            I drive a Kia because it was a good cross section of price and features at the time - and I am happy with the brand on the rise view from 2013 (they were viewed as much cheaper cars before that).

            I'm not keen on MG or Haval for a new car based off that sort of perception - and I am directly in the target demo for Tesla (middle aged, affluent, environment conscious) - but the CEO absolutely has an impact on me.

            Brands matter - and he's shitting in his own pool.

            • -1

              @tallmantim: Small duck energy

            • @tallmantim: What about the other 100,000 people that work at Tesla? Musk isn’t building the cars himself. I don’t agree with his views on a lot of things, and his addiction to twitter is screwing up his life, but fundamentally nothing has changed with Tesla. The cars are fantastic and the company is well run and from what I’ve read a great place to work.

              • +6

                @t0by: Tesla a great place to work? Where did you read that? The reports of the terrible working conditions are endless, despite the NDAs.

                https://www.hotcars.com/things-tesla-employees-arent-allowed…

                • +1

                  @shaybisc: Wow. I initially didn't care who runs the company till I read the Hotcars article.

                  "… Work injuries must be hidden - seeing as the injury rate at Tesla factories is already off the charts, the powers that be stopped recording most workplace injuries on legally mandated logs to keep the injury rate down."

                  If even half the article is true it explains why there are Non Disclosure Agreements.

                  Its the same business principles as why I don't like big clothing brands. Manufacturing that requires low pay and dangerous work environments for their workers. If workers complain about safety hazards or unionise they get sacked.

                  • +1

                    @Mumbles: I don't really understand the nda thing. You cant nda illegal activity or gross negligence.

                    • @trentgibbo: Under his leadership, when Tesla has laid off employees, it’s asked them to sign separation agreements including a strong non-disparagement clause with no end-date. These kinds of agreements are not uncommon in the industry, but Musk is far from a free-speech absolutist here.

                      A copy of one such agreement from Tesla, shared with CNBC by a former employee laid off in 2018 (who did not sign the agreement) said:

                      “You agree not to disparage Tesla, the Company’s products, or the Company’s officers, directors, employees, shareholders and agents, affiliates and subsidiaries in any manner likely to be harmful to them or their business, business reputation or personal reputation.”

                      In the same document, Tesla required laid off employees to keep details about the separation agreement itself hidden, other than from their own lawyer, accountant or immediate family— not even other workers.

                      https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/25/elon-musk-and-free-speech-tr…

                      “The provisions of this Agreement will be held in strictest confidence by you and will not be publicized or disclosed in any manner whatsoever,” the agreement said. “In particular, and without limitation, you agree not to disclose the terms of this Agreement to any current or former Company employee or contractor.”

                      Like most large companies, Tesla also requires workers to sign an arbitration agreement upon employment. That means to speak freely in court, where their speech will become part of a public record, workers need to get an exemption from the arbitration agreement from a judge first.

          • @minijumbuk: Because the media told him that “tusk man bad”

        • Just because his politics doesn’t agree with yours doesn’t make him a tool.

          • +2

            @Cheap Rich Guy: His politics does agree with mine, but I still think he's a tool

            • +2

              @minijumbuk: What is that - because he has said that he was previously a socialist, and now appears to be conservative-minded while still claiming to be officially independent - a move that many people make as they age and accumulate assets.

              • +6

                @Almost Banned: Could your wrap your head around the fact that for some people it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the fact he is just an entitled a-hole? Treats people like a resource, calls a hero a pedo because he didnt like his dumb idea, fires people that disagree with him, etc, etc.

                • +2

                  @Trentgibbo3: I could - except:
                  1. Jumbuk explicitly said it was about politics, and
                  2. I don't see what he has done or said that is new. He called the diver a paedo four and a half years ago, apologised for it, and no-one hated on him for it then the way they seem to now. I doubt he treated people significantly differently in the last year or so to how he treated them while he was a global darling. So, I don't think that any of your examples are truly behind what is happening now.
                  In fact, it feels a lot more like people retroactively justifying their current hatred - basically just another retcon.

                  • +6

                    @Almost Banned:

                    I don't see what he has done or said that is new. He called the diver a paedo four and a half years ago,

                    He practically called one of his recent ex employees Yoel Roth a pedo also..
                    For a guy with billions, he sure seems to have a limited insult vocab

                    • +2

                      @SBOB: Well, I believe he said that Roth was much quicker to respond to government requests to shut down conservative twitter users than he was to shut down child porn on Twitter.
                      And the evidence suggests he is correct.

                  • @Almost Banned: Exactly!

                  • @Almost Banned: Jumbuk said 'why do you care who the ceo is' and then the first reply was around the fact they disagreed with his views and the way he acts.

                    You are right on point 2. He isn't treating people differently. He still treats them like crap it's just more out in the open now because 1. He's posting it all on twitter. And 2. His genius saviour allure is wearing off due to all his stuff ups.

              • @Almost Banned: Musk also said Marx was a capitalist, because he wrote Das Kapital. I doubt the genius has the faintest clue about political theory.

                • +1

                  @shaybisc: Again, this tweet was from mid-2018, when he was still calling himself a socialist and was still broadly a darling of the left.

        • He is neurodiverse, be a little more understanding. Maybe watch Good Doctor and you'll see how they can be a tool.

          At least he doesnt hide that he is a tool like many CEOs. Trust me, most of them are in private.

          • +12

            @Pentanol: Nah. I’ve seen no evidence that ‘most’ ceos are tools. I’ve seen plenty of evidence of normal people doing a stressful job. I’ve also seen some that are tools.

            When some appear to me to be awful, for example Harvey Norman, then I’ll choose to spend my money elsewhere.

            As a result of musk showing who he is on Twitter (had suspicions previously - ie pedo tweet) I absolutely won’t buy a Tesla. There’s plenty of choice coming so it’s simple to switch.

            • +7

              @mooney: Also. PLENTY of neurodiverse people have explicitly said it can make you appear awkward, but doesn’t excuse him adding Nazi’s back onto Twitter under a bullsh*t guise of ‘free speech’.

              So yeah. Happy to say he’s a tool.

              • @mooney: Biggest evidence of him being a tool is the whole Twitter dumpster fire.

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