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[Refurb] HP Proliant ML150 Gen9 Xeon E5-2620 v4 32GB DDR4 240GB SSD 2x1TB HDD Server $599.99 Delivered @ Bufferstock eBay

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$584.99 with eBay Plus

We have these small load of HP ProLiant ML150 Gen 9.

Comes with a Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2620 v4 @ 2.10GHz with 8 cores ( Plus one CPU slot Free)
2 x 16Gb 2400T DDR4 RAM
1 x Intel SSD DC S3520 Series 240GB 2.5in
2 x 1 TB Seagate HDD 2.5in
Plus 5 x Free 2.5 in Storage Bays with caddies
Includes 3 months Return to base warranty.
TAX invoice provided

Excellent for Home Lab/Home NAS Server

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  • TwinVader on 11/05/2023 - 11:04
    +1

    Forgive my ignorance, but what's the downside with these if you chuck in a half decent GPU and power supply or additional CPU?
    Do they consume a tonne of power? Does the Mobo hamper their compatibility or usefulness long-term?
    Seems super flexible on the face of it, and I've had friends recommend refurb servers as 'all-rounder' general purpose PCs in the past.

    • DellDealLols on 11/05/2023 - 11:17
      +34

      They're generally extremely noisy, due to smaller higher RPM fans, they're extremely power hungry, pretty slow for the price point and all the components have probably had 100% uptime over their life span meaning they're pretty far through their life span before you've got your hands on it.

      You could build the same system with a more modern and faster CPU with brand new parts for the same price point.

      For context the CPU in that server was released in 2012, so the core hardware is probably a decade out of date.

      • TwinVader on 11/05/2023 - 11:19
        +4

        Thanks for the thorough explanation DellDealLols :)

      • Austere on 11/05/2023 - 11:24
        +3

        CPU is Broadwell 2016

        • DellDealLols on 11/05/2023 - 11:48
          +3

          Ahh you're right, my bad I didn't see the v4.

          Other stuff is still relevant my apologies on the date, blame intel's naming conventions :P

      • motk on 11/05/2023 - 11:27
        +6

        It difficult and expensive to find a case with hot-swap caddies and a suitable backplane though.

      • bobloblawlobslawbomb on 12/05/2023 - 10:22
        -1

        Power usage isn't going to be that high. One of the major goals of server design is power efficiency.

        • motk on 15/05/2023 - 10:58

          In terms of performance-per-watt, sure. In terms of actual draw at the plug, no.

    • dav3 on 11/05/2023 - 11:22
      +6

      It's a server chassis, it's going to be noisy, huge, and chew a heap of power.

      • DASHCAM NOW DUDE on 11/05/2023 - 11:27

        Thank you. Power consumption is very important to me.

      • deme on 11/05/2023 - 11:29

        Oh I forgot about the noise that's a very good point

  • mopo on 11/05/2023 - 11:04
    +5

    Excellent for Home Lab/Home NAS Server

    I'd argue against using these for a home NAS. And using it as a home lab server is borderline OK.

    • deme on 11/05/2023 - 11:07

      Why

      • mopo on 11/05/2023 - 11:11
        +3

        Power usage for starters! My NAS is a Xeon-D and my lab is an intel NUC with 64gb RAM. Sips power.

        • Nooblet69 on 11/05/2023 - 13:47

          @mopo
          I am looking to upgrade my NAS from an old Dell r510 rack server to something more power efficient. What did you end up going with? Off the shelf/DIY? would love to know your setup. I want to run TrueNAS on it so want something better than a consumer NAS but dont want to blow the bank either.

        • bobloblawlobslawbomb on 12/05/2023 - 10:24

          Power usage will not be that high. I would guess <100w at full load.

      • DellDealLols on 11/05/2023 - 11:11
        +3

        everything in it is second hand including the raid controllers which have a limited life span and will fail at a certain amount of hours used is a good reason not to use it for data storage.

        • deme on 11/05/2023 - 11:19
          +1

          have a limited life span and will fail at a certain amount of hours used

          This applies to everything in the world.

          Just replace the battery for the raid controller.

          • DellDealLols on 11/05/2023 - 11:23

            @deme: You mean, just buy a replacement RAID card ? the entire controller will die usually around the 6 years uptime mark.

            • deme on 11/05/2023 - 11:25
              +2

              @DellDealLols: Why would it die?

              • DellDealLols on 11/05/2023 - 11:35

                @deme: No clue I'm not any kind of board specialist level specialist.

                I do however manage a whole ton of hosts and have done s for just over a decade now, Raid controllers are the most consistent parts failures (outside of fans and HDDs) across a range of environments, Hosts and SANs. Batteries are never the issue you get alerts on them when they die replace the battery and everything returns to normal, the cards die and then pain happens.

                • resisting the urge on 15/05/2023 - 14:50

                  @DellDealLols: These may have HP H240 controllers in addition to the board-based one. Have you seen them failing en masse?

                  They are pretty reliable in my book.

                  Others… well, it can't hang a hat on any really. Not like the old days. But now really want SSD-enabled, so super fast, super hot, battery backup, lots of onboard memory, all the reliability is out the window 'from a board perspective'

        • incipient on 11/05/2023 - 11:49
          +8

          Don't use "on board" raid. Just go zfs or other software solutions - I even just use a jbod snapshot raid and it's great. Entirely eliminates the single point of failure.

        • stumo on 11/05/2023 - 11:55

          These are onboard controllers though. Are you saying the whole mobo is about to die?

          • DellDealLols on 11/05/2023 - 12:01
            -1

            @stumo: I mean eventually probably sure, but RAID controller is still jut a chip on the board, board will function without it, you just lose the entire raid array and probably all its data, rebuild on a new controller you add into the PCi lanes.

            • stumo on 11/05/2023 - 12:04
              +1

              @DellDealLols: Thats one of the daftest things I've ever heard. These controllers are built into the Intel chipset of the mobo. They run for decades without the slightest issue.

            • gibbo_au on 11/05/2023 - 12:23
              +1

              @DellDealLols: I'm glad you don't manage my servers..

          • knk on 11/05/2023 - 12:30
            +1

            @stumo: okay lets say this controller dies on your, you pull your drives put them in another server. How are you going to read the data?

            You need a similar raid controller, unless it's raid1 in which case you might be able to somehow mount the storage.

            If you use MDADM, BTRFS, ZFS or the like you can then put these disks in any other piece of hardware and access your data.

            Servers like this were intended to be kept until warranties expired and then thrown away or you extend your warranty on said server.

            • Nom on 11/05/2023 - 14:38
              +1

              @knk:

              okay lets say this controller dies on your, you pull your drives put them in another server. How are you going to read the data?

              You just make a fresh new array on your new server, and then restore your backup to it. There shouldn't be anything in your backups that ties your data to a particular RAID controller - that way lies madness.

              If you use MDADM, BTRFS, ZFS or the like you can then put these disks in any other piece of hardware and access your data.

              This applies equally to any hardware controller too - you should always be able to restore your backup to <whatever your new drive pool is made from>.

              • knk on 11/05/2023 - 15:46
                +2

                @Nom: Yeah you're not wrong, but does literally everyone backup a massive (replacable) media library.

                I don't backup my media library, I mean linux ISOs because I know I can re-download them worst case scenario. But I still want to be able to bring my array up to avoid that.

                Important data however is backed up offsite of course.

                For a home use scenario, I would opt for a software raid for this reason. Even if you wanted to move your disks between servers / upgrade it's just simpler.

                • Nom on 11/05/2023 - 19:58
                  +1

                  @knk: Are you sure your library is replaceable ? Many people have all kinds of random old stuff that's really difficult (or impossible) to find again today.
                  If all you have is modern mainstream content then yeah…

                  • knk on 12/05/2023 - 10:39

                    @Nom: Yeah 100% sure, it's nothing special just TV shows / movies that are fairly mainstream.

                    There's some other obscure things (not media related) that I have which I backup to backblaze b2 via restic.

                    Actual VMs + LXC containers are also backed up so I don't need to go to the effort of setting it all up again.

                    Should I lose it all, it's as simple as telling sonarr / radarr to do a massive search and queue up everything for download. It's a calculated risk, I'm happy to lose what I don't have backed up.

              • stumo on 12/05/2023 - 10:52
                -1

                @Nom:

                that way lies madness.

                Exactly. And this has been known since forever, its storage 101.

                But the main thing I was calling out is that "these controllers die after 6 years". Daft. Where are all these 6yo motherboards with dead built in chipset controllers, let alone server grade mobos. lol.

  • poweredbysugar on 11/05/2023 - 11:05

    so there's no 3.5 bays on the HP Proliant ML150? Only 2.5?

    • TwinVader on 11/05/2023 - 11:07

      really?! wow…odd choice, unless they're SFF by comparison?

    • butterboy on 11/05/2023 - 11:09

      Likely either 2.5 (SFF) or 3.5 (LFF) when you purchased new. I have an old ML30 with 8 x SFF bays, but I use a couple of 3.5 to 5.25 adaptors for my spinning drives.

    • knk on 12/05/2023 - 10:39

      These are enterprise servers, 2.5 was very common for sas drives.

  • deme on 11/05/2023 - 11:07

    What is the power consumption like

  • Elijah on 11/05/2023 - 11:08
    +1

    CPU is just not that fast… you rather custom built a PC…

    • deme on 11/05/2023 - 11:11
      -2

      For $599.99?

      • DellDealLols on 11/05/2023 - 11:21
        +4

        CPU - 149
        mobo - 139
        32GB DDR4 (RAM/memory) - 130
        750W powersupply- 150

        $570 for the base components, find a case on Gumtree for $5, SIf you want refurbed 1TB spinning disk drives they go for like $20.

        Or you could spend a touch more on these parts and get something nicer /shrug.

        • deme on 11/05/2023 - 11:22
          -2

          What CPU, What Mobo, Which Power supply?

          • DellDealLols on 11/05/2023 - 11:30
            +1

            @deme: 5000 gen AMD with a relevant motherboard
            It doesn't matter at all but a gold rated silver stone one.

            You could save money on the parts above by going further back in age of parts IE 4000 series AMD instead of 5 or maybe even intel it was just a randomly selected list of things that fit.

            I mean dependent on what you intend to use it for a 750w is also overkill and you scould shave off $50 with a cheaper PSU.

            Point is for the parts that matter yea for sure you can do new.

            • deme on 11/05/2023 - 11:31
              -6

              @DellDealLols: Are you saying you can buy:
              5000 gen AMD with a relevant motherboard
              750w
              32GB DDR4
              Magic $5 case

              All for <$600?

              • BROKENKEYBOARD on 11/05/2023 - 11:34
                +5

                @deme: It's not really that hard https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/FJMJ6r

              • DellDealLols on 11/05/2023 - 11:43
                +1

                @deme: The prices I pulled are from PCCG

                I'm confident you could get a used case for $5 on facebook market place or gumtree, hell probably for free with a little luck, cases outlast all other components and become worthless as aesthetic trends change.
                Every-time I rebuild I list my old case on marketplace to whoever wants to pick it up because it's totally worthless to me, friend group is the same they're the most worthless part of your build second hand because the market is flooded with them.

                Or you could go new for $39 and get that $39 from a cheaper powersupply … or 3000 series CPU.

                https://www.ple.com.au/Products/628726/deepcool-wave-v2-micr…

                Wither way you'd be way better off than this server with a 11 year old CPU in it.

        • MasterScythe on 11/05/2023 - 11:34
          +2

          And even thats overkill.

          Even a ryzen 3700 on a B350 motherboard would run rings around this for gaming use.

  • Austere on 11/05/2023 - 11:30

    Not bad if you want an actual server, but given only 2.5” HDDs probably best sticking to a more recent gen NUC type device

  • Korban Dallas on 11/05/2023 - 11:30
    +1

    $350 nuc has better CPU benchmark

  • hotphil on 11/05/2023 - 11:45
    +2

    Bit of a gamble these. 3 month warranty ain't much. And these will have been going 24/7 for years. One might carry on for another 10 years quite happily. One might have a major hardware failure in a few months. And the parts (if available) will be server-priced.

    Obvs depends on use-case, but I'd not be recommending one to any domestic consumers unless they really know what they're getting.

    • DellDealLols on 11/05/2023 - 11:46

      I can't imagine a usecase for 10 year old hardware that's probably been running for most of that 10 years.

      Edit:
      per another comment I was wrong about the date, been running for ~6 years.
      Still though… I wouldn't do it.

      • hotphil on 11/05/2023 - 12:01
        +2

        Possibly a garage NAS for not-important data, FreeNas for CCTV or whatever.

        Noisy heater.

        • DellDealLols on 11/05/2023 - 12:02
          +4

          It is winter, "space heater + white noise machine" isn't a bad pitch.

      • Wonderfool on 12/05/2023 - 06:54

        Actually, running on 24/7 will induce less wear compared turning it on and off.

        Same discussion for mining gpus.

        • TightLikeThisx on 12/05/2023 - 07:27

          Exactly. Less stress from expansion via heating/cooling. Plus these systems have sufficient cooling.

  • vovikdrg on 11/05/2023 - 12:00

    Now regret buying my gen 8 server :) How many gpus it can hold?

  • congo on 11/05/2023 - 12:16
    +1

    How many 3.5 in Storage Bays ?
    Not interested in 2.5 in.

  • stephendt on 11/05/2023 - 12:37
    +3

    These are generally reliable, but HP are painful. I have an ML350 G9 and I had to hack the ILO so it doesn't sound like a jet engine when you insert an NVME SSD that isn't from HP. Expect a lot of proprietary nonsense

  • Fastjam on 11/05/2023 - 12:55

    Hi all, would the dell7050 advertised be ok as a standalone Plex server?thanks in advance.

    • Nom on 11/05/2023 - 14:44

      Yep.
      Absolutely anything will work as a Plex server, it just needs to A. Work and B. Have USB3 ports so you can connect hard drives (if there's a lack of internal bays).
      You don't need any particular level of RAM or CPU other than the bare minimum just to share video files on your network.

    • Fastjam on 11/05/2023 - 14:55

      Thank you, will buy that later on then :)

  • mousie on 11/05/2023 - 13:18

    OzRealisable value.

  • sludo on 11/05/2023 - 13:25

    Shame this is not powerful enough to bottleneck the 4090 deal :D

  • ausbuysell12 on 11/05/2023 - 13:45

    DELL Ultrasharp LED Monitor P2419HC

    A bit misleading - don't think this particular model is part of Dell's Ultrasharp range of monitors.

    • KnifeEnthusiastBoi on 11/05/2023 - 16:12

      More to the point i think also Ultrasharp are denoted by U, so it would be U2419 not P2419

  • ravescar on 11/05/2023 - 13:59
    +1

    The issue with using these as NAS is when something fails.

    In my case the fan on ML320v2 gen 8 fails and the machine is not bootable without replacing the fan. HP ilo fan solution not sufficient error. These fan has propertiary 4 pin connector, using non pwm signal, noisy and are harder to find replacement for.

    Gutted that NAS using normal parts so i can easily replace parts when something fails.

  • uccoffee on 11/05/2023 - 14:08

    the Dell 7050 Desktop
    [Dell OptiPlex 7050 Desktop SSF Intel i5 7500U 256GB SSD NVmE 500GB HDD 8GB RAM - $199.99 delivered[(https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/285218205868)

    seems great, any thoughts ?

  • sob baget on 11/05/2023 - 14:19
    +3

    7 year old, 8-core, enterprise grade CPU is gonna hoe through power like a motherf—-er. If you gotta ask if this is a good PC for you, it probably isn't.

  • hes21 on 11/05/2023 - 16:27
    +1

    I just finished setting one of these up - just homeserver duties, and my upgrade paths was Microservers (N54L then Gen9), an ML30, then the ML150.

    re. Noise - there are servers and there are servers, and you can't lump them all in together. The ML series, while it can be rack-mounted, is designed to be used at a desk. Yes it gets loud for maybe 10 seconds at startup, but then it quitens right down. Even this reasonable amount of noise I wasn't happy with, so I swapped in 2 x 120mm fans. I might change over the fan in the PSU as well, but understand I'm going for silent, not reasonable.

    re. Upgradablility - it's got a second CPU slot, and enough PCI slots to keep me happy (some of the smaller ML series have PCI slots with less lanes attached than you'd think, but the 150 has them all fully connected. You are spoiled for choice when considering CPU's to upgrade to - anything from an energy efficient 4 core, to a monster 22 core 3.6Ghz - and all these CPUs are plentiful on aliexpress.

    Yeah I'd prefer my old Microserver could do it all, and the ML150 is larger than I'd like, but it's got everything and isn't that loud.

    • scotty on 11/05/2023 - 18:09

      How would you compare the noise level between N54L & ML150? I am still running an N54L at home as NAS + everything server, upgraded to 16GB but seriously bottlenecked on the CPU.

      • hes21 on 12/05/2023 - 11:11

        Its way louder than the N54L. The Microserver GEN9 isn't silent either - expecially when you use non-supported hard drives or PCI cards - then iLO kicks in to make sure everything is alright and turns the fans up. There are some scipts to turn it down though, or you can get a little fan plug from aliexpress to fake a "everything is alright" signal from the main chassis fan and then run a quieter chassis fan.

        If you are in a quiet environment then you're definitely going to hear the ML150, but it's nothing like the DL series etc… that are designed to be rackmounted in a datacentre. If you go the ML150 then I'd recommend switching the 2 main fans out (92mm), or if you are handy getting 2 x 120mm fans, but you're going to need to make some brackets to hold them. I didn't have any 92mm fans at hand, but I had spare 120mm fans, so I made them work.

        If you are wanting to upgrade from a N54L however, and it's a bit slow but apart from that OK, then the ML150 is overkill. Try a Gen9 Microserver, or a Gen8 or 9 ML30 (but be warned some of the PCI slots are crippled - they look like 8 lane but only have 1 connected).

  • stringbean402 on 12/05/2023 - 07:30
    +1

    For those who might be thinking of getting a suitable PLEX server with 4K transcoding ability these HP workstations are a great deal ! I just got one recently and is working great. The GPU alone is worth $300-400. Easily worth the extra $200 more for than this deal, much more up to date and capable.

    HP Z4 G4 Workstation i7-9800X 8C 3.8GHZ 32GB RAM Quadro P4000 512GB SSD WIN 11

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/255994782855?var=555922510634

    AU $791.12 - ebay Plus
    AU $809.10 - non ebay plus

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    • BaryGusey on 12/05/2023 - 11:26

      Nice find - thank you. Looking for a GPU card and something to put it in, this might be perfect.

    • stumo on 12/05/2023 - 15:23
      +1

      Thats really expensive for the specs.
      Much better workstation deals have been posted before like:
      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/735094
      or the same model:
      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/769009

      The GPU alone is worth $300-400.

      Its worth maybe $150 used. Even then you'd be better off with a power sipping fanless one for your usage.

      • BaryGusey on 12/05/2023 - 15:28

        Damn - those other ones had a decent price - have you seen those GPUs going for $150 anywhere?

      • stringbean402 on 12/05/2023 - 17:09

        The one with the M6000 is decent, the card is roughly comparable but very power hungry. The system as a whole is still about 30% under spec by comparison.

        For the price though that was a fantastic deal.

        The last 4 completed sales on eBay for the Quadro P4000 were $299, $339, $339 & $300. They do fetch decent money. 105w TDP is pretty decent.

        The K420 is rubbish, it’s a throw away and replace job.

        • BaryGusey on 12/05/2023 - 17:31

          Thank you. Yeh… been checking them out on ebay, and some higher spec quadros. I want it for some AI stuff and adobe apps so these suit me quite well, but will see if I can hold off a while and wait for a bargain I think.

  • jsefrog on 12/05/2023 - 08:10

    Anyone have this HP 27" 2k monitor? Wondering what it would look like against my Dell sd27.
    60hz not great, IPS sounds good

    • MasterScythe on 12/05/2023 - 21:49

      27inch 1440p is, IMO the perfect sweet spot.

      Sharper than 1080, but can be driven by affordable GPU's.

      HP's are typically known for their low IPS glow (which is the only real negative toward going IPS), so Id be more than happy to give one a try.

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