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A bundle hosted by Oak Grove Games by Esther Wallace with content from 140 creators.

In response to the ongoing crisis in Gaza and occupied Palestine, we're creating this bundle to raise funds for the organization Medical Aid For Palestinians. All funds raised will go to the organization.

From the organization's website: "MAP's vision is a future where all Palestinians can access an effective, sustainable and locally-led system of healthcare, and the full realisation of their rights to health and dignity.

Through our programmes in the West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem, and Lebanon, we work with trusted and experienced local partners to achieve this vision. Our programmes, designed and delivered by Palestinians, provide access to essential health services and build local knowledge and skills to address Palestinian health problems. In times of humanitarian emergency, we are ready to respond rapidly with aid and assistance.

MAP is also committed to bearing witness to the injustices caused by occupation, displacement and conflict. We speak out in the UK and internationally, and ensure Palestinian voices are heard at the highest levels, to press for the political and social barriers to Palestinian health and dignity to be addressed." This bundle will run for two weeks, from October 26th-November 9th, 2023.

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      • rightguy on 31/10/2023 - 13:41
        +1

        Not sure where you get your information but life expectancy in Gaza for sits around 74 years. Compare that to 77 for USA, 70 for Egypt, 70 for Mexico, 76 for Saudi Arabia, 75 for Jordan, 74 for Morocco, 67 for India, 71 for Mongolia, 76 for Turkey, and so on. Chad has the worst life expectancy at around 52 years of age. No one has a life expectancy less than 18. That just doesn't exist anywhere on planet Earth.

        That's not to say that there's not room for improvement but certainly Gaza has a better than average rate of life expectancy as the world average is around 72 years. Consider this, an Aboriginal man in Australia has a worse life expectancy than a man in Gaza which speaks a lot to our own internal issues about how we value and treat our Aboriginal population. Anyways, food for thought.

      • CowFrogHorse on 09/11/2023 - 17:02

        He is lying, the average person in Gaza lives to over 70. A simple search will show you this.

        • Vater Woods on 09/11/2023 - 17:09
          -1

          44% of population is under age of 14, how long does the other 56% have to live to bring the average to your/FBI average of 76? 135? Look at yourself in the mirror, why do you/Israel supporters always think the world is stupid to believe in your lies?

          • CowFrogHorse on 09/11/2023 - 17:14

            @Vater Woods:

            44% of population is under age of 14, how long does the other 56% have to live to bring the average to your/FBI average of 76

            i said the average Person lives to over 70.. i didnt say the average person in Gaza today is 70.

            Learn to read.

            Maybe the real question you should be asking is why are they having so many kids when they live in a shithole ?

            What kind of a parent has that many kids when they live in those conditions ?

            Is it fair to have lots of kids when you cant afford to feed and take care of one properly ?

            MEDIAN is not the same as AVERAGE DEATH age.

            Look at yourself in the mirror, why do you/Israel supporters always think the world is stupid to believe in your lies?

            If you want to call me a liar then show facts from a REAL source, dont call me or anyone else names like a 5 yo.

            • Vater Woods on 09/11/2023 - 17:27

              @CowFrogHorse: Another weasel reply, when people say Gaza, they say Palestine, when People say Palestine, they say Hamas, when people say Hamas, they say terrorist sympathiser.

              • CowFrogHorse on 09/11/2023 - 17:30

                @Vater Woods: Your sentence doesnt even make sense - learn to write like an adult.

                Secondly learn to write without calling people childish names, then again given your sentence doesnt even make sense - i guess you cant do better.

                • Vater Woods on 09/11/2023 - 18:31
                  -1

                  @CowFrogHorse: Resorting to personal attacks now?

                  Typical Israel genocide supporter response.

                  • [Deactivated] on 10/11/2023 - 06:33

                    @Vater Woods: I've previously given you the life expectancy of Gaza specifically. You're clearly trolling or just ignorant.

                    • Vater Woods on 10/11/2023 - 07:26

                      @[Deactivated]: When 44% of population is under age of 14, how long does the other 56% have to live to bring the average to your/FBI average of 76? 135? Look at yourself in the mirror, why do you/Israel supporters always think the world is stupid to believe in your lies?

                      Even the current death matched the figure of 41% being children, when, where and how did the other 56% of Gazan being age of 135 without world knowing?

                      • CowFrogHorse on 10/11/2023 - 09:24

                        @Vater Woods: @Vater

                        Do you think its sensible to have so many kids in that situation ?

                        WhaT kind of parent has so many kids when life is a struggle like it is in Gaza ?

                        Having lots of kids is a large part of the Gaza problem. The Gazans are provoking the Israeli government to lock them up in that prison because the Israeli people are scared of being outvoted and out numbered in what they consider their country. Not saying i agree - im simply point ing out the facts that are the history of the country and why Gaza the prison state exists the way that it does.

                        Personally i think its morally wrong to have kisd when you live in a shithole like that - its not fair to bring more life to live a condemn horrible life that is clearly getting worse. When you have too many rats in a box, they start to kill and become more violent and desparate, and this is exactly the same as we see in Gaza. Too many people and not enough land.

                        • Vater Woods on 10/11/2023 - 14:01

                          @CowFrogHorse: Your words is exact definition of Victim blaming.

                          Maybe you should ask yourself why were they in that situation first. Hint, search Nakba Massacre.

                          And for 75 years, their population barely grow double. While at same time Israel's population grow 30 times.

                          And everywhere over the world, even in China, where it was hit by famine, restricted by one Child policy, the population still grew near 10 times.

                          Now compare that to Gaza, by the way nearly half of Gazan was displaced there by Isreal, and you still victim blaming.

                          I can only guess, certain people have no moral compass.

                          • CowFrogHorse on 10/11/2023 - 14:04

                            @Vater Woods: vater: Maybe you should ask yourself why were they in that situation first. Hint, search Nakba Massacre.

                            cow: Why dont you write down a complete thought….

                            vater: And for 75 years, their population barely grow double. While at same time Israel's population grow 30 times.

                            cow: so what - im talking about today. they are not doing themselves any favours having so many kids.

                            vater: Now compare that to Gaza, by the way nearly half of Gazan was displaced there by Isreal, and you still victim blaming.

                            cow: no.. im stating a FACT.

                            FACT is there are too many people, Israelis and Palestinians in the state of Israel. MORE people will only cause MORE violence, because theres simply not enough land to go around. Both sides are selfish and dont want to share its that simple.

                            • CowFrogHorse on 10/11/2023 - 14:11

                              @CowFrogHorse: We are already seeing fights in other places because of too many people. Fights over water, fights over land etc, and there will be more when the have and have nots.

                              When there are more people in Israel there will be more violence, even between arabs to arab or jew to jew.

                            • Vater Woods on 10/11/2023 - 14:45

                              @CowFrogHorse: I see, a lazy genocide supporter, crying out FACT without any fact or knowledge to back up.

                              Please see a mental doctor.

    • Nephail on 31/10/2023 - 00:58
      +17

      LoL, are you really Broden or Biden?

    • Roddi on 31/10/2023 - 03:00
      +16

      @broden re "Brainwashed people led by homicidal maniacs"
      Hamas was elected once in 2006, narrowly beating Fatah (which recognised Israel in 1993) and abolished elections after a civil war between them. So I wouldn't say they lead a population of brainwashed Palestinians - you'd need ongoing elections to claim that.

      But I get the temptation to think this way. But my views began to shift when I read when I read that one of the organisers of the Melbourne rallies is an ex-IDF combat officer, Nachshon Amir. https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/he-was-an-israel…

      That's absolutely the last thing I would expect. It made zero sense to me. In an attempt to avoid the usual pro- and anti-Israel arguments, this lead me to look into Jewish (especially Israeli) opposition to what Israel is doing. The opposition is in the minority, obviously, but it's diverse and growing. From academics (eg Norman Finkelstein), to the New Historians (eg Avi Schlaim, Ilan Pappe, Benny Morris) to journalists (Gideon Levy at Haaretz) to activist groups (B'tselem, Breaking the Silence, Jewish Voices for Peace, J Street). They're controversial in Israel, predictably called traitors, Arab lovers etc. But I respect the guts it takes to go against the mainstream and hold your own country to account, to advocate for an unpopular minority, and do that year after year, for decades.

      Google or YouTube them if you want. You might have an opinion longer than 6 words afterwards. That might be uncomfortable - and opinions about human rights should be.

      PS: for those who are curious, here's a link to Gideon at an Oxford debate. Maybe he's wrong, but goddamn he's passionate and speaking his truth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5zw3Yz-yas

  • life is suffering on 31/10/2023 - 00:48
    +7

    As a son of capitalism i ask this , is this worth 10 bucks ?

    • kl2999 on 31/10/2023 - 09:32
      +4

      As someone from a communist country, the games should be free.

  • Dumb Dad on 31/10/2023 - 00:51
    +11

    Free Palpatine

    • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 01:18
      +19

      From Hamas.

      • Dauphin on 31/10/2023 - 06:44
        +6

        And from Iran as well

      • subwoofer on 01/11/2023 - 19:57
        -1

        Hamas was created by isreal don't be too hard on them

    • Freestyle on 31/10/2023 - 01:48
      +3

      I AM THE SENATE

    • AEKaBeer on 31/10/2023 - 07:01

      From Kathleen Kennedy

    • Yummy on 31/10/2023 - 07:54

      Luke… I am your dumb father…

    • Bloodfart on 31/10/2023 - 10:56

      somehow palpatine returned…

  • veetor on 31/10/2023 - 00:52

    Holding out for someone to do an awesome Steam bundle like there was for Ukraine. Not fussed which side it's for, as long as there aren't too many repeats.

  • Viper8 on 31/10/2023 - 00:53
    +45

    What's the odds that some of the money raised ends up being used to build Qassam rockets and expand the tunnels networks under various hospitals?
    Hamas controls everything in Gaza, so saying the odds are little to none would be naive.

    • King Steuart on 31/10/2023 - 05:37
      +4

      MBS was about to take over Gaza and turn it into something actually liveable. KSA's version of the Abraham Accords. Biden actually had a deal with them.

      This is Hamas' last stand. I feel horrible for the innocent Palestinians stuck in the middle. The ones that have done nothing to help Hamas.

      • CowFrogHorse on 09/11/2023 - 17:03

        Is this the same MBS that has been pushing the price of oil up which helps Putin get more money for his oil ?

        You are talking crap MBS was asked by the west to flood the market with oil and he has done the opposite.

        MBS is no better than Putin, he probably executes far more - but nobody cares because its Saudi arabia.

        • King Steuart on 09/11/2023 - 17:29

          The only thing I said that wasn't made public already was that MBS was about to take over Gaza. They were 100% on the verge of signing an agreement with the U.S. and Israel.

          The current rhetoric is that Netanyahu wants to take control of Gaza but that won't be forever, unlike these comments.

          • CowFrogHorse on 09/11/2023 - 17:31

            @King Steuart: Where is your proof ?

            You are making a big statement - that nobody will including me, believe.

            Big claims require big evidence.

            • King Steuart on 09/11/2023 - 17:33

              @CowFrogHorse: There's no public proof yet but it's not hard to read between the lines.

              Big claims only require big evidence if they're made on a big platform, not here. Enjoy the show!

              • CowFrogHorse on 09/11/2023 - 17:37

                @King Steuart: If you claim you have solved super conductivity - then you must show it, nothing else stands up.

                If you claim you have a Ferrari at your house, then you better let me come and have a look and take me for a drive.

                If you claim you have an alien body - guess what show the world.

                Reading between the lines isnt evidence, anywhere, no scientific body will accept "between the lines" as proof for some science, …

              • CowFrogHorse on 09/11/2023 - 17:38

                @King Steuart: The statements i made about price of oil etc a few comments above are FACTS, you can search many news websites and more - there is NO BETWEEN the lines..

              • CowFrogHorse on 09/11/2023 - 17:40

                @King Steuart: king: Big claims only require big evidence if they're made on a big platform, not here. Enjoy the show!

                cow: bullshit.

                ALL truth requires evidence.

                WOul dyou allow your kids to take fake medicine thata has not been tested and verified by the goverment ?

                Or should anyone be allowed to sell anything that is never tested, and never quality controlled by standards ?

                Im not claiming the government perfect , and it often makes mistakes ,but its far better than allowing fake doctors to sell fake crap.

                You are supporting fake crap, shame on you.

                • King Steuart on 13/11/2023 - 22:47

                  @CowFrogHorse: https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4305628-netanyahu-israel-…

                  Oh geez, oh wow, I wonder where this is heading 🫠

                  Surely not another Arab state taking control

                  • CowFrogHorse on 14/11/2023 - 09:05

                    @King Steuart: Its a bit hard for me to grasp exactly what ytour saying given you cant actually write a complete sentence.

                    Try writing something complete instead of a mish mash of random ideas that dont actually make a single point.

                    Im not really sure what point you are ttrying to make, but of course N opposes Hamas authority in Gaza…

                    What else did you expect, they just killed a few hundreds citizens of Israel, did you really think given his background he would be happy ?

                    You obviously have no understanding of his family background, he has no love for the PLO and any other similar P party.

  • nurbsenvi on 31/10/2023 - 00:58
    +19

    I support neither.
    Israel is ethnic cleansing as they were cleansed.
    Hamas has the same goal but just because they are the underdog doesn’t mean they will get my vote

    • poisongodmachine on 31/10/2023 - 01:15
      +30

      Hamas is not Palestine. It is a terrorist group FROM Palestine.
      There are upwards of 7000 Palestinians dead in the past 3 weeks, including over 3000 children. If you think Israel is targeting Hamas, you are mistaken.
      Israel just needed this excuse to do what they've been wanting to do for almost 8 decades: completely cleanse the land of all Palestinians.

      • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 01:21
        +20

        Hamas was elected by the Palestinians in Gaza and majority of Palestinians in Gaza are still support it.
        The number of casualties are provides by Hamas and are not reliable.
        Any claims of ethical cleansing are false given the population of civilians in Gaza and West Bank are growing by the year and are over 5M.

        • Deviner on 31/10/2023 - 01:38
          +36

          If you're being oppressed, have little to no future, have literally no rights and no real support from anyone, and a group of armed guys pipes up and says they hate your oppressor and will actively fight them…. you'd probably support the armed guys as well.

          • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 01:42
            +8

            @Deviner: Israel left Gaza strip in 2005. There is no Israeli presence there. They only thing they are oppressed by is their victim mentality.

            • RobotWizard on 31/10/2023 - 01:50
              +28

              @SolidlyIrresponsible: You really believe they LEFT? Every aspect of Palestinian lives have been and still is controlled by Israelis, there are videos of Israeli soldiers murdering children arresting and kicking out whole families over past few decades, just look at Israel expansion map for past few decades and you'll understand without hurting your brain too much.

              • iperezgenius on 31/10/2023 - 03:07
                +1

                @RobotWizard: So when there is a presence, Israel is there. When they leave, kick out the Israeli population, Israel is still there.

                You can't have your cake and eat it. If Israel is in Gaza do you think this would have happened in the first place. Use your head. Your logic doesn't make sense.

                If no matter what Israel does they are still at fault what make you think they care about world opinion.

              • singlemalt72 on 31/10/2023 - 07:43

                @RobotWizard: The left?

                I think, by far you will find right wing media washes the Israeli behaviour In the US 79% of Republicans support Isreal vs 24% of democrats.

                FFS, our Prime Minister is currently under fire from right wing pundits for his support of the Palestinian people in his younger days.

                • kl2999 on 31/10/2023 - 09:44
                  -2

                  @singlemalt72: US is owned by jews. The media is owned by jews. Media just shows what they want you to see.

                  • singlemalt72 on 31/10/2023 - 11:02
                    +1

                    @kl2999: If you want to make a point that will be taken seriously, don't make such an assinine point.

                    The Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Fox News, Cox, BBC, NPR, Thomson Reuters, Forbes, Huffington Post, USA Today, The Guardian and Hearst - all have no Jewish ownership - we are in an age where we have more access to independent media than ever before, just because Kanye or Rogan or other idiotic talking heads say "Jews own the media" does not make it true.

              • CowFrogHorse on 09/11/2023 - 17:18
                -1

                @RobotWizard: So why dont the Palestinians just leave an goto the other 50+ muslim countries ?

                Is it really worth the trouble to stay ?

                • RobotWizard on 10/11/2023 - 14:02
                  +1

                  @CowFrogHorse: Same reason why 50+ other white countries didn't take Jews before Holocaust, Why don't the European countries or any of 50 States in US take the jews in? you're asking occupied people to leave and not the occupier?

                  • CowFrogHorse on 10/11/2023 - 14:14

                    @RobotWizard: @RobotWizard

                    Same reason why 50+ other white countries didn't take Jews before Holocaust,

                    cow:

                    Thats untrue, jews left nazi germany and went to many other european countries.

                    ~

                    robot: Why don't the European countries or any of 50 States in US take the jews in?

                    cow:

                    they did…not sure what your saying here.

                    We only get one life… im talking from a practical perspective, if conditions were that bad its simply not worth wasting your years in that mess, and you should leave so you and your family can have some peace.

                    ~
                    Robot: you're asking occupied people to leave and not the occupier?

                    Theres no such thing as occupied and occupier, the jews and arabs are the same people, in the end we are all brothers and sisters.

                    • RobotWizard on 10/11/2023 - 15:52

                      @CowFrogHorse: Do you think other countries have opened their doors and have flights booked in for them to come through? I'd love to see why you think other countries would or should let them in because they are Muslim? They have no passport, they have always lived under oppression in what they call "Open Air Prison", Israel is murdering women, children and wiping out entire generation of families in broad daylight committing Genocide and no one has any balls to say anything, kicking them out of their land is what they want, their gov officials have said it openly again and again.

                      The Irony for those people to become what they once hated, I did not know anything about Palestine or Israel, I went on to do some research online with open mind and saw videos dating back all the way to early 2000's showing how Israeli's have been treating Palestinians and I couldn't believe something like this still happens in this day and age.

                      "There's no such thing as occupied and occupier, the jews and arabs are the same people, in the end we are all brothers and sisters."

                      Its funny you say that where one side of brother and sisters have no water, electricity or food and are getting bombed 24/7, media will only show one side of brothers and sisters as being killed and others just "died", so clearly one side of brothers and sisters lives are worth more than other side.

                      Do some research and if you're a good human being you will see who is right.

                      • CowFrogHorse on 10/11/2023 - 18:06

                        @RobotWizard: Robot: Do you think other countries have opened their doors and have flights booked in for them to come through? I'd love to see why you think other countries would or should let them in because they are Muslim?

                        cow: many muslim countries have openly banned Palestinians and when they do let them in they treat them like shit. THere are many P working on the mega projects of the gulf states, working 15+ hours a day in the hot sun, in terrible conditions with no basic water or working toilets.

                        You dont appreciate the other muslim countries are aresholes, they treat their own citizens far worse than the Israelis treat the P.

                        I wont even name the obvious dictators, i will instead focus on Morrocco. Go look at a map, they have built a wall thats thousands of kms long, and denied the people of the Western Sahara accesss to the sea.

                        Im sure you are smart and can list a dozen countries where muslims have actively killed other muslims by the thousands and millions.

                        • RobotWizard on 10/11/2023 - 19:49

                          @CowFrogHorse: So that makes it okay for Israel to kill as well in broad daylight right?

                          • CowFrogHorse on 10/11/2023 - 20:13

                            @RobotWizard: @Robot

                            You asked a question about how other muslim countries treated other muslims and i replied. None of the reply was opinion its all facts that you can easily verify by a quick look up of wiki on western sahara.

                            Show a little class and stop putting words into mouth that i have NEVER said.

                      • CowFrogHorse on 10/11/2023 - 20:23

                        @RobotWizard: Robot: Do some research and if you're a good human being you will see who is right.

                        Cow: i have neer said what israel is doing is right.

                        All im saying is the middle east is a horrible place where their standards are terrible, everybody there is vicious and cruel many many times over. Unfortunately when you work with people who are that cruel to their own girls, what else is Israel supposed to do ? Its always been that way, even the Romans said the Arabs were cruel. Go read your bible if you want more examples of cruelty. Take the story of Jesus, its not a pleasant story - i mean just stop and think about it. What kind of f**ked up father sends his own son to be tortured and thats only the start of the horrble stories that parents do to their own kids in the bible. If you want another example look at th ehistory of the Koran, and the story of Mohammad and hiscompanions. Out of the first 10 only one died of old age, the rest were killed by their friends etc.

                        The P dont leave Israel because their muslim brothers across the border are WORSE…?

                        Dont shoot the messenger, for telling you a basic truth. Hamas has killed far more of their citizens than Israel ever has. Im not denying Israel has creaated a prison, but you dont seem to realise how cruel the middle east is too women.

                        Im jsut saying what you dont appreciate is that the arabs are also terrible - i mean look at what how they treat their own women and daughters. When you appreciate this then you will understand what Israel is doing and why.

            • Deviner on 31/10/2023 - 01:50
              +24

              @SolidlyIrresponsible: I can't tell if you're trolling or if you're just this wilfully ignorant that you genuinely think Gaza is some sort of oasis where the Palestinians all happily live and are completely left alone by Israel.

              • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 01:53
                +7

                @Deviner: I don't believe I said any of that. If you have on one side a terrorist organisation that controls the strip and does everything it can to cause civilian casualties on both sides, the problem is not Israel….

                • Deviner on 31/10/2023 - 02:00
                  +8

                  @SolidlyIrresponsible: Well my comment, which you were responding to, was about the fact Israel are oppressing Gaza for decades.
                  You say they left in 2005 and they've no presence there, implying everyone in Gaza should be untouched and undisturbed by Israel.

                  Hence my comment about whether you are this ignorant or if you're trolling.
                  Because I don't think I've even heard a single pro-Israel person come to that conclusion before.

                • rooster7777 on 31/10/2023 - 07:31

                  @SolidlyIrresponsible: You forgot to mention the actions of israel ….on the other side.

            • Youi2018 on 31/10/2023 - 01:52
              +12

              @SolidlyIrresponsible: Lol every isreali person says the same thing . “ we left gaza in 05” but you fully control their electricity, water, borders ect . So how did you leave gaza ?

              • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 01:57
                +13

                @Youi2018: Well, for starters, Gaza has border with two countries. And its electricity is being provided from both sides of that border.
                The borders are controlled because Gaza isn't Israel so there is a border, obviously. And given the recent attack, it is clear why such border exists.

                • Youi2018 on 31/10/2023 - 02:04
                  +2

                  @SolidlyIrresponsible: What are you talking about ? How can you “ leave” an area but still control everything that happens in that area? Also are you saying Egypt provides electricity to gaza? Any proof of that ?

                  • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 02:09
                    +10

                    @Youi2018: Use google. "Gaza electricity crisis" would be a good start.

                    • Youi2018 on 31/10/2023 - 02:11
                      +4

                      @SolidlyIrresponsible: Send me where it says egypt supplies their electricity or you are lying

                      You made the comment, you show the proof

                        • Youi2018 on 31/10/2023 - 02:25
                          +4

                          @SolidlyIrresponsible: “The Israel Electric Corporation (IEC) supplies most of the electricity in the Palestinian territories” .In normal circumstances, IEC supplied 125 MW of electricity to the Gaza Strip via ten high voltage power lines……Then it goes on to say it buys some from eygpt ?

                          Again how did they leave gaza in 05 ?

                          • SolidlyIrresponsible on 31/10/2023 - 11:25

                            @Youi2018: You seem to swing between "Israel are controlling Gaza by providing them electricity" and "Israel doesn't provide Gaza electricity". Which one is it?

                        • iperezgenius on 31/10/2023 - 03:11
                          +5

                          @SolidlyIrresponsible: You are aware that anybody can write and edit a wiki page. You are also aware that If Egypt supplied electricity then Gaza would have electricity. If you are saying that Israel provides electricity and cut it off…which is what the entire world is saying, which is true I believe, then surely they would then say
                          "but thank goodness for Egypt who are supplying the needs of the Gazan people"

                          Again use your head. Dont just watch some idiot on instagram or youtube and believe them. 1 + 1 = 2 not some other number that someone tells you.

              • damz on 31/10/2023 - 09:02
                +6

                @Youi2018: Gaza receives Millions of dollars every year. Instead of spending it on building infrastructure and amenities for common people to make them self sustainable they spend it on building tunnels and buying arms. Pathetic guys. I feel for those innocent people but these people should first choose their leaders properly.

                • kl2999 on 31/10/2023 - 09:54
                  +1

                  @damz: Do you know that no tall building, port are allow in Gaza? any well they dig for water Israeli fill it in cement. How can people in Gaza get better infrastructure while every aspect is controlled by Israel. The wall existing is not because Hamas, its to encage people in Gaza so that they dont fill in the streets of Israel. There never been any intend to let Palastine to keep any land.

                  • damz on 31/10/2023 - 20:35
                    +1

                    @kl2999: Why do they want to fill the streets of Israel?
                    This is the truth - Even if a two state solution was agreed(which has been agreed in the past but spoilt) groups like Hamas won’t accept/allow it. They believe Israel should not exist. How do you expect Israel to live with that attitude and those kind of enemies?
                    Israel takes steps out of necessities.
                    Whenever it has gone soft or lost focus it has faced with retaliations.
                    This time Hamas has invited big trouble by making Israel very angry and have given them reason for the way they are reacting. Did you expect Israel to keep quiet?

                  • CowFrogHorse on 09/11/2023 - 17:19

                    @kl2999: So why do the Gazans have so many kids ?

          • CowFrogHorse on 09/11/2023 - 17:04

            @Deviner: So why do they have so many kids ?

            Every picture you see on tv and the internet shows a family with LOTS of small kids ?

            What is wrong wit those people to have so many kids when they live in such a shithole ?

      • Webbo on 31/10/2023 - 01:49
        +19

        Gaza was free but 'Palestinians' don't want part of the land, they want it all along with the deaths of all Israelis. You can lie just like Mo and give all sorts of fake figures.

      • slepax on 31/10/2023 - 02:21
        +12

        Do you agree that Israel must remove Hamas?
        If no - so basically you support 7/Oct repeating in 4-5 years time just x20 bigger. Great.
        If yes - do you have a solution for Israel to remove Hamas without killing a single civilian. Would love to hear your plan.

        • Youi2018 on 31/10/2023 - 02:29

          Ummm find where hamas is and go in with a ground invasion ??

          You do know gaza strip is one of the most surveillance areas in the world ?

          You do know “hamas” has been around for 37 years ?….

          Looks like they don't actually want to get rid of them . Great excuse to occupy all of the land 👍

          • perfectlydark on 31/10/2023 - 07:41
            +7

            @Youi2018: Hamas is everywhere in Gaza, not hanging out in a single location. they are hiding in hospitals, schools, under apartments, in apartments. a ground invasion will not be any cleaner. They absolutely need to be purged, the problem is that doing so inspires more, and with such a young average age, what else are young angry men good for if not dying for a violent cause

          • singlemalt72 on 31/10/2023 - 07:46
            +6

            @Youi2018: How do you go in and "find Hamas" they dont have a uniform, they dont carry membership cards.

        • cmyk on 31/10/2023 - 05:23
          +3

          .@slepax So there are bad people with guns shooting students at a school in Connecticut, do you support the police bombing the school?
          Fact in the 3 weeks since Oct 7, more than 3250 children have been killed. 3125 in Gaza, 33 in West Bank (no Hamas) and 29 in Israel

          • ozsandyb on 31/10/2023 - 07:09
            +3

            @cmyk: 29 in Israel! Where are you getting these "facts"? Instagram?

          • Bdawg on 31/10/2023 - 09:21
            -2

            @cmyk: What a ridiculous analogy, back to school for you.

            • cmyk on 31/10/2023 - 09:34
              +1

              @Bdawg: @bdawg what a ridiculous comment, back to school for you.

            • CowFrogHorse on 09/11/2023 - 17:06

              @Bdawg: @Bdawg:

              Gaza is a failed state run by thugs and war lords.

              Nobody wins if Hamas is allowed to continue, even if Israel left today Hamas would turn Palestine into a failed state run that would look a lot more like Afghanistan than Isrrael of today.

              • Bdawg on 10/11/2023 - 09:18

                @CowFrogHorse: I'm well aware. I was disparaging the idiotic analogy of bombing a school to stop a shooter as compared to what Israel is justifiably doing. There is no other option.

      • maverickjohn on 31/10/2023 - 03:08
        +8

        Israel are wanting their hostages.
        I get people are pissed at the approach Israel are taking. But let's not forget Hamas targeted Israel during one of their religious ceremonies when they were vulnerable, kidnapped 400+ hostages. Have hid them/ slaughtered then not willing to give them up. Israel in an aggressive approach are counter attacking to also try and claim them but Hamas won't let up.
        We can all blame Israel. But the culprit if this war is Hamas and so many innocent Israeli and Palestinian lives have been lost as a result . Humankind lost once again from acts of terrorism

      • amsaini15 on 31/10/2023 - 05:51
        +4

        If Hamas is terrorist group and doesn't have support of Palestinian people, why all Muslim countries not joining hands and putting pressure on Hamas to return back hostages? Why are all Arab countries continuing to see the massacre of Palestinian people? Why are they not publicly denouncing them?

        • CowFrogHorse on 09/11/2023 - 17:10

          When did the muslims states ever stand up for other muslims ?

          How many muslim states protested against Saddam when he was gassing thousands ?

          Picking on someone else and calling them name is the oldest trick in the history of world politics. Most muslim countries are shitholes, and instead of fixing their own problems and corruption they mention israel and let their populations get angry at them. Hitler did the same back in the day, its a distraction.

          Muslim leaders dont care about their own people they kill tens of thosuands every year, do you really think they care about the Palestinians ? Of course they dont, you dont see any of those Muslim brothers inviting the P to their countries, and when they do they work them under slave like conditions.

      • poincare on 31/10/2023 - 08:11
        +1

        That's about half of killed are children! Are the Zionists fighting Hamas or the children?!

        • Wolfenstein98k on 31/10/2023 - 09:27
          +3

          They have lots of children (high birth rate) and Hamas intentionally uses civilians and civilian areas as human shields.

          What do you expect?

          • poincare on 31/10/2023 - 17:36
            +2

            @Wolfenstein98k:

            They have lots of children

            What a justification to kill children! The least that can be called is immoral.

            You may not have thought about it well. So, I advise you to see the videos to wake up and realize that these are real innocent children, not a game or a movie.

            Can you imagine how you would feel if it was your child or a family member who got picked up dead from under the rubble of the buildings, suffocated until death?

            Can you imagine how the survivors feel about it? I'm sure they will look for peace with these non-humans who killed their children.

            This is a war crime, this is terrorism that no religion or race would accept. It's a stain on our collective humanity and a dark mark on the conscience of those who perpetrate it or accept it.

            What do you expect?

            I expect ZERO children killed, no justification at all.

            These non-human killed children in three weeks more than the total number killed in conflict zones since 2019. https://www.savethechildren.org/us/about-us/media-and-news/2…

            I also expect full protection to all civilian, women and elders regardless to their race or religion.

      • rightguy on 31/10/2023 - 13:46
        +1

        Have you looked at the information Hamas has released on the 7000 dead? So yes there's 3000 children and when you look at the names of those children it's like 50/50 girls and boys. But then when you remove the children and look only at the adults there are clearly far more men dying than women - it's like 7 out of every 10 deaths are men. Which is weird in a population that is basically 50/50 men and women. Clearly there's some reason why those numbers are skewing and that's again if you take Hamas' data at face value. My best guess is that that data skewing in that direction seems to indicate that Israel is killing Hamas members and not just civilians as otherwise you'd expect a 50/50 split between women and men. But that's just my best guess looking at Hamas' released reports. Not to say that civilians aren't being killed but it at least gives some argument that maybe Israel is doing some reasonable job in trying to target male combatants and not just carpet bombing civilians as one narrative seems to want to portray.

      • CowFrogHorse on 09/11/2023 - 17:34
        -1

        Poison: Hamas is not Palestine. It is a terrorist group FROM Palestine.

        cow: You can play word games, but from recent events they are the same. No self respecting government can allow a large plot of land to just attack them with rockets all the time.

        Poison: If you think Israel is targeting Hamas, you are mistaken.

        cow: says who - you ?

        Poison: Israel just needed this excuse to do what they've been wanting to do for almost 8 decades: completely cleanse the land of all Palestinians.

        cow: can you tell me how many Palestinians live in Israel outside the west bank and gaza today ?

        There are arabs in the israeli parliament, …

    • PuppieWayne on 31/10/2023 - 03:14
      +11

      Explain the 1.6m Palestinian living in Israel then.. and 0 Jews in Gaza.

      • Almost Banned on 31/10/2023 - 15:27
        +3

        Including sitting in the Knesset and on the Supreme Court.

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