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[Refurb] Dell Wyse 5070 Thin Client Pentium Silver J5005 1.5GHz 8GB 32GB EMMC No OS $59 Delivered @ Metrocom

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[Refurb] Dell Wyse 5070 Thin Client Pentium Silver J5005 1.5GHz 8GB 32GB EMMC No OS $59 Delivered @ Metrocom
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MarketingMetroCom on 06/02/2024 - 15:22 metrocom.com.au (3445 clicks)

Hi All got a good number of this thin client with 10W 4 cores CPU, which is ideal for home assistant.

Processor
1x Intel(R) Pentium(R) Silver J5005 CPU @ 1.50GHz
Memory
2x 4GB DDR4 2400mhz
Operating System
No OS installed (Windows 10 IoT Enterprises License embedded in the bios)
Hard Drive
1x 32GB SSD
Wireless Network
N/A
Ports
1x Ethernet; 3x integrated Display Port; 5 USB 3.1; 2x USB 2.0; 1 DC power In; Global Headset/Mic Audion Jack; 1 USB 3.1 Gen1(Type C); 1x COM port
Graphics
1x Intel® UHD Graphics 605

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Jun

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  • kogi on 06/02/2024 - 15:31
    +3

    Is there also a m.2 SATA 2280 ?

    Excellent machines, I have a couple of them already.

    • MarketingMetroCom @ metrocom on 06/02/2024 - 15:41

      The 32gb ssd is m.2.

      • kogi on 06/02/2024 - 15:42
        +2

        you desc says 32GB EMMC

        • bdl on 06/02/2024 - 15:56

          don't these units also have soldered eMMC as well as the m2?

          • Associatedpearcekk @ metrocom on 06/02/2024 - 17:18

            @bdl: It's an 2280 m.2 SSD inside the machine. I believe it only can replaced by a m.2 sata one

      • TightLikeThisx on 06/02/2024 - 18:14
        +1

        Are you sure about this?

        Description on this says EMMC and the listing on ebay which looks like the same offering says EMMC as well.

        Also do this have wifi?

    • lookin4guuddeals on 06/02/2024 - 19:54

      What's the use of a couple of these?

      • kogi on 06/02/2024 - 19:57
        +2

        TV Boxes and Thin clients.

        I have them in my dusty warehouse so I can rdp into my pc in the airconned office.

        If they had m.2 nvme, they would be perfect. But sadly only m.2 sata.

        • sob baget on 06/02/2024 - 22:05

          What do you run on it to use it as a TV box?

          • kogi on 07/02/2024 - 06:59
            +1

            @sob baget: lol, windows 10.

            I started mum on keyboard and mouse and haven't changed

      • Chandler on 07/02/2024 - 14:42

        Cluster processing is another use case. Use software like Proxmox or kubernetes to operate multiple of these units to run services.

        • skillet on 07/02/2024 - 15:54
          -1

          And kill the SSD in no time with proxmox log writes?

          • plague69 on 08/02/2024 - 10:32

            @skillet: I run proxmox on an m.2 sata. Over 2 years no issues… Should I be worried?

            • bdl on 08/02/2024 - 12:31

              @plague69: Not at all

              • skillet on 17/02/2024 - 10:26

                @bdl: Really? Try clustering and zfs and watch the SSD TBW get eaten up.

      • WSDtightwad on 07/02/2024 - 20:52

        Great for anything that doesn't need a lot of pixel pushing power. Cheaper than a Pi and can do much more.

        Setup as a dedicated P2P box, streamer box, home assistant and pihole server all in one?

        Kids need some non-gaming pc's? This will still do Roblox and stardew valley just fine too.

  • jong on 06/02/2024 - 15:35

    Does that have a PCIE slot on the back? Because looking online, some do and some don't.

    • MarketingMetroCom @ metrocom on 06/02/2024 - 15:40
      +3

      Hi just had a look, it doesn't.

      • jong on 06/02/2024 - 15:42
        +3

        Thanks, mate.

        The ones with PCIE slots are worth a bit because with a four port NIC they make for great homelab firewalls.

        • misu p on 06/02/2024 - 15:44
          +5

          You are searching for the Thick version of this, much harder to find and much more expensive.

        • gadget on 06/02/2024 - 16:37

          You can add a second nic in place of the wifi card.

        • flock on 06/02/2024 - 23:23
          +1

          The extended has a fan which makes it less desirable for me. My 5070 with SFP sits in a dusty old cupboard.

  • Geekomatic on 06/02/2024 - 15:38

    Also would like to know if these have the M.2 slot.

    • MarketingMetroCom @ metrocom on 06/02/2024 - 15:41
      +2

      yes it does has one m.2 slot for ssd and one for wifi card.

    • GordonD on 06/02/2024 - 15:54
      +8

      You should be aware that the M.2 slot is not an M.2 NVMe slot, but an M.2 SATA slot.

  • mistericho on 06/02/2024 - 15:39

    will this run ubuntu ok?

    • ESEMCE on 06/02/2024 - 15:41
      +2

      server yes.
      desktop, not really ideal

    • kogi on 06/02/2024 - 15:46
      +2

      Yes, I have one running windows on my 4k tv. plays media files fine. will drop a few frames in 4k youtube

    • 3d3e3fae on 06/02/2024 - 22:57

      This is what I have (to be exact, mint) - when I connected this to a 4K TV the lag is pretty bad. But with a 1080p screen it is fine.
      Expect frame drops on YouTube even for 1080p@60fps on av1 - as most browsers don't have hardware acceleration on Linux - also high CPU usage.
      Playing media files via VLC or mpv is a lot better (H.264 / H.265) - somehow they can tap into the HW acceleration.

  • S7iCkSt3R on 06/02/2024 - 15:39

    Thanks, bought one to start my Home Assistant journey. Does anyone have any recommendations on what to start with? Currently have all my light bulbs integrated with Google Home, have multiple Chromecasts, Google TVs, Nest Doorbell, Nest Minis, Nest Hubs and a Nest Hub Max and battery cams and floodlight cams through Eufy.

    • Stuj on 06/02/2024 - 15:44
      +6

      Use local tuya for local control, and buy any new items that are Zigbee (Ali express is a great cheap source) , get a controller like a conbee II and you are away…. The rest of the stuff will have integrations, i dont own nest so not sure with those…. Good luck

      • mathew42 on 06/02/2024 - 16:55
        +3

        There is a new Smart Life Integration maintained by the official Tuya Developer Team, however it is in beta and not all devices are supported.

        • Stuj on 06/02/2024 - 17:49
          +2

          Yes I saw that, it should make things easier if indeed it does no longer need to go out to the cloud. I’m a fan of still being able to function when the internet goes down.

    • Leho on 06/02/2024 - 17:14
      +1

      Start with Zigbee, don’t bother with wifi, just wasting money :)

      • S7iCkSt3R on 06/02/2024 - 17:41
        +1

        My bulbs are all Tuya already as they were easiest to set up (no hub required), have around 20 of them. Kinda too late now to switch to Zigbee, don't wanna spend more money on devices, wife won't be happy.
        My question was more around what projects or automations would people first start with?

        • Leho on 06/02/2024 - 17:44
          +2

          Buy some zigbee “scene switchers” from aliexpress, and a zigbee dongle for zigbee2mqtt and have buttons around the house for light on off brightness etc.. ikea sells some really good zigbee stuff

          • Stuj on 06/02/2024 - 17:51
            +1

            @Leho: This! I live in a unit with no neutral in the walls so this is my only choice. Ikea Zigbee bulbs work a treat

          • HunterBargainHunter on 06/02/2024 - 18:28

            @Leho: You still need to be online for the bulbs to respond
            Unless local tuya I suppose

      • klaw81 on 06/02/2024 - 20:29
        +1

        Not all WiFi devices are created equally. I have a ton of WiFi devices running Tasmota - they're typically more reliable than my Zigbee stuff.

        • Leho on 06/02/2024 - 20:53
          +1

          Esphome and tasmota are the exceptions, I’m saying no wifi because 95% of people that want a smart home don’t have expertise in either flashing or creating their own IOT devices :)

          • bdl on 06/02/2024 - 21:15
            +1

            @Leho: or have crappy access point infrastructure :)

      • jong on 07/02/2024 - 00:03

        My LIFX and Shelly gear would disagree.

        • Chandler on 07/02/2024 - 15:18

          Those two are the best vendors to use for that argument but.

          LIFX is also no longer at the price point it used to be - its now comparable to Philips Hue in price, and IMO at that price I'd go with Hue over LIFX, purely due to the WiFi.

          • jong on 07/02/2024 - 15:31

            @Chandler: Keep an eye on Amazon, because my LIFX bulbs come out to about half the price of my Hue ones.

            Hue have better light (LIFX LEDs seem to be one wavelength of RGB each, whereas Hue seems to have more of a spread) but LIFX are cheaper, and I like just using wifi to connect them.

  • bdl on 06/02/2024 - 15:41
    +3

    Are these fanless? I'm a big fan of fanless.

    • kogi on 06/02/2024 - 15:43
      +4

      If it's the same as the 2 I have.Yes, fanless. Should also have 1 x m.2 , no sata, no pcie.

    • MarketingMetroCom @ metrocom on 06/02/2024 - 15:43
      +4

      Yep.

      • scrimshaw on 06/02/2024 - 16:55

        Just FYI your payments system has crashed and users are not able to place orders.

      • Poor Ass on 06/02/2024 - 17:17
        -1

        they don't get hot?

    • chiprillis on 06/02/2024 - 15:44
      +2

      Does that make you fanless of fans too?

      • bdl on 06/02/2024 - 15:46
        +4

        It's fantastic that I'm a fan of fanless whether that would fan out to having fantasies of being fanless of a fan, I can only say I am a fanatic.

        Now to decide if I want to migrate my HA install from a VM to bare metal

  • bdl on 06/02/2024 - 15:44
    +7

    https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/wyse/5070/ wowsers at the SFP :D

    • banana365 on 06/02/2024 - 16:01
      +2

      Far out, that would have been so useful to me back in the day when I was helping develop these things for a major IT company. We had so many customers saying they needed to stick them somewhere on their own, well over 100m from anywhere and with minimal additional infrastructure. Fibre to the thin client would have solved that straight off. Mind you, back then an SFP would have cost even more than the thin client rather than the $40/50 you can get them for now.

  • exile on 06/02/2024 - 16:16
    +2

    Can't Checkout. Paypal returns a JSON error also

    • banana365 on 06/02/2024 - 16:19
      +4

      I'm not even getting that far. It just spins after entering the address details. @metrocom any chance of just updating the price on your eBay store?

      • tombarbera on 06/02/2024 - 17:29

        Now that I've decided I need one, I'm terrified that the site will start working again and they'll sell out, so I'll keep periodically refreshing… (probably not helping the site issues)

        • MarketingMetroCom @ metrocom on 06/02/2024 - 17:40
          +1

          Hi just fixed.

  • Nerdybobo on 06/02/2024 - 16:17

    Im using the older model 5060 for HA and its been rock solid for a good couple of years. Nice little machine. Might upgrade to this. Also i think if i recall right debian is the official supported OS which a quick search on the interwebs suggest it is:
    https://www.home-assistant.io/more-info/unsupported/os/
    Im sure any linux distro should be fine as long as it has the right dependencies

    • gadget on 06/02/2024 - 16:36
      +1

      The 5070 pentium is way better than the 5060.

      This is a great deal. It was 3x the price during covid. Put proxmox on it and run HAOS on a VM.

      • Nerdybobo on 06/02/2024 - 19:13

        Yeah i can imagine but ive had no issues and it runs pretty decent. I guess its all pretty light weight stuff that my ha is doing so nothing resource intensive. Even have pihole running side by side with it.
        Was thinking of upgrading to this because of how cheap it is though. Could retire the old 5060.
        Any specific reason you ran it on proxmox?

        • gadget on 06/02/2024 - 19:52
          +1

          I run a few VMs to segregate functionality so proxmox was the obvious choice with plenty of community support. Pretty easy to use and back up each VM

      • flock on 07/02/2024 - 10:17

        Just a FIY for those thinking of using this with Proxmox, the Realtek NIC is r8168 but Proxmox installs r8169 drivers by default which is flaky and unreliable. You need to blacklist the r8169 module, then download kernal headers and build the r8168-dkms module.

  • opposablethumbs on 06/02/2024 - 16:20

    What's the ball park power consumption likely to be on these for simple Home Assist setup?

    • bdl on 06/02/2024 - 16:29
      +6

      < 10W :D

  • Ultima-weapon on 06/02/2024 - 16:21
    +1

    I'm running TrueNAS on mine with the m.2 SATA port (NVME is not supported). Happy little media storage box, incredibly low power use and a nice form factor. $60 is a great price imo! It's a shame no Nvme, as sata drives are far worse and have no future, but are similarly priced per GB. Mine has a J4105 which is slightly lower clocked than the one on offer, and is running 16 + 8 GB SODIMMs.

    Very competitive against the ubiquitous Amazon N95 or N100 pcs from $200+

    • bdl on 06/02/2024 - 16:30
      +3

      How do you have your storage configured? Breaking sata out from m2 slot?

      • Ultima-weapon on 06/02/2024 - 23:04

        It's just the m.2 port (check the nice review in a url linked in another comment for size support). So it doesn't support cable SATA with the seperate power cable, but SATA spec communication over m.2.

        TrueNAS is installed on the onboard flash storage, so it should be easy enough to change storage drives whenever. Sadly only one drive slot, so no ZFS fancy stuff.

        • TightLikeThisx on 07/02/2024 - 05:33
          +1

          Even if you have a single disk you can still perfrom snapshots and send/receive them to other systems.

          Also if you enable copies=2 then that helps with file integrity. Its like a poor mans 2x mirror.

          Doing so halves your storage and doesnt protect you against a single drive failure but thats why we have backups.

          • bdl on 07/02/2024 - 23:06

            @TightLikeThisx: Yeah that's exactly how I've got my old Optiplex SFF 3570s set up

    • xtommyk on 07/02/2024 - 08:50

      whats the power usage?

  • Panpanw on 06/02/2024 - 16:38

    Does it work for AV1?

    • 3d3e3fae on 06/02/2024 - 21:56

      On what res? I watch YouTube on this CPU with AV1 codec, 1080p @ 30fps definitely no problem even with software decoding.

    • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 06/02/2024 - 22:14
      -1

      Doubt it

  • Mortgagetightass on 06/02/2024 - 16:40

    How would this go for Plex server? and have my drives mounted elsewhere?

    • bdl on 06/02/2024 - 16:42
      +1

      Honestly you may as well go for one of the other cheapy 7500+ SFF machines when they become available

      • Mortgagetightass on 06/02/2024 - 16:43

        dont those use 3x the power?

        • bdl on 06/02/2024 - 20:04

          if you get a -T model it won't use as much power as a non-T version and you can do way more with the cpu that is available (not to mention install additional storage should you need to in future)

  • sc00terMcTav on 06/02/2024 - 16:50
    +5

    Hay OP, I'm having some issues with buying some of these.
    I tried 4x browsers and two internet connections all having issues.
    There might be something on your end, just thought I would let you know.

    • banana365 on 06/02/2024 - 17:00
      +5

      Definitely their end as a few of us are having that issue. Perhaps it's an anti-impulse buy measure?

    • MarketingMetroCom @ metrocom on 06/02/2024 - 17:38
      +1

      Hi just fixed.

      • sc00terMcTav on 06/02/2024 - 19:18

        Thanks mate, just ordered 2x

  • tombarbera on 06/02/2024 - 17:14
    +2

    I was looking at Tiny PCs (e.g. Lenovo) to run a home automation server, and stumbled onto this on eBay… Then checked out the website and realised it's even cheaper there , came to OzB to post it as a deal, and realised it already was one - always start at OzBargain!

    • tombarbera on 06/02/2024 - 17:18

      Update: can't buy it! Checkout hates me (and others). Please take my money (or update the price on eBay?)

      • MarketingMetroCom @ metrocom on 06/02/2024 - 17:38
        +4

        Hi just fixed.

  • ChatCPT on 06/02/2024 - 17:19
    +6

    beats raspberry Pi

  • v00d00 AU on 06/02/2024 - 18:01

    Went to order and was told that it doesn't not ship to address (SA) is this correct or another bug?

    Edit: now getting (the reported) json errors

  • tonka on 06/02/2024 - 18:45

    Me having no idea, how much hassle is it to get the operating system installed?

    • S7iCkSt3R on 06/02/2024 - 23:54
      +1

      It only comes with a 32GB SSD, which is way too small if you're looking to use it with Windows. Maybe you could load a lite version or a different OS and be ok to use it just to browse the web. Installing an OS is as easy as downloading it onto an empty USB stick from another computer, plugging it in, and following the prompts on the BIOS. I'm sure there are many walkthroughs if you Google it.

    • ju2au on 07/02/2024 - 11:38
      +1

      As stated in product description, it comes with Windows 10 IoT embedded in the BIOS.

      From what I saw on a couple of YouTube videos, you just have to boot it up, press the F12 key on keyboard to activate the embedded software and install Windows 10 IoT on the included 32GB SSD. 32GB is the minimum needed to install Windows 10 IoT.

      From what I understand, most of the programs/apps that run on normal Windows 10 should run fine on Windows 10 IoT.

  • bdl on 06/02/2024 - 19:07
    +8

    latest bios released today, to celebrate this sale price: https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-au/drivers/driversdetai…

    and manual here: https://dl.dell.com/content/manual60257551-dell-wyse-5070-th…

    • ASA on 06/02/2024 - 19:41

      Nice one!

  • zihengg on 06/02/2024 - 19:11

    Can this thing play Roblox ? Thinking to get one for the TV so the kids can play Roblox.

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