Xiaomi Electric Scooter 4 $499 + Delivery (Varies by Postcode) @ Panmi

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An all time low price on the Xiaomi Scooter 4 with Password Lock reduced to clear from Panmi. This is a good option if you want something decent for a bit of fun, shorter commutes or something for the teens to ride. Especially since it's from Xiaomi/Segway and not some generic rebrand from China which has a good chance of snapping from inferior build quality.

  • Apply the coupon Boss Special (space included) at checkout

Featuring a 300W front motor with 600W max power, up to 35km range, 3 speed modes with up to 25km/h speed, front eABS + rear dual disc brakes, 10" tubeless tyres, password locking, suitable for riders up to 110kg and can be connected to the Mi Home app via Bluetooth for settings, locking etc.

Delivery will depend on your post code, i.e. $39 or $79.

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Comments

  • +18

    Here in NSW it's still illegal to use on public roads. Got a feeling it won't be legalised within the next 5 years. I hope they either build more car parks near train stations or provide adequete infrastructure for these to be legalised.

    • +20

      NSW is so backwards with their scooter laws. It's pretty ridiculous.

      • +12

        The ridiculousness of NSW also expand to the banning of using CarPlay with provisional license driver.

        • If only they called it CarDrive…

    • +14

      Theft is a big problem for escooters they are a magnet for junkies & scumbags. I don't ever see you being able to park one at a train station and it being still there when you get back.

      • +2

        True… those youth crimes… government unable to do anything

        • +13

          Not unable. Weak and refuse to. People need to think about how they vote if they dont like societal developments.

        • +2

          government choose not to do anything

          FTFY

          These problems are all solvable, you just need leadership with a spine.

          • +3

            @1st-Amendment: Actually, it's quite simple to discourage teenagers from engaging in negative behavior. By imposing harsh penalties on a select few who repeatedly misbehave and publicizing these consequences on social media, it will make others think twice about doing the same.

            • -1

              @McMaferMur: Isn't that what we have been doing since federation? Media has been full of it. Since forever.

              Good luck hoping stricter laws on future generations will make the changes needed now. Social Media is way ahead and making billions from society and all its legacy systems, hopes, and aspirations.

              When such perps don't give a rats about current and new laws they won't know or care about, at some point during their marvellous career (by misadventure or otherwise), get collared by law enforcement (as this is mostly how it happens). countless will have been created. Most of those will be oblivious to their inspiration's improbable demise… and continue to grow the 'crime wave'.

              That is why such laws don't work. The math doesn't even begin to stack up. You'd have to catch one for every other they inspire.

              Like banning drugs, it's a loser's game, and the losers are everyone.

              Our pollies will continue to line up behind new laws as every time they do they can gain power without risking losing anything. And the biggest cost borne by the latest generation of perps and eshays, who like all those who came before them, have nowhere to live, and little to eat or learn, other than what a future of dependence, abuse and crime brings.

              So 'stack' the math, even a sum like that isn't simple or sexy enough to get a pollie elected, so they (continue to) run tired old interference arguments, which if dramatic enough can get them into their own chosen career. Yet their kind of crime pays well enough to need multiple trusts, children, houses, overseas accounts.

              And we let them call that 'service', not crime.

              Not long to a armies of Robocops, to help burgeoning ranks of law enforcement we'll be 'needing to keep us safe' will make that a given. Sighs. At least they can be re-purposed to protect what's left of the rich, or rather, the AI-based freedom fighters who can be instantiated by foreign states, their competition, alien life forms, sentient code, you name it.

              Not long for our human civilisation either, many say.

              Either way, 'Leadership with a spine' would have evolved beyond increasing penalties, surveillance, and locking people up by now. It would have begun working on more than root causes of crime. We went from a convict colony to this without deciding on the right mix of carrot and stick- let alone educating malfeasance out of our children (or ourselves). Good government would have prevented what is causing the waves of crime, pollution, degradation, we now face. Instead opportunity could have been the problem.

              What we need is more education, responsibility, not 7+ governments of lawyers who can't change a lightbulb for the love of lying everyone blind in their darkness.

              So many of us, let alone the perps, now present with utter despondence. They descend into a life of judgement by those who have everything and seemingly share so little. Whilst the majority of us continue to judge and ignore the causes, the greed, the flood of interests and influence, especially those which we have created through our support, or perhaps worse, complicity.

              Apologies for the rant!

              Now back to charging my new scooter. Does not declaring it specifically in my policy void my home insurance and risk my fibro castle in Stinksville?

              • -1

                @resisting the urge:

                That is why such laws don't work. The math doesn't even begin to stack up.

                What math? You forgot to provide any.

                Human behaviour is well understood. There must be consequences for actions. Punishment for bad behaviour and reward for good behaviour. If there are no consequences for bad behaviour you will simply get more of it. This is why youth crime is on the rise.
                The solution is simple, you just need leadership that is willing to enforce it.

                • @1st-Amendment: Agree with you. There are always bad apples on the tree, we need to be firm with them. Now we see kids get bails repeatedly on news, they bragging to their fiends on tiktok.

                  We lock few for good, make them regret, do live interviews on tv from jail, show other what happen if they do it. Then it will stop. Those kids are chicken in heart, but need strong hand, not forgiveness.

                • @1st-Amendment: Perhaps the math provided as a formula will help:

                  More law and more consequences for breaking them + Ignorance (no idea of laws other than learning they are bad, and how to avoid getting caught) = No benefit to anyone.

                  Or more accurately: More law + more consequences created by any gov = more costs + impact on everyone + more kids in jail + more trained perps (since jail trains perps better than it reforms them) thus creating more input, increasing costs and impacts exponentially. We can't afford the present jail system, let alone the costs of crime, the loss in productivity/GDP, and the cost on society of condemning people instead of reforming them.

                  Young people don't learn the laws before breaking them, nor find out about new ones (until it's too late). So they will follow their noses into crime no matter how much penalties are increased.

                  Young perps sent to jail = More professional criminals + more cost. If it goes on long enough, the proportion of people in jail (think of it like criminal university) reaches a tipping point where there are more criminals than law-abiding individuals paying for them.

                  • @resisting the urge:

                    More law and more consequences for breaking them + Ignorance (no idea of laws other than learning they are bad, and how to avoid getting caught) = No benefit to anyone.

                    That seems to conflict with every example ever that I can think of throughout history. I'm not sure planet you're on that you think not enforcing laws reduces crime. Do you have any real-world examples of this bizarre theory?

                    • @1st-Amendment: Spend 30 mins at a local courthouse, or with some cops.

                      Your perception of the ability of the average law-breaking citizen (or even the ones caught up for the first time) to reason or quantify risk, even personal risk, or temper that with a risk assessment of low likely it is that they might get caught, or not be able to weasel out, or escape- physically, or otherwise,

                      Forget critical thinking, these people are fighting themselves too, day in, day out. And also, understand the bleak options many of them have. Quadrupling the extent of the society's criminal laws will make little to no difference to the thinking of millions at the bottom, and probably only 20% of the rest of us. The top 20% included, as they can pay lawyers to Deny, Deflect, Divide, and evade- and configure the laws in such way as to make themselves untouchable.

                      • @resisting the urge:

                        Spend 30 mins at a local courthouse, or with some cops.

                        You forgot to provide any examples of your crazy theory in action. According you the logic that you provided, not putting people in prison would reduce crime. Can you show me anywhere on earth at any time in history where this has happened?

            • @McMaferMur:

              Actually, it's quite simple to…

              I know, that's what I said…

      • some trains might allow you to carry them on board. i know that some buses won't allow any battery powered vehicle

        • I can understand this with electric scooters. We still have yet to develop fire fighting containment methods for lithium battery fires. Plenty of people still carry battery power banks, laptop batteries, and other devices that probably carry a similar risk. I used to transport unrestricted explosives on the train/bus in the 2000s 😂 for hobby use only.

          • +3

            @cobknob: You forgot to add people carry samsung phones too in bus

          • +1

            @cobknob: Not really a similar risk. 480WH vs like 45 in a laptop. 10x the potential energy release.

      • Don't you guys have bike shelters at train stations? I'm not sure if we are allowed to park escooters in them (WA), but they are enclosed and require smartrider access to enter.

        New escooters (I have a segway e2 pro) have apple find my built in as well. Would that not discourage theft?

        • +1

          They just cut a hole in the side of the bike cage at my station and took my scooter. Bike cages don't provide that much security unfortunately.

      • The litelock cant be cut with a portable angle grinder, so it solves this issue

        • So you need to buy a $300 lock for a $499 scooter ?

          • @jmc787: I bought the $1000 one but yes

      • +1

        Take it on the train

      • People are parking them at the station?! We're in a stabbyvillie and no one locks up/or has bikes anywhere visable here.

    • Illegal in South Australia too.

      • Some parklands in the city you can ride them.

        • I don't think so. Only the hire ones are legal. Private e-scooters are not.

          • +3

            @khrome: Sometime "early 2025" that's expected to change in SA.

            • +3

              @Clear: Yeh legislations have passed, they just now need to act on them.

              • +2

                @TomGum: At this rate it'll be late 2025 to next year haha

    • +9

      So they should be, otherwise advertise as "1 in 3 wins tragic death or permanent injury".

      Even though they shouldn't be, I already see so many silly teenagers scooting at high speed amongst traffic, or in carparks, often even with no helmets, I've nearly hit a kid in a carpark just backing out when no one was there and out of no where, a kid wearing dark clothing at dusk and no helmet and no lights who must have been doing over 40km/hr in a carpark was zooming past weaving around just behind me. Saw more weaving on the road at high speed just this weekend crossing centre lines and going wrong way up a street etc on and off the verge randomly, and last year my colleagues all witnessed the death of a middle aged man riding on the road outside our construction site on an e-scooter using it to commute as he didn't have a licence.

      So damn dangerous, another girl killed in regional Queensland again this easter weekend.

      They are hard to see as not much to them, go way too fast for the low visibility and poor lighting with just a person standing behind a stick, no requirement for high vis clothing even - people zoom around doing silly things where cars won't see them and the poor driver will be to blame when they inevitably run into one. Keep them the FARK off the roads. I don't want a death on my conscience. I never thought I'd say this, but you'd be safer on a motorbike.

    • There are still a bunch of people riding their scooters on footpaths. I’ve never heard of any accidents caused by scooters, yet they say it's dangerous for pedestrians lol.

      • +1

        It definifely happens, likely not enough damage to end up on the news. People will drive anything like idiots, given the chance. A quick google shows a pedestrian hit in bondi last month who required paramedic assistance. Lucky it wasnt an older frail person.

      • A quick google shows how wrong you are, see the comments below
        Also the rental scooters in Melbourne were terrible I work in a supermarket and the amount of young riders, with no helmets riding fast on the footpath, swerving in-between pedestrians was extremely common. They also had no 3rd party insurance so when they hit someone it's hard for the victim to get compensation.

        I am glad the mayor banned them in the Melbourne CBD.
        This only leaves the bigger illegal scooters ridden by two types of peoples
        - Responsible adults (and occasional kids) who wear proper gear and don't speed on footpaths
        - Junkies, etc .. still better then rental scooters, but they steal

    • +1

      Got a feeling it won't be legalised within the next 5 years

      What's more surprising is that even though the government are clearly useless at most things, so many people want them to be in control of more and more things in their lives.

      I asked NSW Transport about the electric scooters about 7 years ago when they first became popular and was told they were working on a policy. 7 years later they still say they are 'exploring options'. Public servants are the most useless people on the planet.

      • +1

        I think you got it wrong.

        The government made it illegal in public place in NSW. Where the law enforcement can flex their power on all scooter riders in public place. Wanting the legalisation of something that they banned mean more options to the slave people.

        Australia from what I know, is known internationally as a nanny state. We are propagandised so much that we think it good to restrict other choice for our so called protection.

        • I think you got it wrong.

          Nothing you wrote disagrees with anything I said.

          • +1

            @1st-Amendment: Just that it not surprising at all with the slave people wanting more oversight/control of everyone lives. Propaganda is done from an early age. Never stopping and through different avenue. Repetition works.

            Government aren't incompetent. It's by design.

            Legalising is btw them given us limited permission. Even if it allows us more options, they shouldn't even have so such power in the first place. I know I prefer legalisation over outright ban at this stage.

            I understand your view too and we tend to be in alignment and wanting less government involvement I believe.

  • +2

    Tech for sure is advanced and good to see more people benefit from it. However, escooters should ride very carefully and consciously as just yesterday an idiot ute driver hit and killed an escooter.

    • +2

      an idiot ute driver hit and killed an escooter.

      Looks like the rider also died. 😔

      https://7news.com.au/news/teenage-e-scooter-rider-killed-in-…

      "The male driver of the Ford utility was not injured"

      The fatal crash comes days after 12-year-old Summah Richards was killed while riding an e-scooter about 3pm Saturday on Vaux St in Laidley, regional Queensland, after colliding with a Holden Barina.
      https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/teenager-dead…

    • +1

      I try to drive very safely. I've had near misses with scooters doing silly things several times now.
      The scooters are too dangerous, too hard to see and go too fast for a person just standing behind a handlebar often not following road rules and not coming from where you'd expect vehicles to be or look like - see my comments above.

    • +3

      you talking about the 12 year old? she lost control and fell in front of a car. same thing could and has happened on a bike

      • +1

        Admittedly I'm not a twelve year old, but I can control a bike far, far more safely than a scooter. Bike has bigger wheels that handle bumps and far more effective braking. And cyclists are higher up and more visible. I have owned both. I will commute on a bike, I won't commute on a scooter.

        • +6

          but I can

          But it's not just about you, people fall off bikes, people fall off scooters, people fall off ladders, people even fall over just walking.
          Because some people fall off things is no reason to inflict the nanny state on everyone.

    • Why was the driver the idiot?

  • +22

    suitable for riders up to 110kg

    Excludes most OzBargainers then…

    • Giga kek

  • The codes Boss or Special doesnt work for me. Is it working for you?

    • +4

      The coupon is Boss Special Unfortunately the coupon box on OzBargain doesn't recognise spaces in codes.

      • Thank you bought one, i didnt read the post thoroughly.

  • +10

    Discount code reading like a kebab order special

    • +2

      I'm thinking of Spanian and his kebabs now.

      Boss special? Cuz that better come with garlic sauce and a pepsi cuz

      • +1

        high pitch sounds MWAH DONT TOUCH ME!

  • +3

    Tempted to get one for my partner's commute—how does this stack up against the Segway Ninebot E2? Both skip suspension, but is that a dealbreaker? Also eyeing the Evercross EV85F on Amazon (decent reviews). Any advice? I can’t satisfy her on the bed, at least I can nail the commute. 😅

    • +2

      10.5ah Battery and 10cm wheels vs 7.6Ah and 8.5cm.

      • Little wheels! ( Clearly a typo 😊) But seriously are there any scooters with bigger than usual wheels? I feel they would be safer and more stable or should I just get a bike?

        • eBikes are definitely better and safer than eScooters, however they are much more expensive and often more illegal.

          Foldable eScooters may be taken onto trains and even though they're not supposed to be, busses.

          It's more convenient to have an upright riding position, especially for women.

        • +2

          In the escooter space the biggest wheels you'll get is 11". Most around 10x2" or 10x3".

  • +1

    I probably shouldn't get one. Anyhoo, how do you pick one that won't burn your house down?

    • +3

      I have a Mearth RS Pro and it hasnt burnt my house down. I would trust Xiaomi and Segway. Wouldnt recommend attempting performance mods or using a non OEM charger no matter what the brand.

    • +1

      I just assume it will catch on fire when charging and charge in appropriate place, I have a house with big garage and yard though, people renting may not have anywhere to charge but in their apartments, and that's the problem.

    • +1

      When it comes to charging escooters and lithium batteries in general it's best to do it when you're home and nearby. I'd never let one charge overnight or if I'm out. I try to do outside or worst case the garage just in case. The likelihood of my house burning down if it's outside is much lower than inside my lounge room.

      • Outside is a good idea, but if it can get rained on- which might cause a fire regardless.

        If inside or even just under-cover, I'm not sure what anyone could do, once one cell in the pack explodes, it's pretty much game-over.

        All anyone seems to be able to do is run (if the pack is inside a building, even small capacity packs can be very dangerous of a cell is unstable or the charger malfunctions)

        • It's common sense to not put a scooter outside to charge in pouring rain.

    • Don't buy cheap no brand chinese batteries, only buy big brand batteries (still made in china) like Bosch
      If you take apart an e-bike battery often they are just a series of 18650 batteries.
      The peace of mind with big brands come from their more rigourous testing.
      - Don't let them charge without supervision

  • +1

    Bought one for some fun

  • +3

    I still have the mi pro 2 from 2021, still working perfectly fine done well over 1000km on it, still gives me 45km range

  • Get the QLD rebates with this?

  • +1

    Why is SA with post code 5000 being charged for $39 delivery?

    • I double checked with Panmi and seems it varies than what's listed on their page. I had one remote address show $79.

  • +2

    hoping for nsw to legalise soon…. also looking for the suspension model

    • +1

      Should we avoid one without suspension like this?

      • imo just make the ride more better

      • Suspension will always make the ride more smooth. Without suspension you should bend your knees when going over bumps or up the kerb ramp from the road to the footpath, as your legs will act like natural suspension. For long riding sessions it'll make a lot of difference in how you feel, especially if you're not used to riding.

        • I imagine suspension would increase the longevity of the powertrain as well.

  • New to scooter, though if anyone know / experience if it may be stolen if park outside supermarket or shops?

    • +6

      Escooters are a massive magnet for the crackheads and other thieving degenerates. Even if you put a lock on it they'll try to cut through it. For these smaller Xiaomi/Segway scooters I'd fold them up and stick them in a trolley at the supermarket.

    • +3

      It’s like if you park it in public for 20 mins, you get 100% chance that it is stolen, the password lock can be easily reset btw.

    • +2

      Yes it will be stolen. They have battery powered angle grinders that can cut through almost anything.

      • some expensive u-locks ($400+) will resist electric grinders. They might take six or seven discs on the angle grinder to get through which means the battery on the angle grinder would be flat.
        But they are HEAVY and very expensive

  • Been wanting a good deal on an escooter for a while now, thanks OP

  • $79 postage Perth Metro

  • Bit the bullet with the $39 delivery fee. Will have to dispute later. Didn’t want this being sold out.

  • $599 delivered on Amazon and +$15 shipping on Bunnings

    I copied and pasted a link from Amazon as usual but marked as unallowed link this time. Weird.

    Lots of 40Km/h scooters for under $400 on ebay. Not sure of the quality…

  • Only 25kmh max speed. Any way to make these faster?

    • +3

      Older Xiaomi/Segway scooters could be reflashed with custom firmware very easily with a phone. With later models that's no longer the case. The only solution I've found is this blog in German where it's done using special tools to interface with the controller directly and it's really not worth it.

      For an out of the box faster scooter you'd have to double your budget. Something like the Dragon Cruiser for $999 will go 40km/hr with plenty of better options $1200+

      • Dragon scooters looks interesting plenty power but poor range. Rather see something that goes 35km/h max but double the range 120km than 60 and 55km.

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