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[Refurb] Dell PowerEdge T440 Server Xeon Gold 6140, 128GB RAM, 2x 960GB SSD, 6x 4TB HDD $990 Delivered @ ACT Networks

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Hi Ozbargain,

Not sure how many homelabbers are lurking here, but we have quite a few refurbished Dell PowerEdge T440 servers available. Would make a solid server for anyone looking to build or expand their homelab with enterprise grade hardware.

Specs:

  • CPU: 1x Intel Gold 6140 (18C/36T, 2.3GHz base / 3.7GHz turbo)
  • RAM: 128GB DDR4 (4x32GB)
  • Storage: 2x 960GB SATA SSD + 6x 4TB SAS HDD
  • RAID Card: H730 Hardware RAID
  • Remote Access: iDRAC Enterprise
  • PSU: Redundant Dual 495W
  • Condition: Used, may have minor marks or scratches
  • Dimensions: 46 x 22 x 60cm (HxWxD)

Perfect for running Proxmox, TrueNAS, Jellyfin.

By default they will have a H730 Hardware RAID card but you can choose a HBA330 when adding to cart if you want to use ZFS or another software RAID solution.

The website will show the price as $1,100 for the base config but will drop to $990 with an automatic 10% discount when added to the cart.

Delivery is free Australia Wide. Orders will begin shipping from Friday.

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Comments

  • +5

    Hi there,

    Can i ask how old the HDDs are, how many hours and if they are checked for SMART etc?

    • -4

      It's a business seller. They must give some warranty on it

      • +10

        On the "What's Included" page:

        Tower Server
        Power Cable
        Tax Invoice
        12-Month Return to Base Warranty

        • +4

          And that is definitely wrong

                • +15

                  @spaceflight: Consumer guarantees under the ACL cover second hand and refurbished items, stop posting garbage.

                  "Second-hand goods

                  The consumer guarantees apply whether the goods are new, ‘seconds’ or second-hand."

                  "3. Consumer guarantees for goods

                  The consumer guarantees are intended to ensure that you get the product you paid for and that it does
                  what it is meant to do. There are nine guarantees that apply to goods.
                  Acceptable quality
                  There is a guarantee that goods are of acceptable quality if they:
                  ƒ are safe, durable and free from defects
                  ƒ are acceptable in appearance and finish
                  ƒ do everything that they are commonly used for.
                  When deciding whether goods meet this guarantee, you need to consider the nature of the goods,
                  the price, and any information provided directly by the seller or the manufacturer, or on packaging or
                  promotional material.
                  You should also consider how you have used the product. Goods are not expected to be
                  indestructible – for example, if you damage the goods or use goods in an unreasonable or unintended
                  manner, you may not be able to rely on this guarantee to obtain a remedy.
                  Second-hand goods are also covered by the guarantee, but age, price and condition must be taken
                  into account.
                  The guarantee of acceptable quality still applies to imperfect goods or ‘seconds’. Where a seller alerts
                  you to any defects before the purchase, you should inspect before you buy to make sure you are still
                  happy to go ahead. Otherwise you may not be entitled to a remedy."

                  Source: www.accc.gov.au

                  • +1

                    @howcan: There is such a thing as "as is" sale, but even that offers you rights for defects not reasonably immediately apparent at the time of inspection, or defects known but not disclosed. Becomes a grey area. But the blanket statement that nothing applies was certainly bollocks.

                  • -2

                    @howcan:

                    Consumer guarantees under the ACL cover second hand and refurbished items, stop posting garbage.

                    It's not garbage, you just have no idea what you're taking about.

                    A store can legally sell any item they want and offer you zero warranty, the consumer protections are different.

                    And as the items being sold are also 7.5 years old and the ACL considers that

                    age, price and condition must be taken

                    As it's a 7.5 year old computer that's been operating for an assumed 24x7 period your are probably going to get laughed at when you argue it should still last longer because you've only owned it for 12 months.

                    stop posting garbage.

                    Why don't you so that you stop misleading people and don't publicly show that you have no idea what you're talking about.

                    • +2

                      @spaceflight: Agree with the 7.5 year mark - iirc computers useful lifetime is either 3 or 5 years. So anything sold second hand is expected to "work" when you turn it on, but if it fries after (unknown period. a week? a month? 3 months?) then ACL probably wouldn't side with you

                    • +4

                      @spaceflight: Getting downvoted because you understand how ACL works and applies to a 2017 server is peak ozbargain

                      The seller offers 12m on this so it's not even worth arguing.

                      • +1

                        @MetalPhreak: I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with the customers who have downvoted.

                        The 12 months warranty they are offering is very generous when they could offer none

                    • -1

                      @spaceflight: 7.5 years old + Refurbished

                      I don't care what they did or nothing during refurbishment but it's sold as a refurbished unit so it isn't same as pulling some crap out of the IT bin and resell it.

                    • -1

                      @spaceflight:

                      A store can legally sell any item they want and offer you zero warranty, the consumer protections are different.

                      They are essentially the same thing to the consumer, whether they explicitly state an arbitrary warranty period or not, the business still needs to warrant the quality and longevity of the goods under consumer law. There isn't some magical loophole for businesses to sell used and unstated faulty goods to the public with zero responsibility under ACL just because they're X age. In this particular instance the seller has refurbished the product, so there is absolutely extra expectation to the longevity of the product.

                      Why don't you so that you stop misleading people and don't publicly show that you have no idea what you're talking about.

                      I found this highly ironic coming from you, thank you for the laugh :) Please feel free to continue embarrassing yourself.

    • +40

      Checked a couple of the drives and they’ve got a Jan 2018 manufacture date, so they’ve likely been running 24/7 for close to 7.5 years.

      All drives are tested with HD Sentinel for uncorrected sector errors, and there’s a 12-month warranty on the server that also covers the HDDs.

    • wow you can't even buy a NAS with 26tb or storage let along an entire server with storage!!

      • +1

        you could buy a 7 year old NAS with storage for cheaper…

      • +2

        this is going to chew a lot more power, and make more noise and heat than a NAS.

  • +6

    It's not a bad deal apart from the high power usage that these kind of servers have. Could be easily used as a NAS / HomeServer box with plenty of capacity for future years.
    Would be a good buy for someone with cheap/free electricity + solar + getting into home server stuff.

    • +19

      Lot of RAM and cores for a home server and stupidly excessive for a NAS imo.

      There's maybe a niche for this but I wouldn't be buying ahrdware with an unknown run time expecting "plenty of capacity for future years"

      Raid controllers are going to die, the hard drtives themselves are going to die, etc etc

      If I were going to try and do homelab on the cheap with secondhand/refurb.
      Second hand storage off ebay, roll the dice.
      Try to build or buy a Ryzen 7900 system for compute.

      Or just buy a second hand synology if all i wanted was super basic on the compute side.

      • Never thought about a raid controller dying. What do you do to recover your raid if that happens and the raid controller that died doesn't exist to replace it with anymore?

        • +3

          RAID controllers are readily available on the used market. You should be running your RAID controller in HBA or IT mode anyway and using a software RAID solution like ZFS or unraid. Then if your RAID controller dies, you just replace it.

        • run to your backups and say.. pheww!
          but on the other hand depends on what raid config you had. say u were using simple hardware raid… eg 10.. no sweat. lots of raid controllers are smart enough to recognize the foreign drive and check for the raid setting on the drive and will allow you to import it. they say should be similar raid controller… but ive done quite a bit of testing moving drives to dissimilar controllers .ie poweredge to proliant (newer gen10), they were recognized and successfully imported to the hpe svr. Again best practice is have a backup! When i used to work for Payam data rec donkeys ago.. there were recovery software also available to reconstruct Raid 5/6. But is quite time consuming work…

          • @id: pretty much this, sometimes it's fine, but if you need to rebuild the array… you might have data loss which means restore from back up.

        • restore from backup.

      • Just clarifying:

        unknown run time expecting "plenty of capacity for future years"

        I mean that you can buy new drives over time as the current ones die, and there's plenty of slots (8). It's highly unlikely for the CPU/RAM to die, and others have responded about RAID cards. I am a software RAID enjoyer :D

      • There's maybe a niche for this but I wouldn't be buying ahrdware with an unknown run time expecting "plenty of capacity for future years"

        I mean, its a Skylake and a server, so its a pretty easy guess that is has been running for a good 6-7 years straight.

        • Hmm consider my mind changed. I had 10+ year old computers that were still running, but their mobos gave out eventually. Given that these are server grade parts, CPU, mobo or PSU failing would necessitate a pretty big overhaul. I guess there is an higher risk that these would die before 3-4 years usage mark (which in my head is the rough tradeoff for it to be worth it), so yeh I feel like this is much less of a deal than I originally envisioned

      • I'm building a VM server for a home lab and def want that memory.
        I don't think I could build my own for anywhere near that price??
        I should be able to swap out harddrives as they fail??

        You say the raid controllers are going to die. Should I take that HBA330 option? (I have no idea what hardware raid is about.)

        Looking for serious feedback. Seems to be an opportunity too good to miss, don't want to make a mistake.

        • +1

          Software RAID should allow an array of drives to be reconstructed on another software-RAID system, if the controller dies. A hardware RAID failure will likely have you looking for another hardware RAID card of same or similar model, in order to read your array.

          In absolute terms, hardware RAID performs better as it offloads computation from the CPU. In the case of a homelab, where CPU hardware is often close to idle, you are unlikely to see a large performance uplift.

        • I don't think I could build my own for anywhere near that price??

          Are you factoring in the cost of the power to run it ?

          My home lab runs on 64GB of RAM and I have a bunch of spare capacity, running work loads as containers has a pretty minimal footprint.

          You couldn't build yourself with the same core count for that price, but a 7900 will give you faster cores/threads that consume less power.
          And honestly not including harddrives the system cost will be around the same, if you wanted to go cheaper you could do an AM4 build, but if you're doing that I'd try to find second hand honestly.

          Yes do software raid, easier to recover also HBA controllers are less likely in general to fail.

          • @DellDealLols: I think I'll give this deal a miss, and build my own. It will surely cost substantially more, but I'll only be in trouble for that for a little while. If I get something big and noisy, and extend my study out to the garage, I foresee ongoing issues.

            • @SlickMick: again if you go for 7000 series AM5 it's pretty affordable. the only real problem is DDR5 is still pretty pricey.
              My advice would be just start out with a cheap 64GB set as 2x32GB DIMMs, add another later if you need it, you likely wont for a good while.

              If you go for AM4 its very affordable and DDR4 is cheap, but you know … ancient platform at this point.

    • +4

      IMHO somehow overkilled for most NAS user.

      Also power usage gets costy with increasing electricity rate…

      • +1

        Agree with electricity being humongous. it's a good deal if you want lots of compute and have cheap/free electricity, but for an average non-solar enjoyer, electricity will be a huge negative.

    • +4

      Most underrated comment. Every 1W is $2.63/year at $0.3/kWh, and 100W for 2 years is $526.
      If you want to keep the system for a few years, the cost can add up. Do the math before pulling the trigger, you may be better served with a newer/more efficient system.
      I replaced all my homelab machines with newer system 2 years ago after realising how much I was paying in electricity.

      • Buy 4210 (85w tdp 10/20 core). I have 8x 3.5 + 2x m.2 sata + 2 sata on a PCI card in my T440

        Idle is 90w, full blast about 120~130

        • I'm curious - What are you running on the host to idle at 90w? Do you have certain VMs/docker apps running?

      • What did it cost you?

        I've got solar, and getting a battery installed tomorrow, so power might not be too much of an issue.

        As a homelab, any problems with it only being booted up when I'm working with it? Or do these things expect to never shutdown?

      • I just buy the little micro form factor Optiplex 7080 for my rig. 3 of them idles happily at 10watts each with 64GB ram and modded with a second NIC running off the WiFi M2 miniexpress slot. It's pretty solid set.

      • I worked out the cost to run my Dell R730 + JBOD which has a total of 30 spinning disks, 4 SATA SSD, and 1 PCI NVME along with dual CPU/512GB RAM/Tesla GPU/dual 1000W PSU etc and its…. $1800 a year assuming 35c/kwh based on a continuous draw of around 550W.

        Since we have solar and a combo of cheap and free hours via an EV plan it won't be quite that bad, but still. Fair ouchies.

        I figured the cost of buying energy efficient new hardware versus cheap second hand enterprise hardware + power cost still meant I get more for my buck but didnt consider just how frequently power prices rise… Wont be long before my equation flips I suspect.

    • +1

      I used to run a plex server in a second hand dual xeon server. Worked out the power usage, can't remember exactly how much but it was a lot, and made the money back reasonably quickly swapping to a NUC and external 8 bay hdd enclosure heh.

  • +3

    I guess this thing will be noisy and hot?

    • +6

      Think small jet plane when you start up that settles down somewhat. Still too noisy to have in a room with you (mine lives in the garage which is dusty, but fine).

      • Would it be better in the garage or in aircon? (In CQ here, and keeping laptop cool is tricky.)

    • -3

      Don't have a garage?

      • +2

        Yes. How many people have Ethernet in their garage? Also dust issue.

        • +8

          All modern houses.

          • @PainToad: That's true, but mine's not modern, and it's double brick, double concrete.
            Also need somewhere decent to put it, can't exactly hang this thing off the wall like a router.

          • @PainToad: None in my street. Guess we are ancient houses

            • @serpserpserp: Started with NBN FTTP where the NTD is generally in the carport. So at least the last decade.

              • @PainToad: My FTTP is in my office at the back of the house. I think the NTD is on the side corner of the front of the house.

                • @serpserpserp: I’m guessing FTTP was added after your house was built. In which case it generally goes where your old landline was. I’m talking about new builds.

                  BTW, the NTD is internal to the house. Not the box outside the house.

                  • +2

                    @PainToad: Yeah after it was built. I don't live in a residential development suburb.

                    • @serpserpserp:

                      residential development suburb

                      dystopic suburban mcmansion shitbox dwellers when they find out not everyone lives in a similar house to them:

                      :O

                      • @beltdrive:

                        dystopic suburban mcmansion shitbox dwellers when they find out not everyone lives in a similar house to them:

                        :O

                        Rural people lucky enough to live on a big block when they find out some people need to live suburban areas because they have professional jobs or can't afford the few remaining big blocks on in convenient areas because the land is too valuable and the houses are shit because 1) the property has either been landbanked for last decade and rented out or 2) some boomer has lived in it for 30 years and done zero maintenance during that time.

                        :O

                        • @PainToad: I live in an inner city apartment but ok

                          • @beltdrive:

                            inner city apartment but ok

                            Inner city apartment owners when they find out some people actually want to own something instead of belonging to a Starta and also want at least a bit of grass to touch without having to ride a lift.

                            :O

                            Point is everyone has different circumstances and priorities. Your first comment was condescending.

                            • @PainToad: I have neither grass I have to maintain or a lift I have to ride so I guess I win?

          • @PainToad: Can confirm (at least anecdotally), we bought a new subdivision a few years back and the NBN NTD is in the garage with ethernet to a few other spots in the house.

        • I have single mode fiber to my garage because I'm crazy

  • +1

    What's its idle power consumption?

    • -2

      High

    • +4

      I got my T420 down to 35W idle in Proxmox. So this should be similar or lower. Each spun-up drive adds 10W (1W when spun-down) and the HBA card makes a big difference though - some of them idle at 30W alone. Mine was H710 which idled at 15W - included in the 35W idle with all 4 SAS drives spun down.

      • +2

        dont forget the cpu is tdp 140W heat… pretty gutsy cpu 6140s.. but negligible overall usage system watts. just pointing out the gutsy cpu..
        I just checked one of the t440 machine idle, with 2 ssd, 4 hdd sas. hovering 70W.

        • +4

          Thats its TDP, not its idle consumption. BIG difference.

          • +2

            @stumo: yes… i know. thats why i said HEAT… and negligible system watts usage.

            • @id: I don't understand, yes the power consumption is all released as heat - 35W of heat at idle.

              It doesn't magically release 140W of heat just because its rated for that, otherwise we would all be powering the whole world with these servers releasing 105W of free magic heat energy each.

              If you max it out 100% then it will consume 140W of power producing 140W heat, but that's not what was asked.

              • @stumo: fair enough with thats not what was being asked.. but yes its max rated 140w heat dissipation the cpu at max.. its not your normal avg cpu on it..

                just checking up on a T440 with gold 6138cpu . running 1 stream plex. shot up to 120W… doing veeam load 80W.. idle 70w… under winblows server os.

                • @id: You can save 10W each by spinning down those SAS drives. So with your 4 spun-down drives at idle you would be around 30W on that machine.

                  But spinning down SAS drives is only for users who occasionally use them for deep but still online storage, like a weekly backup machine or something, not every day.

  • I noticed you have ram upgrade options. Do have any reasonably priced 64 GB LR DDR4 2666? After 512GB

    • Sorry, no 64GB. Only 32GB at the moment.

  • How much could I sell a Xeon E5-2630 v4 with AliExpress MACHINIST E5-MR9A on Facebook Marketplace?

    It's got 4x old 4TB Seagate HDDs, and 1x newish 4TB Western Digital (Red I thnk). 32GB DDR4 RAM (I can supply more).

    Not much, I reckon. Maybe a few hundred bucks?

    • +6

      Is this still available?
      Then… Ghost silence
      … … 2 weeks go by …
      Then… Give you fiddy!

      … If you can deliver it.

      • 🤣

        • +1

          (I only got $20 and a pack of gum when you arrive)

          (oh, and you need to install to show it works)…

          (I don't have a monitor, so you need to bring one)…

          Sounds noisy, so, yeah nahhh, no thanks.

          • +1

            @xwx: I think I'm getting PTSD from reading this

            • @tonyamazing: (mirrors an experience I nearly had from North to Tuggeranong for a pair of sec cams).

              • @xwx: @xwx did you pack enough supplies for that long 15 minute drive?

                • @skwashd: traffic, decided wasn't worth the effort!
                  (also, waiting for tram; so delivery in 2028++)

    • +1

      Xeon E5-2630 v4 CPU is currently $10-15 AUD on AliExpress.
      X99 MR9A is $60-80

      I think "few" is very optimistic in

      Maybe a few hundred bucks?

      Id say you'd be lucky to get $150 for overall system with cpu, mobo, ram, psu.

      You can probably can get more for just hdds alone

      • Id say you'd be lucky to get $150 for overall system

        I reckon you're right. No point trying. I'll leave everything as is.

  • While the main feature of such system is 24/7 online server, just curious to see if this can be used as an offline backup or there are better options for this?

    I prefer to have all my data offline and doing backup manually once every week or two just to add new files/ media etc.

    • +2

      This is quite overkill for just that

    • Of course. Just add to your your local LAN and away you go

    • Problem for server platform is that it takes forever to boot up. Especially when you have a lot of peripherals and RAM installed.

      Also Dell's LifeCycle controller would take some time to update inventory on boots, further increase boot time.

      I'm not sure if this tower would S3 sleep properly, at least my 1U rack Dell server can be a bit tricky when it comes to low power state or sleep.

      But these platforms are very solid in quality. Feels like they would never break down.

    • If it's "just" a nas, it's quite overkill. The ability to have 8 drives and run something like ZFS is decent but you'll still haev plenty of spare compute for other things (plex? jellyfin? homeassistant? ai stuff?).

  • but you can choose a HBA330 when adding to cart if you want to use ZFS or another software RAID solution

    Curious about this. Is the HBA330 required or is there SATA directly onto the motherboard?

    • +1

      H740P can be switched to HBA mode in PERC. Not sure how much difference it makes to have a pure HBA card. It shouldn't IMO.

      I've read somewhere H740P doesn't do TRIM on SSDs though.

      • Earlier firmwares were not passing it fully. Not sure if it was fixed in newer revision, but quick googling tells to update to latest firmware before doing zfs.

        It's better to replace and have a dedicated hba card.

    • The HDD backplane needs to be connected through a RAID card or HBA. It can't be connected directly to the motherboard.

    • These ones are SAS by the look of it.

  • +1

    The world is conspiring against me to spend many of the dollars in this space….my Youtube algorithm brought me into the world of Homelabs only yesterday…and today this appears. Coincidence? No idea

    • +2

      My condolences. If you are in to HomeLab, this or something else, you are about to spend a ton of money lol.

    • +1

      Could run 50 minecraft servers on this bad boy.

  • +1

    In another life I would have snapped this up, now I just can't be f**ked building and maintaining something like that. I can barely be bothered fixing little issues with my Linux Emby install

    • +2

      Yeeeeeeeeeeep. Anyone that doesn't need the striped speed boost possible with this array is far better off whacking two giant 3.5" in a smaller NAS, something with say a N97 could also happily run PLEX transcoding it's 4k heart out along with a couple VM's to manage RAID and storage, and sip power, make no noise, and likely last a lot longer.

      Anyone needing the compute at home is a liar, and on the slim chance they aren't, are probably better off doing said tasks in the cloud to leverage far greater capacity in bursts as required. Certainly wouldn't catch me trusting anything commercial/income generating to a ~8 year old box that was on 24x7, and newbies would be far better off learning cloud than on prem in 2025 as a starting point anyway. Real devs aren't co-located in data centres anymore, and hard drive swapping monkeys are paid peanuts.

      Still, if you're a sadomasochistic at home tinkerer with solar, or money, fire up three of these in your garage. I'm not your Dad.

      • All I'm going these days is a Dell Micro with Proxmox and an i3 NUC with Emby, plus some cheap QNAP for storage which I'd ideally like to replace with one that can transcode properly.

        There's always going to be those weird nutbags with ridiculous niche requirements that could utilize the hardware in these things, but they're few and far between. And yeah…… the risk related to something with that many hours on it, despite how reliable the things generally are, probably isn't worth it for most…… especially the people who can't work out if the things uses proprietary hardware, work out SAS/SATA details, or can fit a GPU for themselves. The average supernerd that would pick these things up probably has boxes of spares they could swap in if required.

        • I'm reminded of the guy that ended up getting a lease on a cold war era bunker and the gigantic f*** off sized radar dish/equipment on top of it via a shell company in the UK for "Defence related research", then moved in and declared it his house, and started building out all kinds of crazy projects. The UK MOD was mulling over ways to drag him back out again, but is apparently at a bit of a loss. In the meantime he's tracking everything airborne over much of the local countryside, and possibly frying a few pigeons.

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