28/4 just spotted on GG website that the deal runs until 1 May, and the TV is showing in some stores (SE Qld).
Look, I know it's not UHD, but it's cheap for a Sony 65" … isn't it?
4 x HDMI, 2 x USB inputs.
Happy big screen shopping. Have set the end date for this deal as Sunday, but it might be sooner / later.
Me no touchy HiSense ever. This looks like a good deal
Why not?
Quality. I see no value in saving a couple hundred to have lower visual and performance quality for years
@Neo:
They've upped their game and some of their recent TV's are rated very highly…
http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/604431/review-hisens…
http://www.news.com.au/technology/home-entertainment/tv/hise…
@Neo:
Comparing a Sony/Samsung/LG against a Hisense at the same price, the Hisense will have better PQ. You lose the name Sony but you gain picture quality.
Dont know about Neo but from the Hisenses ive used at work they have been very very laggy and would not recommend them to anyone.
@taurenpally: Thats anecdotal, I have had a Hisense for 3 years and is still chugging along very well!
@Neo: Hisense has stepped up their game so much. Their monitors are top notch. Source: I completed a full monitor performance assessment for my company who are looking to pick them up to replace our over-priced Sony screens.
As an owner of a Hisense series 3 65" uhd I would say this Sony deal is worth considering. The main thing is if you want 4k content you have to pay for it through 4k Bluray or more expensive subscriptions and or big downloads. I really just stick to 1080p. It may be sour grapes as My screen has bad backlight bleed which Hisense says is not common and is replacing.
Yeah we have a 55 inch Hisense at work, takes over 1 minute to turn on. It's so frustrating
its not even the turning on part that im thinking about haha its using the remote it can take 5-10secs sometimes to go up or down in the menu even when using the buttons on the side.
Called hisense about it and they oh thats normal >.< and work got 3 of them and yeah does it on all of them they just dont get used as tvs anymore just a screen because of how painful it is to change sources
@Smol Cat: a friend of mine repairs Sony and Hisense for a living. He does not recommend Hisense (to me at least). Judging a picture for comparable quality is one thing, judging reliability and maintainability is another skill set entirely. He describes Hisense as inconsistent and Sony as largely excellent.
Agree. Sony all day long. No comparison.
After seeing 2 Hisense die in our family in 3 years, never ever again
My Sony KDX3300 is still going after 8 years
Yeah much better to buy a 4K TV and watch everything downsampled to Full HD or lower.
That always results in better quality.
/sarcasm
So a 1080 movie would look worse on a 4k TV than on a normal HD TV?
Yes, without some heavy madVR magic. It's almost like the panel makers are just trying to sell panels and don't care at all about the lack of UHD content.
Basic answer is yes but will vary depending on how good the processor is on the TV. 1080P content on a Sony native 1080p screen will almost definitely look better than it would being upscaled on a 4K Hisense TV. 4K TVs may have a better contrast ratio with HDR.
Unless you're building up a collection of 4k Blurays or plan on spending most of your time with the screen gaming at 4K then I would be looking at getting a 1080p screen from a reputable brand while you still can.
Would the greater pixel density not add some value? Less chance of flyscreen effect, if sitting close watching a 1080p blu-ray?
@edshays: I may be wrong but I believe 1080p is already hitting the point where human eye cannot see the pixels at normal viewing distance.
http://i.i.cbsi.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2013/01/27/resolution_char…
According to this chart you have to be viewing a 55" 1080p screen at 7.5 feet to be getting the full benefit of 1080p pixel density. For a 55" screen at 4K that distance drops to about 2.5 feet before you'll notice a difference.
I think I need to upgrade my eyes before going to 4K
Depends on the TV.
I have Sony 4K (X9000series); 1080 content looks better on it. Heck, even 480p content look amazing on such a big screen. DVD look smooth as (though once you see 1080 upscaled to 4k, heck or even native 4k - you have to adjust going back to anything less). (at 4k resolution, the weak link is from the production side of things, not the format)
A friend of mine bought a Bauhn from Aldi, apart from horrible picture quality that gave you headache; the tv even struggle upscaling 1080 content.
When it comes to buying a TV; resolution is just one of the consideration you need to take amongst others.
(in no particular order) Price, contrast ratio, colour reproduction, viewing angle, glare-reduction system (i prefer AR coated on glass/glossy surface), upscalling, user interface, casing/styling/quality, smart-tv processor speed, sound quality, input/output, 3D capability, etc.
All things being equal, I prefer higher resolution screen no doubt.
If you're budget constrained, get the TV with the higher picture quality (ignore the resolution).
I would avoid 'supermarket' brand.
Would the greater pixel density not add some value? Less chance of flyscreen effect, if sitting close watching a 1080p blu-ray?
You're asking if 4 little pixels, together the size of a big pixel, all showing same thing, is better than one big pixel if you're close enough to see individual the gaps between subpixels? Obviously, the smaller the subpixel, the smaller the gap hence the less noticeable it is.
However, practically, if you're close enough to notice that gap, then you're too close to notice the majority of the screen which is really the point of using it. (Computer monitor is different because your attention is generally only on some smaller part of it.)
Exactly. Too many people see the numbers and put no thought into their comments. The amount of data is vastly more and gives the scaler much more to work with. People seem to have forgotten about optics.
Edit: sorry u said downsampled, which threw me. So is the reverse of this and yeah is pretty pointless.
How many people on this site actually watch PROPER 4K content anyway?
And don't say Netflix or Youtube. Heck even most 4K UHD Movies are rubbish unfortunately.
Even if 4K is pointless for movies, my excuse is that it is useful for looking at still photo slideshows.
… as long as you sit real close, and the photos were taken in good light with a DSLR :-)
I got this almost an year ago and pretty happy with it especially with the fact that it runs Kodi.
I can't say I miss 4K a lot actually I don't miss 4K at all.
Someone I know got a Sony 65" 4K and like him a lot of people are highly unlikely to Calibrate the damn screen or let alone bother about taking time to find something 4K to play on it. And it looked like piss compared to mine.
More "look how dumb I am!" content. This place certainly attracts them.
Anyone with the last of the 1080p Panasonic plasmas enjoy a better image than ANY 4k LED/LCD on the market today.
1080p->4k is not the deal everyone makes it out to be. The above is proof. This panel looks like a good way to bridge the gap untii OLED becomes affordable.
Spot on, this is exactly what I've been saying for years. I have a 65" Panasonic ST30 that, unfortunately, I'll have to part with soon - moving houses and leaving the TV behind, as it's hard-mounted - and it kills me that I can't buy a new plasma to replace it.
Just imagine what the picture quality of these plasmas would look now like if Panasonic continued making them to this day?
This is a very good deal for a 65" TV from a good brand though…
If it was installed in the house, it can be removed. No such thing as hard mounted.
@WatchNerd: By hardwired, I mean that if I removed the chunky 5 year old 65" plasma, it would expose the massive bracket (from memroy, the installer sold it to me for $200) that can't be removed without some serious damage to the wall, as it was mounted not just with large bolts, but also with those tentacle looking things that expand inside the wall.
Not only that, but there are also power and antenna points that were put in behind the TV, right in the dead centre of the wall, which also happens to be a feature wall.
I'm getting the place tenanted and thought that it would be cheaper for me to leave the TV behind (and hopefully charge a bit more in rent) than to remove the bracket and fix up / repaint the wall. The tenants can always put their own TV (which, let's face it is likely to be smaller) in one of the bedrooms.
And also dont forget cash rewards. Every little bit helps :)
Full HD for $1295?
Does that come with a full body massage?
I think thats normal price?
TGG site says it was (apparently) $1695
I thought this was a great deal until I saw only Full HD….bummer….
What is so special about Sony that you'd pay extra?
I remember when Sony made the best TVs. They invented the Trinitron - anybody could see it was clearly superior.
Now they all look kind of similar. Still a reputable brand, but Sony has been living on past glory for decades now.
But brand aside, this is a great price for a well-reviewed 65" TV. UHD is over-rated.
android tv
android tv
That is a benefit. But https://www.ozbargain.com.au/product/xiaomi-mi-box-3
is sub-$100 and better than the built-in one, plus or minus.
I would prefer the native Android TV, one less device/remote to worry about.
Is it really better? I thought freeview apps support sony tv's where mi box is unsupported.
https://thesizzle.com.au/blog/201722xiaomi-mi-box-4k-nice-bu…
at the cost of having to change the input/non seamless android tv experience.
one less device/remote to worry about.
CEC solves that. (usually)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Electronics_Control
I thought freeview apps support sony tv's where mi box is unsupported.
In my experience, the freeview addons for Kodi are superior to the official apps.
Notably, the lack of advertising.
Thanks cash back here we come
Got this in an OzB deal last year for $1516. Good TV, occasionally restarts randomly (software issue) but has a good picture and is a great entry/mid level 65" for the price.
I paid a similar price as @Meconium and echo his comments. Definitely happy with it overall. Only thing I would add is my set has some visible vertical banding, only noticable when watching the footy (horizontal pans are where you can see it), but it rarely bothers me. Not enough to worry about a return or anything.
I would suggest these may be from the wide-angle cameras they use to film the footy rather than from the TV itself…
It's not just in football, you can see it with a straight grey solid background as well.
its 3D Ready , but I think u need to buy glasses.
For someone who misses his 3D Id consider this, but I don't need 2 TV's
I read no manufacturer is making 3D TVs anymore
This is an older TV. Will be one of the last 3D tvs from Sony
sorry i should of said No New Tvs will have 3D
This is a 2016 model they have extended the life of, so still has 3D.
Edit, ode^ in b4 me by 48 seconds
I bought this last year specifically for the 3D because it is being phased out.
This TV has its problems (interface is not too snappy, trying to googlecast from standby randomly crashes the TV forcing you to have to reboot it), but the 3D and picture in general is great.
Anyone feel a 20% off eBay GG sale in the winds?
Mother's day is just around the corner. Hoping for the stars to align.
it's a great TV. Paid 2300 for it when just released.
I got one. Very happy with it.
AU $1,230.25 after eBay discount.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Sony-KDL65W850C-65-165cm-FHD-…
Voucher: C5AUS
active the cash reward 1.30% to get about A$16 Back.
OP might want to add this to the title.
Not 4k display? Meh..
Question - anyone who has got this television managed to play 3D with USB plug in or HDMI cable through laptop? I cant manage to get the 3d display settings menu disappear. Tried the hard reset too. no luck
Haven't tried with USB plug-in, but I often play 3D games with HDMI from my PC. Does it not appear in the options when you hit Action Menu?
I go to home>settings>display to turn on the 3d settings. But the options/settings overlay do not disappear and stays on the screen (above the video). If I click exit or go back and 3d turns off.
Yeah, just hit Action Menu on your remote and under Display and Sound, scroll down to 3D. Try that
About a year ago, I bought this for about $1,550 from TGG eBay. How fast these things go down in price…….
that's nothing I still remember paying 2500 for a sammy 1st gen 3D plasma 5-6 years ago and now it's worth maybe 500 if I'm lucky…
What do you think of the TV ? A review please ?
Honestly I've got no complaints. Maybe I am a bit biased simply because I own one. Picture quality and sound quality is pretty good. WebOS is easy to use. I rarely use the TV and mostly use the TV for Netflix, Youtube and play movies on my hard-drive. During the period of use (which is about a year now), the WebOS got stuck twice. But then all you need is a simple restart. Would've liked if they provided magic remote like LG and Samsung rather than a traditional remote.
P.S - At the time of buying this, I was tossing between 4K and Full HD. But then I settled on this because, 1. Price difference 2. There was not much 4K content at that moment and I don't think there will much for next 2 years. 3. I sit about 3m away from the TV so, it doesn't really matter anyway.
It runs Android TV, not WebOS…
Lucky you, I bought it for $1495 3 weeks ago
I have one. Good TV and also pretty good speakers which are becoming rare.
Unless you're within 2 metres you won't tell the diff to a 4k TV.
Anyway due to incredible file sizes for proper 4k, most content will be 1080p or less for sometime yet.
I'm in the market for a new TV, but not in a hurry. Is it worth holding out for EOFY sales (do TV's go on steeper discounts than this at EOFY?) or is this still a good deal?
Probably won't see it much cheaper.
Nice thing is this looks like it's Android based, so you can install Kodi & some other apps from the play store.
Unless you want 4k/UHD, then it's a bit of a bargain.
Thanks!
Just a comment regarding all the 1080p vs 4K, real vs fake 4k discussion going on here.
I was at JB the other day and they had what appeared to be Planet Earth II playing on all their TV's. Out of the UHD Blu-Ray, 1080p Blu-Ray, and DVD, they chose to play the DVD.
Why? Who knows. Perhaps the manager doesn't want to boost his/her TV sales.
I asked at HNs as they were doing a similar thing. Apparently it's to "manage expectations"…. If they show HQ content in the store, when people get home and watch SD FTA TV, they ring up and claim their new TV is broken, because it doesn't look as good as it did in the store…
I reckon that is BS, though.
like politicians:
Q: "How do you know when a salesperson is lying to you ?"
A: "Their lips are moving"
Can you play video files like avi, mp4 and mkv from a hard drive with this TV?? looking on internet conflicting advice..
Yes you can. I have this TV and it will play from USB hard drive. It runs android TV and we love it!
I've been using this for 1 and a half year via wifi for chromecast, my parents who are old and arn't tech savvy really loves this TV and uses it everyday still praising it to this day.
If marshmallow update isn't available yet, you can download and use the update from the sony Singapore website, and if you're interested in casting videos from your phone/tablet I recommend this as the best I've ever used.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.instantbit…
Nothing from the iPhone store was comparable to this when I was doing it for my grandma though since it has no ad blocker/popups.
Zeral…can you tell me if this tv supports video file playback of avi/ mkv files? Thnx
I personally only watch online nowadays but I've checked for you and see that it won't work on the default video app, but both will work on the mx player and vlc app, mkv subtitles seem to appear no problems too.
As a bonus it can use emulators and stream PC Steam games too using the moonlight app
Thanks for taking the time to check Zeral!
If you're watching the tv from 50 meters, it doesn't matter if it's full HD or 4k.
LOL. mate if you are watching it from 50 meters it wouldn't matter if it was SD.
50m and trying to change channels pmsl
Videophiles have failed to tell the difference between 1080p and 4k from conventional 4m or so distance on 65inch panels, I've seen blind tests.
4k is doing it's job, selling inferior LCD/LEDs that have a variety of fundamental flaws.
Exactly, I remember doing calculations on this in physics, the capability of human eyes is well defined. It's just a case of the marketing folk couldn't get the mass market buying 3d so 4k is the next wave of bs. With a 1080p Panasonic plasma the only upgrade I'll consider is OLED when its cheaper.
it is like bottled water, double blind tests have put some tap water in front. Give it around 5m and the ones that can tell become very rare.
For the brand yeah, otherwise Hisense was the same price for 4K