This was posted 1 year 5 months 16 days ago, and might be an out-dated deal.

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Up to 8 Free Burgers in October by Donating $20 or More to Polished Man @ Grill'd (Grill'd App Required)

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$20,427 raised (as of 24 Oct 2018)


Well. It's back. Similar deal to 2016 and 2017 with a few changes. Taken from the page:

To reward all Polished Men and Women who fundraise or donate $20 or more, our mates at Grill'd are serving up 8 FREE burgers.

TO CLAIM YOUR FREE GRILL'D BURGERS:

  • Tick the 'Grill'd box' when signing up or donating
  • Fundraise or donate $20 or more
  • Wait for a confirmation email and follow the instructions to download the Grill'd app
  • Receive daily burger codes through the Grill'd app
  • Head to any Grill'd on the following dates, present your code and enjoy a FREE burger!
    • Tuesday 2nd / Wednesday 3rd October
    • Tuesday 9th / Wednesday 10th October
    • Tuesday 16th / Wednesday 17th October
    • Tuesday 23rd / Wednesday 24th October

So instead of a burger everyday for a few consecutive days, it will be 8 burgers spread out over 4 weeks.

As of "What is Polished Man?"

One child dies every 5 minutes as a result of violence. That's why this October we challenge all men and women to paint their fingernails. Fingernails that spark conversations. Conversations that inspires donations. Donations that allows for trauma recovery and trauma prevention for children around the world. Because it shouldn't hurt to be a child. Help end violence against children.

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  • +21 votes

    A good deal and a good cause.

    • +34 votes

      A good deal and a middling cause run by a dodgy charity.
      But that's OK, I don't mind paying $2.50 for a burger.

      • +44 votes

        Cash flow from donations and operations etc: $4,410,954

        Cash payments made to employees and suppliers: $3,294,014

        • +5 votes

          Yeah, unfortunately we live in a world where nothing is free.

        • +1 vote

          Where did you get that info?

        • +9 votes

          @ozhunter: Charities registered with ACNC (kinda like the charity version of ASIC) have their financial statements public. Ygap's is here.

          It's not anything 'dodgy', just not your normal 'charity' and still a good cause. Their constitution says one of their main objects is to support entrepreneurs in the social enterprise area with there being "fair distribution of the benefits that results from the projects".

        • +5 votes

          A net donation to cause rate of almost 75% is pretty good in my books.

          These promos cost money.

        • +10 votes

          @tsunamisurfer:

          Yep. a charity that donates 100% of revenue to charity might rake in ~10k. Good but not excellent.
          Some charities spend a lot of money on marketing and reach and people and only donate 20% to charity but rake in $3m. Not the best model but outcome is better.

        • +2 votes

          Those admin fee geezus

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          @tsunamisurfer: Yeah they do - but it's just surprising considering the scope of what they actually do compared to other project based non-profits.

          https://imgur.com/a/472uTaj Even though project expenditure increased since last year, the people behind ygap are pretty comfortable haha.

        • +1 vote

          @Lorindor:
          Misfortune has nothing to do with it

        • +11 votes

          @tsunamisurfer:

          LOL what kind of sick mind do you have where if you donate $1 to a cause and only $0.25 actually does anything? Not to mention that you then claim a tax credit on that and pay less tax to society. So really it cancels itself out and sitting then doing nothing is probably just as good.

          Also noteworthy on their homepage under "WHERE DOES THE MONEY GO?" - where they say it goes to a cause. And just happen to forget to mention that 75% of it gets wasted lol.

        • +14 votes

          @watwatwat:

          LOL what kind of sick mind do you have where if you donate $1 to a cause and only $0.25 actually does anything?

          Ahh sh!t…I read it the wrong way.

          I thought 75% was going to the cause, but its the other way around.

        • +1 vote

          @watwatwat: why do you think that because the money is spent within the organisation it does nothing?

          This program they are doing with Grill'd is managed internally and is a high profile highly visible campaign getting across the message.

          Messaging is the primary thing they are looking for AFAIK.

        • +9 votes

          @tallmantim:

          "why do you think that because the money is spent within the organisation it does nothing?" - uhh, because it actually does nothing. Half is on employment costs. Of which people pay rent, food, buy tv, pay for pornhub subscription etc. That is not charity.

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            @watwatwat: Precisely - its not that the 75% that is spent on running costs does NOTHING.
            The issue is that 75% of what is raised does not do what people are donating for in the first place.
            No one is giving money to a charity to pay for staff, photocopying, rent, advertising etc etc etc…

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            @watwatwat: Well if you hire a psychologist for instance - you will have to pay him and that is an employment costs, like 100%. Cause psychologists also want to pay for their pornhub subscriptions. It doesn't mean that they do nothing for the cause.

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          Polished Man support/admin costs are all clearly outlined on the website here - https://bit.ly/2zXbdui. We have proudly been able to get 72% of all funds directly to our beneficiaries. The reason you're seeing high support costs on the ACNC website is because YGAP (the charity that runs the Polished Man Campaign) has owned and operated a social enterprise restaurant (March 2014 - Dec 2017), Feast of Merit. In any hospitality business, it's high costs and much lower margins compared to fundraising campaigns like Polished Man. Each year the Polished Man campaign receives millions of dollars in pro bono support, and this is how we are able to keep all our campaign costs to an absolute minimum. You can see all the generous supporters on our website here - https://my.polishedman.com/page/sponsors

      • +16 votes

        Here's their explanation for how the funding is utilised:

        Funds raised through Polished Man are channelled into trauma prevention and trauma recovery programs for children who are at risk of or have suffered violence.

        These include ygap accelerator programs, supporting entrepreneurs who are running ventures that focus on ending violence against children. ygap believes in the power of social entrepreneurship and that local leaders have the best solutions to problems in their community. This is why we back local leaders who have innovative approaches to the complex issues of trauma prevention and recovery.

        Funds are also channelled into some of the best trauma recovery agencies in the world including the Australian Childhood Foundation, SAMSN, Hagar Australia and the New York Center for Children.

        Personally "social entrepreneurship" is a massive red flag to me. In a lot of cases that just means people finding ways to make money off of socially-conscious goals. And if you're just passing the money along to other people, taking a cut off the top, why do you exist? If the people running this truly cared, why not work directly with those already putting in the work? It's all pretty dodgy to me.

      • +4 votes

        You also need to see what their top management are paid - it can be obscene

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          You gotta pay good money to get good people.

        • +1 vote

          @NoDiggerty: and certainly to keep them. I've seen what happens to organisations who won't pay their staff what they are worth. The last one I worked with (and left) is now defunct.

        • +3 votes

          @NoDiggerty: Sure, I get that, but this is charity we're talking about here - and too many charities spend more on admin than they do on their cause

          I only donate to charities that give away most (or all) of their income - but that's just me

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          @R4:

          I feel like you're just jumping on the bandwagon with this comment.

          Sure, a lot of charities use a lot of their earnings for administration purposes, but I assume running a charity is much like running a business - it's not just smiles and sunny days, a lot of hard work has to be put into it, and I could only imagine the amount of charities that start up and don't last because of poor management.

          It's all nice and dandy to want to do some thing great for humanity, but it takes a lot more than just good intentions to actually build up and sustain a cause like this.

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          @Lorindor:

          but I assume running a charity is much like running a business

          Then you should stop making assumptions. There are similarities - but do you know the difference between a charity and a business? A charity is marketable because it preys on people's conscience and the expectation that they're doing something good. Heart-strings, virtue-signaling, karma, that kind of thing.

          A business has to sell something, whether a product or a service. A business has no cause, only that it wants to make money. A business can't market itself based on good feelings and butterflies and unicorns.

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            @HighAndDry:

            A business can't market itself based on good feelings and butterflies and unicorns.

            Except that's exactly what many businesses do by publicly stating their positions on matters such as gay marriage, climate change and other social issues.

            Westpac stick their names all over rescue helicopters, which has nothing to do with their core business of banking the last time I checked (except, perhaps, to rescue their executive team and parachute them to safety the next time the financial system collapses under its own weight).

            Corporate social responsibility (or, more accurately, the public's perception of their CSR) is a huge part of many businesses, not just charities.

        • +1 vote

          @HighAndDry:

          I never said there were same, but rather there are similarities in the operation of either.

          People need to stop having such high expectations about everything, life isn't that black and white, and as such it's almost guaranteed that there's a lot more going on behind the scenes with charities then you think.

        • +1 vote

          Just to help give you a little bit more insights into this. I've been volunteering with ygap for 10 years. Myself and around 6 volunteers ran the first Polished Man campaign (2014), and then in the second year (2015) one of our incredible donors funded a role to run the campaign for 6months. I applied and was successful. I moved from a Marketing and CSR role in a pharmaceutical company and took a $30K pay cut to come and work at YGAP and run the Polished Man campaign. It was a really tough time financially for me trying to get by, but knowing the incredible work the campaign was doing, it was something I certainly never regretted. Over the next two years (2015-2016) I ran the campaign with an amazing army of volunteers and agencies who supported us pro bono. And in that time we raised $1.6m. Then the following year I had a few staff join me and we raised $1.6m in just one year (2017). If you'd like to learn more on this there is an amazing Ted talk that explores the power of investing in charities - https://bit.ly/1e680K1

      • +6 votes

        If people are interested in cost effective altruism check out

        https://www.givewell.org/charities/top-charities

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      I agree. $2.50 burgers are both a good cause and a great deal!

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      If anyone needs a page to donate to:
      https://my.polishedman.com/scott-cromb

      As an added incentive, for every $250 raised, I'll paint another nail. If we raise enough to paint them all, for every additional $250, I'll paint one pink!

  • +4 votes

    Maybe we should organise an OzBargain team again this year.

    Great idea.

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    Are these tax deductible?

    • -1 vote

      Yep! I got a receipt last year.

      • +5 votes

        incorrect - you got something of value that is not incidental. it is NOT tax deductible

        https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Income-and-deductions/Ded...

        see under what you can't claim, noting:

        "payments where you have an understanding with the recipient that the payments will be used to provide a benefit to you."

        also, see at para 37 onwards this ruling - http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.htm?Docid=TXR/TR200513/NAT...

        • +5 votes

          Nope, I simply donated to Painted Man.

        • +1 vote

          @theguyrules: mate read the ruling - it doesn't matter Grilled gave you the burgers, it is still a benefit which prevents deductibility as you only got them for making the "donation". the benefit need not come from the DGR you gave the donation to, the test is the link between the "donation" and the receipt.

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          You're being negged so I thought I'd look into it, that line you've quoted is the only one I can see that's relevant.

          Having said that it specifically says "the payments will be used to provide a benefit to you" and I don't think that's the case here, as the payments are being used to provide a benefit to the Polished Man organisation, which provides it to other people, not you, the person donating.

          I would imagine the intent is to prevent deducting donations that you directly receive a benefit from the payment made.

          Ask your accountant though

        • +3 votes

          @MikeWhitneysHair:

          as i mentioned - refer TR 2005/13 paragraph 37 onwards. It is a very clear-cut and established area of the law - the payment benefits you as in return you get 8 burgers.

        • +8 votes

          @BEPS13: Sorry, where does it say on the tax receipt that I was given a benefit?
          I simply donated to Painted Man.

        • +1 vote

          @BEPS13:

          Sorry I forgot to read the law itself. Appears you're right! $20 won't save too much on the tax return anyway.

          Makes me wonder about other charity events where you receive material things like stickers or other promotional materials

        • +2 votes

          @theguyrules: if Painted Man gave you a receipt I think you donated to the wrong charity.

        • +7 votes

          Once you make a donation you recieve an email that advises you can request a tax-deductible receipt by email. Once that request is made you will receive the following response:

          "Thank you for your email and generous donation.
          Your tax-deductible receipt will be issued to you towards the end of the financial year, by
          June 1, 2019
          , at the latest.

          YGAP partners with Rotary to deliver our projects. It is in partnership with Rotary that donations to Polished Man are made tax deductible.

          Please email hello@polishedman.com if you have any issues or queries as this inbox is not regularly monitored.

          Kind Regards,

          The Polished Man Team"

          Polished Man us advising that the donation is tax deductable.

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            @jondgls:

            Polished Man us advising that the donation is tax deductable.

            That's because it is there standard template email for people who donate without this promotion

  • +11 votes

    So instead of a burger everyday for a few consecutive days, it will be 8 burgers spread out over 4 weeks.

    Thank god! Last year was great but a struggle.

  • +7 votes

    Good cause

    As a group we raised over $10,000 last year!

  • +9 votes

    Can someone create an OzBargain team like last year, so we can all donate to it?

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    Are the listed dates for the burgers in October or September?

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    Can anyone actually sign up. Mine just freeze.

    As a web dev I looked into the console.
    Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: Cannot read property 'message' of undefined.
    Looks like an object was not defined lol

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    So women can get this too?
    Do you have to paint your nail this year too?

    • +2 votes

      Yes you can. And if you already have painted nails, just paint 1 a different colour.

    • +1 vote

      It doesn't look like it says anything about having to paint your nail to use the voucher.
      (Reading under "To claim your free Grill'd Burgers")

      • +1 vote

        I got berated by a staff member last year whilst I was eating my burger for not having a nail painted. Without speaking I raised the painted finger nail and the lady apologised and scuttled off.

    • +1 vote
      1. To redeem your free burger, you must present your QR code on the Grill’d App for scanning at the register at the time of placing your order. You do not need to demonstrate one painted fingernail to redeem your free burger. If your burger QR code is unreadable for any reason, our friendly restaurant staff will do their best to work something out, but please understand if we can’t process the burger QR code on the spot and need to refer you to our support team to resolve the issue.
  • +8 votes

    We could always make this the 'polished person campaign' as violence is committed by both sexes.

    • +6 votes

      Yes that's true; but I'm a man, and I couldn't give a (profanity) what it's called as long as they give me $2.50 burgers!

    • +2 votes

      This cause appears to be about specifically sexual violence against children, of which the statistics are imbalanced

      https://polishedman.com/about

      • +1 vote

        The campaign is against all violence against children but the stats say "males perpetrate 88% of sexual violence".
        Why not just a total violence statistic?

    • -9 votes

      My reading is that it acknowledges the privileged position men have in society and our power to make change.

      As a white male i have no problem with this acknowledgement. I love my awesome life and am happy to wield my sword of righteousness.

      • +4 votes

        "My reading is that it acknowledges the privileged position men have in society and our power to make change.

        As a white male i have no problem with this acknowledgement"

        Speak for yourself. I came from a poor background with sod all privilege and built everything I have from scratch, never been on welfare either. Added to which I have no idea why you felt the need to mention race.

  • +1 vote

    OP can you add a link to the group in the description once it's created? I'd be keen to join =]

  • -1 vote

    Oh, this sexiest campaign again. Remember when Grill'd supported men's health with Movemember? Now they just demonize them. Here's a fact, women abuse children too. Why not make this the Polished Person campaign? Oh, because that would be addressing the real issue, not just pushing the SJW's agenda.

    • +2 votes

      Your message is true but your approach is bad.

    • +3 votes

      Why not make this the Polished Person campaign?

      It's because the vast majority of sexual violence against children is perpetrated by men.

      Breast cancer affects men too but Pink Ribbon Day is about women for the same reason. Would you call that sexist too?

      • +2 votes

        It's because the vast majority

        Funny, I thought it was wrong to use stasticics to justify the stereotyping of certain groups, eg. what’s making the news in Melbourne atm regarding violent crimes.

      • +1 vote

        "Fortunately, breast cancer in men is rare and it accounts for less than 1% of all cancers in men."

        not really for both sexes then is it!

      • +3 votes

        Breast cancer affects men too but Pink Ribbon Day is about women for the same reason. Would you call that sexist too?

        Health is another area men are getting screwed.

        Men die earlier but women's health gets four times more funding

        • +2 votes

          The suicide rate among men is 4 times higher as well.

        • +1 vote

          @Zedsdeadbabyzedsdead:

          And much more likely to become homeless.

          Got to love all that ‘privilege’.

        • +6 votes

          $%@ Off with you misogynistic victim envy disguised as equal rights.

          Health care is an "on demand" service, it is 4 times higher in women because there is four times more demand for health services in women.

          DV awareness and support is skewed towards female victims and male perpetrators because women are around 10 times more likely to be a victim of DV than a man. Much higher when you look at serious injury resulting in death or hospitalisation.

          It isn't wrong to use data to target areas of concern in the community, it is wrong to misrepresent issues by focussing on one aspect of the problem. Whining about stuff like this is like white America trying to hijack "Black Lives Matter" with "All Lives Matter", or anti-rape campaigns which say "Don't Rape Women" with "Don't Rape Anyone". Anyone making these arguments seriously misunderstands these issues and needs to educate themselves more.

        • +6 votes

          @Molloch: "$%@ Off with you misogynistic victim envy"

          Probably not the best way to enter a debate…..

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          @Zedsdeadbabyzedsdead:

          Not really a debate. A debate has two valid points; this is purely trivialising an important issue by trying to compare it to a less one.

          I was specifically annoyed about someone pointing out that breast cancer affects women 99% of the time and yet he still tried to trivialise that by saying health care favoritised women. Breast cancer envy. WTF?

        • -3 votes

          @Molloch:

          4 times higher in women because there is four times more demand for health services in women

          More demand? Yet men are dying earlier. Right. Us men just don’t want to live longer, that must be it.

          DV awareness and support is skewed towards female victims and male perpetrators because women are around 10 times more likely to be a victim of DV than a man. Much higher when you look at serious injury resulting in death or hospitalisation.

          Men are much much more likely to be be a victim of violence or murder in general. The gender of the perpetrator is irrelevant, that is victim blaming.

        • +2 votes

          @PainToad:

          "More demand? Yet men are dying earlier. Right. Us men just don’t want to live longer, that must be it."

          Men are less likely to seek early medical intervention and less likely to attend routine wellness checks. This is an entirely different issue than breast cancer.

          "The gender of the perpetrator is irrelevant, that is victim blaming."

          That is not what victim blaming is.

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