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why neg me? they clearly made the price 887.78,so after 10% off it is 799.00
isn'tthis price jacking?
I still didn’t understand your question? Where is it cheaper than $887?
Price-jacking is irrelevant if the final price is still a deal.
Lack of price-jacking is also irrelevant if the final price isn't a deal.
I didn't neg you btw, but explaining why people might.
Price-jacking is irrelevant if the final price is still a deal.
Not really. It’s still deceptive by making it sound better than it actually is. Not the OPs fault but.
As far as whether something's a deal is concerned, it has no bearing.
$150 (after price jack from $200 to $300 and then 50% off) is still better than $160 (actual 50% off from $320 price).
I'll go one further - even the amount of the discount doesn't matter, because not every store has the same original price for every product. ONLY the final price matters.
It misleads people into thinking they are getting 50% off when they're only getting $10 off or 1%.
It doesn't change the fact that the final price is still less, but people get pissed off about being misled into thinking there are huge discounts when there really isn't.
It's fine if you don't mention the discount percentage at all, and only say $10 off. But when you artificially inflate prices just so you can claim you're offering a massive % discount, that's dodgy and I'd rather not buy it from that seller, even if they are slightly the cheapest.
@lostn: Okay, your loss.
I get it's misleading. I'm saying that it's misleading as to an irrelevant fact. Like the fact the salesperson is Joe instead of John. Who cares? You're getting X product for $N price.
If you'd rather pass up savings in the name of moral umbrage, go for it, I'm sure others would be happy to pay the lower price.
Here's the crux: How is someone harmed by thinking something was 50% off rather than 30% off, if they're still aware they're paying the price for the product, and are able to make comparisons on those?
I'm saying that it's misleading as to an irrelevant fact. Like the fact the salesperson is Joe instead of John. Who cares? You're getting X product for $N price.
I don't think it's irrelevant at all, and that is a false analogy. The name of a salesman is not deceptive at all. But surely at some point even you think it would be ridiculous. Suppose the item's price is inflated by 20X and they offer 96% off? It's a saving over RRP still, but it would be illegal to do that. And to you, it makes no difference. A few bucks off is still a bargain.
Not saying that's what happened here. But inflating a list price above RRP has definitely been seen on ebay, or imports selling at AU RRPs.
If you're only going to cut by $10, just say $10 off. Don't do some dodgy gymnastics with percentages.
The name of a salesman is not deceptive at all.
If the guy's name is John but he says he's Joe, of course that's deceptive - he's literally lying. It just doesn't matter.
And to you, it makes no difference. A few bucks off is still a bargain.
Exactly - it makes no difference. If it's cheaper than other stores, it's still a bargain and that's all I care about.
Product X at $N is still that, whether it was price-jacked then 96% off, or already selling below RRP and only 10% off.
At the end of the day you're still paying $N for product X.
That's it. Who cares what they do with percentages? And if you care, why?
Who cares what they do with percentages?
Because sometimes people aint got the time for that.
If shops really want to offer the lowest price. Make it easy for shoppers to see that.
People on ozbargain forget that there are people that are not aware of this site or similar sites. While we all secretly wish they all join in they aint got the time for that.
The more shops get away with deceptive practices like these the more brazen they will be with screwing people over. And the less bargains overall we will see.
If you dont see that selling well above rrp then offering 20, 30, 40% off and you are only getting a realistic 2% off could possibly mask those that are ripping off and end up selling for more that what others are selling without a percentage off sale.
You are going to go but on ozbargain. We call those people out. Well yeah. Except what about those that aren't on this site?
@xoom: You don't need to be on OzBargain to see the actual price something is selling at and be able to compare that price to others. If you're not doing even that, you're just being lazy.
That's all you need to do. Disregard any discount figure, compare the final price.
So which is easiest to see the lowest price? Lets pretend rrp for said item is $110. Which no one ever sold any at.
Store A usually sells item for $100. Now $10 off. So selling for $90. (10% off if you go by % off)
Store B sells item at $150 (pricejack) then offers 40% off.
Store C sells item at $167 (pricejack) then offers 46% off.
Pay more closer attention to the second and third example. If one goes only by the % off. One would think the bigger the % off the better. Which is what is going to catch people out.
Its well and good to say oh people should compare prices. But you see in my example above its time consuming.
If a retailer truly believe they have the cheapest/best prices then why make the consumer work hard for finding this out?
@xoom: how is it any more time consuming to compare the actual price than to compare the percentage discount?
If the guy's name is John but he says he's Joe, of course that's deceptive - he's literally lying. It just doesn't matter.
I don't care what his name is. I do care if you claim to be 50% off but are only 1% off. You shouldn't be allowed to make false claims about your discount. And you shouldn't be able to inflate the RRP. Not that I'm saying that's what happened with this deal.
Exactly - it makes no difference. If it's cheaper than other stores, it's still a bargain and that's all I care about.
We have laws against false advertising.
You're free to not care about that stuff, but I care very much about legality.
That's it. Who cares what they do with percentages? And if you care, why?
See above. Business laws exist for a reason.
how is it any more time consuming to compare the actual price than to compare the percentage discount?
Some merchant sites like Amazon let you sort a list by % discount. That's what a lot of people see as best value. This is a lot more useful than sorting by lowest price, if you are looking at a range of items. For example, searching for Blu-ray movies. If you sort by lowest price, you will get the crappiest movies at the top of the list, the ones that are always cheap instead of the ones you might consider. But if you sort by % discount, you get to see what are genuine bargains. Thankfully Amazon doesn't do dodgy stuff like this.
When you fudge numbers like this, you make it difficult for people finding genuine bargains.
What you suggest only works when you have a specific product in mind and search for that product. For people browsing looking for DVD or gaming bargains but no specific title in mind, % discount is a lot more useful. This will of course get hijacked if sellers don't play ball.
@HighAndDry: because if all shops mark the rrp of an item and said item is discounted by 5% in one store. Another store is giving 10% off. Then you know instantly whoever has a higher % off is the best price.
But when retailers start pricing well above rrp so they can offer 20% which is really only 5% off rrp. Then you are false advertising.
We get it if a shop cant offer a 20% off rrp. If one genuinely believe they have the cheapest price make it easy to see thats the case.
@xoom: or you can compare the price and whichever store has the lowest price has the lowest price. Takes the same amount of time and effort, no?
Takes the same amount of time and effort, no?
Well no. Heres why.
10% off is better that 5% off if all shops start from rrp.
In the case of some shops selling above rrp. 20% may not necessarily be better than 10% off rrp or even 5% off rrp.
Can you not see the extra work needed just to see if a 20% off 30% off maybe even 40% off is a genuine % off or just a 2 to 3% based on rrp?
And its so easy for unscrupolous retailers pricing things above rrp just so people can be offered inflated % off and in the end pay more.
@xoom: what are you talking about? You just compare the actual price - $120 vs $150. How hard could that possibly be?
Its getting to the actual price thats hard.
When everyone starts at rrp. Then offers of any % off is just so simple. The bigger the percentage off the cheaper the final price. No need to do percentage calculations. 10% off is better than 5% off. Because 10 is bigger than 5 as a number. Therefore discount is bigger. Easy.
When some retailers start going above rrp then offer % off. Then for example 30% can still mean the final price is still higher than 5% off rrp.
If a shop truly believes they are offering the cheapest price i challenge them all to make it simple. Everyone starts off at rrp. Then offer a percentage off.
Dont get me wrong if all a shop can offer is 5% off rrp and that happens to be the cheapest price then good. However if another shop comes along and offers 6% off then instantly 6 is bigger than 5. Therefore cheaper. See how easy that is.
But no lets complicate it by having say 40% off over inflated prices because thats how we going to show we are the cheapest. Still not seeing how these % off inflated prices can mask prices that are higher than genuine % off. By genuine i mean % off rrp.
If a shop has never sold a single item at their inflated price then they should not be allowed to use said price as a starting point for a % off.
Everyone starts off at rrp. Then offer a percentage off.
What?
They can do it simpler. Just have a price, which they already do. That's it. Then consumers compare that price.
ZERO calculations needed - just see which is the lower price - THE ACTUAL NUMBER, ignore everything else. Christ I'm talking to a brick wall here.
I been here long enough to do my research whenever i'm after something so i can get the best price.
The comments i have been making is for those out there that all they see is ohhh 40% off. Bargain. Marketing people know this. They play on these people's minds.
Then you can say stuff them. Let them pay more. Sadly they outnumber more savvy people who do the research so the retailers see no need for transparent pricing/discounting.
And the more people pay more for things the less likely a retailer will lower the prices.
Heres a meme that explains it in a joking way what i mean by marketing people playing tricks with "% off sale."
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTfClwC…
You can say but i dont fall for such tricks. Well neither do i nor anyone here. But the truth is people do. Its these people that outnumber us who end up dictating the market price in the end.
I been here long enough to do my research whenever i'm after something so i can get the best price.
There's no research other than: Oh, which shop has it the cheapest?
Unless they aren't making any comparisons, in which case price-jacking or percentage discounts wouldn't matter either because the consumer is happy to buy it at $N.
There's no research other than: Oh, which shop has it the cheapest?
Thats still research. People see 50% off and they get an adrenaline rush to buy. Something you and i may never understand because we know better to check if it is indeed the best price.
Unless they aren't making any comparisons, in which case price-jacking or percentage discounts wouldn't matter either because the consumer is happy to buy it at $N.
People see 50% off. They get excited. The consumers get a mad rush to buy and marketing people know this.
Never forget there is more less savvy people that means they have more buying power. The more these people buy any item for more. The less likely said item will go down in price.
Take iphones for example. You can argue oh but i will never buy an iphone. I buy android. Iphone prices wont affect me. If apple can get away with their pricing you think android phone makers wont see this opportunity to up their prices also?
People see 50% off and they get an adrenaline rush to buy.
Those people are idiots.
People see 50% off. They get excited.
Still idiots.
I'm not sure if you've noticed, but having no sympathy for idiots is kinda my thing.
Also - you're basically criticizing all marketing. People see sexy women, they get excited. People see cars going fast, they get an adrenaline rush. Shrugs.
@HighAndDry: and these idiots (as you call them) are the ones dictating the prices of things because they continue to buy things at a much higher price you or anyone might want to pay.
You think apple pricing their top tier iphone xs max 512GB at more than the price of a decent gaming laptop not going to affect prices of android phones? This is just more fuel for the likes of samsung, lg, sony, huawei and more to push the prices up. Because if apple can get away with it they sure will push that evelop also.
Yes its funny when people spend way more than they should on things. However the joke stops being funny when they start to affect everyone else also. Specially when the prices went up because people are willing to pay. Not because of shortage of material or the factory that makes components got damage by a cyclone so parts are hard to get.
However the joke stops being funny when they start to affect everyone else also. Specially when the prices went up because people are willing to pay. Not because of shortage of material or the factory that makes components got damage by a cyclone so parts are hard to get.
That's called business. Product pricing is set by more than "cost price + a margin you think is reasonable". Also, supply and demand has… well a material shortage or factory problems are the supply, there's also the demand side.
I know how this works. I just don't think it's some giant travesty. Yes, there are stupid people in the world and they affect me. You probably wouldn't like my solution to that particular problem so I don't go around whining about it.
Yes, there are stupid people in the world and they affect me. You probably wouldn't like my solution to that particular problem
Easy there thanos.
supply and demand
Correct. If we as consumers want better prices we should collectively vote with our wallets. Collectively as in all of us.
vote with our wallets.
Agreed, but focus on "wallets", and not on "increasing government regulation". Anyway, I think we agree that it's a bad thing, just differ on how bad and what responses it warrants.
If I can get the LTE version but with 64GB for the same price, would I better go with 256GB WIFI or 64GB 4G?
Depends if you would prefer traveling with it or having more space
My work stuffs are all in my google drive, I don't use iphone, so no icloud for photo storage, I guess the LTE would probably better fit here?
Again depends how far and how often you're away from Wifi. I'm always basically connected to home or office wifi, with my phone as a hotspot if I really need it on those rare occasions, so for me personally the 256GB Wifi would be better. YMMV.
LTE for the convenience.
cheers, I think the same, 256 is a bit overkill :D
Porn. Space is never overkill.
why get the LTE version when you can just hotspot your phone?
This is how I do it now. First iPad I got had cellular and then you've got to get its own plan.
I've got more data than I need with my phone so just hotspot. Also with iOS its really simple to hotspot between iPhone and iPad.
Because you really want to mount a souped-up iPad GPS car navigation station or just be able to play Ingress/Pokemon Go that requires a cellular-equipped iPad lol
the phone battery drains too fast with hotspot on
For travel it’s much better. You can keep your phone sim in your phone and buy a new one in another country for the iPad. Battery in your phone drains faster when it’s hot spotting. And everything stays up to date on the iPad no rush of notifications etc when you manually connect to your phone etc.
I’m still on a legacy $50/year Telstra prepaid, but you can often get a $5 sim once every 6 months from other providers etc, or only when traveling. If you want to use data heavily then you can connect to your phone / Wi-Fi.
If you also plan to use it whilst travelling in some countries it's more expensive to get a phone plan with hot spotting included.
I was just in the US and had to pay an extra $30US per month so that I could hot spot from my phone for my tablet. If my tablet was LTE then I could just swap the SIM card between the 2 devices.
Bought a refurb from this outfit before. Arrived on time, can't even tell it's a refurb (they did a good job), no markings or dents or scratches, has been working flawlessly for a year now.
get the ebay gift card with 10% off to further reduce the cost to $719 and if you are lucky enough to get the TRS back as well…$646 (GST of $799)
Probably an import, just one year warranty
Yeah I saw this as well
Even if you go to Harvey norman they would only tell you about one year manufacturer's warranty, that doesn't mean they are sellling import stuff.
For those interested 2x [Refurb + Grey Import] iPad Pro 10.5" 512 GB Space Grey $1208 delivered using coupon code PACKAGE20 - $604 each
Combine with 10% off ebay gift cards for further discount - Makes it $543.60 each
I think you have to pay extra 10%GST + delivery
I have posted final price in my comment. Ebay usually adds GST at checkout but I don't see it there anymore may be because it's $1000+
Thanks mate.
I got a targeted 10% off voucher, if I choose 1, I have to pay GST AU $68.12 + AU $41.17 postage. If I choose 2 units with PACKAGE20, only pay AU $56.26 for postage for two ipads, no GST. Make me confused.
@huhuu77: I haven't made any large purchases since the changes to gst on imports. why is there no gst charged when its over $1k?
Refurbed grey import?
I commend your courage.
Did you have anything in mind for same price? even second hand?
Your commendation has been revoked.
Can't get codes "PACKAGE20" or "PARTY19" to work
Only code that seems to work on this iPad is "PLUG5"
PACKAGE20 works on 2x items
A new version might be coming next month
New iPad coming soon!
512GB is $999 with eBay Plus.
Is this the current generation? I need to buy an iPad for kids school device for next year and this seems pretty competitive (nearly $1170 on Apple for 256Gb Space Grey) but we have been told it must be the current generation. I know I can get the smaller 9.7" 128Gb Space Grey, but thinking a bit larger all round is worth another couple of hundred as I have eBay Plus. Does anyone know if I am still able to add AppleCare to these models within 30 days of purchase?
Screw the schools recommendation.
The Pro will be more than capable regardless of whether it is the latest gen or not.
Yeah, 10.5" was only introduced in the latest generation… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad_Pro#Second_generation
The latest gen is 6th gen released this year. It’s at a cheaper price point than a pro, apple pencil compatible and aimed towards students
Nice deal was looking for a deal with the larger model
I am tempted to buy…but would it be much cheaper to hold off buying now until the new version is released? what is the extent of price drop when the new ipad pro is released?
Would've bought a year ago, but so close to the new one's now…
It is about 450 lower then RRP even the new one released price won't drop than much. look the price for ipad 5th gen only dropped about 20%
Anyone received their iPad from this deal yet? I paid last week and it says it will be another week before it's delivered.
It mentions that it comes with express shipping but further down says 5 days handling time.
deal price isAU $887.78, typical Jacking behaviour.