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[VIC] Free Admission @ Islamic Museum of Australia

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Tomorrow The Islamic Council of Victoria are having open days at many of their mosques, as they have for the last couple of years. As part of this they are also opening the Islamic Museum of Australia for free to the public. As they note, gold coin donation is welcome but not required. It's normally $12 for adults and $10 for concession.

They will have the following activities:

Guided Tours: 10am, 12pm and 3pm

Meet and Greet Bachar Houli, Richmond Football Club: 1 - 2pm

Ramadan Lecture by Ismail Davids: 11am

Kids Activity - Build Your Own Mosque: 11am - 2pm

Book Reading: Aneesa and Jamal go to Masjid: 2pm

There is also a sausage sizzle for a gold coin donation.

There is more information here about the open day and mosques that are participating in the open day.

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    • +1

      Agree or lock the thread!!!

      • +3

        Just remove thread, too many unpublished comments.

        Obviously it's a heated topic ATM, this is a very stupid post and should be removed or placed in forum

        I don't want to see this crap in here and not bagging on any Muslim, so don't bother with the stupid comments, even if it were Cristian/orthodox or Catholic which I am. Religion bs needs to stay where it praised and that's that, it doesn't need to be posted in a deals section when we come here to find purchases at a good price

        • +1

          But… it's a deal? I'm not religious at all and have no interest in the bible deals (aside from enjoying the comments), but my lack of interest doesn't make a discount somehow not a deal.

          Lock the comments, but leave the deal up, because it's indisputably a deal.

  • +21

    Islamic Museum of Australia

    yeah, I'll give it a shot.

    but seriously, as an asian dude who did comparative religions as elective at uni, i visited a mosque in fitzroy in the late 90s

    every one there was really welcoming.

    a group of young dudes invited me around to their place to hang out.

    a couple of blokes who didn't speak english shook my hand and welcomed me.

    it was the same when i went to the St Kilda road synagogue, Richmond anglican church, Richmond evangelical Church, and several others that escape me now.

    if you're not in to religion then it is worth going to a church to remind your self of what it offers. not that I follow any christian/judeo/muslim religion. but still, the sense of community and belonging can be refreshing.

    If you are ever in Kuala Lumpur then visit the Islam museum of architecture. it is really really great.

    • +6

      I've never been to one and I felt a little apprehensive going to a mosque tomorrow (as part of the open day that this part of) because I don't really know if I'm supposed to do anything, but what has happened has steeled my resolve. Lots of friends going with flowers who wouldn't ordinarily. A small light in all this hate.

      • +7

        just watch what everyone else does and do the same. take your shoes off before you enter.

        • +1

          Thankyou.

      • +2

        A small light in all this hate.

        Nope. This is a blinding light of love in the face of pitiful hate that hides in the shadows and behind keyboards. The quiet majority is always peaceful.

    • +11

      every one there was really welcoming

      The first victim of the terrorist attack welcomed the shooter as "Hello Brother" only to receive the reply of 3 bullets. Talk about contrast between love and hate.

    • +1

      If this was in Perth, and I had nothing to do, I'd probably give it a shot too, even though I disagree with most of it. I doubt it would change my mind about Islam, but it could be interesting to hear what they have to say.

      • +4

        Well, while Muslim's open their doors to welcome outsiders, even in the face of a terrorist act against Islam, and you bang on about how you disagree with most of it and wont change your mind about Islam but that it could be 'interesting', the rest of us will just shake our heads reading your words. Nothing will you change your mind about 'Islam' because you've become so limited by the confines of your cynicism. Islam isn't some homogenous beast. It's an entire landscape of different cultures, good and bad, just like any other major religion. I'm not Christian but I don't 'disagree with Christianity', or Buddhism or any of them. All of them have principles I agree with, and principles I don't. But all of them, for the most part, are filled with people for whom these religions are part of their culture and heritage and there's nothing wrong with that. That rigidity of thought you have there, that lack of ability to appreciate that these things are so incredibly nuanced - it leaves you disconnected from the world around you.

        • +1

          I'm sure I agree and disagree with other religion's principles too.

          You can say how great Islam is and all that, but reading and hearing about what happens in Muslim-majority countries is why I'm so "rigid" in my way of thinking.

          • @ozhunter: Again, you're in a prison of cynicism and rigidity. Your lack of experience and education is showing, you should hide it better.

            • +1

              @MessyG: You can try educate me about how good Islam is all you want, but seeing things like in this link doesn't help to persuade me https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/11/human-rights-l…

              • +1

                @ozhunter: I'm not here to educate you. You refuse to be educated. Cherrypicking articles from the Internet is in the manifesto too. Keep going though, you're outing yourself more and more as a terrorist sympathiser every second.

                • +4

                  @MessyG:

                  you're outing yourself more and more as a terrorist sympathiser every second.

                  Sounds like typical feminist spiel to me. Just keep calling those you disagree with names. I guess bigot and racist are so last year?

                  • +1

                    @ozhunter: Mate I'm not the one repeating stuff from the manifesto of a guy who chased a three year old down the street and shot him.

                    • @MessyG: Miss G, I upvoted the deal as it is legitimate deal, however you are doing a bad job at defending Islam. There is just way too much hate in your comments. You talk about tolerance but you show none.

                • +1

                  @MessyG:

                  a terrorist sympathiser every second

                  A terrorist sympathiser is not someone who disagrees with Islam. A terrorist sympathiser is someone who condones, incites and/or carries out violence towards another group. Critiquing the treatment of women, except lesbians is not the same as being a terrorist sympathiser.

    • +2

      I'm not religious, it's not worth me going there.

      I rather play my PS or Xbox, just mho

      • Thanks for letting us know.

        • Anytime :)

  • Admin please lock this thread, there's too many terrorist sympathisers here. It's a legit bargain that unfortunately has brought out the worst in many people.

    • +17

      Respectfully disagreeing with some of the ideas of Islam and expressing disquiet about the behaviour of some who claim to be followers is not the same as sympathising with terrorists. As we have seen with the sexual abuse scandal and domestic violence no-one should be immune from criticism.

      I appreciate that many are grieving and I grieve with them.

      • +5

        No. Domestic violence directly affects our community and is killing one woman a week. Sex abuse has directly affected 1 in 3 Australians. The 'ideas from Islam', cherry picked without context to suit an ideology is not 'respecfully disagreeing with some of the ideas of Islam'. It is a particularly insidious form of hate speech.

        • +4

          With respect to domestic violence, I was thinking about this article: Domestic violence in the church: When women are believed, change will happen.

          • +2

            @mathew42: See all of these things like domestic violence and sex abuse and oppression of women etc etc that people point to specific religions as being the root cause for, aren't caused by religion at all. Every woman knows this. Someone on here mentioned that women tend to be 'lefty' but if that's true it's only because we know that these things aren't isolated to any one group at all. They are an evil widespread throughout all society, all cultures, and all religions, and hidden in different ways with different words. I laugh when people tell me Islam oppresses women - most women do. As I said, one woman a week is being killed by a male Australian in this country and I'm told I'm supposed to be afraid of Muslims? We aren't. Because we know that the people who harm and kill aren't Muslim, they're not white males, they're literally everyone.

            • +7

              @MessyG:

              See all of these things like domestic violence and sex abuse and oppression of women etc etc that people point to specific religions as being the root cause for, aren't caused by religion at all

              So naive to think that religion has no influence at all. https://womenintheworld.com/2019/03/11/iranian-lawyer-who-de…

              I wonder how many Muslim-majority countries there are that you would consider better for women instead of the US, UK, and Australia

              • -2

                @ozhunter: Listen you can keep up your terrorist sympathy all you like but you reveal yourself for what you are and it's not good. And whatabouttism has been done to death, no one cares.

                • +10

                  @MessyG: Care to elaborate on the "terrorist sympathy"?

                  • +1

                    @ozhunter: Nope, it's plain for all to see and the fact that you can't see it speaks to it even more. All of your Islamophobia is proudly on display.

            • +15

              @MessyG:

              I laugh when people tell me Islam oppresses women - most women do.

              Interesting statement when you consider that most countries where Islam is the dominant religion that women are oppressed by Western standards. A few examples are:
              * Lack of property rights for women in marriage, especially when considering the ease of divorce
              * Child marriage
              * The prophet said,"Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes". He said, " This is deficiency of her mind". (Sahih Bukhari: Book of Witnesses: Chapter witness of women: Hadith no. 2658)
              * Polygamy

              It is challenging to argue against these when you consider the life of the Prophet Mohammed since he engaged in all of these activities.

              • -2

                @mathew42: 1 woman a week is dying in Australia due to domestic violence so stop cherrypicking some other religion and various individual cultures to make me look over there. I wont. All that shit is terrorist speak, it's in his manifesto. Check out the bible sometime. Women are still laughing at this anti-Islamic bullshit because again, one woman a week is dying in Australia. Women literally get raped and murdered walking home from work. Save it for the rest of the white supremacists terrorist who I'm sure nod furiously in agreement.

                • +22

                  @MessyG: You are using the exact argument that you falsely accuse me of making. Ignore the statement I make, instead accuse the statement of being terrorist speak and try to distract by pointing out the murder of women. Please don't confuse terrorist speak with polite disagreement of your point of view.

                  If you are going to accuse Jesus of being oppressing women, then at least provide some references.

                  • -1

                    @mathew42: Sorry you felt ignored but you missed the part where I completely disagreed with you. Your list of Islamic wrongdoings against women is all very nice, but you're not a woman staring down the barrel of women dying all around you. You've clearly worked so hard to find your anti-woman views in Islam, it's even more telling that you've not done the same for Christianity. Everything you've said, and so many others on this thread, has been repeated in the manifesto of a man who gunned down a little kid in the name of those words, so yes it very very much is terrorist speak. Sorry to burst that righteous pro-woman bubble you've got going on there but it's nothing of the kind.

                    • +15

                      @MessyG:

                      You've clearly worked so hard to find your anti-woman views in Islam, it's even more telling that you've not done the same for Christianity.

                      I've been working so very hard to not engage in a slanging match. Wikipedia nicely summarises the oppression of women in Islam and their treatment in Muslim dominated countries confirms this. A reasonable rebuttal would be to take each of the points and explain where my understanding is wrong.

                      I haven't read the manifesto so I'm not quoting from it. From the couple of quotes I've read it appears to be ramblings of a deeply troubled person. Terrorist speak is condoning, inciting and carrying out violence. Criticising someone's opinions while supporting their right to hold them is not terrorist speak.

    • +11

      The last thing we need is more censorship.
      MissG please don't forget that issues can only be resolved in one of two ways: Violence or Conversation.
      The latter requires you to have a thick skin and the ability to disagree. Yet it also has the power to allow us to understand one another and grow through that deeper understanding. The alternative to conversation is too ugly to contemplate.

      I don't think there's as much hate here as you think. Don't confuse criticism of Islam with criticism of peaceful Muslims.
      No one in their right minds would support the horrible events that we've witnessed or the discrimination of people based on their religion.
      Peace-Love-Conversation.

      • -1

        No. You can't have that conversation without conversing with Muslims though can you? So yeah, it's hate speech when the people you're criticizing literally have no voice in that 'conversation'. Don't couch it as anything but and damn right it's terrorist speech in the way it's delivered here, and in that manifesto, and on 4chan. Go to the mosque and sit down and have that conversation for real. But don't have it here, without any Muslim to hear your 'criticism of Islam' and converse with you. Terrorists always bang on about 'censorship', ISIS did all the time.

        If you can't see the hate here then that's because you're a part of it.

        • +19

          It seems that you're determined to insult anyone that disagrees with you, so I'll leave you to it.

          • +1

            @Dingo: If you find disagreement insulting, then I think you're the one that needs to develop the thick skin.

            • +18

              @MessyG: @MissG I believe you said I'm part of the hate speech when I did nothing of the sort.

              You have been by far the main flamer in this entire thread. I hope at some point you reflect and realise this.

              • @Dingo: Telling you that criticism of Islam literally without a Muslim present is hate speech is not an insult, it's my opinion and again, you need a thicker skin.

                You can fake being a voice of moderation but again, when you argue in favour of criticizing an entire culture and religion all rolled into one without anyone from it present, I think you're the one that needs to be doing some reflecting and realising. As for flaming, I haven't heard that word since the old Usenet days - I think the word you're looking for is trolling but mate I'm neither. And gaslighting me into thinking I am somehow the problem amongst the truckloads of racism in this thread makes me think that you might be part of that ilk too. Sorry if you find that insulting.

                • +16

                  @MessyG: Lol, is anyone allowed to hate some aspects of Islam or Christianity? If I say, "I hate peanut butter", is that hate speech too? A Muslim being present is irrelevant.

                • +2
                • +7

                  @MessyG: I think your broad view of hate speech to include criticism of Islam without a Muslim present diminishes actual hate speech as defined in law. If we are to use your definition then academic and journalistic criticism of Islam without Muslim involvement is also hate speech. Rational criticism of any topic absent of discrimination or vilification is permissible speech.

        • +7

          So yeah, it's hate speech when the people you're criticizing literally have no voice in that 'conversation'

          Hate Speech "unlawful for a person to do an act, otherwise than in private, if the act is reasonably likely, in all the circumstances, to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people; and the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the other person, or of some or all of the people in the group."

          Firstly, clearly you do have a voice and are calling for censorship of opinions that disagree with you. I'd suggest there are also other Muslims in this thread. To dismiss arguments as hate speech or terrorist propaganda with little explanation as to why is poor form.

  • +13

    wow, reading some of comments.

    really exposes the members who are the small minded hypocritical bigots.

    quite disappointing.

    • +4

      Honestly, doesnt surprise me, I can barely be bothered commenting here as much now days given the short sighted, narrow minded, often selfish views of ozb of late. Now this post has really put me off. Cudos to you, MissG and a few others whom can still hold your heads up high.

      • +4

        Don't worry Cloudy, take a break from it all. This is easy for me. I'm a mother. I saw a 3 year old boy running away and a grown man shooting and killing him. I'm also a grandaughter. He shot old men in the back. That grown' man's 'manifesto' was stuffed full of all the same speech I've seen on here time and again. And now that man is a terrorist, he has outed everyone using that speech as terrorist sympathisers. He has given all of this a name and I'm very very happy to use that name. I would suggest that anyone using that speech, even if they think it is casual or benign, to take a good hard look at themselves and ask if that really reflects their values or if perhaps they have these views to cover for some unarticulated pain.

        • +1

          he has outed everyone using that speech as terrorist sympathisers

          Firstly the manifesto is a rambling collection of ideas including trolling and memes. The murderer claimed to be an eco-fascits who self identify as put the wellbeing of our earth, nature and animal on the forefront of their ideology. Stand up in the average Greens meeting and you would be given a warm round of applause.

    • -4

      Some one asked the most upvoted, offtopic, comment "no thanks" , "why not" and nobody is answering them why not.

      Safe to assume it's either willful ignorance, Islamaphobic, racism and / or support for the mass murderer.

      Concerns about a mass shooting at the venue are completely unfounded, because #1, it's Australia, and #2: looking at the past shootings at religious venues were because the killer wanted to kill a particular demographic. There will be too many demographics represented at this museum that it will make a targeted mass shooting impractical.
      I read some websites said the NZ killer would not shoot any white NZ police unless required, and if he was forced to, he'd try to shoot the arms and legs only.

      Quite a lot of people who [+] the earlier comment

      pal
      kaboomxyu
      PainToad
      miq
      edgar28
      hieucd97
      bti_jet
      Godric
      Jonski
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      POSITIVEVIBESONLY
      Merlict
      john-connor
      HungryRussian
      cumquat
      naniktaish
      metalhead
      geeluv
      DaTa
      Amie
      auna
      millzy
      Barbequemilk
      8200
      Kevinlxjin
      dodgybrothers
      groobz
      nanick
      jdreamer
      bikboy
      User245246
      gooddealmate
      errorius
      MadMaxBargainRoad
      Coal Fact0R
      Nivlac
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      EssendonUser
      Mag05
      Dagmar
      TheDukeOfNukem
      robredo
      Nishi77
      freakatronic
      lowDmax
      willy000
      bonjovi
      philmccracken
      holla4adollar
      Bargain Bug
      Johny Scene
      tianyujojo
      veetor
      T-man
      KneeOnLites
      pennypincher98
      Myright
      RiseAndRuin
      fycycy64
      cheaponos
      Jamie007
      PanahKH
      sachy
      seanneko
      4foxache
      NalB
      SamR
      nurbsenvi
      yct
      bataleon
      Bartley69
      Jumpup
      ChiMot
      worrierwan
      benderz
      addison666
      beingpaul
      FireRunner
      Rozza
      Trishool
      Potedude
      icecream
      daitro

      • At least tell us that you did not manually type out all those usernames.

        Safe to assume it's either willful ignorance, Islamaphobic, racism and / or support for the mass murderer.

        I'd say it was because of the last one, amongst other things

        • Just copied and pasted the names down

          • @Blitzfx: Oh ok, because I was going to say, that anyone can just click the votes tab and it will show who voted positive.

            • @ozhunter: Ah, yeah I just pulled it from where you mentioned, in case after I called them out, they'd go back and rescind their vote….

              People would have had to go out of their way to unhide the comment and vote; and not a single one answered the follow up question, even now, and I suspect for egregious reasons.

      • I assumed people said ‘no thanks’ because they consider it an unsafe place to go at the moment.

        • +1

          If a museum is unsafe then terrorism has won.

          • @King Steuart: A lot of people don't like being called out on it apparently

            • -1

              @Blitzfx: Called out on what? Not wanting to go even if something's free?

    • not like you didn't know that……this site is riddled with small minded individuals who are scared of their own shadows

  • +8

    Knew the prejudice would be strong in this thread before I even opened it. Blown away by how dead set prejudice some people really are. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

    • +5

      Haters are the same haters, it's just they've become shameless too.

    • -1

      I guess you've never spoken ill of Christianity or Catholicism or any other mainstream religion? And of course, you'd call out those who did, right?

  • +6

    Busy night for you mods, but you're doing good work, thanks.

    • -1

      I wish they'd close the thread I want to go to bed.

      • +2

        Fair call, they probably should. I don't think there's anything related to the deal that has been uncovered in the comments at all, you could pretty much go through and flag every single post comment offtopic and you'd be 99% or higher correct.

        • +2

          you could pretty much go through and flag every single post comment offtopic and you'd be 99% or higher correct.

          This could be applied to 80% of the comments on the site some days.

          • @serpserpserp: True, but they're generally entertaining so I don't mind. This one is just depressing me about the state of the world in general, and Australia in particular.

            I do like that they've (correctly) flagged my post up above as off topic though, so that's something to cheer me up. Now if they'd just go back and do the same to almost everyone else…

            • @ely: Have been doing some reporting of the many (top level) off topic posts still remaining un-offtopic-ed. Mods are probably worn out from their work this evening, or maybe have just given up, but forgot to lock.

  • +6

    Wow, humanity. Tsk.

  • +1

    I would be staying away from mosques atm, tensions are high.

    • +6

      Not towards people bring flowers and sympathy. I'm not afraid.

  • -7

    Nothing to see there that isn't readily available elsewhere

    • +11

      Yeah you’re right. Next time Taronga Zoo is free just google “Zoo Animals” and save yourself the trip

      • Is Taronga zoo free on my birthday still?

        • I think it’s $1 on your birthday.

  • -1

    I really don't know why the mods haven't locked this thread, most of it has been unpublished because it's too racist even for Ozb or off-topic.

    • When you say ‘lock this thread’ do you mean block comments or remove the thread?

      • Just stop allowing any more comments. It's going in circles.

        • True. They’ll probably do it soon (just before they go to bed). Speaking of bed, goodnight everybody.

    • +3

      I understand your sentiment MissG but there's not really any racism going on here. If anything it's Xenophobia or Islamophobia.

      I think despite many of the off topic comments it is interesting to see some discussion on the opinions expressed, which is the best way to change minds after all.

      Not to mention it is also a deal :)

      • I don't expect any minds to get changed. I do hope for the readers who don't know how to express themselves in the face of this ugliness, I've given them some words to characterise what is happening here.

        • +7

          Sadly what you've done as I've questioned your views is accused me of being a terrorist sympathiser. Others you've accused of being closed minded and poorly educated. You've requested censorship of opinions you disagree with, but are unable to define Kurds as terrorists or freedom fighters. I appreciate this is a time of grief and mourning so I'll stop with the criticism at this point.

          Violence against anyone is abhorrent and should be condemned. I mourn for those who've lost love ones and the wider community who share their pain and have lost of innocence. I blame politicians who stir up nationalism and seek to divide communities instead of seeking out the best in humanity.

  • +4

    I’m here for the [comment unpublished].

  • Not one upvote from any usernames with pork or sausage.

    Even the + votes are halal

  • +11

    Are homosexuals allowed?

    • +1

      Looking for Grindr date ideas?

    • +1

      Yes, everyone is welcome. With the obvious exception of anyone who wishes to do them harm.

    • Their not allowed in Judiasm and Christianity as well FYI.

  • +5

    This is the juiciest comment section in ozb to date i reckon

    edit: the mods must be refreshing this page almost every second hah

    • Mods probably fear mob backlash if they delete such a controversial deal.

    • Everything juicy either gets removed (inflammatory/inappropriate/trolling) or marked off topic.

  • +3

    Why ppl think this is not a deal? By saving $12 is a bloody good deal ;)

    • +1

      save even more by not going in the first place. just like any other paid deal.

    • Agreed.
      That's why we +vote

  • +8

    Judging by the fact that there are more comments I cannot read than the ones I can, there is definitely something wrong with us as a society.
    I wonder if that would have still been the case if the post was about just any other Museum, other than the “I” word.

  • +2

    I feel like I've missed some fine drama. Let us know, those who do go if it was worth your time, any interesting exhibits, etc.

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