Vodafone Endless Data $35/Mth for 12 Months w/ Unlimited Calls/Text & Data Capped at 1.5Mbps after 25GB

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Vodafone is currently running a 6 days promotion for their Endless Data SIM only mobile plans. For $35/month ($40/month plan with $5 off each month for 12 months), you get

  • Unlimited calls & text
  • 25GB data at "max speed"
  • "Unlimited data" capped at 1.5Mbps

Meanwhile the other Endless Data plans also received $5-$10 off/month discount for 12 months:

  • 60GB data at max speed for $45/month (was $50/month, offer ends 18 June)
  • 100GB data at max speed for $50/month (was $60/month, offer ends 28 May)
  • 150GB data at max speed for $70/month (was $80/month, offer ends 28 May)
This is part of Click Frenzy deals for 2020

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Comments

  • +7 votes

    not really endless data, as it has an end at 25gb

    • +11 votes

      So you're saying it actually ends at 25GB? OR it continues, making it.. endless?

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        Heretic…

      • +8 votes

        its like those ISP that ACC fined for saying unlimited data but capped you after so much

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          Except it’s not and that’s why they don’t say unlimited. The accc investigated these plans when they launched and Vodafone and Telstra changed the descriptions accordingly.
          Endless data is acceptable as a description as far as they are concerned.

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            @jimbobaus: where was that report published?

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              @asa79: Let me google that for you:

              https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/telcos-on-notice-about...

              The investigation was launched ACCC put them on notice, the teleco's changed their plan descriptions and names and the investigation went away.

              Endless was considered clearer and more concise than using the word "unlimited"

              Unlimited implied that your would have unlimited data at full speed where endless only implies that the data does not run out. They also had to make it clearer when the slower speeds kick in and at what speed you are reduced too.

              Given they have been calling it endless for almost 2 years now its safe to say the ACCC is ok with the term.

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                @jimbobaus: Did you miss this part

                "The Court found they falsely conveyed to consumers that Telstra provided plans offering unlimited usage of its mobile network when in fact its services, including mobile data services, were always subject to use limitations and exclusions.

                Following the Federal Court’s findings and the ACCC’s interactions, all three retailers ceased using the headline claim of ‘unlimited’ to advertise their mobile data services. "

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                  @asa79: I am not sure about Telstra but i know Vodafone withdrew the name and changed the description without going to court
                  I was working at VHA at the time and was fully involved in the implementation of these plans
                  (i did say this would happen prior to the plan release)

                  If i remember correctly, Telstra stood its ground,
                  VHA plans were first to market and were changed within a week of launch as the ACCC was sniffing around etc

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                    @jimbobaus: Following the Federal Court’s findings and the ACCC’s interactions, all three retailers ceased using the headline claim of ‘unlimited’ to advertise their mobile data services. "

                    So where is the one saying that its ok for vodafone to use "endless data"

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                      @asa79: 1) Vodafone did not go to court , it was Telstra that was taken to court. Vodafone changed their plans within 7 days of launch and the court action occured much later. Yes Vodafone was part of the 3 that changed their descriptions but it was not due to a court order

                      2) The plans were changed to Endless data, this was submitted to the ACCC and they approved it hence why they are called Endless Plans now

                      If the ACCC was not ok with Endless as a description then VHA would not have been allowed to use it in their advertising for almost 2 years. They would of been taken to court and/or Fined.

                      I am not going to get into it with you anymore, its obvious to anyone that Endless and Unlimited are different in their implications and the ACCC would not let the term Endless be used for this long if there was a problem. As someone who was on the inside of this entire process when it happened i can tell you the ACCC has no issues with Endless so your statement that the term Endless is like when Optus was fined for saying "unlimited" on their home cable/adsl plans is incorrect.

                      The term Unlimited was the issue, that word has not been used for some time and all carriers offering speed limiting now use terms that the ACCC has deemed acceptable

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                        @jimbobaus: the link you send says"

                        Earlier this year the ACCC began investigating Optus, Vodafone and Telstra’s use of the term ‘unlimited’ to promote mobile data plans, concurrent with private litigation brought by Optus against Telstra in the Federal Court.

                        "

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                        @jimbobaus: It sounds like you have some facts incorrect in your argument there

              • -1 vote

                @jimbobaus: Guess you read it on the facebook that they were ok with it, but on the site you linked they had to change it

    • +3 votes

      The data doesn't end - the speed is capped at 25Gb.

    • +7 votes

      it has an end at 25gb

      it doesn't, its speed capped. The data keeps going at a slower speed.

    • +16 votes

      Not sure why someone negged you, the endless data is pretty misleading. 1.5mbps is pretty much useless in this day and age. And $35 for 25gb is pretty expensive

      • +2 votes

        the endless data is pretty misleading

        not misleading at all. The data literally never ends.

        1.5mbps is pretty much useless in this day and age.

        You can watch 1080p videos on one device and game on another at the same time - I know because I've done it.

        • +1 vote

          Might want to reassess that there.
          If you read the FAQ HD video is incompatible with 1.5Mb/s.

          Only SD will scrape by at this speed of 187.5kb/s

          720p youtube videos require 2.5Mb/s minimum

        • +1 vote

          I used to be on a 4 down connection. If I was playing games and the wife opened facebook let alone STREAMED a video, my ping would skyrocket to 900. With 1.5 down you would only be able to play a game and turn wifi off everything else. If anything spun up a background check your ping would spike.

          • +2 votes

            @knobbs: i have a telstra 1.5mbps limited sim as failover here.

            IF you manage the traffic and prioritize appropriately you can do a lot on a 1.5mbps connection. Keep in mind these (or at least telstra) are 1.5 each way, up and down so significantly better than you'd be getting upstream on adsl if you were receiving at only 4 down.

            This is obviously out of the scope of non-IT people / layman though.

            • +1 vote

              @knk: I was impressed with my Telstra failover data service as well. Youtube was running around clock.

            • +1 vote

              @knk: Yeah I had my rt-ac68u setup for prioritising gaming and everything. Still didn't help. I think a large portion of it was the upload as well.

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                @knobbs: Yeah those are probably not going to do the job, most consumer grade qos is too general and 1.5mbps isn't much to play with.

                I use Mikrotik gear with specific rules to tag traffic appropriately and push that into queues. It works well.

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          1080p is not possible with 1.5Mbps, but its good enough for watching 480p without buffering. I find it much better than nothing, so I would say its still usable.

        • +3 votes

          Well if we're being really technical, it's not endless because if I stop paying for it, it will end.

          Let's be real here, anybody with enough usage to reach 25 GB is not going to be able to sustain that usage at 1.5mbps, so its a pretty big oversell.

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          https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/mobiles-tablets/...

          What does 1.5 Mbps mean?
          The ‘Mbps’ part is an abbreviation of ‘megabits per second’. It is used as a measure of internet speeds. This is literally the number of megabits your internet or mobile connection can download in a second. 1.5Mbps is not suitable for HD videos or high speed applications.

          What can I do with 1.5 Mbps?

          • A speed of 1.5Mbps allows basic internet browsing and social media use, although your pages may be slower to load.
          • It’s also enough to watch video streaming services like Netflix and YouTube in standard definition. But you may get some buffering and pausing.
          • You can also listen to music streaming services like Spotify using a 1.5Mbps connection.
    • +5 votes

      Well technically when it “ends” it’s “less”

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      It is still endless data, because you are not actually paying $10 per GB. Instead of paying that, you're capped at 1.5 Mbps which is still usable on YouTube, Spotify and others, it will still work fine.

      Telstra also does 1.5 Mbps as well. Nothing new.

      EDIT: Belong Mobile has unlimited data as well but capped at 64 Kbps this won't be usable for YouTube at all but the 1.5 Mbps can handle YouTube without problem on 1080p

      • +3 votes

        It's mega bits per second which is 188 kilobytes per second. Pretty much useless after 25gb

        • -4 votes

          It is not useless. It still loads YouTube on 1080p at 188 kilobytes per second (1.5 Mbps), Reddit, Spotify they work fine mate.

          Belong Mobile capped at 64 Kbps that wont handle YouTube.

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            @jmytch: just FYI 1.5Mbps is 480p streaming max, 720p requires 2.5Mbps and 1080p 3.0+Mbps

            • +1 vote

              @Drakesy: It doesn't actually, I've also got the 1.5Mbps unlimited data sim from Telstra and 720p streams fine.
              The actual bitrate it uses on Youtube tends to be 1300-1400 Kbps and not as high as you say.
              You can go have a look at the telstra sim deal comments page for yourself if you still doubt.

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                @Kikkoman56:

                I've also got the 1.5Mbps unlimited data sim from Telstra and 720p streams fine.

                confirmed my TV box can stream 720p on Youtube fine with no buffering while on the 1.5mbps capped

          • +2 votes

            @jmytch: I'm just going to leave this link here for you. Technically you can stream youtube at 1080p, but there will be stuttering/long pauses in between.

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            @jmytch: Reddit? Ok skins are pretty animated these days only movements change?

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    How to sign up? Cal centre only for emergency

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    Can it be used in a modem for a whole family?

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    hm…they say it's for new services only, is there any way to get it for existing customer?

  • +9 votes

    People are getting confused here. 1.5MB (megaBYTES) per second is enough for streaming on one device at 1080p. 1.5Mb (megaBITS) per second is certainly not (that's 150 kiloBYTES). The most you'll be able to do is load OzBargain and a few memes on reddit. This deal kinda sucks for any general user but it might be good for some cases.

    • -1 vote

      Yeah I'm confused about that too, and you are correct it does load Ozbargain, reddit, YouTube at 1080p, Spotify etc just fine. With Belong Mobile after the data is used, they capped to 64 Kbps that is even worse which wouldn't be watchable at 1080p on YouTube.

      64 Kbps is a big NO, but 1.5 Mbps is acceptable and it's fine. I don't understand people fuss about it

      • +1 vote

        Mate you might want to read my reply again. 1.5Mbps (lowercase b = megaBITS) is the equivalent of roughly 150 kiloBYTES (more accurately 188 as @coolhand said below). Also, the Boost Mobile plan is 64KBps not 64Kbps.

    • +6 votes

      Just to make this clearer 1.5Mbps is 188 kilobytes per second max speed after 25gb.

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      not 1080p SD only with buffering and pausing

      https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/mobiles-tablets/...

      What does 1.5 Mbps mean?
      The ‘Mbps’ part is an abbreviation of ‘megabits per second’. It is used as a measure of internet speeds. This is literally the number of megabits your internet or mobile connection can download in a second. 1.5Mbps is not suitable for HD videos or high speed applications.

      What can I do with 1.5 Mbps?

      • A speed of 1.5Mbps allows basic internet browsing and social media use, although your pages may be slower to load.
      • It’s also enough to watch video streaming services like Netflix and YouTube in standard definition. But you may get some buffering and pausing.
      • You can also listen to music streaming services like Spotify using a 1.5Mbps connection.
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        It's not SD only with buffering and pausing, there's been several of us with real experience in using a 1.5Mbit data sim for streaming that have shared as such already. Youtube doesn't like to choose 720p when you're on this speed by default but you can pick it and it will stream it without stuttering. You just need to give it time to build up enough of a buffer. Ditto with Netflix, the bitrate is garbage in the beginning but if you pause for a minute or so it will up it back to 720p.

        Obviously you can do nothing else on such limited bandwidth simultaneously but saying it won't work at all is just spreading misinformation.

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    Other companies need to seriously Boost their offerings (in terms of value for money) to win the market share back.

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    I am on their old plan of $40 for 40GB data for 2 years now. Never seen a better plan than that on VF in ages. The only pain is that after every 12 months I have to call them to get another 12 months of this plan, otherwise they increase the price to $45.

    PS. Just noticed bunch of other plans of 60 GB and 100 GB, they seem good value too if anyone needs that much of data.

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      Lebara gives you 45GB for 40 Dollars and it data banks up to 200 GB and uses the same towers.

      • +1 vote

        Thanks, that's interesting. Lebara uses the same network as Vodafone and it looks like its a full network not restricted. In any case, I will stick with VF for now. I get further 5% off due to having their NBN.

        PS. I didn't neg you but + you to make it neutral :P

  • +7 votes

    So theoretically you could get around 526GB downloaded total even after capping if you ran this 24/7/31.

    Average Aussie 4G = 37Mb/s down.
    25GB / 37Mb = 5405 seconds to download 25GB at average 4G speed.

    31 days * 24 hours * 60 minutes * 60 seconds = 2678400 seconds in a month.

    2678400 seconds - 5405 seconds = 2672995 seconds of 1.5Mb/s download.

    1.5Mb * 2672995 seconds = 4009492.5Mb of data in total @ 1.5Mb/s.

    4009492.5Mb / 8000 = ~501GB (conversion from Mb to GB).

    501GB + 25GB = 526GB.

    • +6 votes

      So theoretically you could get around 526GB downloaded total even after capping if you ran this 24/7/31.

      You won't be able to run it 24/7/31 in February, April, June, September and November….

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        The average month is generally accepted as having 30.4375 days next time someone tries to do this math.

        Also nostalgia for the Good ole days of 10GB/mth on dialup.

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        There is a reason why OP specifically mentioned 24/7/31. Instead of 24/7.

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    interesting proposition.

    BUT i always have a soft spot for Reduced speed in stead of $ bump ups

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    1.5Mbps was what I was getting until recently on NBN fixed wireless every day from around lunchtime onwards, and that cost me $75/month. (Fortunately they've recently done something about the horrible congestion in my area so its much better.)

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    An extra five dollars in Telstra get me double the towers, 3x the GB total today, before slowing.

    This all said, I salute Voda's more adventurous spirit in 2015 LTE, chugging along at 15 Mbps: zero rated (weekends). A tangible differentiator if Standalone New Radio network dares do it again .

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    ACCC should step in

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      All providers sell thin air collectively so turn them all off or let them get away with it?

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      They did in 2018 (took Telstra to court)
      Plan descriptions were changed
      Current descriptions are deemed acceptable

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    Most of the players are already offering free netflix or spotify or apple music which is still similar

  • +1 vote

    Just came for the endless data debate

  • +1 vote

    Telstra is also offering the same 1.5Mbps after you reach your cap, though $35 (for 12 months) for 25GB is a pretty good deal.

    Don't be silly, it's not unlimited data at all, this is how most reasonable mobile data has worked for a while now.

    Personally I'm switching from Telstra $50 for 30 GB to $40 for 25 GB, because Telstra want me to pay an additional $15 for 5G access, lmao.

  • +1 vote

    Worth noting that they are 100% flat out rejecting all calls atm, so if you have any support concerns, you're out of luck.

    They have the nerve to be taking on new customers and making them wait days to port their number across. S:

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    It's a reasonable deal, but Vodafone network coverage is generally terrible. I would avoid this deal because of the poor coverage. If you can live with the coverage then this could suit you. The Telstra data deal on here that offers the capped data too might be better for someone that wants the deal for that. It started out $1.25/month for 5gb of data than capped, no calls or text included though.

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      it really depends on where you live though, I have VF, Boost and Optus all in my household and I am the happiest one in terms of the coverage at home.