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ASUS Dual Band Wi-Fi 6 Gaming Router, Black, RT-AX86U $373.22 + Delivery (Free with Prime) @ Amazon UK via AU

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ASUS Dual Band Wi-Fi 6 Gaming Router, Black, RT-AX86U $373.22 + Delivery (Free with Prime) @ Amazon UK via AUAffiliate
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LnuTTeLLo on 23/09/2020 - 11:19 amazon.com.au (1840 clicks)
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First time poster so please go easy on me if I got this wrong.

Been looking out for this since I missed the Wireless1 deal of $458 earlier.

Cheapest I have been able to find so far and if you have a Prime subscription you can even take off the $29+ shipping coming at below $400 for this router.

It is UK stock but any exchanges/returns are handled by Amazon since it is from their global store.

edit: Updated that this is from Amazon UK and not Amazon US

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  • Capt0083 on 23/09/2020 - 11:35

    I have a AC87U. Is it worth to upgrade?

    • BNR32 on 23/09/2020 - 11:39

      Depends on how many AX (wifi6) devices you and how congested your area is with AC wifi

      I recently upgraded from the AC87U to the AX88U and have found hardly any difference. My ping increased by 1.5~2ms but apart from that nothing as we are a apple family with no current AX devices :-)

      • Damnsmart on 23/09/2020 - 11:41

        So, theres no real change unless you have an ax device or devices?

      • HappyBargainer on 23/09/2020 - 11:46
        -1

        Increased ping is bad as the ping needs to as low as possible. It's interesting that ax88u has worse ping performance than 87U which is an old router.

        • BNR32 on 23/09/2020 - 11:59
          +7

          Apologies dyslectic it decreased by 1.5~2ms

          • nfr on 23/09/2020 - 13:00
            +1

            @BNR32: Haha I was thinking wtf ping increased?

    • nuTTeLLo on 23/09/2020 - 11:48
      +10

      From my own perspective.

      I currently have an AC68U for many years now. Adding this for the AiMesh feature since moving into a bigger house where some areas of the house are getting weak signals dropouts and also did not want to get rid of the AC68U as it still is a very good router that still gets updates even now. I also think we have hit the threshold of how many devices the old router is able to handle at one go (20+ if my memory serves).

      Personally got this to stop the missus complaining about the sometimes poor wifi performance sometimes and also might as well future proof it a little with WiFi6 capability.

      Granted if you have not got any hardware in the house that uses WiFi 6, this might not be as useful (I can only think of more recent smartphones and iPads that have it).

      If your AC87U is still working fine, I personally don't think there is a reason to upgrade. Not as if our internet speeds can ever hit the capacity of any router manufactured in the last 7 years.

      Long story short, get this only if your current router isn't working out for you, else save the cash for something else.

      In case anyone is interested in a review of how this router fares:
      https://www.techradar.com/au/reviews/asus-rt-ax86u

      • Diji1 on 23/09/2020 - 14:09

        AC68U

        Moving up from a 68U to an 86U (1Ghz -> 1.8Ghz, 256 to 512GB) netted me a significant increase in network performance using 100Mbit WAN and I'm not a heavy user.

      • Capt0083 on 23/09/2020 - 14:57

        Thanks. The only thing AC87U missing is the AiMesh due to the strange chip it used. I’m thinking to add AiMesh because it will help me with the WiFi connection in one of my bedroom which has a solid wall between the router. Apart from AiMesh, I’m quite happy with the performance of the AC87U. WiFi 6 is not a real selling point to me at this stage.

        • yoke2018 on 07/10/2020 - 19:43

          I have this. And I regret buying it. It’s a great one, but no mesh.

    • gfunk zero on 23/09/2020 - 14:49
      +1

      I would say no, maybe in a few years when wifi 6 is more common. Its also hard to justify spending more than $300 on a router.. depends on many things though.

    • JoJoker on 24/09/2020 - 08:30

      AC87U is a good router – I'd wait.

      My R7000 is on the fritz but after looking at what's available in terms of Wifi6, I don't think it's time to upgrade yet so I've bought a Mikrotik router and turned the R7000 into just an AP. The benefit to doing it this way is that when Wifi6 APs become cheaper I can just swap out APs and have Wifi6.

      Having said that, if Ubiquiti bring out a Wifi6 dream machine that could be a better, more future-proofed route.

  • CarbonChaos on 23/09/2020 - 11:46

    Thanks OP, been waiting for this router to go on sale

  • pOOQOOr on 23/09/2020 - 11:48
    +5

    Almost pulled the trigger a few days ago for this UK version until I read the firmware of EU have lower tx power limit.
    A few lines to enable max power, not same model, but should be similar, source: https://uktechhub.com/forums/topic/ax11000-uk-australia/
    DYOR

    • CarbonChaos on 23/09/2020 - 12:10
      +4

      I just contacted Amazon support, and they confirmed this comes with AU power plug and AU firmware.

      • pOOQOOr on 23/09/2020 - 12:25

        that would be great, since we need to take the risk of bricking the router to mod CFE to change country. If it comes with AU firmware, then full power released :)

      • freeman on 23/09/2020 - 15:20
        +2

        Product from UK with AU firmware? So wired.

      • CarbonChaos on 23/09/2020 - 17:29
        +7

        So I asked the same questions to a different support rep, and was told this time it DOES have a UK power plug. Apparently the clown I spoke to last time didn't know what they were talking about. Cancelled my order :(

        • wangasm on 23/09/2020 - 23:23

          Thanks for checking, it's a shame, had to cancel my order too.

  • s1Lence on 23/09/2020 - 12:02
    +10

    "gaming" router? what's next, a gaming chair? nvm they've already done that, maybe a gaming rug?

    with most "gaming" products, you are often sold an inferior product for a higher price but people eat it up anyways because of the marketing, just add the word gaming and all of a sudden people are hooked (look at gaming chairs, headphones/headsets, keyboards, monitors, mice, mousepads or basically any other computer peripheral or tech product)

    is this also the case with routers? are there cheaper wifi 6 routers out there that will be better than this at a lower price that aren't marketed towards gamers? genuinely curious as i am in the market for such a device

    also how is the xiaomi ax3600? at less than half the price than this i am sure it is a little worse, but hard to beat such value i would think

    • DanielP2 on 23/09/2020 - 12:11
      +5

      Does this count as a gaming rug?

      https://nextlevelracing.com/products/next-level-racing-floor…

      No RGB unfortunately, so i guess thats gonna be an issue.

      • Leviathan13 on 23/09/2020 - 16:27

        Not on the rug, man

    • tids2k on 23/09/2020 - 12:11

      I second Xiaomi products. Would have bought in a flash if XIAOMI AX3 supported OpenWRT.

    • nuTTeLLo on 23/09/2020 - 12:16

      Never even heard of the Xiaomi one tbh. But seeing as it is ax3600 and this is an ax5700 speed router, I would say 2100 ax/s?? So really what it would mean is more antenna 'bands' for a higher throughput. My use case is also a little different, getting this to pair with a current AiMesh router to setup a mesh network so I do not waste a currently perfectly working one.

      Agreed the 'gaming' naming is marketing speak but reviews have put Asus' 8xU series of routers as great routers overall, not just for gaming but for general use as well. Just a little on the pricier side maybe with that gaming prefix attached.

    • Diji1 on 23/09/2020 - 14:14
      +1

      True but there are also many products that offer distinct gaming features and are not inferior.

      "Gaming router" typically means router with the same features as any other assuming you can flash firmware.

    • gfunk zero on 23/09/2020 - 14:34

      gaming router, the main feature is if you are playing a game and someone starts a very fast/large download/upload the router will ensure the game has "quality of service" so the game runs fine and the download/upload speed is throttled.

      • Drakster on 23/09/2020 - 19:07
        +2

        Quality of service (GoS) has existed in routers for decades. Although this may be included automatically on these, this should be able to be setup on any half decent router.

        • gfunk zero on 23/09/2020 - 20:47
          -1

          I know, but a normie router would have a weak chipset and struggle to manage QoS. ASUS owners who run Merlin firmware recon their QoS manager is one of the best.

          • stephendt on 23/09/2020 - 21:40

            @gfunk zero: I've found CAKE QOS on openwrt to be superior to Asus's QOS, but not a huge difference.

    • pegaxs on 23/09/2020 - 18:47

      I personally like the "gaming mouse pads"

    • Freestyle on 23/09/2020 - 22:40

      There are gaming chairs tho :D

  • pc6673 on 23/09/2020 - 12:46
    +2

    em..my mesh with two ac68u still going strong….

  • clothoo on 23/09/2020 - 12:54

    Does anyone know if this works with TPG HFC which requires vlan tagging 2?

    • Twix on 23/09/2020 - 14:17

      Yeah Asus routers do have VLAN 802.1q settings for ISPs that use it.

  • PoRKroLL on 23/09/2020 - 12:55
    +1

    Got one 1.5 months ago. Been running smoothly, no issues whatsoever.

    Merlin firmware most likely not coming but imo doesn't need it.

    At this price coming in with AU power plug & firmware this is a good upgrade if your coming from a N router or a cheap AC router.

  • WayneOZ on 23/09/2020 - 12:59
    +2

    Good price thx OP, but I'm done with any Asus router now lol.

    • clothoo on 23/09/2020 - 13:01

      Why not asus?

      • WayneOZ on 23/09/2020 - 13:06

        I replied here.

        • gfunk zero on 23/09/2020 - 14:38

          haven't found netgear to be great in the past either.. those 7200's used to need a reboot weekly or existing clients cant re-join wifi

          • WayneOZ on 23/09/2020 - 21:45
            +1

            @gfunk zero: Thanks for sharing. What you experienced was fine and absolutely normal. When it comes to any technology product, a rule of thumb is never judge a brand by its low end series. Simply because at this market segmentation, the cost is the priority to be considered when they develop a product, as the final release will be facing budget sensitive customers, thus a bunch of factors should be compromised. As a result, you can't ask too much or say you have to stand with some imperfections or glitches. But in high end market or the flagship model, performance (and a cool look) is the ultimate goal that both the manufacturer and the prospective buyer pursue. Price tag is still considered but doesn't take priority at all. With that been said, any issues with flagship model is a "real" thumbs down, while it is not at entry level products as your hands and feet are tied by cost. Assuming we're clear about that let's go back to the routers. When AC88U was released, it was the flagship model or at least one of the two flagship models (considering AC5300 just had some more bandwidth). So any issues should not be tolerated (otherwise ask yourself this question: why am I paying so much for it?) In your case, R7200 is definitely not the competitor to AC88U back then (meaning it's not the flagship), not even close. That's why we can vote Asus down by the bugs found on AC88U but can't just vote down NetGear by R7200. AC88U was released to compete with NetGear R8000, and R8000, my friend, has neither your issues on R7200, nor my issues on AC88U.

            And after all, an easy way to understand who is on par or to compete with whom, is simply comparing their RRP.

            • gfunk zero on 24/09/2020 - 10:18

              @WayneOZ: yep fair point.. have you considered a job in sales? unless you're already there :)

              I would use the ac86u over the 88, anyway next time I'm asked about a good router I'll research what netgear have on offer

              • WayneOZ on 24/09/2020 - 10:42
                +1

                @gfunk zero: Rest assured - ac86u is definitely better than 88u. I can guarantee you about that. Despite the misleading model naming 86u has fairly better chip than the old 88u. As the best to my knowledge, unlike 88u, ac86u has no hardware bugs by far. So if you're not craving for WiFi 6 then there's no need to update - even for this deal. Your ac86u could well handle even for the coming Gbps era and cater your family without issues.

  • deanosh on 23/09/2020 - 13:35

    any deals on an AC68U? need another for AI mesh

  • bobsmidie on 23/09/2020 - 13:47

    If anyone is thinking of using WiFi for gaming, don't. Unless you have no other option. Ethernet over power are great. Low latency and cheap. Just get that if you can't run hard wires. I really don't get why people spend heaps on a WiFi mobo and then heaps on a good WiFi router when you can do this for heaps less money.

    • viirgon on 23/09/2020 - 14:09
      +6

      Powerline ethernet is very dependent on your house electrical wiring - the performance is slower than my wireless (Asus RT86U) so I have given up on it for my house, after trying various brands. So can be hit and miss.

    • Diji1 on 23/09/2020 - 14:12
      +3

      Ethernet over power are great

      Not really, you should be using direct ethernet cable if you want no compromises on performance.

      • terrywang on 23/09/2020 - 16:56

        Latency, jitter (bandwidth is also not stable, depending on the wires), I'd avoid powerline at any cost for reliable wired network.

      • bobsmidie on 23/09/2020 - 17:55
        +4

        Literally said if you can't hard wire.

    • gfunk zero on 23/09/2020 - 14:41

      Tried EoP in three houses and only time it worked was 2 adapters 1 room apart, you are a rare case if it worked well for you.

      • bobsmidie on 23/09/2020 - 17:56

        Used it in 3 share houses now. Worked well. All old Queenslanders with very high gauge electrical cable, not sure if that makes a difference

    • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2020 - 15:16

      Wifi works well if both devices (router and end device) have good range and performance.

      • bobsmidie on 23/09/2020 - 17:58

        Spending 600 plus is good performance tho including decent WiFi card and router?
        Edit: for more than one pc.

        • [Deactivated] on 23/09/2020 - 23:31

          Not sure where you got the $600+ from?
          Most routers $250+ are decent enough (have a look at the newest AX range from D-Link) and pair it with an AX pci-e card ($50) you should have fairly decent performance.

          If range is an issue you may need to mesh it up, but you'd have trouble cabling if you have a giant house so cabling everything wouldn't necessarily be a better solution, and decent cables (cat 6/7/8) aren't exactly cheap either.

    • Freestyle on 23/09/2020 - 22:39

      Wifi isnt as bad as people make it out to be, just make sure your PC has an antenna and not one of those usb wifi sticks

    • 1st-Amendment on 24/09/2020 - 11:33

      Whether you send your zeros and ones over copper, fibre or over the air, the only thing that counts for gaming is latency, and the differences in all these mediums is negligible, certainly not enough to be noticeable by a human.

      • yoke2018 on 07/10/2020 - 19:49

        Sometime there’s a difference of 20ms and it can be noticed at times. But then again it’s not a double blind RCT experiment.

  • JustNotGod on 23/09/2020 - 14:36

    Will it be good router to replace router provided by Optus for NBN?

    • gfunk zero on 23/09/2020 - 14:46

      How many devices are using the router? if its more than 4 then get an ASUS AC68U they are good value.. if you have a busy household maybe its worth buying this or the AC86U which is a bit cheaper

      The routers that optus etc usually provide are a bit basic and struggle to manage many devices, not the best range either unless they have the external antennas

      • JustNotGod on 23/09/2020 - 14:56

        Almost has 22 devices are connected and sometimes one or other device gives problem on wifi. Also my nvidia shield tv become so frustrating when on wifi. So thinking to upgrade and I may add few more device in future. Will this help ?

    • Jayson Argon on 24/09/2020 - 10:07

      If you dont use the optus VOIP then yes

  • Harrison on 23/09/2020 - 14:55
    +1

    Anyone knows if this will come with an AU plug or just UK plug?

  • Charles89 on 23/09/2020 - 14:57
    +1

    Great router, works super well on 1000/40 NBN plans, manage to get 950mbps download using wifi6 from my computer on the second storey (router on first storey).

    • yoke2018 on 07/10/2020 - 19:53

      What plan do you use? 1000mbps wow

      • Charles89 on 10/10/2020 - 15:37
        +1

        Aussie Broadband NBN 1000/50 plan, $149 a month.

  • AceIsMe on 23/09/2020 - 15:13

    What's the WiFi coverage on these?

  • Beyond on 23/09/2020 - 15:15

    -AX82U-
    512mb RAM
    1.5 GHz Tri-Core Processor
    4x 1Gb Ethernet Ports
    1x 5Gb USB Port
    Total Speeds of 5400Mb/s
    RGB

    -AX86U-
    1024mb RAM
    1.8GHz Quad-Core Processor
    4x 1Gb Ethernet Ports
    1x 2.5Gb Ethernet Port
    2x 5Gb USB Ports
    Total Speeds of 5700Mb/s

  • w37hsyea on 23/09/2020 - 15:39
    +2

    wifi 6e routers start coming out in December - I personally would be waiting till then.

    • Sparky on 23/09/2020 - 19:05

      Addition of a new frequency (6GHz) sounds like a generation change in wifi technology. Will take a few years for 6e devices to appear though.

  • JustNotGod on 23/09/2020 - 16:29

    Will it be covered with Asus AU for warranty ? ?

  • antik on 23/09/2020 - 16:29
    +2

    Wifi AX is only good for same-room connectivity. All of the 3 that I have tested get significant slower speeds even with 3 bars, and you don’t need to be far away to drop down to 3 bars. At 3 bars I was speed-testing at 300-400Mbps, where I could get 650Mbps on Wifi AC at 3 bars. Wifi AC takes twice the distance compared compared to AX to drop to 3 bars. Same-room AC speeds are 800Mbps with a $10 Optus Sagemcom router. Can’t beat that for bang for buck

    • HappyBargainer on 23/09/2020 - 16:54
      +1

      You are 100% right. I am using Asus Rt AC5300 and was thinking to upgrade. My friend uses Asus AX11000 and told me not to upgrade as he experiences the same speed drop as you. I am wondering the reason. The router is wifi 6 and client devices are wifi 6 devices such as Note 10 plus but the speed is slower. Hope someone explains the reason.

      • antik on 23/09/2020 - 17:22

        AX speeds are faster at full signal strength, but AC speeds are faster at weaker signals. AX is 160Mhz and doesn’t throughput as well at weaker signals than 80Mhz AC

    • expatOz on 23/09/2020 - 18:15

      Don't you need WiFi 6 capable devices in the first place, and there are hardly any atm I believe. So until then just disable AX and use AC like I'm doing with my AX3000 which is a significant improvement over my AC68U. I get 105down even downstairs where I got about 60 average with AC68U

      • antik on 23/09/2020 - 18:45

        Why buy an AX router if you don’t have any AX devices? AC performance is generally much better on an AC router. I don’t know of any AX routers that do 3x3 AC

        • expatOz on 23/09/2020 - 19:05

          Why do you say that? I just enabled in AX mode and literally no diff in speed down stairs. Do you have any authoritative ref for your assumption?

          • antik on 23/09/2020 - 22:02

            @expatOz: You’re not going to notice a difference between AX and AC on a 100Mbps line. I’ve been testing on a gigabit line, and 3x3 AC does 800Mbps+

            • expatOz on 23/09/2020 - 22:49

              @antik: I did notice a difference though. AC was approx 60 down where AX was consistently higher around 100+

              • antik on 23/09/2020 - 23:05

                @expatOz: As I said before, AC is good for 800Mbps+, so you had issues elsewhere. I’d assume settings with your AC router

  • thsydney on 23/09/2020 - 17:27

    This or TpLink Deco X60?

  • Sparky on 23/09/2020 - 19:09

    I have a two storey house with approx 20 Wifi devices. Using 5GHz for 4-5 devices. Has anyone noticed improvements to traditional 2.4GHz wifi performance using Wifi 6 routers?

    • antik on 23/09/2020 - 22:04

      Negative. One would only use an AX router if you wanted close range gigabit speeds on Wifi

  • Niceboat on 23/09/2020 - 19:10

    Can anyone absolutely confirm this comes with AU plug? Only thing stopping me pulling the trigger on this.

    • JustNotGod on 23/09/2020 - 19:42

      as per comment above…it does!

      • KangaDrew on 23/09/2020 - 20:02

        Incorrect. Read again CarbonChaos' comment.

    • expatOz on 23/09/2020 - 19:43
      +1

      I think it should because my AX3000 purchased locally came with at least 5 other international plugs besides AU plug so I think they probably include them all with every new premium router.

    • KangaDrew on 23/09/2020 - 20:03

      No it doesn't. Read CarbonChaos' comment above.

  • Slopshua on 23/09/2020 - 20:02

    I've got an AX88U but doesn't quite reach then furthest room in my house with reliable wifi. Can anyone recommend what Asus product I could buy to mesh with my AX88U? Is there such a thing as a mesh switch as opposed to having to buy a second router?

    • Twix on 23/09/2020 - 21:51

      No to the mesh switch. Asus router mesh list

  • Budju on 23/09/2020 - 21:17
    +1

    AC68U till I die.

  • Freestyle on 23/09/2020 - 22:38

    whats a 'gaming' router lol

  • daveg1980 on 24/09/2020 - 07:56

    I think you can get this cheaper if you shop around, but I do quite fancy this router! I currently have an AC68U, but fancy meshing these together

  • tangcla on 02/10/2020 - 18:07

    Has anyone received notification of shipment yet?

    • rootk1t on 06/10/2020 - 18:53

      no :(
      not a surprise tho, since it's out of stock or "pre-order" pretty much everywhere you look

  • yoke2018 on 07/10/2020 - 19:45

    How’s WTFast? I recently tried killping.com but it’s shit. I think this feature qualifies a router as a “gaming router”? Lol I don’t know.

  • Niceboat on 07/10/2020 - 21:31
    +3

    update Mine arrived today. It does not come with an Australian cable for the mini-brick, so you'll have to grab an Australian cloverleaf-style power cable (I just click and collected one from JB for 10 bucks)
    .
    It does however come with Australian firmware, it had Aussie ISPs in the setup list and setup was painless even with TPG HFC.

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