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Seagate Expansion Desktop HDD: 14TB $346.10, 10TB $270.44 + Delivery (Free with Prime) @ Amazon UK via AU

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Seagate Expansion Desktop 14TB External Hard Drive HDD $346.10 - USB 3.0 for PC Laptop (STEB14000400)

Long time lurker, first time poster so please let me know if this post needs to improve.

Looks to be the lowest ever price for Seagate 14TB Expansion hard drive. Works out to less than 25c per GB which is about as cheap as you'll find with any storage. Shuckable and perfect for NAS. Reports are you will either find an Exos X16, Exos X14 or Iron Wolf Pro inside.

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Seagate 10TB HDD $270.44

Good price, and not far off the lowest listed on CamelCamelCamel. Shuckable if that's what you're after. Most people seem to find Barracuda Pros inside, but you may also find an Iron Wolf, Iron Wolf Pro or even an Exos. Good value per GB at 27c for a quality drive.

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  • I know nothing on 11/02/2021 - 10:00

    Looks like there is no free delivery even with Amazon Prime

    • gigmizzenmast on 11/02/2021 - 10:13
      +2

      Amazon Prime is free delivery for international orders over $49. I placed two separate orders and got free delivery on both.

      • I know nothing on 11/02/2021 - 10:29

        Thanks for confirming. Maybe I need to sign up for Prime before attempting to buy? I usually sign up for one month Prime while buying. This time it is saying this item is not eligible for free delivery with Prime

      • I know nothing on 11/02/2021 - 11:17
        +2

        Thanks. Signed up to Prime first and got free delivery for 2 drives. My name says it all

    • theguyrules on 11/02/2021 - 10:21

      There definitely is free delivery for Prime.

  • asausas on 11/02/2021 - 10:12

    Excellent first post OP. Definitely includes free shipping with Prime. My order just finalised ~1 min ago.

  • lycos on 11/02/2021 - 10:17

    The reviewers mainly complained it's too noisy.
    Does anyone know how noisy is it? Louder than the portable HDD?

    • gigmizzenmast on 11/02/2021 - 10:26
      +1

      No personal experience, sorry. I’d imagine it would be louder than a portable HDD as it spins at 7200rpm. How noisy I’m sure I will find out when it arrives…

    • OkayFray on 11/02/2021 - 12:47
      +1

      I have a 12TB that I've shucked, with an exos drive inside. Supposedly you can also get ironwolfs inside. It's noisy, no doubt about it. Is it as noisy as everyone online makes it out to be? Not really. It's especially noticeable when writing to the drive though.

    • gilmour on 12/02/2021 - 17:45
      +1

      I have the 12TB Seagate which has an Exos x16 and a 14TB WD external with a Helium filled HGST HC530 both unshucked.
      The Seagate is a lot louder than the WD drive. Its very loud when writing and even normal spinning speed. It also constantly chirps every few seconds. This is actually a feature of the Exos drives as it's constantly doing some sort of proactive surface scan.
      Basically if you get a Seagate that has an Exos drive I would not like to have sitting next to me all the time, it would annoy the crap out of you.

  • GoonSack69 on 11/02/2021 - 10:18

    10TB is $313.41 now

    • theguyrules on 11/02/2021 - 10:21

      Still seeing $270.44

      • GoonSack69 on 11/02/2021 - 10:25
        +1

        My bad, clicking the link took me to one sold by Amazon AU

  • daft009 on 11/02/2021 - 10:20
    +1

    thanks can backup my 4x4TB NAS onto a single drive now. about 12TB of data

    • sendcoupons on 11/02/2021 - 10:27
      +1

      “Best practice”

      • daft009 on 11/02/2021 - 11:24

        Yeah will have another drive for a second backup

  • [Deactivated] on 11/02/2021 - 10:32
    +1

    Not a bad deal but the recent 12TB deal at $274.53 on 26 January 2021 was better value. I ordered 2 and received both already - and they were Exos (model ST12000NM001G) drives inside.

  • DolaChan on 11/02/2021 - 10:41

    Has anyone ever had one of these 12-14tb shucked drives fail in less than 5 years?
    A bit worried to buy one of these to shuck as there is no warranty on the internal drives once shucked.

    I guess it's a gamble we take for getting these drives for half the price as buying it off the shelf?

    • MilkDrinker on 11/02/2021 - 11:09

      Can you reshuck the drives back in or does shucking destroy the shell?

      • [Deactivated] on 14/02/2021 - 19:49
        +1

        Generally expect to damage the Seagate enclosures beyond compare when shucking (small plastic tabs around the sides are weak). The WDs can be put back together if you're careful.

    • GoonSack69 on 11/02/2021 - 11:23

      Would highly recommend doing a full scan of the drive before shucking

      • KangaDrew on 11/02/2021 - 11:31

        Do you use particular software for scanning?

        • GoonSack69 on 11/02/2021 - 11:36
          +2

          I use HD Tune Pro to scan my drives

          • Black Hole on 18/02/2021 - 20:41

            @GoonSack69: Would take forever to do scan. 14.5 hr to do the complete scan.

        • cheach on 11/02/2021 - 13:28

          Best to run Surface Scan on Hard Disk Sentinel before you shuck.

    • gigmizzenmast on 11/02/2021 - 12:05

      Backblaze publish their drive failure rates and the Exos X16, for example, has an average failure rate of about 1%, so if you had 100 of these drives one of them is likely to fail in a year.

      Worth reading some of the Reddit threads about warranty on the shucked drive. It seems some of the enterprise drives inside (rather than the ‘Expansion’ itself) seem to be able to be registered for a full 5 year warranty. Seems to be a Seagate oversight. This may only work in the US, so individual experience may vary.

      • cfuse on 12/02/2021 - 09:40
        +1

        Statistics don't work like that. Bad luck isn't nearly so cleanly distributed.

        Furthermore, unless you are running storinators (the clown car of commodity disk arrays) in a data centre with blackblaze's duty cycle then it is likely YMMV.

        That being said, kudos for backblaze for having the balls to publish the data in the first place. Some real world data is better than some MTBF bullcrap from a drive vendor.

        • gigmizzenmast on 12/02/2021 - 11:03

          Yeah. Seagate say AFR of 0.34%. But that ~1% figure demonstrate that you would be fairly unlucky to have a drive die on you, especially in a home environment with non-24/7 use. Definitely interesting reading those stats from Backblaze.

      • gilmour on 12/02/2021 - 16:11

        Yeah read that on Reddit as well, seems they may have caught on to it and recent Exos x16 drives in the externals no longer have the warranty.
        Unfortunately mine didn't :(

    • jason andrade on 11/02/2021 - 16:25
      +1

      It is asking the wrong question.

      You should assume the drive will fail. Then work out:

      • How badly will that failure affect you
      • What the process is to deal with it

      Asking if it 'has failed in < 5 years' is trying to hope for the best rather than planning for the worst.

      I've noticed a bunch of posters deal with this by buying 2.. which is a good / simple start..

      • gigmizzenmast on 12/02/2021 - 11:07

        Definitely. Although I think they may have been asking the question less so because of impact of losing data and more because they have a drive without a manufacturers warranty and hence being left a few hundred dollars out of pocket.

  • morediscount on 11/02/2021 - 11:09
    -3

    What do people store on so much memory ?

    • turtleCatcher on 11/02/2021 - 11:13
      +3

      you need to have one to know one :)

    • Caped Baldy on 11/02/2021 - 11:17

      linux distros.

      Movies, tv shows, music, photos

    • KangaDrew on 11/02/2021 - 11:34
      +4

      Since I'm now on a 250/25 NBN plan via FTTP, I'm on a mission to re-download TV shows and movies in 1080p (or higher in some instances) for longevity. Watching older AVI files that were 540p (or even older 720p files that are more heavily compressed) just don't seem to cut it on TV's these days. I have nearly 20 years worth of TV shows and movies on my various external HD's so a couple of 14TB's will help me with my little project.

      • vrsac on 11/02/2021 - 11:44
        +4

        research Sonarr and Radarr to help you automate this massive task ;-)

        • KangaDrew on 11/02/2021 - 11:46

          Thanks for the tip!!

          And yes, it's definitely not a "little" project lol

          • Chenzo on 11/02/2021 - 13:01

            @KangaDrew: I'm doing the same.
            I use both sonarr and 2xradarr (1 for 4k and 1 for SD/HD)

            • dotMonkey on 11/02/2021 - 17:43

              @Chenzo: How do you run 2 instances on radarr? I would like that to have the same setup as you

              • Chenzo on 11/02/2021 - 17:47

                @dotMonkey: Hey buddy. For movies i run 2 docker containers in different locations. I split my media folders into 2, one for 4k and the other standard. Both instances then go to 2 separate librarys in plex.
                For TV shows, I just have the one sonarr and plex library.
                I run it all in unraid, what os you running?

                • dotMonkey on 11/02/2021 - 17:50
                  +1

                  @Chenzo: Ah I see, thanks for the reply. Would have to look into using docker.

                  I've just got my plex server running on my personal windows 10 pc

      • Slut on 11/02/2021 - 13:22

        I feel you!! Anything with a 4K UHD rip, it's in my collection. I have a 65" TV in my bedroom so I want the best (and they have better audio channels as well)

        10tb doesn't get you very far as well considering they're usually 50-100gb (sometimes more)

    • Aarent on 11/02/2021 - 12:17

      site rips…entire site rips.. essentially the offline internet :D

  • Slut on 11/02/2021 - 11:52

    Are these better than all the WD deals I see?

    • gigmizzenmast on 11/02/2021 - 11:58
      +2

      It depends on which WD drive you get. Some of them have WD Red ‘NAS’ drives inside them which are SMR which should be avoided unless you are just using the drive for archive (read, rather than write). All Seagate’s over 10TB are guaranteed to be non-SMR because they only produce CMR drives at this size.

  • iJebus on 11/02/2021 - 12:45

    I picked up the Seagate 10TB HDD on the last sale and shucked (ironwolf pro, st10000ne008); subjectively it's loud as hell but I haven't really got much to compare it to at moment so /shrug.

    • slimpickings on 11/02/2021 - 23:14

      Same deal and also got an ironwolf pro. It's loud by modern drive standards but I stopped noticing once the sides were on the case. It feels about as loud as most drives were in the mid 90s.

    • doctor strange on 12/02/2021 - 21:13

      I got a ironwolf pro nas as well. Lot of thud sounds though.

  • iJebus on 11/02/2021 - 13:07

    Side note, what's the difference with buying it via this link? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NPMMZ8C. Looks like it would be $212 but going via Seagate rather than Amazon as the seller, I think. Make the warranty more tedious maybe..?

    • skid on 11/02/2021 - 13:21
      +1

      That's in USD. After GST gets added on and converted, it comes out as AU$310.

      • iJebus on 11/02/2021 - 13:22

        Oof, got it.

    • KangaDrew on 11/02/2021 - 14:10

      I generally go WD as I have had no issues with them and they are quieter. I have one Seagate and it's loud AF.

      • Slut on 11/02/2021 - 14:38
        -1

        Considering I find WD ones loud (I need my silence when watching movies during quiet scenes!) I think I'll stay with WD, thank you!

        • KangaDrew on 11/02/2021 - 14:44
          +1

          That's fair enough. I don't leave the larger storage drives connected to a TV. They are nothing more than just that for me - storage drives (i.e. no Plex or server setup). If there are new movies or TV shows I am watching, they are run off a WD 4TB portable drive. Then once that starts to fill up, I pull out the big guns and do a mass transfer.

  • Sproner on 11/02/2021 - 13:57

    Would this work as an external drive to a PS4?

    • Richardc on 11/02/2021 - 15:16

      Yes but slow, better go for ssd.

  • robbie613 on 11/02/2021 - 14:59

    I bought two of these 10TB last year, both barracuda pros, perfect and pretty quiet. Shucked into a NAS.

  • jason andrade on 11/02/2021 - 16:27

    Thanks OP!

    I have been trying to pick one of these up for ages as our 8TB SMR drive is filling up.. and finally been able to push the button. Went for the 14T as the cost for the extra 2T seemed to be another $100..

    Was very tempted to order two.. but will see how we go with just one for now..

  • dotMonkey on 11/02/2021 - 17:44

    Would there be much difference between this and the WD equivalent?

  • pennyless on 11/02/2021 - 18:06
    +1

    And it's over

  • freemoneyhunter on 11/02/2021 - 18:40

    Do these have the over formatting overlapping tracks problem?

  • Alan Laz on 18/02/2021 - 12:41

    These were delivered today, I'm not sure if the Australia Post deliverer could have thrown them down on my porch any harder.

    They were in the Seagate retail box covered in one sheet of brown paper.

    Dented boxes: not sure if I should simply return them or demand that Amazon replace them.

  • monzablau16v on 18/02/2021 - 18:32

    mine arrived today, same as others have reported in a brown 'jiffy' bag (not impressed with that really). Confirmed drive is ST14000NM001G (EXOS X16). Will do some thorough testing and report back…

  • Icecold Inc on 18/02/2021 - 19:18
    +1

    Yep, just like the others mine arrived today in a brown paper bag with 0 protection outside retail packaging…

    Classic amazon. They make sure my shampoo orders are ultra safe and secure with bubble wrap and air packets but can't do the same for my $350 hard drive…

  • Black Hole on 18/02/2021 - 20:37

    Mine came today. EXOS X16 firmware SN02. I have just upgrade it to the latest SN03.

  • gigmizzenmast on 19/02/2021 - 10:37

    Same experience here. Brown postage satchel, although the product boxes arrived in damaged. Expos X16 inside. Very good value considering the retail price of the bare drive.

  • Alan Laz on 19/02/2021 - 10:44

    I followed the advice mentioned on this site before and ran hdtune to check the disk quality
    The first test took 20 hours but the disk is flawless

  • monzablau16v on 19/02/2021 - 13:34

    18 hours 44mins on HD Tune Pro. No errors. Happy days

  • Alan Laz on 21/02/2021 - 17:30

    Checked my second 14 TB and HDTUNE had an error message about heat / air flow with a recommendation to replace the faulty drive. Nice.

    Other than that it checked fine - so I shelled it anyway and installed in the synology and 24 hours later after synology did it's raid setup and sync magic now have find a huge data pool in fine condition according to synology's own checks.

  • Black Hole on 21/02/2021 - 20:34

    Mine is now in Synology NAS and going through disk verification. Look like ti will take 18hr or so to complete.

  • jason andrade on 22/02/2021 - 22:41

    My disk arrived and good so far.

    It's fairly noisy so keep that in mind.

    I was copying from an 8T disk (our main media drive) and was able to generate a fairly steady 110MByte/sec using rsync (most files are ~2-4Gbytes) which meant the whole dataset was copied over in < 1 day.

    It's been in use for about 48 hours and other than noise.. it's nice not to have a 95% full disk again..

    Interesting that our main house storage has gone from:

    2T -> 3T -> 4T -> 5T -> 8T -> 14T.. in about 8 years..

    Only one of those disks actually failed.. and its alternated between WD and Seagate. The 8T was a LaCie (but seagate disk inside I think).

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