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Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus from $61,425 Delivered + On Road Costs (Was $64,425 + On Road Costs) @ Tesla

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Tesla have once again done us all proud by slashing the price of the Model 3’s.

Standard Range Plus $59,900 (was $62,900)
Long Range $73,400 (was $77,900)
Performance $84,900 (was $93,900)

Prices above exclude on-road costs (varying per state)
and Tesla’s mandatory $1375 delivery fee + $150 ordering fee.

The Tesla Corporate Program will waive a further $1375 on delivery fees.

This is a record-breaking year for Model 3 deliveries and Australia still have more ships coming from Shanghai.

Drive-Away Prices with State Discounts on the SR+:

VIC: $61,968
NSW (starting 1 Sep): $59,473

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          • @edvoon:

            that will probably put in around 21kWh - or $4.20

            So if that's the wholesale cost, the provider needs to add a margin to cover installation, maintenance, profit etc, so likely to be somewhere up around $8 retail. And if you're basing that on 20c/kWh, what happens when it goes to 44c like it does here? You're now looking at $16 to charge your car that already cost you twice as much to buy. Why would I throw money away like this?

          • +1

            @edvoon:

            Some 2nd-hand Nissan LEAFs are now well below $20k.

            For an 8 year old car with a range of <100km and a battery pack about to die. Great deal!

            the Govt. is giving $2Billion free cash to their mates running the oil refineries?

            Because the gov aren't doing that. It is a common trope used by green morons who don't understand how tax incentives work.

          • @edvoon: opens the opportunity for retailers to offer charges at shopping centers if people spend certain amounts …… current the realm of coles or woolies and petrol stations, could have that for smaller retailers at shopping centers.

        • +3

          Well right now we are all paying for the environmental cost and health cost (air pollution related death rate) of people driving fossil fuel powered vehicles. Noone seems to worry about these externalised costs which are far greater than a few free charging sessions.

          The bigger picture is for the federal government to show leadership (like the other G7 countries) and provide incentives to buy EV's, help build charging infrastructure and set a target for the ban of sale of fossil fuel powered vehicles.

    • +22

      It's definitely early adopter phase. Battery tech and charging infrastructure will lag behind for years and while far better on overall emissions (including from manufacture) reusing old cars is better for the environment. Say it with me now reduce, reuse, repurpose, recycle in that order.

      • +5

        I’m holding out to retrofit internal combustion engines into EV. There was a period when LPG conversions were popular.

        • +1

          The trouble with that is where do you put the battery 🔋 to get acceptable range.

          The Chinese brands will smash that thought of conversion IMO.

        • +3

          You end up with the first generation Mercedes EQC. The frunk of that is tiny, even though its empty because they literally swapped out the existing GLC engine and retrofitted. It should be designed from the ground up as an EV, because of different handling characteristics and the like.

        • There is a UK company doing this and apparently business is booming. I also heard someone on the radio who did it to his car and it cost $25,000.

        • I enjoyed this comment, shame no one else could read it

      • +6

        Agree - reusing old cars and extending its life is better for the environment

        • +6

          Sometimes, couriers using 500k 1990 hiaces which spit out black smoke, it would be better to replace it.

      • If you drive a normal amount the "payoff" period from an emissions perspective is actually quite short - as low as a couple of years from memory.

      • There’s a growing industry in the US, putting 2nd hand Tesla drivetrains into old muscle cars. Apparently there have been a lot of Tesla S totals, so there’s plenty of spares.

        You get the great looks of the old muscle cars, but with better performance and lower runnings costs, but I think the conversions are north of $200-300k in US dollars.

        • There is a company in Melbourne doing that with RangeRovers or LandRovers or something like that.

      • +2

        I’ll buy only when Tesla price is competitive with other internal combustion engine cars. There is no reason for anyone to invest on car which is touted to be environmentally friendly with double price. Where rich is getting richer and planning to go to Mars and shit with tax cuts. Rich people are screwing environment most.

        • +5

          What do you feel the Model 3 is lacking in comparison to other $60k cars?

          • +1

            @AlanHB: Ride height, loose terrain capability, effective unlimited range with easy and convenient fuel stops, ability to tow or carry around big loads…

            I get that EV's are good for some people, but let's not pretend they solve all problems.

            • +4

              @1st-Amendment: Its not an SUV, it competes with the C class and 3 series. It is more than competitive with both.

            • @1st-Amendment: So your criticism is that it's an EV sedan? It seems that those criticisms would be addressed by getting an EV SUV, and for EV infrastructure to be better developed in Australia.

              • @AlanHB:

                Its not an SUV, it competes with the C class and 3 series. It is more than competitive with both.

                Yet the most popular market segment is SUVs…

            • @1st-Amendment: Sounds like you actually should be looking at the Model X, which has better road clearance, decent loose terrain capability, seats 8 and tows very nicely.

              The range may be an issue for some, but let's face it….most SUVs rarely leave sealed roads or venture far from the suburbs.

              People who genuinely need >500km range will be the last to switch to EVs. But they're a very small percentage of the population; less than 5% of people in Australia.

              • +2

                @klaw81:

                Sounds like you actually should be looking at the Model X

                Because $170k is perfectly reasonable for the average person to spend on a car…

                • @1st-Amendment: Yep, the Model X is really expensive. But that's the vehicle that is actually designed to do the stuff you want.

                  Criticising the Model 3 for not being able to tow or carry heavy loads is pretty unreasonable - no car in that class can do that, EV or not.

                  • +1

                    @klaw81:

                    Criticising the Model 3 for not being able to tow or carry heavy loads is pretty unreasonable - no car in that class can do that, EV or not.

                    The question was "What do you feel the Model 3 is lacking in comparison to other $60k cars?"

                    I gave a list of things lacking, and your response was to suggest a car that costs 3 times as much. The sad reality for EV evangelists are that EV's cost somewhere between 2/3rds to twice as much as their ICE equivalent and therefore are not a suitable replacement for most people.
                    I can buy a $60K AWD that does all these things, let me know when an EV comes close to that offering.

        • Sorry to be the one to tell you, but you are a "rich" person in terms of the overall human race. You produce many times the pollution of a subsistence farmer in SE Asia or Africa. If all people were creating the mess you make through your lifestyle then the earth would be stuffed pretty quickly.

          • +1

            @paulinspace: I know I am rich relatively and polluting more as well. But what about people living in million square feet houses and planning to go to space. And corporations with planned obsolesce designed products to fail and people can't even repair. And who can tell with 100% surely that EV's are better for the environment. What about batteries they use?

            • @peeltheonion: No cars at all would be best for the environment, but nobody is actually going to accept that. We all want cars, so we might as well make cars that as as environmentally friendly as possible.

              EVs are better for the environment in a couple ways:
              a) Even if you power them entirely from coal-fired power stations, they make less pollution than a petrol or diesel engine over their lifetime. As our power grid relies more on renewables, this will get even better.
              b) EVs use a little more energy than ICE vehicles to produce, mostly because of the battery. But they are far more efficient with energy while in service, so overall they're better.
              c) EVs are actually less complex than ICE vehicles, and require less servicing. They don't have so many replaceable consumables, like oil changes, oil filters, air filters, fuel filters and such. Obviously they still need tyre replacements, and (very infrequently) brake pad changes.
              d) Batteries that reach end of service life in cars can still be re-purposed for use in other applications, such as domestic home storage. And a fair bit of batteries can now be recycled to reduce the extraction of raw materials by mining.

              For now, buying a second hand ICE car rather than a new one is still probably the best environmental choice. But all vehicles reach end of service life eventually.

              By the way, I don't know of any mega-wealthy who are genuinely planning to leave the planet. Feel free to name some, if you can.

              • +1

                @klaw81: a) Even if you power them entirely from coal-fired power stations, they make less pollution than a petrol or diesel engine over their lifetime. As our power grid relies more on renewables, this will get even better. What is the source. I mean are there any studies or calculations?
                By the way, I don't know of any mega-wealthy who are genuinely planning to leave the planet. Feel free to name some, if you can
                Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Richard Branson at the moment. Who can afford will follow them soon. What is the point of their space trips. Just wasting resources without paying a single dollar tax.

                • @peeltheonion: Yes, there are plenty of studies. Here's a good place to start: https://www.virta.global/blog/electric-cars-pollution-facts

                  Elon Musk currently has no plans to go to space at this stage. SpaceX obviously launches rockets all the time, and they have a stated aim of enabling colonisation of Mars. But Musk has not said he wants to go himself. Also, he lives in a tiny house in Texas at the moment, not a mansion….but I understand he does own a couple rather large houses elsewhere for his family.

                  Branson went to space this morning, and Bezos is going in a couple days. But they'll only be in space for a couple minutes, and they have plans (or even the capability) of leaving Earth's gravity. This is a fledgeling space tourism industry, and none of those who go up are able to stay up. They're coming back down within minutes, and at the very height of their flight they're still closer to the ground than they are to the International Space Station.

                  It's worth pointing out that Bezo's New Shepard rocket is extremely environmentally friendly, running on hydrogen and oxygen. Its only waste product during the 4 minutes of run-time is water vapour so it's environmentally benign. Branson's rocket, sadly, burns some pretty nasty stuff. But in the scheme of things, it's roughly equivalent to a long-haul airline flight and there are hundreds of them every day…one more every few weeks is hardly a big concern.

                  If this is a waste of resources, then so is any other tourism operation, or any other transport company that just delivers people or goods to where they need to be.

      • For you, it will be early adopter phase forever.

        This is a arguably 4/5th gen car from Tesla (Roadster, S, X, 3, facelift 3 with LFP). I'm used to a Model S, but recently took a MIC Model 3 SR+ for a roadtrip, and was astounded at not only the range of the car (considering how cheap it was), but also the charging speed (even on 50kw charge the region DC chargers). Basically, the cheapest of these cars has no problem driving anywhere in Victoria. The chargers are plentiful (as you can use Evie, Superchargers, Chargefox or any slow AC charger), and the charging is surprisingly fast, because the SR+ has a small battery and is very efficient, and it can charge fast. I could get around 400km range from one of these travelling at 100kmh, and when I went to top it off on the dreaded slow 50kw fast charger, it went from 60 something % to 90% in the time it took me to grab a coffee. If you charge these cars off solar at home, its much better for the environment including manufacture. I doubt an old car would even pass basic emissions tests.

      • +1

        This whole "use old cars instead of EVs is better for the environment" is just a flawed argument against EVs. Car manufacturers are pumping out cars EVs or not every year. So if someone is going to buy a new car, which is better for the environment, a new petrol car or a new EV? Keeping in mind that EV's haven't had a 100+ years or R&D poured into them to make their technology efficient as it can be.

        FYI - I don't care about either type of cars one way or the other and I am a "second hand" car guy myself, but the constant trashing of EVs is overkill. No one was trashing the resurgence of diesel sedans/hatches 20 years ago when we all had plenty of efficient unleaded cars to drive around second hand. It was touting efficiency, performance, and being environmentally friendly over the mainstream and it was also often at a premium price point in this country. I think people just hate Telsla cars because of its founder. If it was run by a faceless mob of car industry managers people would be less divided probably.

      • Actually no, if you can charge your car with solar (ie. offset your use). Then, the EV only has to recover its carbon cost of manufacture, which it will do within 3yrs compared to a fossil powered car (based on average driving/yr). The crossover happens inside 3yrs, so because of the ongoing polluting nature of fossil vehicles, it is not environmetally better to just hang on to them.

    • +6

      I have an ioniq electric.~300km range. I only charge it at work. ~ once a week usually fine. Haven't had any issues doing that so far.
      When I've had to stop at a fast charger for longer trips it's usually cause I also need lunch/toilet. 15-20 mins charge gives me an extra 100km range.
      Ioniq has been good. But Teslas are far far better in every way. I don't think you would have any charging headaches if you live in the city. As you're usually not doing much more than 50km/day. A once a week charge session will be all you need.

      • +2

        Slow driver?

        100Km for each food stop, have you factored in the extra weight you gain if you travelled to another capital city?

        BTW do you have a bigger meal if the charging stations are already full with other Teslas when you first arrive? You know the more sold the greater the demand at the stations. 😀

        • +1

          The greater the demand, the greater the supply will be.

    • +7

      I wonder how many Ozbargainers would buy a new car, never mind a $60k one. A smart Ozbargainer would buy a slightly used one to save the 10% drop in value as soon as you drive it out the dealership.

      • +3

        I used to think that, but there's all sorts of different situations out there.

        On the one hand:

        I know someone who's got a real knack for picking up good used cars, and isn't concerned about buying unseen from a regional area. He's got a background where he's good with people, and he reckons he can tell what sort of a person he's dealing with, and what sort of a deal he's getting within the first 3 minutes of talking to them.

        Another chap I know has got a nose for pickles auctions, and often pickups bargains.

        On the other hand:

        There are a whole lot of tradies who have done quite well over COVID, and are happy to claim their $150k instant asset write off on a brand new fully optioned up ute. One guy mentioned that he sat down for lunch with a group of tradies who were all talking about the brand new utes they'd just bought.

        Quite a few people are able to legitimately claim business use and so get GST back, and can claim depreciation at 25% per year. Plus claim running costs.

        It's interesting to hear about what people are doing.

        • +1

          and are happy to claim their $150k instant asset write off on a brand new fully optioned up ute

          I didn't think the $150k applied to vehicles? I bought one last year and my accountant told me that the $57k limit still applies unless you are a primary producer/farm or something…

          • @1st-Amendment: correct. or the luxury vehicle tax of up ot $77k'ish

          • @1st-Amendment: The car limit doesn't apply to commercial vehicles, ie vehicles with payloads greater than one tonne or which can carry 9 or more passengers.

        • +3

          Yes isn’t Australia great. In the Netherlands there are tax deductions for public transport but here the bigger the gas guzzling polluter the bigger the tax deduction.

          • +1

            @Geoff-bargain:

            Yes isn’t Australia great. In the Netherlands there are tax deductions for public transport but here the bigger the gas guzzling polluter the bigger the tax deduction.

            Australian gov pays billions for public transport too, how do you think trains and buses work?
            The obvious difference is that Australia is much, much larger than the Netherlands, so riding bikes and catching trams isn't practical outside of a few high density inner city suburbs.
            If you don't like fossil fuels, don't use them. You have that choice. Seems odd that all the people who complain about them, still happily consume them when convenient. It's like a vegan who is lecturing you while eating a beef and bacon burger, pretty hard to take seriously…

      • Find me one 2021 Tesla second hand that is 10% cheaper than the new price. I haven't looked, but I doubt there are many 2021 Teslas being sold second hand. Owners tend to hold onto them.

    • They're for anyone, but they're easiest to charge if you have anywhere that the car is parked for 3-4 hours a day. Garage, carport, driveway, workplace/uni, commuter car park, train station (obviously with the last 3 you are reliant on the workplace, car park, etc. having charging stations).

    • -2

      Charge at work. That’s if you aren’t too spineless to ask your boss

    • +2

      IT'S a NO from me. That new car smell is like MUSK.

    • +1

      Wireless charging will be available once more people are having the electric cars.

      • However, just like Hydrogen, not the most efficient use of energy.

    • Nah. Just use those Eneloops!

    • COIL

    • It has sentry mode, so whoever takes the cable gets recorded!

  • +1

    I went by the Tesla dealership near me and had a look at them yesterday. White looks the best option IRL, I found the other colours look a bit muted. Interestingly no one ordered the different wheels or white interior.

    • +1

      Red and blue with white interior look best to me. Pretty generic looking cars though overall. Still too pricey, if it was the performance AWD for 60k then yeah maybe.

      • +2

        Clean they all look alright, but they are quite dull muted colours (my neighbour has the blue) compared to what they could be doing. Still too expensive and too much fluffing about for me but hey those earning mega bucks can take one for the team to make more mainstream.

      • agreed… I would rather pay $60k for a diesel AWD… I won't think twice to go offroad… and better fuel consumption…

    • +5

      Isn't Sydney in lockdown?

    • I like red

  • +34

    Nice, grabbed 5.

    • +22

      Don't forget cashback

    • +1

      Went to my local dealer and they told me they had all been Brodened already, save some for the rest of us a-hole!

    • 5? Amateur!

    • +13

      Pricematched at Officeworks. Thanks.

    • -1

      Cool, Ordered one for each of the week to cover weekends.

  • +16

    NSW (starting 1 Sep): $59,473

    Let’s wait!

  • +25

    Slowly getting there.

    • BYD are about to release sub A$35K EVs here

      • +1

        Interesting when delivery will be though.

  • +1

    General question but at what price range do you all think would result in a significant increase in Telsa 3s on the road?

    It would be interesting to also see when there'll be a increased uptake in electric charging stations and how we can mitigate increasing electricity costs.

    (Saying Telsa 3 as that's probably the most mainstream and likely to take off).

    • +29

      You likely wont see a lot of electric vehicles until they hit around $35-40K.

      • Yeah I was thinking along the lines that in today's economy (particularly looking at house prices), the younger generation whom are a couple of years working full time would buy at that $30-40k range and not see it as a major hit to their home loan deposit.
        Concept being to get a decent enough [second] car upgrade from the proverbial s***box first car haha

        Can't see it being very attractive to this demographic at $50k+ and I'm assuming young families/couples would be budget conscious.

        Those in the mid/later stages of their careers would seek the model S or higher prestige cars or practical options

      • +1

        It depends on the vehicle type too… an electric dual cab ute at $65k would fly out of the lots

    • +8

      I'd say $50k would get a lot of people interested. Heck I know I would jump at that price

      • Hyundai will be releasing the Ioniq 5 in Australia soon, I believe it'll be around that price point.

        • +12

          You're kidding yourself if you think the Ioniq 5 will be anywhere close to $50K

          • @Megahowler: Wasn't that their pitch, to bring an affordable EV to the market?

            • @eggaz: Affordable compared to other EVs does not mean affordable full stop.
              It'll still be a significant price premium over similar ICE vehicles.

              • +1

                @henno: Yeah thats fair, uptake is always going to be low on EVs (which is sad) if they don't break into affordable new car territory <$50k.

          • @Megahowler: Agreed… It'll probably be the best EV on the market… Mostly likely 60k plus…

            The YouTube reviews are impressive

        • +3

          "Pricing for the entry-level, rear-wheel drive Ioniq 5 58kWh model kicks off from NZ$79,990 (AU$74,200) before on-road costs. That's identical to a base Kona Electric 64kWh small SUV, the rough Australian equivalent to which is priced from $62,000 before on-road costs – and there's nothing to suggest the Ioniq 5 wouldn't be positioned similarly up here."

          https://www.caradvice.com.au/961351/2022-hyundai-ioniq-5-pri...

          • @staden: Oh wow that's a lot more than what I thought they would enter the market.

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