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Sign up to eBay Plus Annual Membership ($49) & Receive an $80 eBay Voucher @ eBay

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Sign up to eBay Plus Annual Membership ($49) & Receive an $80 eBay Voucher @ eBay
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Check your email, ebay account or eBay Desktop Homepage Scrolling Banners for this offer

Get a $80 voucher (valid until 31 Dec 2022) when you activate this offer & sign up to eBay Plus with an annual membership (costs $49).

Select T&Cs

Acceptance. By accepting the offer in accordance with clause 3, you agree to be bound by these terms and conditions.

Offer Period. The offer will only be available from 10:00 (AEST) on 14 October 2022 and is available for a limited time only, for as long as the offer is advertised on the
eBay.com.au site (“Offer Period”). eBay reserves the right to cancel the offer at any time.

Eligibility. This offer is only available to the select users who receive an email communication that contains the offer (“Eligible Users” or "you"). To successfully sign up to the offer, Eligible Users must:
accept the offer by clicking on the 'Accept offer' button shown in the email communication OR onsite marketing homepage banner on eBay.com.au; and
sign up to an annual paid membership for eBay Plus valued at $49 per annum.

Conditions. This offer entitles Eligible Users to an eBay voucher valued at $80 (“Voucher”) when they successfully sign up to the offer as set out in clause 3, before the end of the Offer Period. A limit of 1 Voucher per person applies.

eBay Plus. eBay Plus Terms and Conditions will apply when you accept the offer and sign up for an eBay Plus membership.

Use of the Voucher

Voucher issue. If you satisfy the Conditions set out in clause 4 above, the Voucher will be issued to Your eBay.com.au account within 10 days of successful payment of your annual eBay Plus membership, starting from 21 November 2022. For the avoidance of doubt, if you signed up to an eBay Plus 30 day free trial, you will not receive the Voucher until your eBay Plus membership renews to an annual paid membership.

The Voucher is not transferable.

Voucher expiry. The Voucher is valid from the date of issue until 23:59 (AEDT) 31 December 2022 (“Validity Period”).

Voucher Conditions. The Voucher entitles you to $80 off the pre-coupon purchase price (excluding postage costs) of item(s) listed on eBay.com.au, except on the Excluded Items, with up to 10 items per transaction during the Validity Period.

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  • doweyy on 14/10/2022 - 10:08
    +168

    Got it thanks, this should be the direct signup link to test if you're eligible :)

    • CodeXD on 14/10/2022 - 10:11
      +31

      Unfortunately, this promotional offer is by invitation only.

      aw damn

      • javawoo on 14/10/2022 - 12:59
        +21

        Why so many likes? Everyone invited but me?

        • CodeXD on 14/10/2022 - 13:01
          +10

          Everyone invited but me?

          You literally replied to my comment about me not being invited…

          • nismo on 14/10/2022 - 14:27

            @CodeXD: He/She's pre-empting you getting upvoted into oblivion?

      • kyttiekat on 14/10/2022 - 15:24

        Same! Bummer. I wonder what it's based on?

        • kiriakoz on 14/10/2022 - 16:54
          +3

          Generally, it's about how much you play "hard to get" with businesses. They get a boner for you if you do that.

        • Murkymerv on 15/10/2022 - 08:44
          -1

          Not you apparently.

    • MattyAu on 14/10/2022 - 10:13

      Thanks, had the offer there waiting.

    • nicholasv on 14/10/2022 - 10:16
      +6

      King stuff. I got it on one of my accounts. Set a reminder to buy it on 19 November just in case there is an upsized ShopBack bonus to double dip

      • CacheHunter on 14/10/2022 - 10:31

        I thought shopback had said ebay has stopped double dipping? Or am I mistaken?

        • nicholasv on 14/10/2022 - 10:31

          Maybe, not sure. Worth a punt though. It worked for me when I signed up 8 months ago or so. So maybe they fixed it since then?

      • Freeza on 14/10/2022 - 11:49

        The offer indeed says End date 20/11/2022.
        But also mentions offer period is available for a limited time only, for as long as the offer is advertised on the eBay.com.au site (“Offer Period”). eBay reserves the right to cancel the offer at any time.

        Does that mean we need to pay $49 today itself or there is no risk in waiting a few more days?

        • nicholasv on 14/10/2022 - 11:56

          99% off promotions ever made have the clause that they can terminate the promo early. Should be fine to pay the $49 the day before the end date

    • RTY on 14/10/2022 - 10:21
      +2

      It shows "You've accepted the offer "Get a $80 voucher with eBay Plus" directly after I clicked on the link. However it also says new members only. I used my trial and signed up for one month last year. Not sure if that will make me ineligible in the end.

      • Paul B on 14/10/2022 - 11:08
        +1

        I read that as
        complete your 30 day free trial*
        is required for new members only.

        p.s
        The button label is Start Selling, I assume they forgot to update.

      • StorminNorman on 14/10/2022 - 12:06
        +1

        I got the 'Youve accepted the offer' page when clicking the link.

        Talking to the help they said to me:

        "I am not able to find the promotion in your account, May I know where did you find the promotion in your account?"

        —So beware.

        • SomeGuyOnOzB on 14/10/2022 - 12:08
          +1

          I found it on the home page banner (but not elsewhere)

          Screenshot the banner
          Screenshot the offer page that it takes me to

          • StorminNorman on 14/10/2022 - 12:11

            @SomeGuyOnOzB: Yeah- it appeared as a banner on my main page now (I looked earlier and it wasn't- it is now)

            Thanks.

    • montorola on 14/10/2022 - 10:23
      +3

      So I got the offer when I clicked your link…

      But the question is, do we HAVE to do the free trial first and then pay for the yearly membership to be eligible for the 80$ voucher?

      I've already had ebay plus before so it's asking me to pay for the membership fee immediately. Not sure if it'll still trigger the voucher…

    • kelvinsmj on 14/10/2022 - 11:02
      +1

      i didn't receive the email, but clicking the link above, it says "You've accepted the offer".
      but the T&C says

      This offer is only available to the select users who receive an email communication that contains the offer (“Eligible Users” or "you")

      • Quantico on 14/10/2022 - 11:05
        +2

        Yeah I mean I went thru the process and it all went smoothly. Said wait 10 days for it to go into my eBay account. Worked for me.

        I doubt they will care as long as they are having people sign up. Especially since some people get "you're not eligible for this offer" or similar

        I've never had eBay Plus before so likely helps.

        • Westpac on 14/10/2022 - 14:25

          Where did it say wait 10 days for it to go into account? i signed up and didnt get anything?

      • Paul B on 14/10/2022 - 11:17
        +2

        Check my.ebay messages
        The offer was there and valid, but I didn't find an email in my junk folder.

        • theSav on 14/10/2022 - 12:10

          This is the way!

          Twas the same for me too - Pro tip! Thanks Paul!

    • Quantico on 14/10/2022 - 11:04
      +2

      You're a legend for posting that link, cheers!

    • USER DC on 14/10/2022 - 11:10

      On one of the accounts I still see the $20 banner, But by clicking this link I was able to accept the $80 voucher.
      Now wondering if I would actually get the $80 voucher if I was to signup because Banner still says $20.

      and eBay CS is totally ridiculous and unreliable

      • illiterate on 18/10/2022 - 23:08

        did you? i accepted the $80 offer, and i have a $20 link too… wondering if this would stack

    • fantoo on 14/10/2022 - 11:17
      +1

      Checked on 7 of my emails. Didnt get on any of them :(

    • Jimbuscus on 14/10/2022 - 11:21
      +1

      Worked for me, this one is actually worth it.

    • Saltysez on 14/10/2022 - 12:11

      I used this link, was eligible and activated, then went and paid annual fee but no message about a voucher after signing up. Will have to wait and see if it comes.

    • ash2000 on 14/10/2022 - 12:34
      +10

      And for those who want to be doubly sure that the offer has been tied to their account before paying, go to this page: https://www.ebay.com.au/mys/overview

    • isthisreallife22 on 14/10/2022 - 18:57
      +2

      Worked for me, thanks. Can see it activated here https://www.ebay.com.au/mys/overview

    • Kas on 14/10/2022 - 22:29

      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/12803818/redir

      "Further to get the $80 you will need to sign up from the email you have received for the $80 voucher. Even we have sent a copy to your eBay messages for the sent offer."

      sounds like NO EMAIL -> NO $80 VOUCHER…. the link posted on this comment not actually confirm $80 voucher even it is green.. that link is more like error messed up some SALE link

    • teajay74 on 25/10/2022 - 17:12

      Thanks for that, I'm ineligible but saved so much stuffing around!

    • whyisave on 26/10/2022 - 00:44

      Thank you for your link, @doweyy.
      I was able to sign up, only because of this.

      And yes, I had resisted eBay Plus, all this years,
      but this $80 voucher tipped me over!

  • Himlord on 14/10/2022 - 10:10
    +5

    Received same is this worth ?

    added all T&C for Read

    Get a $80 voucher when you activate this offer & sign up to eBay Plus with an annual membership
    Acceptance. By accepting the offer in accordance with clause 3, you agree to be bound by these terms and conditions.
    Offer Period. The offer will only be available from 10:00 (AEST) on 14 October 2022 and is available for a limited time only, for as long as the offer is advertised on the eBay.com.au site (“Offer Period”). eBay reserves the right to cancel the offer at any time.
    Eligibility. This offer is only available to the select users who receive an email communication that contains the offer (“Eligible Users” or "you"). To successfully sign up to the offer, Eligible Users must:
    accept the offer by clicking on the 'Accept offer' button shown in the email communication OR onsite marketing homepage banner on eBay.com.au; and
    sign up to an annual paid membership for eBay Plus valued at $49 per annum.
    Conditions. This offer entitles Eligible Users to an eBay voucher valued at $80 (“Voucher”) when they successfully sign up to the offer as set out in clause 3, before the end of the Offer Period. A limit of 1 Voucher per person applies.
    eBay Plus. eBay Plus Terms and Conditions will apply when you accept the offer and sign up for an eBay Plus membership.
    Use of the Voucher
    Voucher issue. If you satisfy the Conditions set out in clause 4 above, the Voucher will be issued to Your eBay.com.au account within 10 days of successful payment of your annual eBay Plus membership, starting from 21 November 2022. For the avoidance of doubt, if you signed up to an eBay Plus 30 day free trial, you will not receive the Voucher until your eBay Plus membership renews to an annual paid membership. The Voucher is not transferable.
    Voucher expiry. The Voucher is valid from the date of issue until 23:59 (AEDT) 31 December 2022 (“Validity Period”).
    Voucher Conditions. The Voucher entitles you to $80 off the pre-coupon purchase price (excluding postage costs) of item(s) listed on eBay.com.au, except on the Excluded Items, with up to 10 items per transaction during the Validity Period.
    “Excluded Items” means all items listed:
    in the following categories:
    88433=Other
    1305=Tickets
    183477=Vintage Luggage & Travel Accs
    11116=Coins
    123416=Other Tickets, Travel
    9800=Cars, Bikes, Boats
    3252=Travel
    3253=Flights
    10542=Real Estate
    316=Services
    184609=Gift Cards & Vouchers

    by the following sellers:
    lenovo_australia
    officeworks
    colessupermarkets
    myer_store_official
    bcf-boating-camping-fishing
    cottononclothing
    babybunting
    bosch_diy_tools_australia
    kathmandu_official_store
    miele_official
    weberbbqaustralia
    digidirectplus
    australiapoststore

    Redemption. To redeem the Voucher, enter the code displayed in your “My eBay” page, starting with PLHEVY, into the redemption code box during the checkout process. The code cannot be used in conjunction with any other eBay offer, coupon or voucher. You can only use the code once during the Validity Period. The code is provided to you as an eBay User and the limitations on its usage apply on that basis even though you may have registered a number of different eBay User IDs.
    General
    eBay rights. Without limiting other remedies and in addition to eBay’s rights under the User Agreement, eBay reserves the right to disallow or reverse a discount or prohibit access to this offer in circumstances where eBay believes:
    you have provided false information, conspired with others to gain an unfair advantage or have otherwise been involved in any way in manipulating, interfering or tampering with the conduct of this offer;
    a sale or purchase of any item as part of this offer has not been made in good faith, including where eBay considers that the buyer and seller may be related parties (such as family members or parties sharing the same dwelling); or
    buyers or sellers have engaged in collusive conduct or any other conduct which eBay considers unfair, fraudulent or untoward.
    Active. You must be an eBay.com.au registered member with an active account at the time of redemption (not suspended nor made inactive by eBay).
    Registered address. Your eBay.com.au account must have an Australian registered address to redeem this offer.
    Shipping. Items will only be shipped to addresses within Australia.
    Returns. If you return or seek a refund on any item purchased using the Voucher, the value of the Voucher will not be refunded to you.
    Cancellations. If you redeem the Voucher and the transaction is subsequently cancelled, the value of the Voucher will not be refunded to you and the transaction will still be considered a redemption under clause 10.
    No withdrawal. This offer cannot be withdrawn into your bank account and cannot be transferred.
    Stock. Sellers are responsible for their own stock and eBay does not guarantee the availability of stock. This offer is only available while stock lasts.
    Liability. To the extent permitted by law, eBay will not be responsible for any loss incurred by you in redeeming or attempting to redeem the offer or for any costs, damages, accident, delay, injury, loss, expense, or inconvenience that may arise in connection with the use of the offer.
    Changes. eBay reserves the right to vary the terms and conditions of the offer at its reasonable discretion by publishing revised terms on eBay.com.au.
    Monetary amounts. All monetary amounts specified in these terms and conditions are in Australian dollars (AUD).
    Jurisdiction. The parties submit to the non-exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of the state of New South Wales.

  • Jamesozbargain on 14/10/2022 - 10:12
    +1

    I need to buy new h7 headlights. How do I check if an item is eligable to use with the 80$ voucher?

    • dazweeja on 14/10/2022 - 10:19
      +1

      Exclusions are listed in @Himlord's post. If the product is listed in the Cars, Bikes, Boats category, you'll be out of luck. Occasionally, the same product can be found in different categories from different sellers though.

    • bamzero on 14/10/2022 - 11:04
      +3

      Don't forget if it's anything like the previous vouchers it's not an $80 gift card, it's a single use discount up to $80 so if you don't use it all at once you lose the rest.

      (Nevermind, just saw your product link is over $80 ;)

      • [Deactivated] on 15/10/2022 - 03:05

        Sign up to eBay Plus Annual Membership ($49) & Receive a $80 eBay Voucher

        Hm… I might finally have cause to sign up.

        it's a single use discount up to $80 so if you don't use it all at once you lose the rest.

        Nope.

    • kiriakoz on 14/10/2022 - 17:37
      +1

      Also, I was told by Customer Service that the voucher won't be available until November.

  • xdirex on 14/10/2022 - 10:14
    +1

    Hmm, just signed up with the $40 Cashrewards offer yesterday. Anything I can do about that?

    • justtoreply on 14/10/2022 - 10:15
      +3

      No

    • CodeXD on 14/10/2022 - 10:16
      +1

      Click the link anyway and see if you are eligible.

      • xdirex on 14/10/2022 - 10:17

        Yeah, I’m eligible and I’ve added it to my account.

        • CodeXD on 14/10/2022 - 10:18
          +15

          Oh, I was hoping you won't be eligible and that'll make you feel better.

          Nothing you can do now.

          • DingoBlue on 14/10/2022 - 12:12

            @CodeXD: Forgot to put your lottery ticket in? Check the numbers to feel better!

    • DoctorCalculon on 14/10/2022 - 10:31
      +1

      $40 Cashrewards offer

      Say what?
      Cashrewards has no affiliate agreement with eBay.

      • bamzero on 14/10/2022 - 11:33

        It's Shopback, currently $15

        • Turd on 14/10/2022 - 11:42

          Oh damm i forgot about SB

    • kekw on 14/10/2022 - 10:48
      +2

      sign up to another one to bring down the average.

  • hanofee on 14/10/2022 - 10:15
    +1

    Is it new customer only or will it work if we have 1 month running?

  • HolyFosh on 14/10/2022 - 10:16
    +3

    Nice! Eligible!

    Wasn't going to get it again unless I got a 50 voucher, but this is even better!

  • dazza826 on 14/10/2022 - 10:17

    Somehow eligable but signed up for Monthly so have to wait for that to cancel and then ill try go for the yearly sub.

  • JCRALLYART on 14/10/2022 - 10:17
    -4

    Just by looking at this offer. How sad ebay has been doing recently especially ebay plus

  • DonWilson on 14/10/2022 - 10:18
    +1

    There's a "new members only" clause and specific language about getting it when you pay, after your 30 day trial. So probably won't get the voucher if you've had an eBay Plus membership before.

    • ModBot on 14/10/2022 - 10:20

      Same thoughts. But given a few people are ineligible, it might be everyone that's eligible.

    • vcdeal on 14/10/2022 - 10:21
      +1

      I have got this voucher, and i was a ebay plus member before (but it's been over a year) so maybe thats what they are targeting

      • montorola on 14/10/2022 - 10:25

        But when you signed up did you get the trial again or did it ask you to sign up and pay members straight away?

        • Jono258 on 14/10/2022 - 10:45
          +1

          pay straightaway on mine

        • Jayd3n on 19/10/2022 - 18:36

          i got the same offer but has been an eBay plus member - just expired september 2022.

          I tried accepting the offer and this is what I got

          You have already tested eBay Plus for free. If you sign up now, the membership fee is due immediately.

          I'm unsure now if I should go and proceed and still get the 80$ voucher as I'm not a new member anymore.

    • b-radicool on 14/10/2022 - 10:22
      +13

      The wording is as follows:

      Congratulations, you’ve successfully accepted this offer. Sign up to an annual eBay Plus membership now, complete your 30 day free trial* and pay the membership fee. Limited time only. $49pa. *New members only.

      I read this to be that the 30 day free trial is only applicable to new members. Not the $80 deal.

    • dazweeja on 14/10/2022 - 10:23
      +3

      That's not how i read it. If you're a new member, you get the 30 day trial, otherwise your don't. That's why the asterisk is on the phase "30 day free trial" and not the whole offer.

  • Fergy1987 on 14/10/2022 - 10:21

    uggh this would have been good with the G Pro Wireless deal the other day - dammit

  • flud on 14/10/2022 - 10:21

    Voucher is sent after 21 Nov

    • Quantico on 14/10/2022 - 10:56

      Mine said it will appear in my eBay account in 10 days from now.

      • BarneyKB on 14/10/2022 - 11:00

        Hi, where does it say that? Thanks :)

        • Quantico on 14/10/2022 - 11:03
          +2

          So the process I used was:

          1. Click link that doweyy posted
          2. The offer said congratulations you accepted the offer
          3. Clicked to link to Goto purchase eBay plus
          4. Used PayPal as the payment method
          5. Put in PayPal username and password
          6. It came up with successful page, and on that page it said "you'll get your voucher in your account in the next 10 days"

          Wish I'd taken a screenshot, sorry.

          • BarneyKB on 14/10/2022 - 11:10

            @Quantico: Thanks for the reply. For some reason after step 2 there is no link to purchase for me, even though it says I accepted the offer (I already have bought a month of ebay plus a few weeks ago, so I was surprised it said I accepted it tbh)

            • Quantico on 14/10/2022 - 11:19

              @BarneyKB: Sorry I cut it short.

              On the congratulations page, Just click I think the first link that takes you to terms and conditions

              Then it has a link for eBay Plus where it says:

              Eligibility. This offer is only available to the select users who receive an email communication that contains the offer (“Eligible Users” or "you"). To successfully sign up to the offer, Eligible Users must:
              accept the offer by clicking on the 'Accept offer' button shown in the email communication OR onsite marketing homepage banner on eBay.com.au; and
              sign up to an annual paid membership for eBay Plus valued at $49 per annum.

              The part at the end "eBay Plus" is a link to purchase it.

              Click that and go thru the process.

              At the end I didn't get free 30 days , so I assume that's why I am getting mine in 10 days and not November 21 like others.

              • nismo on 16/10/2022 - 21:10

                @Quantico: The terms and conditions mention both 10 days and starting Nov 21, so it may be that nobody is getting the voucher before 21/11. This is what it says exactly:

                the Voucher will be issued to Your eBay.com.au account within 10 days of successful payment of your annual eBay Plus membership, starting from 21 November 2022

          • USER DC on 14/10/2022 - 12:35
            +4

            @Quantico: Just another reminder from last time, when paying with Paypal- You get charged an international transaction fee usually

            But when paying directly with CC, you do not

    • bamzero on 14/10/2022 - 11:06

      Yeah that's what it says in my email.

      Step 3
      Your $80 voucher will be emailed to you from 21 November.

      • huntabargain on 14/10/2022 - 11:12

        Did you receive email from Ebay stating you get $80 voucher from 21 Nov?
        I activated the offer and joined ebay+ paid $49 (as I already used free month trial) received 2 emails from ebay but nothing mentioned about voucher?

        • bamzero on 14/10/2022 - 11:13

          Yeh. Three green boxes in the email with Step 3 as above. I haven't signed up so not sure if it will say 10 days at that point

          • Quantico on 14/10/2022 - 11:20

            @bamzero: I got 10 days cos I didnt so the free 39 days offer I Think

  • warmfruit on 14/10/2022 - 10:22
    +4

    I feel like a chump accepting the $30 voucher to renew membership

    • wormarts on 14/10/2022 - 10:38

      Lol same

      Where’s the crystal ball when you need one?!

    • jwh on 14/10/2022 - 10:39

      Mate, I feel you.

      Only did it two days ago too.

  • yaaNaa on 14/10/2022 - 10:23
    -2

    *New members only. Sign up now

    I had plus previously, so i guess though i got the email no voucher coming by way.

    Beware of this nasty ebay habit

    • dazweeja on 14/10/2022 - 10:25

      That asterisk is on the phase "30 day free trial", not the whole offer.

    • RogueWolf on 14/10/2022 - 10:26
      +1

      if you got the email you will get the voucher, you're reading to much into it

      • DoctorCalculon on 14/10/2022 - 10:51

        If you didn't receive the direct invitation email, but clicking on this link shows your account is eligible, I assume you are still good to go?

        • RogueWolf on 14/10/2022 - 10:55
          +4

          yeah should be fine, after activating id sign up through this $20 link , worked last time got offer & extra voucher, double dip lol

          • SomeGuyOnOzB on 14/10/2022 - 11:57

            @RogueWolf: $20 link says the monthly $5 vouchers that they give have a min $50 spend.

            When I just click on eBay Plus at the top of the page, it says I will get monthly $5 vouchers with a min $15 spend.

            Dunno if both statements are correct or just one.

            • CodeXD on 14/10/2022 - 12:17
              +1

              @SomeGuyOnOzB: I've been getting the $5 off $15 spend monthly vouchers. Signed up in May.

              • hanofee on 14/10/2022 - 12:19
                +1

                @CodeXD: they're rather random. there are months that I got none, one of them or both at once. the one start with PLUS is the better one ($5 off $15), instead of the MYPLUS

          • ChipsChicky on 14/10/2022 - 14:53

            @RogueWolf: Shall i go for this double dip ?

            • RogueWolf on 14/10/2022 - 14:59

              @ChipsChicky: depends how much you value the extra $20, it's risk vs reward, worst case scenario only get the $20 so the membership costed you $29, best case $80 + $20, no idea why people are contacting eBay asking if they get both, obviously you're not suppose too, but works in the past

              • Trysaeder on 14/10/2022 - 16:56

                @RogueWolf: I followed these steps in the other post, except I clicked on the $20 link instead of step 3 and instead of getting the 'wait 10 days' lines, I just got the $20 voucher instead. I didn't get a free trial and paid the $50 immediately.

                Click link that doweyy posted
                The offer said congratulations you accepted the offer
                Clicked to link to Goto purchase eBay plus
                Used PayPal as the payment method
                Put in PayPal username and password
                It came up with successful page, and on that page it said "you'll get your voucher in your account in the next 10 days"

                Still seeing the "You've already accepted the offer "Get a $80 voucher with eBay Plus"", "Score an $80 voucher* with eBay Plus!", and "Selling promotions Available Get a $80 voucher with eBay Plus" banners on their respective pages.

                There's no indication that the $80 offer was successfully redeemed so might not be worth the risk of 'losing $60' vs 'gaining $20'.

                • DoctorCalculon on 14/10/2022 - 19:30

                  @Trysaeder:

                  Clicked to link to Goto purchase eBay plus

                  Which link did you click on exactly? The standard one from the eBay Plus homepage or the $20 offer?

                  There's no indication that the $80 offer was successfully redeemed

                  $80 vouchers aren't going to be sent until after 21st November.

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