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Australia’s new cheapest EV.
I’ve seen deals on new Teslas in the past. This little Chinese car is much cheaper!
Drive away price $39,991.57 in NSW
Est. Delivery Sep. / Oct. 2023
[Pre Order] BYD Dolphin EV $38,890 + On-Road Costs (Refundable Deposit $1,000) @ BYD
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Hendot on 22/06/2023 - 22:46 bydautomotive.com.au (29983 clicks)
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V2L for both BYD & MG.
It looks like only BYD Atto 3 has V2G capability. It can discharge up to 2.2kW
OzRRP
I'd highly suggest people watch this youtube video before buying one of these:
These may well be not "new" cars.
Yeah mate, video from 2021 and sightings all around the country yet no none has reported since. 10sec clip replayed over and over whilst some guy rants for 13mins on his own speculation with zero evidence. Did he not put one and one together to realise China had severe lockdowns that were only lifted in 2022? Did he not Notice they were all white car and some had company logos? Simplest explanation is orders were stranded as companies went bust enmasse.
Sounds just like Alibaba bullshit during early days when they said it's "advanced" warehouse were just primative low paid sorters. Shorts sellers got their arses spanked when the share price went from $50 to $150.
Wost design I've seen this year. Looks like BYD took inspo from a 2006 Daihatsu Charade. Tesla has nothing to worry about atm…
For 20 - 30k I'll put up with the ugliness, at 40k I'd want something nicer looking than this
Yeah I would do a ton of research of these fair warning from an ex BYD owner who upgraded to Tesla, wouldn't touch one again nothing but problems from not being able to charge and insane battery degradation.
keen to hear about battery degradation on the byd
When I first took delivery I was told 350+KM Range, which the car did show then after almost 2 months the screen was showing 295-300KM range, tech's came out and did health checks but advised it was normal and within optimal ranges. I said otherwise but after getting nowhere even with the updates they pushed to the car getting rid of it was the best thing I ever did.
Yet to experience either of those issues, and I don't recall seeing any other owners making such complaints.
Apart from my facebook rant this would be the first time I have publicly spoken about the issues because to be honest once I sold the car I didn't care anymore, only commented here because it showed up on my front page. Just posting my own personal experience but like all products in the world everyone has a difference experiences. Sure I was an early adopter which maybe they have fixed some of the issues now, won't change the fact I was burned and after almost 5 software updates and broken promises I gave up.
Hi Musk, you do that on Twitter. Try to be honest next time ;)
In 10 years these are going to be the new Excel or Mirage…
How when MG ZS exists
these cars wont last that long… i still see the odd excel on the road… thats like 20 years now.
They will head to the landfill if the replacement battery pack is not available anymore. People don't factor in battery pack that has to be replaced around 8 to 10 years time.
That is just not true unless you do 10x the average km per year. Batteries do not degrade like that, rather the number of charge cycles, and most will last for +10 years before they are completely spent. The new chemistries are amazing, the LFP batteries should last a million km +/- if they are not routinely abused (dropped below zero %).
These are batteries we are talking about, and nothing about batteries is certain and assured, no matter what someone says. I'm telling you this from my own personal experience dealing with warranty claims of batteries among other products in my workplace. These are Hi-Tech medical industry grade lithium batteries made in Switzerland. Some last 5-10 years, while some go dead in less than 1. There is just no certainty and also batteries have shelf-life and they degrade over time even if not used.
@dealhunter52: Exactly the same applies to engines.
Some will fail and be replaced during the warranty period, some will fail during the life of the car.
The vast majority will last for the life of the vehicle.
I'm not sure why you expect batteries to be any different - as long as the vast majority last for the life of the vehicle, then they're meeting expectations.
HAHA my RAV4 2004 still has 400km range. 450km on highway. Try that with any electric car that's 20 years old.
Considering toyota hybrids are easy to replace if you got the time or 2k-5k for over 10 year old car. Who knows what happens to BYD or MG batteries after 10 years. I guess after warranty support for these is consume the product, throw this car in the garbage and get a new one.
There is users in this thread defending their nationalist pride.
Batteries are biggest cost component in the EV car, nearly half the total cost of the car. I'm not sure if anyone can recover that cost in fuel savings over the life of the battery, considering electricity prices are have been rising exponentially recently. I just got my second price rise notice from AGL this year.
@Naigrabzo: Replace the battery ? Why on earth would you do that ? How often do you need to replace the engine in your petrol car ?
It can also cost 30K to replace the engine in a high end car - but this isn't generally something you'll ever do. Engines and batteries last the life of the vehicle.
@dealhunter52: Sorry, I'm not sure what your point is.
Yes batteries wear out, just like engines. As long as they generally last for the life of the vehicle, just like most engines do, then what's the problem ?
Yes batteries wear out, just like engine
Wrong, engines outlasts any battery built to date. For context, my 12 year old car has it's batteries replaced 3 times. Guess how many times have I replaced it's engine….Zero, Zilch, Nada
I know it's Lead acid battery vs Lithium ion. But I still haven't seen even a 5 year old phone with lithium battery that didn't had it's battery degraded significantly in that time. Here we're talking about a battery that is going to endure 40+ degree in summer and 0 degree in winter, so performance will definitely sufffer.
@dealhunter52: I'm sorry but if you think an advanced automotive battery complete with active temperature management and an extremely comprehensive charge management system is even remotely similar to a lead acid or mobile phone battery, then this conversation isn't going anywhere 😁
@Nom: If you think your phone lithium battery and car lithium battery have completely different chemistries then yes, I'm probably talking to a vegetable here.
For context billions of dollars on R&D have been spent in last 3 decades to squeeze most energy density and reliability in a small 10mm thin phone…Long before electric cars were mainstream. World's most valuable $3 trillion company happens to be primarily a phone company and to say they will use inferior technology in their phones is just childish.
….. and to say they will use inferior technology in their phones is just childish.
Where was that said?
Nice straw man but.
If you think your phone lithium battery and car lithium battery have completely different chemistries
I said nothing of the sort.
World's most valuable $3 trillion company happens to be primarily a phone company and to say they will use inferior technology in their phones
Phone batteries are dramatically inferior. One reason why is that vehicles use an active loop of coolant to control the battery temperature.
I'm probably talking to a vegetable here.
Nice attitude, this is the point I'll stop giving you my time. You clearly didn't come here to learn anything new, just to waste everyone's time. Bye
@Nom: Never. My RAV4 2004 has 310k on it now still on the original engine. It's 20 years old. Has range of 400km.
Will not need engine replacement.
Your electric will need a battery replacement before 310k and it will cost more than the common welath games and will at least take 12 days.
Never. My RAV4 2004 has 310k on it now still on the original engine.
Precisely.
You would equally expect an electric car at 310K to still be on the original battery. The battery is probably approaching end of life at this point, just like your engine.
Note that modern cars are designed to last for around 10 years - most new cars produced today won't make it to 20 years of age. The average age of our motoring fleet in Australia is about 10 years.
@Nom: No probs. I don't think your electric car will be at 400km range at 20 years nor have the original battery. Tesla or otherwise. Range will also be abysmal.
Who says the new cars are designed to last only 10 years? That's horrendous for the environment.
don't think your electric car will be at 400km range at 20 years
Neither do I. Most cars don't make it to 20 years old, and those that do are usually very well worn. This applies equally to battery and ice vehicles.
My engine is no where near end of life. It still has about 200k left easily.
Then your engine is an outlier, and irrelevant - it's farcical to claim that most average RAV4 engines will happily make it to half a million km.
There are Tesla batteries that have made similar distances with no issues, but nobody is claiming that's the normal expected life.@Nom: Not an outlier at all. ICE engines will last 20 years when maintained and will maintain their range unlike batteries. Your Tesla or BYd will need a battery replacement many times over in 20 years. It doesn't matter if you are planning to replace your Tesla/BYd every 7-10 years though. Just throw it and get a new one. That's the best for the environment I assume.
@Nom: There are no Tesla batteries that has made it to 300k. It will probably have a range of 80km before you need to stop for 30 minutes of charge. :) or 9 hours of charge at home.
@Nom: My engine is no where near end of life. It still has about 200k left easily. :) Try that with yout battery…..
Wow someone here is negging all the RRP or not really a bargain comments. Salty much 😜
Reminds me of the Tesla forums when someone doesn't say it's the best car ever it gets negged.
Not best car ever, just best EV. (and very hard to beat in their price range compared to any ICE vehicle)
yeah I agree. It's sad though because it looks so cheap on the interior etc.
Absolute junk specs for that price. Not a bargain just because its cheaper than a Tesla.
I agree in Australia the best option for EV is Tesla. They are the most established and have the biggest well maintained charging network in Australia
This, and local support, with BYD you are thrown to the "expertise" of the local Kmart Mycar :-)
Nothing bigger & better for the battery than home electricity network.
EV has better ROI than non PHEV Hybrid
What could be an entertaining thing providing your work offers notvated leases you can get dolphin or base mg4 for less than $150 p/w. depends on your wage etc but could be a inexpensive way.
who drive a bomb these days?
Ok before you buy a BYD, I would look up the "experience" of other customers in Australia. there reputation isn't good in Australia. Do your research and then ask yourself if you wanna take the risk. If you like BYD I would wait till they get there act together first.
Came in to see how ugly it was. Thought surely with decades of car making and decades of copying it can't be that bad.
I was wrong.
There are a couple of decent articles on the BYD Dolphin and MG4 from zecar today:
https://zecar.com/reviews/2023-byd-dolphin-price-and-specs
https://zecar.com/reviews/2023-mg-4-price-and-specsThere are videos online of these cars spontaneously catching fire due to poor build quality.
Google any brand of car and you can find a video of one "spontaneously catching fire". The fact remains the EVs are somewhere between 10-100x less likely to spontaneously catch fire than an ICE car.
Imagine super car buyers seeing ferrari and lambos on fire, plenty of those occurring. They must be poor build too LMaO
Refer YouTube links above
Should i dig out videos ferraris, lambos, porsches on fire? Wont be hard.
Could happen to any car or house or even a person. Spontaneous combustion happens man.
Sorry this isn’t a bargain. This is a $29,990 drive away car every day of the week.
So I negged this post citing that “This is not a deal”, and a moderator removed my neg citing an “inappropriate use of the negative button”.
Then what the (profanity) is the negative button for?
There’s something weird going on here.
Reason as "this is a reason" isn't helpful. Try stating why it isn't a deal.
Because it’s RRP?
Seems like a perfectly acceptable reason to me and doubt it'd get revoked if such was stated.
YOU DIDNT CITE ANYWHERE
How does the vic electric rebate work as they end this month while this car is due in October?
It thought VIC stopped that and now charges a premium to own evs in VIC.
Disappointed with the colour choices, charging speed, acceleration.
Go for a MG folks
Sick of seeing stuff like this on here. Not a bargain.
Can it swim like a dolphin?
And eat fish for energy needs?
it will with the upcoming software upgrade. can swim to auckland from sydney in a single charge
I tend to agree with the general sentiment here.
It's the cheapest electric car, but that doesn't make it a good deal.
I could buy a dirty big used diesel SUV with heaps of features and run it for years before breaking 40k.
Seems OzBargain is becoming more OzRRP and OzNewEpisode….
"general sentiment"? Selective reading much?
You mean the 310+ votes and what, 10% (30-40 odd people including you) negging it.
You do understand that the 'general sentiment' DISAGREES with you?
General sentiment in the comments is negative.
People clicking the front page and pressing a + button isn't very indicitive of anything.
So the people clicking the front page and just pressing a button are doing so because they are bored, and not because they are trying to indicate their support of this deal?
Oh OK… got it. I guess there's no arguing with that logic then ;).
Optional Extras.
Floor Mats.:( yes yes I know it's standard practise to + + for floor mats, doesn't mean I can't shake my fist at it.
Where are all you neggers when Reps post fake bargains?
what did you call me?!
It's easier to dogpile on a 'Top Deal' than pick through the 'New Deals' to clean out the junk.
Give us the BYD Han EV at a good price and we will have some buyers!
Just a normal looking small hatchback with modern tech, why do some people think it's ugly? Just want to have something to hate?
show us an uglier car for sale here in australia
ozbargain the site where as an associate of the brand you can advertise for free
So what's the discount?
The standard model 0-100km/h takes 12.3secs, go and make a cup of tea and come back..lol
BYD is only good in one place…… China. outside of that country good luck.
it's the top selling EV in NZ
that would be because they're more organized and established in NZ. Can't say the same for Australia. The biggest issue here is there customer service and getting things fixed. BYD is good when there is zero issues, but the minute you get an issue then thats where BYD in Australia becomes unstuck.
they are robbing the kiwis with the dolphin. the dealership network model does not work anymore, esp with ev
Drive away, tow truck back. Poorly made vehicle. It's also the RRP
Even though im personally not interested in this ev it is a good sign for the affordability of ev cars in future.
Mostly ev cars for the city and hopefully development of hybrids 4x4 or long range ev solutions for regional areas would be the way in the long term.
Price is a huge factor for a lot of people everywhere.
Has some physical buttons, and a driver display. Already beats Model 3 & Y.
Thanks, they make this info hard to find, maybe because they don't do it. That would be a game changer I believe when we start having more v2h options.