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nbn FTTP 250/100 $120/Month, 500/200 $150/Month, 1000/400 $230/Month for 12 Months @ Leaptel

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Leaptel has updated their pricing on nbn FTTP plans with faster upload speed.

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Go to Leaptel nbn and click on All plans.

250Mbps/100Mbps – $120 for 12 months, then $135.
500Mbps/200Mbps – $150 for 12 months, then $165.
1000Mbps/400Mbps – $230 for 12 months, then $245.

Note: these are offered as residential grade services. We're not offering any business SLAs or special service monitoring.

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    • +30

      Show me a provider with 400 upload for that price…
      You completely missed the point. LeapTel has the same peasant tarrifs you pointed out excepted the 1000/50 is now on promo for I think $89.
      So… who the hell is paying Superloop those insanely high prices? :-D

      • Just to clarify - superloop for me was absolute garbage - im with leaptel 1000/50 $100month no expiry date and i can tell you now the speed is no where near 1000mbps more like 600-800. i dont understand these companies, where do they come up with these figures..do they have aboard meeting saying lets promote 1000/50 and give them 600-800..LOL (that sounds better and charge them for it….) - i can imagine the boss saying that

        • +1

          I got the 1000/50 leaptel deal for $89 a month and I'm hitting about 950 download speeds. 500-600 through wifi.

          • @ttacx: hmmmm im on hfc ill do a hard restart again see what happens..

            • @Mario g: good luck buddy. I'd be pissed too. Maybe contact Leaptel and see if you can get a discount. Email them a couple screenshots and tell them its not good enough

              • +1

                @ttacx: ok its been fixed from there end.. ive now got 948/47 and paying $20 cheaper so total $89 with no exp date and this is on HFC.

                • @Mario g: Yew! Nice work. Great outcome :)

              • -1

                @ttacx: So , you've gone from a speed issue to a discount ?
                Thou gist !

        • I get 1000 now on More Telecom, used to get it on ABB too.

        • Mario….

          Sorry for the late reply, I just saw your message and decided to help you out with addressing your problem.

          The reason for not getting "full speed" is because of your technology.

          HFC is limited to around 750Mb with bursts up to 930Mb.

          If you have/upgrade to FTTP, you will get "full speed" as fibre technology doesn't have a limitation. (as others have posted on here near full speed results)

          I would recommend going with a decent RSP like Aussie broadband who have a decent backhaul.

          Right now their Gigabit Plan (1000Mb/50Mb is only $129/m

          And if you know someone who has ABB, (wink wink) they can help you transfer over and you get $50 off your connection. (for the first month)

          Kind regards,

          Luca.

          • @ITALIANGUYLUCA: Hi Luca,

            When i was with ABB i had no problems only reason i changed was pricing. If ABB were to charge me $89 for the 1000/50 i would move over no problems. The HFC connection that i have had no problems when i was with ABB so i dont see why there would be a problem switching to leaptel unless there was a problem on the back end which there was when i inquired with the speeds in peak times on/off to certain countries like America. They informed me of a submarine cable was cut and was likely to be fixed in feb 2024. Still the speeds are not stable for overseas but im wondering if ABB would be any different to Leaptel with the back end part of it.

            I Quick Google search with HFC Connection speeds " NBN HFC can offer residential speeds of up to 1000Mbps on download and 50Mbps on upload, depending on several factors. Moreover, speed can be even higher and stable when beamed by a reliable provider such as SpinTel. The speeds depend on the area's existing HFC network and the house's networking equipment."

            Even though they say this its like offering 2000/100 and yet your only capable of 1000/40.

      • Leaptel is using the same protocol as aussiebroadband and superloop? Dynamic or IPOE or DHCP?

        • +1

          Three you listed above are all the same, yes Leaptel is using IPoE/DHCP

          • +1

            @chickendog: My Leaptel is PPPoE

            • +1

              @itsme56: IPoE is what Leaptel use for new signups. PPPoE can be enabled in the Leaptel portal.

              • @Twix: Signed up last month and it defaulted to PPPoE. IPoE was enabled in the portal yet I needed to connect via PPPoE.

      • +1

        Am I alone being disappointed by the RSP pricing levels for higher upload speed? Why is there a greater premium per MB/s on upload as compared to download? I'm on 1000/50 and thought that since I read NBN is reducing the wholesale upstream pricing to RSPs that I would be able to transition to a lower down speed but higher up speed for less than this.

        250/100 more expensive than 1000/50. Can anyone explain why? And I'm talking about the non-introductory prices here.

        • +5

          It's not the RSP's fault, NBN dictate the pricing models and then the RSP has to determine how much they can stomach while not making a loss. From NBN's side they charge a premium on the higher upload tiers because they deem it as a business grade connection to have such a "high" upload speed, and they don't want normies eating into that bandwidth unless they're paying the price.
          There's also the argument that they modelled the asymmetrical speed plans as they have due to limitations in the HFC technology and didn't want to have separate plans for that.

          You can view the latest NBN pricing models in their PDF published https://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbn/documents/sell/sau/…

          • @chickendog: Yeah, and really no "normie" Australian is looking to self-host a single service, let alone multiple, or even start a server hosting service in their garage, which justifies NBN increasing prices for segmentation between "normie" customers and actual businesses and enterprises.

            Offering a "prosumer" or "self-hosted" tier is not very profitable for NBN, in contrast to keeping the existing lines in the sand between normal consumers and business-tier users.

            • @FujinShu: Who said anything about hosting services? My interest is in cloud services such as storage where upload speed is more important.

          • @chickendog: I didn't mean to imply it was the RSP's fault. With services like cloud storage/backup for your personal files and data higher upload speed is not solely in the realm of business applications. I am on FTTP so possible limitations of HFC don't apply. I'll do some more digging about the technologies and see what I can find out and also inquire to NBN about the pricing policy treating upload as a premium if such exists.

          • @chickendog: In case you're interested and can't be bothered reading yourself I see from the pricing road map there are some good price changes coming in about 6 months/! mid 2024 for the small business plans.

            The 250/100 tier will be priced at $75 wholesale from July (vs $100 today) and the 500/200Mbps at $100 (vs $160 today).

            Looking forward to see what the RSPs add on for margin. 500/200 would be sweet :-)

            • @yesplz: Hey mate, yeah already knew that, the pricing roadmap is in what I linked above and I'm well across this stuff :)

              These new Leaptel prices are accounting for that, as they are 12 month promotions.
              The only thing I believe may change is the 1000/400 plan.

              Thanks for following up anyhow.

    • +9

      Superloop are doing 1000/50 for $99/month for 6 months then $109/month after.

      I'm paying $89 for 12mths with Leaptel on 1000/50 (after doing a fibre upgrade) , but this deal is for people that need higher upload speed and not for people wanting 1000/50.

    • +3

      These are higher upload speed plans. Leaptel also do a 1000/50 plan for $99

    • +3

      Leaptel has 99 for 1000/50 as well for 12 months. After 12Month? Switch to superloop for another 6 month 99/m.

    • +6

      Who on earth is paying this? Superloop are doing 1000/50 for $99/month for 6 months then $109/month after.

      Huh? This is for 250/100, 500/200, and 1000/400, so up to 8 times the upload speed of 1000/50.

      For some, this is super useful. On my 1000/50 connection, it still takes a while to upload large data files when WFH, for instance, and being able to do this 8x faster would be nice. I also run a Nextcloud at home, and the 50 Mbps upload makes it very slow to access remotely.

    • +1

      The whole point of these plans is the increased upstream speed.

      If I were still doing WFH, I’d easily go for the 500/200 plan since I upload very large files quite often.

        • +19

          OnlyFans.

        • +7

          To increase their torrent seed ratio.

        • +3

          Because clients are impatient and want their files yesterday.

          • @skittlebrau: How long do they take to upload?

            • @jv: None of your damn business.

            • +3

              @jv: Depends on the project. Transferring 100GB would take about 6 hours at 40Mbps upstream speed.

    • +1

      NBNco put a high price premium for higher upload speeds, as a way to charge business users more

      • Shame there isn’t any “prosumer” or self-hosted pricing, but I suppose the businesses would abuse it instead and render itself moot.

  • -8

    250/50 would be a popular option to have.

  • Bummer just realized I missed their black Friday promo to change to 100/20 from 50/20 for $10 more pm. Hopefully they run another promo soon!

    • -3

      Hopefully they run another promo soon!

      Black Friday 2024

    • +1

      Leaptel 100/20 is still $74.95/m for 12 months.

      • +1

        64,95 if you are eligible for a free upgrade to fibre

        • +1

          And you're an idiot if you don't take up that offer ASAP.

  • Any WA customer comment on bandwidth? Seems too good to not be congested.

    • Just got connected today on the 1000/50 plan.

      getting 938mb/45.66mb

    • You can check their detailed CVC status here: https://metrics.leaptel.com.au

      Been on their 250/25 for quite a while and my peak hour connection is ~200 vs 260 down offpeak. My biggest complaint is the fact that all international connections gets routed to Sydney so latency to places like HK, SG and EU are much higher than other ISPs.

  • +5

    Leaptel is branching into a good market with these upload speeds.

  • -1

    I'm just having an unplanned outage in my area. Never happened with other RSPs. So annoying.
    Just found this thread - https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/801442.

    Looks like outages are quite common from leaptel. Will switch to other providers.

    Who is Leaptel using for the backhaul btw?

    • GSL for backhaul. nbn or Leaptel outage?

      • +1

        Leaptel is blaming their backhaul provider (that is fixing the issue right now).

        • Was with Leaptel and i have been an advocate for them however my recent experience with them felt like they are trying to act big and amazing when they're still just small. having a backhaul GSL they think that is a game changer it really isn't. In all honesty superloop is probably the best on the market for value and cost.

          • @memez: What happened to you?

            • @sfac: It's there way of doing business. When ever you mentioned other competitors and the direction they're going and ask them their plan for the future, there is none. For over a year there members control panel was meant to be upgraded and yet it still as useless as it was a year ago, the network speed is degrading as well, GSL is doing weird routing to US which often goes via Singapore now which is nuts. They have very little control over their network like superloop do. Sticky IP's are not possible which is almost essential these days. Their IPv6 is flaky as well. CGNat is a bandaid.

              The general feel is Leaptel don't actually have a roadmap to be better.

              • @memez: Via Singapore? Oh dear

              • @memez: I just did a MTR to WebNX in New York and it went straight from Sydney to LAX.

                If I ever notice anything odd with routing on GSL, a quick message to the rep on Whingepool forums gets it promptly fixed.

                • @Futura: certain networks they can. like HE, GTT Matt is pretty responsive but, they have a lack of direction… to expand.

    • My RIPE Atlas probe shows that it was online for 99.28% of the time during last month.

      Last week was 100%.

      • Check this one out - https://leaptel.com.au/service-status/
        The outage list is very long.

        • I can only see one current outage on the list for 2SYA Asquith Depot CSANSW and used the link you provided, so I am not sure where the others are to consider it a long list.

          • @Futura: Unplanned+ planned. Hopefully you can find a provider with that many planned outages.

            • +1

              @sfac: Routine planned maintenance is a standard practice among providers, essential for maintaining system reliability and performance. Such activities shouldn't be a cause for concern, as they are crucial for ensuring the network's optimal operation.

              • -2

                @Futura: That means their network sux that requires lots of maintainance and they are not from NBN?

                • @sfac: Actually, frequent maintenance doesn't necessarily indicate a poor network. Rather, it can be a sign of proactive management, where a provider is diligently working to prevent issues before they occur. This approach is often seen in high-quality networks. Also, it's worth noting that while Leaptel provides NBN services, they might also have additional network infrastructure that's independent of the NBN, which could be undergoing maintenance.

                  • -1

                    @Futura: If you check out the down time, it is like 6-8hrs at midnight's. I would assume they are just killing some international traffic's to save money when it is traffic busy on the other side of earth.

                    What if your mobile provider goes down for maintenance regularly? Would you consider it is a good network?

                    • @sfac: The downtime you've mentioned, occurring during off-peak hours like midnight, is actually a common strategy for network maintenance. This timing is chosen to minimise disruption for the majority of users. As for the assumption about international traffic, it's more likely about optimising network performance rather than cost-saving measures.

                      Regarding mobile providers, regular maintenance is also the norm, especially for network upgrades or to ensure service quality. It's the frequency and impact of these downtimes that determine the network's reliability. If the maintenance is well-scheduled and communicated, causing minimal disruption, it can still be considered a good network.

                      • @Futura: I guess different ppl have different service requirements.

                        For me, I'm not feeling my leaptel service is better than any other providers in terms of speed, latency and reliability.

                        I will definitely switch to other providers.

                        • @sfac: I completely understand where you're coming from, and it's really important that you find a service that meets all your needs and expectations. It's wonderful that you're so proactive about seeking the best possible experience in terms of speed, latency, and reliability. Making a switch sounds like a thoughtful decision for you. I truly hope your new provider delivers everything you're looking for and more, ensuring a seamless and satisfying internet experience. Wishing you all the best with your new service!

        • +2

          The outages clearly say they are nbn or opticomm outages. Every provider that offers nbn or opticomm will have them outages, however not all providers will be open and honest about it ..

          Also you say Sl are better, however there outages page is longer and more outages then Leaptel..
          https://smart-status.superloop.com/

          • @Samson2020: Correct me if I'm wrong - Leaptel's POI wide vs Superloop's individual addresses?

            I was with superloop for a long time before Leaptel. 0 unplanned outage and 1 planned (NBN) outage.

    • +2

      Backhaul from the nbn POIs to their POPs they're purchasing from FSG as far as I'm aware.
      For international transit they use GSL and for domestic transit they use Vocus.

  • +3

    500/200 looks to be quite a tempting sweetspot. Shame I'm on HFC. Stuck on 1000/50 for now.

  • +3

    cries in hfc

    • I was on ADSL until 2019, then VDSL (fttn) until a few months ago. Now you can feel my pain.

      • +1

        i had fttn at a previous house
        30/10 nbn

        i know your pain.

    • We're already reaching the limits for HFC. It's probably on a low list of upgrade priority for NBN at the moment, but HFC has to be upgraded to FTTP at some point.

      • tbh as a non gamer 50/20 is fine for me as my nas can upload stuff in the background as i sleep

  • Not sure about the other speeds but the NBN wholesale price for 1000/400 is $230. How can they offer it for the same price?

    Also do Leaptel have a Brisbane POP?

    • They're in two internet exchanges in Brisbane - https://bgp.he.net/AS134090#_ix

      I have four people, not including myself on Leaptel in Brisbane. One in Sydney.

      • Not 'til July 24. It just dropped to $230 recently.

        • Hmm sorry you are correct. I just went by the image of the table.
          It does look like they are getting a rebate of $60 for the plan according to the article so that makes it $170 I guess?

    • +2

      Probably willing to wear the cost until the wholesale price decreases. Get in early before everyone else to win customers.

  • Does Leaptel use CGNAT?

    • +7

      Yeah but you can turn it off for $0.

    • +1

      I think they do but you can opt-out in the portal.

      • Once off $10?

      • +4

        it was $0 for me

      • +3

        This is false. Enabling and disabling CGNAT is free for Leaptel users.

  • Nice. Going to start my own web host now lol.

  • Any other cheaper 250/25 plans?, need to switch this month from superloop

  • I love Leaptel!

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