Edit: Looks like these are returned headphones, see comments below
Edit 2: Some users are reporting other ohm models are brand new instead of returned stock.
Price drop on these incredibly popular headphones, excellent time to take advantage of the low GBP.
VAT is removed at checkout to bring the final price down.
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Keepa.
What happens if you move the cord?
Pretty difficult to not move the cords unless you are sitting very still.
@lostn: i dont know for sure though, microphonics is usually from iem's because they are inserted into your ear canals and as such can hear small vibrations, similiar to a stethoscope. Ive never had it on over ear headphones, unless he's damaged his somehow. I wouldnt be worried at all, I have the dt990's and have 0 microphonics.
Be aware if you have a larger head they have some clamp force.
as thedude23 said, microphonics. probably very hard to avoid in any wired set, though
as thedude23 said, microphonics
Everyone else in the world would call these "shithouse headphones".
probably very hard to avoid in any wired set, though
No - easy to avoid, simply by buying a different brand.
No wonder so many of these are RETURNED, if you cannot even wear them and move.
Listen to music? Yeah, great sound but you can only dance on the inside.
Pffft - microphonics ROFL.
@llama: i think these don't get that much love because they're a bit of a jack of all trades. Comfortable, except for the clamping. Great sound, but long ass cord. Cheaper than others, but not cheap on RRP. Closed, so less soundstage. Circumaural, but hardly portable. And arguably ugly when worn. And even though they're cheap, you need an amp to get the best from them. Great for computer use, but no mic.
Then you have a faulty headphone or dodgy audio cable.
It's actually not that bad. Just more noticeable than my microsoft lifechat. It kind of makes me want wireless headphones.
What sort of mic would you suggest to use with these?
I use an Antlion modmic. Quite expensive, but works perfectly.
Good lord that is expensive.
I'm not willing to splash out on a mic yet, so I have a microsoft headset with a mic around my neck, and I wear these headphones over my ears.
I feel ya man, ive got some 'decent' sennheiser headphones (nothing too fancy) plus a $1 ebay lavalier mic which works surprisingly well
does 80 ohm need an amp?
Yes
You can drive these without a dedicated amp, yes. Many phones will drive these just fine out of their 3.5mm, and at worse you'll need to turn the volume up.
But do keep in mind that their sound will be 'improved' via an amp of some sort.
The higher the resistance (Ω) the more power is needed to move the driver. While it still may play without an amp, you arent using it to its full potential. They vary based on other spec's but 50 ohm would be my rule of thumb to use a pair un amped. I was gonna suggest this but it seems to be discontinued. Even a cheap portable/rechargable amp is sufficient.
The A3 is the successor to the e11 as far as I know: https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-Portable-Headphone-Amplifier-Bla…
i bought the 80 ohm version a few months ago, powered by mac headphone out initially. The sound was ok, but because the mac doesnt supply a powerful enough signal you lose some performance, mainly in the bass department.
As a solution i started looking at DAC/Amps and ended up with an Aune T1 which makes them sound fantastic.
you can get amps or dac/amps for a bit cheaper, the SMSL brand is highly recommended online for good sound and value.
So theres a catch, buy great quality headphones —> buy amp or dac/amp —> spend more money on even better audio gear :)
I haven't bought an amp yet, and am pretty happy with the sound from my laptop without it. so no.
Well, it's £99.95 now
VAT is removed at checkout to bring the final price down.
Serious question here, how would these compare to beats studio 2.0?
"Serious question here, how would these compare to beats studio 2.0?" /s
There, fixed it for you
No way Dre would try to hustle you bro cuz it's not like he's a hustler or anythang.
Beyerdynamic are audiophile grade.
Beats are Apple's rubbish mainstream crap for dumb hipsters.
Sigh
The fact that I said it was audiophile grade should have convinced you.
They're overpriced but not rubbish. They're also marketed extremely well, far better than any other headphone maker.
They are rubbish cos they are over priced. For the same money you can get audiophile fones
Bad value and a bad product aren't the same thing. Is everything outside of OzBargain deals 'rubbish' because it costs more?
Wrong, they are straight up rubbish. They are both a bad product at a bad price. They have audio quality of a product 1/4 of the price, making them a bad product
They are all about marketing, the products don't really match with the price.
Beats By Dre headphones teardown finds metal parts included just to add weight
How did I know that not one comment would be a serious answer from people who have actually heard both headphones.
Yes, I have heard both headphones. I have hipster friends.
Go on http://www.head-fi.org/ if you want to hear an intelligent argument, but I promise you, they will arrive at the same answer.
Beats are the new hipster thing now … ?
Yeah, I wouldn't hold head-fi particularly high as a place for intelligent argument.
So much snake oil and audiophile fluff.. http://www.head-fi.org/t/741043/some-hot-science-from-synerg…
This is purely anecdotal, but I have a mate who's in his second year of audio engineering school.
He told me: very first semester everyone brings their Beats cans to class.
By the end of the first week, everyone got rid of their Beats and looks for a proper set of cans.
No offence, but if you're turning up to audio engineering school with a pair of beats, you should probably look at a different degree…:P
(beats is what it is, and some of the newer models aren't rubbish, but it isn't that.)
Ye.. If you are in audio engineering, you should know better from the start, although you should be really spending your money on studio monitors and having a good room setup first.
beats it.
only another $25 with the exchange rate my cards are offering for Amazon UK, and presumably not b stock. A good deal I reckon.
Makes the deal even better since it's free express shipping and it's not returned stock. Would rather go with this without a doubt (plus the Addictedtoaudio folks are really good people, I'm happy to support them from my past experiences).
Bad news - looks like addictedtoaudio are out of stock at this price - hope those interested managed to get a pair before they ran out
How comfortable are they for extended use?
I need to know if either the band or the earmuffs get warm, and whether you feel any pressure around your head when wearing them.
I want some cans that feel so natural you don't even notice you're wearing them. And of course good AQ..
These are extremely comfortable for extended use. I've mixed for 12 hour sessions with mine with no issue.
They're circumaural - which means the 'muff' goes around your ear, not actually touching it. The muffs are also velour, so your skin breathes (unlike with sweaty plastics).
They come with a fair amount of clamping force when you buy them. I gave mine a stretch by leaving them wrapped around my PC case overnight.
Highly recommend DT770s, they're wonderful cans!
Are they suitable for use of outdoor and travel on the bus for example? They look small in pictures, not sure about in face to face.
Can you change the cable to a shorter one instead of a 3m one (1.2m)?
You'll have to get them modded/recabled if you want a shorter cable…
I used to use a pair as my portable headphone…jest kept the 3m cable in a massive loop! Recable would be much more convenient!
these aren't great in very noisy environments, e.g. on buses, because they still let a lot of outside noise in. not to mention that these are huge and not foldable. these were made for indoor, stationary use.
QC 25 were made for planes, buses and trains. Otherwise, in ear earphones + foam tips will serve you very well for travel and outside use.
They're closed cans though. Will your ears get sweaty from heat after a while?
I prefer open.
im very sweaty but i haven't noticed any ear sweat when using them. if you want open, dont buy these.
i felt a strong clamping force after wearing them about a week in. but i havent felt it since. i think theyre fine as long as you take them off every few hours. if you want something you can't even notice, these are not for you. quietcomfort 25s are much, much more comfortable.
Bose makes great noise cancelation but their audio is terrible. I actually want good sounding cans.
You could probably resell these at the same price you bought them for if you just wanted to try them
I've had mine for ten years, I would say after an hour of wear they become painful. Just the squeezing pressure on the ears and it has never improved. If you have a tiny head and small ears then maybe you'll fare better
I would never go for open cans, I do not want to hear ambient room sounds.
I have a very tolerance to clamping (which is why I got rid of my M50s). I'd recommend trying to (VERY GENTLY) bend the metal arms holding the cups a bit. Worked wonders for me (have a big head and ears).
*low
PS: Noticed later. :)
They are nearing the end of their useful life, the left driver cone must be munted as when driven with extreme lows it is 'scratchy'
Anyone know if these are paper or rubber cone components?
Checked the receipt nov 2001 paid $300. $20/ year isn't too bad.
Mine are 250ohm, I won't get into not needing an amp again…..
@CeeAyeEee: Ohhh wow! 15 years is a long time indeed.
Take a look if this helps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM4Qs5KzW54
@gearhead:
Super, thanks for that info.
Looks like some homework/ maintenance for me to do.
They have been pretty maintenance free, only loosing the itty bitty screw that locks the can on the pivot once. Once I found that I now check they don't come loose again…
Cheers!
@gearhead: the noise was from the perished foam just inside the ear cups vibrating.
I would not recommend disassembly as described in that video, it was too easy to break a solder connection.
excellent price
I am not to educated about Ohm's. What the deal with the and is higher or lower better?
The more ohms a headphone has, the more power it needs to run. This should work fine with your phone, but would sound slightly better with a dedicated amp.
What makes using more power a good thing?
The gist of it is, a headphone which uses more power is said to have better sound quality, paired up with the right equipment. I'm no audiophile, but I'm sure that someone would like to expand on this in terms of complicated audio terms.
@Dakshadow30: lower the noise floor so you have a completely "black background". But basically it's easier to fall within the "one eight rule" with regards to input and output impedance. That's why most flagship cans aim for 300-600
Would it not be the more ohms, the less power it needs to run?
I=V/R,
So lets say your soundcard is putting out 1 volt,
I = 1/32ohms = 31.25 mA
I = 1/80ohms = 12.5 mA
It would make sense that the lower the resistance, the harder it is to drive, which is why you shouldn't plug 4 ohm speakers into 8 ohm outputs.
Hmm but then to make the 80 ohm headphones louder, you up the voltage (volume).
Luckily this can help me:
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com.au/2011/02/headphone-impedance-e…
"HOSE NOZZLES: Impedance is roughly analogous to the size of a hose nozzle. A high impedance headphone is like a tiny nozzle. To get much water out you need a lot of pressure (voltage). A low impedance headphone is more like filling a bucket and requires more flow but not much pressure. A lot of headphone outputs on devices are good at one, OR the other, but not both. So it’s important to know which you have and match the headphone accordingly."
That's..not how it works. Even without involving maths, logically the higher the resistance the harder it is to drive, that's the very definition of resistance. It seems like you've misinterpreted your maths as well, at 32 ohms the driver gets 31.25 ma which is greater than the 12.5 it gets at 80 ohms.
Total fail at the engineering talk. But nice try and you fooled a few people with your leet knowledge.
@saikyr:
Yes, you're totally right, I wasn't thinking of the drivers as the 'load', how embarrassing!
Should I buy these headphones? I have a pair of ATH-M50 and HD 25-1 II.
So much better than the ATH-M50.
It's that kind of dangerous comment that might cause me to place an order… tell me more
Haha, honestly … Terrific bass on these and far more articulation in the high end. And so much more comfortable. These are simply on another level.
Ahh you're tempting me too.
I have the ATH-M50s but I find the mid's a bit lacking.
How's the mids on these? Would you say overall purely on sound quality it's worth the investment over the m50s or is the difference minimal?
@montorola: you're gonna hate me. The difference is huge. The mids are terrible on the M50s. Everyone seems to enjoy the bass on the M50s, but I find they sound unnatural and dominate the sound at the expense of everything else.
@Risto: Absolutely agree with you on the signature on the M50.
@smokenmirraz & montorola
Just to push you guys a bit further… :)
I bought my pair because I just couldn't stand how uncomfortable the ATH M50 was. While there was a fair bit of clamping, as the forks are metal, I just bent it a bit till it was comfy..
I've worn these for extended periods without realising. Just amazingly comfy. And being circumaural, they don't squish the ears.
@Risto: You just made me bought one of these DT770s :-) I love my M50 (connected via Fiio E11 to Ipod classic line out - for those on the fence regarding an amp, definitely makes quite a difference to the sound), and do agree that the mids are suppressed but this can be adjusted with EQ. Still I listen mainly to electronica and pop so enjoys the signature of the M50s. Cheers.
@smokenmirraz: Have you received yours yet? Mine came 2 days ago. Listening to Royksopp's Junior album @320 at the moment via Fiio E11 at the moment.
Didn't realize the M50 was so much more uncomfortable with the clamping pressure compared to these. However, these are so much more flatter compared to the M50, with hardly any bass in comparison. I had to switch the EQ mode of the E11 to +1 to +2, which improved on the bass. I happy to have both but I think for music, I might drift back to the M50 (but have to bend it a bit to reduce the clamping pressure).
@x d:
Yes, I received mine this week. Had fun listening to Lauryn Hill's 'the miseducation of lauryn hill', amongst others.
FWIW, I've put my M50 in a box somewhere for now.
What's the difference between the M50 and M50x?
What amp/dac would an ozbargainer recommend?
There aren't many homegrown models which is a shame, which means most are decently expensive. If you're going to be listening only at home then a solid state amp will do you just fine such as the Schiit Magni 2, or the Objective 2 amp. If you have some soldering skills you can buy the parts for the objective 2 fairly cheaply but you'll need to assemble it yourself (otherwise build ready made). I suggest googling either of these amps and having a read. In short they will present the audio exactly as it was intended (compared to tube amps which "colour" the sound, often warmer).
If you're planning on moving around a lot then I think a portable amp/dac combo would be fine such as one made by Fiio.
Check out www.reddit.com/r/headphones for more advice
I'm in love with my fulla schitt.
I actually had to Google that, wasn't sure if serious. But did they think that through?
yeah, its their gimmic. Aside from their norse mythology themed names there is the aforementioned Schiit Fulla and the Schiit Wyrd USB thingy… geddid?
does your fulla schitt emit an electronic high pitch 'static-y' sound when you turn the knob up to higher volumes?
I get this when plugged into any of my 3 computers, and sometimes plugging in certain other USB devices aggravates it, so I usually pull out my other usb peripherals before using this
Funny you ask that…it didnt used to but it started doing that around a month ago…its intermittent and its usually fix itself after i move around the cord…
i found this article very handy https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/comments/4kyg38/guide_dacs_hea…
based on Zeos' reviews, i had almost bought the SMSL M3 which is roughly $100 on ebay or amazon. I got carried away though and ended up with something twice that price
the Fiio e10k is also highly reviewed and around the $100 mark
Check out something like the Topping NX2. Acts as a DAC and an AMP, and has plenty of power for these headphones. Also has a built in battery.
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Crap I paid over$200 a few months ago. Wonderful sound. Just don't move the cord while wearing them. Add a mic and you're set for PC use