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Farewell Jumbo 747 Joy Flights - Economy $400, Business Class $747 @ QANTAS

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Last flights on the final 747 jumbo.

Qantas has announced a program of events to farewell its last remaining Boeing 747 and provide Australians the opportunity to say goodbye to the much loved “Queen of the Skies” ahead of its retirement from the national carrier’s fleet.

The airline will operate three one-hour “farewell jumbo joy flights” departing from Sydney, Canberra

The flights will go on sale at midday on Wednesday 8 July on Qantas.com and will operate on Monday 13 July (Sydney), Wednesday 15 July (Brisbane) and Friday 17 July (Canberra). Economy fares cost $400 and a small number of Business Class tickets will be available for $747 with additional extras included.

The flights will be operated on a cost-recovery basis and profits will be donated to the HARS Aviation Museum at Albion Park (Wollongong) and the Qantas Founders Museum in Longreach to support their efforts to preserve and promote the 747 legacy for future generations. Both museums have a Qantas 747 on public display.

The final 747-400 in the fleet will depart Sydney at approximately 2pm on 22 July 2020 as flight QF7474.

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  • +86 votes

    Will the pilots do a barrel roll during?

    • +17 votes

      How many Gs are we talking about

      • +18 votes

        Assuming it’s well executed…1G

        • +13 votes

          Aleiron Roll is 1G manoeuvre and can be teorically execute in any aircraft, barrel roll is not.

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            @Chridim: It won’t be exactly 1, but you can average close it. If you’re good.

          • +96 votes

            @Chridim:

            teorically

            Alan Joyce has joined the thread :)

          • +2 votes

            @Chridim: what stops other aircraft from doing a barrel roll? asking for a friend

            • +22 votes

              @Super64: In most cases, the pilot.

            • +1 vote

              @Super64: Structural limit. barrel roll is an aileron roll and loop combined, a 2-3G manouvre.
              An aileron roll is a 360 degrees rotation on the aircraft axis. If done properly it's a 1G manouvre.
              There is a video of a 707 doing aileron roll.

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                @Chridim: A barrel roll is called a barrel roll because you are rolling around an imaginary barrel. It definitely isn't a loop. We used to demo this at air shows with a tiger moth and a chipmunk. Have the chipmunk doing the roll around the tiger moth.
                Basically the only aircraft that can do an aileron roll without substantial changes in G's are some military jets and some high end purpose built aerobats.
                The vast majority of aircraft will pull less G's doing a barrel roll.
                If you look at the 707, it was more a barrel roll. It wasn't possible to do an aileron roll around its axis and the flight path was more like a corkscrew

                Also it isn't structural limit stopping it. A barrel roll is very gentle when done correctly

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                @Chridim: Ok makes sense. I thought it was more to do with the computers stopping the plane from going into an aggressive attitude/orientation.

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                @Chridim: "An aileron roll is a 360 degrees rotation on the aircraft axis"

                Which axis, x, y or z? ;)

          • +1 vote
      • +4 votes

        [Because I was inverted](https://ibb.co/DKDTwcD

      • +23 votes

        Hopefully not 5. That gives u covid 😷

    • -19 votes

      do a barrel roll

      Like this ???

    • +17 votes

      Do a barrel roll (press Z or R twice)!

      • +4 votes

        Say "OK Google, do a barrel roll" and see what happens!

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          Tried this. Loved it.

    • +6 votes

      you only get those in 737-max

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      That's Virgin's style… might as well!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi0_u_WaPWk

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      srs question guys, as a civilian is there any simulator somewhere in the world where we can experience different level of Gs?

      Since not everyone in OzB is not Pete 'Maverick' Mitchell.

      • +4 votes

        Yep for USD$4000. http://rusadventures.com/tour35.shtml

        Or you could go take an aerobatic flight for a hell of a lot less.

      • +4 votes

        Depends how much you're willing to spend, you could do a Jet Fighter Flight or Drive (yourself) a V8 Supercar… Both will give you some G's really, obviously the car not as much as the Jet…

        Jet Fighter from $1,400

        V8 Supercar from $269

      • +10 votes

        'G-Force' is just acceleration, so you experience 'G's' every time you move.
        To experience the maximum number of G's, find the highest building you can and jump off of it. You'll experience 1G on the way down then many, many G's instantly once you hit the ground.

        • -1 vote

          Ack-chully, in free fall you'd experience zero G, followed by many dozens of G force during the stop…

          • +5 votes

            @WARvault: Incorrect. Falling is the process of 1G (9.8m/s^2) being uniformly applied to your body. If it was zero G you would step off the building and stay exactly where you stepped.

            • +3 votes

              @1st-Amendment: Depends on context.
              During free fall gravity is having a 1G effect on you, but you are not feeling that force as you are falling.
              I'd argue that when standing stationary you experience 1G, when free falling 0G, when landing.. well depends on how soft the surface is, but for a large enough fall onto a hard enough surface, maybe you won't feel much at all.

              ::edit to clarify::
              I am referring to what is 'felt', by definition falling is gravity having an effect on your mass.

            • +1 vote

              @1st-Amendment: We always have 1G being applied to our body, that's gravity. That gravity is the same when you are falling, it's still 1G.

              the only difference between standing and falling is that the ground is pushing equally back on your feet 1G when you stand.

              You 'experience' zero G whenever you stop 'pushing back' on the force being applied to you, so in a free fall you'll experience zero G as you're not pushing back on anything (except for air drag). Even in orbit astronauts still have the 1G of gravity force being applied to them, but since they don't push back on anything (and are essentially permanently free falling), they 'experience' zero G.

              To experience 2G or whatever, you need to be in a vessel that's pushing on you at 2G

              • +1 vote

                @charliegrc: You guys suck at physics

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                @charliegrc: I think G force is an acceleration force. 1G on the earth is the same force as 1G in freefall as no changes in acceleration…..actually both read zero.
                An aerobat aircraft has a G meter that reads zero on ground and would read zero if it was attached to a skydiver
                It is measure relative to 9.8 ms acceleration though

                Happy to be corrected wrong, I'm a pilot not a physicist

                • +1 vote

                  @slipperypete: Are you sure about the G-meter in aerobatic aircraft reading 0 on the ground? I expect it to be 1.
                  The HUD on a fighter jet shows 1.0 when at rest.

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              @1st-Amendment: In a free fall you experience 0 G. It’s not an opinion. It’s a fact

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                @SteatoLegato: 'Experience' and 'feelings' aren't physics…
                Falling requires a force to be applied (Newton's first law). Force creates acceleration (F=ma). 'G-Force" is just another name for acceleration at 9.8m/s^2 per 'G'.
                Saying something is a fact doesn't make it so. Your logic is fail.

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                  @1st-Amendment: That is acceleration. Not accelerating in freefall

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                    @slipperypete: You seem to be focusing only on the free fall part, not the whole journey.
                    To get from not falling to falling you need to accelerate (1G on earth).
                    To go from falling to stationary again you need to accelerate (negatively - at many G's).
                    This is Physics.

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                      @1st-Amendment: If you are not accelerating you are not having a G force.

                      "In Newtonian physics, free fall is any motion of a body where gravity is the only force acting upon it"

                      After literally a couple of seconds you have gravity vs drag, after several more seconds you get to the force of gravity=drag and you no longer are accelerating. Not sure but somewhere around 10 seconds

                      We are commentating on the sentence "In a free fall you experience 0 G".

                      So you are experiencing 0G after roughly 10 seconds

                      • +1 vote

                        @slipperypete: That’s a no. In “free fall” in earths atmosphere you have drag so that’s a force so it’s not a free fall - we’re talking in vacuum. Yes you’re accelerating but because there are no other forces acting on you apart from gravity, it is 0 g. Even if you’re falling on Sun, it is 0g unless you’ve got another force like air drag or surface pushing up to stop you from free fall.

                      • +1 vote

                        @slipperypete: I think we arguing different things here, the difference is that my original post was talking about the complete journey not just the middle bit ie:
                        1. from stationary to falling there is acceleration
                        2. free fall there is still acceleration but no counter forces (other than drag or perhaps rotation depending on how you fall)
                        3. from falling to impact there is acceleration (negative)

                        Everyone in the thread seemed to get fixated on just part 2 for some reason.

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                @SteatoLegato:

                In a free fall you experience 0 G. It’s not an opinion. It’s a fact

                correct

                "Objects allowed to free-fall in an inertial trajectory under the influence of gravitation only feel no g-force, a condition known as zero-g (which means zero g-force)"

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          Lots of people confusing acceleration and force here.
          Acceleration is change in velocity. If your velocity is changing you are accelerating. If it is not you are not.
          Force is mass multiplied by acceleration. This is where all the force balancing comes up that many are raising. If the forces acting on something don't cancel out, there will be acceleration in that direction. G-force is how much force we experience as a baseline on earth due to our individual mass and the earth's gravity.
          If you jump off a building you will accelerate at 1g (little g for accelleration) initially and continue accellerating (but at a slower rate as air resistance creates an ever increasing opposing force) until you hit the ground. You will then verrrry rapidly decelerate which results in a very high force. This can be measured in G (big G for force) if preferred.

          • +1 vote

            @Lifeinflow: LMAO thanks guys. A conversation asking for a simulator/experience recommendation turned into a suicide recommendation which morphed into physics debate.

            Love you all!!! ROFL

      • +1 vote

        Or a rollercoaster as an even cheaper option.

        https://rollercoaster.fandom.com/wiki/Highest_G-Force_on_a_R...

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      Would you like me to?

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      as long as my food and beverages stay on the table, they can do anything they want

  • +14 votes

    Basically Victorians can't go then :(

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      You have until midnight tomorrow to escape…

      • +2 votes

        … and share the love.

        • +5 votes

          Hey.. sharing is caring.

    • +2 votes

      They should delay retirement of the 747 and then do a flight to Melbourne once all the lockdown has ended. If everyone co operates this spike should be under control in about a month.

      I flew on 747s all over the place in another era of travel and it is the longest serving and safest plane ever given the millions of flights it has covered and brought lots of joy bringing people together and some sadness when we have to say goodbye but knew that they were just a flight away from coming back again.

      All the new aircraft with their whiz bangery just doesn’t compare to the robustness and longevity of the 747.

      Sadly missed. 😔
      Always celebrated🙌🏻🍾🍻

  • +13 votes

    It's time to buzz the tower.

    • +20 votes

      Negative, Ghost Rider, the pattern is full.

  • +1 vote

    one-hour “farewell jumbo joy flights”
    Economy fares cost $400

    Buy i can fly from Syd to Perth for much less and its over 4hrs!

    • +12 votes

      Not on a 747 you cant

      • +3 votes

        Used to be able to every night

        • +4 votes

          Used to- being the keywords

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        Who cares? I catch a plane from point A to point B, not pay 10x the amount for point A to point A.

        It's Ozbargain mate, not OzJoyFlight

    • +18 votes

      i can fly from Syd to Perth

      This is a joy flight though…

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        An Alan Joyce flight…i hear he's a very happy man. At these prices no wonder!

  • +23 votes

    When are they doing the same for the A380?

    • +2 votes

      burn

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      Please explain?

    • +1 vote

      A380s have been put on ice till 2023 by Qantas.

      The plane is now a flying dead duck because it relied on high numbers of travelers to achieve economies of scale plus having airports big enough to accommodate the plane. Now they are looking to smaller jets because they are more economical and an airline can pivot and be more flexible with flights and numbers of travelers.

      The A380 has become the equivalent of a wooly mammoth as airlines around the world dump the plane. It is unfortunate but part of the circle of life of modern aircraft as newer generations become more cost efficient.

      • +1 vote

        I'll be honest, I'm surprised Airbus aren't buying them back, stripping the interior out, re-using them to refurb other planes and then selling them off to cargo companies.

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          The cost to strip out a plane and retrack and assess the condition of every part is too high compared to just using new parts.

          The A380 can be converted into a freighter but this is also time and cost inefficient. The plane was designed to carry more people in an attempt to meet growing demand.

          Here is an article about the A380

          https://www.wired.co.uk/article/airbus-a380-failure

        • +3 votes

          The A380 isn't a good freighter because the top level floor isn't able to take serious freight load. If you took the floor out and had one large space, there wouldn't be the appropriate access to be able to take advantage of the tall space. The 747 can flip its nose up to have a large opening into the fuselage. On an A380, the cockpit is in the way as it was purely designed to be a passenger aircraft first and foremost.

          You would fit more usable cargo in a 767 or DC10 and it would be far more efficient. The 747 is a much more capable freighter and will still be flying long after the A380 disappears from the skies.

          Personally I will mourn the loss of the A380. It has the most comfortable economy cabin I have ever flown in.

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          A380 cargo conversion is possible, but still not a good idea.

          https://onemileatatime.com/hi-fly-a380-cargo/

  • +7 votes

    Yeah, nah 😷

  • +17 votes

    So it’s just flying in a circle for an hour?

    • +91 votes

      Yep, paying money for the worst parts of flying without going anywhere, what's not to love?

      • +20 votes

        Aerosexuals will disagree.

      • +20 votes

        You're not the target audience. It's the most iconic plane of all time that has been in the QANTAS fleet for decades. This is for air enthusiasts, especially those who have grown up flying on such planes. I would never purchase this myself, but keep in mind this is offered with a niche target audience in mind.

        • +6 votes

          Looking at the back of one economy seat is exactly the same as looking at the next, no matter what aircraft you're on.

          • +17 votes

            @Maloo: No it's a celebratory event where there is a lot of socialising and a way for air enthusiasts to engage with each other and QANTAS employees, and of course being the last to fly on such an aircraft that has been transporting Australian's for decades.

            If you think people are just sitting down starring at a seat the whole team, then you are mistaken. Again it's for a niche target audience, I'm sure anyone of us here can think of an experience we've spent hundreds on, or some collectible we've paid too much for, and so forth.

            Value of things vary between individual. Why judge what others are enthusiastic about?

            • +12 votes

              @flooressence:

              a celebratory event where there is a lot of socialising

              COVID-19: Let me introduce myself.

            • -4 votes

              @flooressence: Because this is Oz bloody bargain not OzEnthusiast, not OzAdvert, not OzQantas

        • -1 vote

          but keep in mind this is offered with a niche target audience in mind.

          And being promoted on Ozbargain which it ain't

    • +14 votes

      Don't they end up doing that anyway when they get near Sydney Airport? Lol

  • +15 votes

    What's the usual price? Not sure this is a bargain, just an ad/news report?

    • +12 votes

      Limited edition events are often regarded as a bargain. There's no price you could pay for this once it's done.

      • +1 vote

        It isnt like Qantas is the last remaining operator of the 747..

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          Just the last remaining operator of the 747 for passenger services in Australia.

          I don't think any more 747s are flying into Australia unless charter or freighters (or government flights) - all of which are hard to get access to.

    • +1 vote

      Given Qantas haven’t retired their 747 fleet before m, how would one calculate the usual price?

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    Depart from sydney to…where? or nowhere?

    seriously, is it the plane qantas fly the route Syd-tokyo with?

    • +7 votes

      Not anymore. All 747s are being scrapped. Last chance for aviation enthusiasts to fly on it before its gone. Profits donated to charity.