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[Pre Order, NSW] Tesla Model Y RWD $74,311, Performance $105,590 (Drive Away) @ Tesla

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Long awaited Model Y orders have opened

RWD has estimated arrival dates of Aug-Nov 2022
Performance ETA of Nov-Feb 2023

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    • -1

      Compared to similar luxury vehicles, it's cheaper, faster, better features, and lower running costs.

      • +32

        Model 3 and Y do not have the interior of 'luxury vehicles'. The single centre screen is such bad design imo. For a car you want tacticle feedback on buttons.

        • -5

          Sure, If you're not prepared to move on from decades old styling language. Dials, knobs and buttons (read clutter) don't = luxury, rather legacy dated appeal. Luxury means a frictionless efficient user experience, this sometimes comes with the requirement of a user being willing to adapt.

          • +23

            @Hipsi: Tactile buttons doesn't equal luxury, agree, but let's not pretend the single interior screen is not a cost saving measure. It's also OK for people not to like it.

            Personally, I find it impossible/dangerous to try and interact with anything without tactile feel and feedback while driving. Easier (& safer) to turn on demist when you can feel for the button and feel/hear the click than to try and find it on a touchscreen.

          • +11

            @Hipsi: Having to use a touch screen to open the glovebox is crazy. I couldn't believe it when I saw it!

            • @WatchNerd: It's a security step since the USB storage for the cameras in in there… but yes it is annoying.

            • +1

              @WatchNerd: Me - says "open glovebox" and the glovebox opens automatically - Tesla Model 3…….

          • +8

            @Hipsi: Build quality, minimal + uniform panel gaps and customer service are all hallmarks of luxury - None of which Tesla do well at the moment.

            A pretty screen and minimalist design, as nice as they are do not equal luxury

            • +1

              @sovereign01: Build quality /panel fitment issues are a hang over from the freemont factory. Our cars don't come from there anymore.

              As far as customer service goes, I can only speak from my own experience which has been far better than I have received from any other manufacturer in the past, BMW included.

              • +3

                @Hipsi: Sorry are you suggesting I need to work out what factory a Tesla was built in before I can establish whether it was built well?

                That doesn't sound very luxurious.

                • @sovereign01: The same as many other automakers, yes. Mercedes and BMW build some of their cheaper cars in South Africa and the US, Audi in Mexico and they are markedly inferior to German built examples.

                  US built Teslas are mediocre, China built ones are pretty good according to me and other owners. You really have to be aware of what you're buying no matter what brand you look at.

          • +12

            @Hipsi: I have to disagree. More than anything, touch screens are a cost-cutting effort. Benefitting Tesla, not you. Proper dials and buttons for often-used features are not only more pleasant to the touch and easier to use. They're also safer. People have to take their eyes off the road to find what they're looking for on he central screen.

          • +6

            @Hipsi:

            Sure, If you're not prepared to move on from decades old styling language.

            Lol, Tesla's 'curvy' styling language is circa 2008. The trend in the last couple of years is boxy but they are still stuck in last decade. Even Hyundai has more modern styling language than Tesla.

            Dials, knobs and buttons (read clutter) don't = luxury,

            Is that what Elon told you? Tactile feedback always beats a touch screen for critical functions. You need to able to operate controls without taking your eyes off the road.

            Luxury means a frictionless efficient user experience, this sometimes comes with the requirement of a user being willing to adapt.

            So it's both friction-less but you also have to adapt therefore making it not friction-less? Do you read what you write or just vomit on the keyboard and hit send?

            • +1

              @1st-Amendment: Yeah, and EVERY other carmaker has not moved to big touch screens since the Tesla Model S came out and changed the game TEN years ago…….

              • @dtpearson:

                Yeah, and EVERY other carmaker has not moved to big touch screens since the Tesla Model S came out and changed the game TEN years ago…….

                You obviously never watched Pimp My Ride..

        • +2

          Spoken like someone who hasn't sat in a Tesla before.

          I had my reservations about the screen too, but it's a total non-issue and I can't stand going back to the garish interiors of other cars. The Tesla interior (especially in white) is stunning.

          • +2

            @loksmack: I've sat in a Tesla. I've also heard from many drivers who don't appreciate the control layout changes at Tesla's whim so they have to take their eyes off the road to locate the demist.

            • +1

              @Deals For Days: Oh totally agree about changing the UI, it can be a pain in the arse.

              But in reality, you almost never need to touch the screen while driving. AC controls might be the only common time, and they haven't changed dramatically enough to be an issue.

            • @Deals For Days: You mean the UI that Tesla improved (for free, in an over-the-air update), and then changed some things back that their customers wanted put back (for free, in an over-the-air update)? How do you do that with physical buttons and dials? And how often do other existing carmakers do that? = Never.

          • +1

            @loksmack: Agree screen is very easy to get used to. Never found myself wishing for physical buttons, dials and nobs. Could be because I was too busy listening to the sudden sound of rushing air minus the jet engine noise.

          • +1

            @loksmack:

            Spoken like someone who hasn't sat in a Tesla before.

            I've been in a Tesla. It felt underwhelming and cheap and it changed my mind about buying one.

        • -5

          iPhone 13 and Samsung S21 do not have the feel of 'luxury phones'. The single centre screen is such bad design imo. For a phone you want tacticle feedback on buttons ie Nokia and Blackberry.

          • +2

            @drfuzzy:

            For a phone you want tacticle feedback

            Touch interfaces work for some things and tactile interfaces work better for others, especially when operating heavy machinery that requires you not divert your eyes to control ancillary functions. Everyone seems to understand this concept except Telsa fanboys…

        • Only the missing central speedo is a problem.

          What other buttons are you using on a modern car? They have smart climate control so shouldn't be a need to fiddle with that. Music is all phone pairing based these days. The steering wheel buttons do all the regular modern music, phone and nav scrolling.

          20 buttons and dials is from a bygone era of radios and manual aircon control.

        • i mostly do voice commands whilst driving. the only time id touch the screen during a drive is when my accent is too weird for tesla to understand. lol. most days, the right button is my friend. completely does what i'd normally do touching the screen

          i do love the heated steering wheel and seat warmers. my tush has never been as toasty

      • +20

        So not a bargain, just wanking about a brand you like?

        • +1

          This.

      • +2

        Lower running costs until the battery pack needs replacing.

        • Well.. tesla gives a long warranty on the battery… but should it fail… the repair will be more than the car at that stage

          • @hippyhippy:

            the repair will be more than the car at that stage

            That's sounds good for the environment…

      • Tesla is best in electric category , if you after electic but no way near luxury, boring as bat shit when it's come to interior and exterior. Hence this isn't a bargain since its a retail.

    • If your you're in the market for a luxury car in this price segment, then this would be a bargain compared to its competition.

      People looking at byds and mgs won't find this a bargain.

      • +2

        Still not really considered a bargain when it's just a cheaper alternative, otherwise OzB will be full of 'bargains'.

        If I'm in the market for a vehicle that operates on 4 wheels, you wouldn't consider buying a Toyota/Mazda a bargain for the purposes of posting on OzB when compared to European cars.

    • +5

      Honestly, it's not. You can make arguments that it is cheaper to buy/own/run compared to a similar ICE vehicle, but this is still more of a "availability PSA" at RRP. As for whether posts like that belong here, pretty sure that's a never ending debate lol.

      Personally I don't think it should be, but people seemed to be okay with GPU availability posts (at inflated prices no less) during the shortage, and PS5 availability posts at RRP these days. At least for those posts, there's an actual case to be made that availability is scarce. The Model Y however will always be available to order, so.. 🤷‍♂️ (maybe a post is warranted for a price drop in the future?)

      • +7

        What you're missing is that claiming a certain price is a "discount" isn't what makes something a bargain.

        In all your examples, those things are in fact a cheaper price than what you can otherwise buy them for.

        E.g.: a PS5 at RRP is still a bargain for people who want a PS5, since the only alternative is whatever scalpers are charging (or not buying one).

        The whole point of a bargain site is to alert each other to unusually good deals, compared to whatever price is actually available. Whether a deal is below "RRP" or "MSRP" or "normal price", or any other arbitrary or imaginary price doesn't matter at all. The real price is what you can actually buy it for today.

        The Model Y however will always be available to order

        That is definitely not the case. Most (all?) other electric vehicles in Australia already have long waiting periods, and these won't have 2022 delivery dates for much longer.

        • +1

          What you're missing is that claiming a certain price is a "discount" isn't what makes something a bargain.
          In all your examples, those things are in fact a cheaper price than what you can otherwise buy them for.

          Yeah I did understand for PS5s and the like, as due to their scarcity even a shop selling at RRP is a rare occasion.

          The whole point of a bargain site is to alert each other to unusually good deals, compared to whatever price is actually available.

          Yep I agree. This is probably where the endless debate comes from, i.e. whether something at RRP but you can get it "now" is considered a bargain. I personally don't mind the wait times (within reason of course), so to me the fact that you can always place an official order at RRP makes this not a bargain and more of a PSA. To someone who is actually considering paying scalper prices though, they might feel this is a bargain, which is understandable too.

      • Yeah, and people also routinely call out those PS5 and GPU posts.

        The difference is dozens of other people aren't then replying with "but the PS5 is cheaper than a MacBook Pro so it's totally a bargain!"

  • -2

    Thanks for this. Just bought 20

  • +9

    Need more brown coal to power all these…

    • Don't you have hamsters generating electricity for your house? Get with the times JV slave Labor is back in fashion

    • +2

      How about the 2.1GW of wind power being produced in VIC right now?

      • +4

        So will there more wind to power all the additional Teslas ?

        What if there is no wind that day? Will we need to stop driving ??

        • +4

          Haha this one made me laugh
          How lucky is OzBargain to have our own version of KenM

        • +3

          Australia has the best solar land availability of the entire planet. Daytime power is not going to be one of our concerns over the coming decade.

          • +1

            @joelmuzz: I guess we don't need power at night to charge all our Teslas…

            • +1

              @jv: It's pretty obvious that off-peak timing is going to invert over the next few years. Day will be the cheap time so daytime charging will dominate.

              Hopeless Liberals were prioritising their greenwashed Methane infrastructure scam, but hopefully Labor will understand that staff parking lots and street parking need as many chargers as possible to get most cars charging on solar.

              • -3

                @joelmuzz:

                but hopefully Labor will understand that staff parking lots and street parking need as many chargers as possible to get most cars charging on solar.

                What do you think it will cost to uplift the nation's electricity infrastructure to support even 50% of the nation's 20M cars?
                Current costs are over $100k per public fast charger. Multiply by say 10M cars and you're looking at $1Trillion before we even talk about the supply upgrades. Yep, that definitely sounds like sort of crazy white elephant that Labor would do…

                • +2

                  @1st-Amendment: Commuter parking doesn't need fast charging, just basic 10 amp the cars can suckle on all day.

                  Government doesn't have to pay, just get the red tape out of the way so that there is nothing blocking private rollouts.
                  Create an Australian Standard for running a rubust power duct along the top of gutters and power plug bollards or whatever.
                  Create a standard smart socket metering and billing protocol.
                  Make the states add EV on-charge exclusive parking into the road rules.

                • +2

                  @1st-Amendment: $100k, crazy fast superchargers are only of use on rare long trips. My $700 wall charger works just fine to fill my car up from my Solar PV system. Are you suggesting that we keep sending Saudi Arabia $50 billion per year forever?

            • @jv: Correct, you don't. EV charging is not a time sensitive load. Unlike things like cooking and heating, EV charging can be done at any time of day.

              • @chuq:

                EV charging can be done at any time of day.

                Unless you know, you need to go somewhere… which is the main purpose of a car ie on demand transport.

                • @1st-Amendment: At home, you charge whenever suits you. People don't use up 100% of their battery every day. I use about 1/3 in an average week.

                  When you are in the middle of a long trip, you charge at a fast charging station. All the big ones (Tesla, Chargefox, Evie) have purchase agreements with 100% renewable suppliers.

                  • -4

                    @chuq:

                    At home, you charge whenever suits you

                    If your job involves taking your car away from the house during the day it doesn't.

                    People don't use up 100% of their battery every day.

                    Some people don't but some will. All you need to happen is be low on battery and want to go somewhere unexpected and you're screwed. Sure this doesn't happen every day, but it only has to happen once.

                    All the big ones (Tesla, Chargefox, Evie) have purchase agreements with 100% renewable suppliers.

                    Yeah this is a bit of a scam, there's some wonky maths going in whenever you see these things. Not everyone can have renewable supplies, the capacity simply doesn't exist. In 2020 renewables sources accounted for 7% of consumption, of which wind and solar was about 3%. If 10% of the population tick the box on their electricity bill for renewables, how does that work?

                    • @1st-Amendment: And some people drive on "Empty" for miles - but there's enough fuel in the tank to get you to the next petrol station. Same with EV - there is reserve power in the battery to get you to the next charge station.

                    • +1

                      @1st-Amendment:

                      In 2020 renewables sources accounted for 7% of consumption, of which wind and solar was about 3%.

                      That is not true at all. Renewable energy was 21% of total supply in 2020, and 24% last year :

                      https://www.energy.gov.au/news-media/news/2021-australian-en…

                • +2

                  @1st-Amendment: 400-500km of range on a good ev, and the average commute is 16km, so yes, most of the time EV charging can be done anytime.

            • @jv: The battery in your EV can power your lights at night.

    • +1

      Need to learn about the wonders of it being possible to switch energy sources vs not being able to, bold man.

      • +1

        Will we be able to 'switch energy sources' in time for these new Teslas to arrive in a few months?

        • https://www.abc.net.au/4corners/digging-in:-why-powering-a-g…

          Renewable has its merits, but not as ideal as those living in the fantasy land.

          Sad but true, it is always that if I don't see it, it does not happens/exists.

        • +1

          Let's be honest, you don't care. You run 100% fossil fuels in your car now and that's not a concern to you. Stop trolling.

          • -4

            @chuq:

            You run 100% fossil fuels in your car now

            Tesla drivers in Australia are using 75% fossil fuels at present.

            • +6

              @jv:

              1. That's less than 100%
              2. It's reducing every year. A car bought today will be cleaner every year.
              3. Tesla drivers in Tas/SA are closer to 0% fossil fuels.
              4. It is a grid average and doesn't allow for the fact that those installing their own solar and those buying EVs overlap significantly.
              5. Most importantly. YOU DON'T CARE. You're trolling.
              • -2

                @chuq: It also costs 200% more than a conventional car
                You're not including the other environment impacts of Tesla cars
                They also do not contribute to tax revenue to improve roads as much as conventional cars…. You're trolling.

            • @jv: Only 75% - that's a good start - and in record time !!

              • -4

                @MITM: When you take into account the amount of fossil fuels required to manufacture the Tesla and transport it by ship to here, it is not a very environmentally friendly car…

            • +2

              @jv: Yeah, I am sure that 0% of Tesla drivers do not have solar PV system to charge their cars….

              And I am also sure that your 75% fossil fuel component will not change in the coming few years….

              And EVs are exactly as inefficient as changing fuel to movement as ICE vehicles….

  • Do they accept payment in Kidneys?

    • +7

      KidneyPay will be launched soon !!

      • Can I pay in installments. One kidney per week for 8 weeks?

        • Ah har! That is a catchy startup name.

      • Kidpay?

    • +1

      Judging by the way Elon Musk's obvious plastic surgery is coming along, he might start accepting payment in human skin soon.

  • What's the NSW rebate for this?

    • +1

      You only get the stamp duty rebate for this, it's a touch too expensive for the limited availability EV rebate.

      $2,635 of stamp duty rebate, according to the site.

      • It's only $150 above the threshold. It seems intentional.

        • The limited applications for the program in total probably would have made it a bit sketchy anyway, given I believe you need the rego and vin.

          I can't seem to find the number for how many have applied anyway, despite it saying that they would publish it as they go along. Might be behind the revenue nsw login.

          And as the more advanced autopilot features (Yeah yeah…) are a 10k add-on, that pushes you over the threshold for the stamp-duty rebate anyway. (I probably would assume people want most of the current features, minus summon.)

  • Come here to see bought XX comments.

    How can you charge it if you are going to Rural for a few weeks?

    • +1

      Like off grid? If not i think you can plug them in to a normal powerpoint. Otherwise if you go completely off grid regularly for long periods, it's probably not the car for you.

      • Like off grid? If not i think you can plug them in to a normal powerpoint

        Just thinking how people charge it if they just away for week and one charge not enough? Not regularly.

        • +1

          Depends where you're staying and what your plans are. Usually just bringing the wall adaptor and an extension cord and topping up overnight as needed is fine.

          If you need to travel 500+ km in one go, you have to start plotting via fast chargers.

          • -1

            @snep:

            you have to start plotting

            not really practical then…

            • +2

              @jv: how often are you driving 500km in one go?

    • +3

      How can you charge it if you are going to Rural for a few weeks?

      I was going to say this is the wrong car for rural areas, but there's actually a lot more chargers in country towns than I expected:

      https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/projects/electric-vehicles/…

      Not sure if it's enough to be practical yet, but that's quite a few.

      • -3

        Iirc Tesla uses a proprietary plug instead of the far more common type 2, so they're harder to find a charger for.

        • Standard Type 2 CCS works fine. Only the superchargers use the proprietary plug.

          Either way, nothing stopping you from charging of any single phase or 3 phase outlet. I know things can be a bit backward in the country but I'm pretty sure they have those in rural Aust.

        • +2

          The proprietary plug is US only.

          Everything (except leafs which use chademo I think) is type 2 in aus.

          I've used plenty of third party fast chargers (evie, chargefox etc.) with no issues.

          Edit: plugshare indicates some states do have superchargers with the proprietary connector — not sure if that's accurate, but there's an adaptor anyway I believe.

        • there's adapters…

        • +1

          Incorrect. Teslas can use type 2 and CCS2.

        • +1

          Iirc Tesla uses a proprietary plug

          Waiting for EU to force them onto USB-C

    • +3

      Tow a diesel generator and carry jerry cans

    • At charging stations, or at any power point.

    • Diesel generator.

  • -5

    This model is full of defects

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