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[Pre Order] BYD Seal: Dynamic $49,888, Premium $58,798, Performance $68,748 + On-Road Costs ($1,000 Deposit) @ BYD Automotive

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BYD's new Model3 competitor is now available for configuration and pre-order on BYD Automotive website, at a very competitive price-point :)

Est. Delivery Dec. 2023 / Jan. 2024

Eg.

BYD Seal Dynamic $49,888 +ORC
  • Ultra-Safe BYD Blade Battery - 61.44 kWh
  • Maximum Power - 150 kW
  • Maximum Torque - 310 Nm
  • Up to 510km range NEDC - 460km WLTP
  • AC Charging 7kW
  • DC Charging 110kW
  • 18 inch Alloy rims
  • 0-100km/h in 7.5s
  • Rear-wheel drive
  • Complimentary 1 Year Roadside Assistance included

Edit 19/10: Performance $50 price drop $68,798 —> $68,748 (thanks dasher86). See info about NSW EV rebate here.

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  • +144

    How is “preorder at RRP” a deal?

    • +27

      Be gone advertiser!!!!

    • +21

      Don’t you remember all the PS5 deals?

      • +1

        PS5 was at least about tracking availability, whereas this is nothing like that. It is putting an order in for a car following the entirely usual process.

      • The PS5s were always sold out and had resale value of anywhere between 900-1500AUD consistently for 2 years.

    • +11

      Why do people even care what the RRP for anything is? Would it be a bargain if the RRP was $100k and you could now buy it for $49,888 using the "top secret" coupon code?

      • +12

        The difference between "if you buy this now you'll get a great price that no one will get after the sale, which also makes the resale comparatively good value too"

        And

        "Normal price"

        • +2

          Like how if you bought the BYD Atto 3 preorder you got a great price that no one will get after the sale, which also makes the resale comparatively good value too?

      • +5

        Yes. That is literally the definition of a bargain.

        “a thing bought or offered for sale much more cheaply than is usual or expected”

        • +2

          Yeah, the RRP isn’t nonsense. It should be the primary gauge of value for an item. Where the RRP isn’t relevant is when it’s not accurate or truthful, or if it hasn’t been sensibly reduced with age and inflated during certain retailer promotions

          • +5

            @OzBerghainer: RRP is complete nonsense. There is a cost/wholesale price and that determines the retail listing price. RRP is just marketing.

          • +3

            @OzBerghainer:

            Yeah, the RRP isn’t nonsense. It should be the primary gauge of value for an item

            Lol You are every marketing person's dream come true…

    • +6

      Compared to Tesla Model 3 is better & much cheaper (more features & power)
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfm38L9Xdic

      • +2

        Ummm, no. Tesla RWD has more power, more torque and is 1.5 seconds quicker 0-100 than the base Seal.

        • -2

          Wonder if BYD will also have the same shit build quality as Tesla? Polstar seems to be solid.

          • +4

            @RBZ10: seems to be a bit better… but again, the bar Tesla set is very low

            and with a Tesla you don't get the personal Chinese monitoring, I mean customer care, streaming your car info to safe servers in the mainland :D

            • +10

              @CrazyTachikoma: Yeah you only get NSA, although seeing how Tesla's are built in China now you get the best of both worlds ;)

        • Watch the video & research. BYD has more useful features & is much better value. The autopilot is not applicable to AU & it's overhyped/not safe yet.
          BYD Seal Dynamic (Premium & Performance are better) has longer range (~144km),

          BYD Seal midrange has napa leather & bigger seats, ventilation & heat for all seats, 360° camera, quieter inside, better interior, drivers cluster, Head Up Display, indicator stalk, really nice centre console with actual buttons, rear video screen…

          • +3

            @taki: Does it include indicator stalks? I've got a Tesla Y and if Tesla remove the stalks on it as they are doing on the 3 refresh then this will be my last Tesla.

            • +3

              @gyrex:

              if Tesla remove the (indicator) stalks on it as they are doing on the 3 refresh

              Sounds like Tesla are going after BMW drivers. I think they skip the indicator option too.

          • +4

            @taki: You forget the biggest elephant in the room that isn't in the actual car. Tesla's charging network.

            That alone right now is a defining feature for Tesla. Over time it will change but as of right now this is a huge advantage for Tesla.

        • Im not sure why power/torque and 0-100 are the only factors to decide which is better.

          Both are fast enough for people not after sports cars and features/safety and price are determinants.

          Also it really depends which model you are comparing.

          • @Franc-T: Because they can get to next red light quicker so they can stop, decompress then floor it again. Or try to slide themselves dangerously into every gap in the traffic.

            Tesla drivers keep telling us about the performance per $ and I tell them to calculate total number of seconds saved vs the $ they paid in premium to just a slow car (say a Camry) and they go quiet.

            • +1

              @netjock: Dont get me wrong, I love having a decently performing car (Got a Stinger GT) but a lot of people get hung up on 0-100 etc times when its only a part of the driving experience.

            • +3

              @netjock: Performance (efficiency actually) per $ is a real metric. There was a recent MG4 EV vs Tesla M3 road trip comparison video just to compare the 2 using the same situations besides.

              Tesla used 3/4 of the electricity for the same trip.

              • @wackedupwacko:

                Tesla used 3/4 of the electricity for the same trip.

                Who actually cares when you've can charge for free from solar?
                Then the fact if you pay $10k less on the price of the car can the returns pay for the electricity

                A lot of people think of it as a one sided equation and talk out of their rear hole

                • @netjock: You're never really charging for free on solar. There's the opportunity cost. So if your feed-in tariff is $0.12 / kw, you would be losing that by charging your car. So essentially, you are paying that to charge.

                  Plus for road trips, you would most likely be charging at fast chargers which would cost quite a bit more.

                  • -1

                    @deejaygrub:

                    You're never really charging for free on solar

                    You really got the sarcasm.

                    Tesla people love to tell you they charge from solar for free. It is like they are attached to their solar from 7am - 7pm then go night crawling

                    • @netjock: Ah I see….

                      Well solar is not free but pretty cheap… a lot of people don't drive much during the day as they're either at work or home.

                      And you don't need a whole day in the sun to charge the car, just a few hours should give you enough to top up for the night crawling and even day crawling…

                      • @deejaygrub: You seen the solar production charts?

                        In Melbourne a 6.6kw will produce 40kwh in summer with a bell shaped curve. To capture 20kwh which is enough for 100km of range you'll need to be home between 10am - 2pm. 6.6kw is $5k before subsidy or $3.5k after. If you want a 10kw then it is $10k or $8.5k after subsidy.

                        • @netjock: Of course! I got 6.6kw solar which is a no brainer. Pays for itself in just a few years. It charges the EV via charge hq on pure sunlight. Occasionally I've charged at shopping centres and a supercharger for road trip. You can probably pay double what you would for an ice car and the TCO of would be about the same after 5 years.

      • I also don’t see lane steering?

      • +3

        How no one here has mentioned that Tesla's look pretty bland/rubbish and the seals actually look pretty ace, boffles the mind. C'mon nerds….who here actually cares what their car looks like…not enough of yas

        Btw, Im generally down on China, specially if I'm playin as GLA😉……but the eye likes what it likes

    • +1

      Well if you order before Jan 2024 in NSW you get free stamp duty and the rebate for the 1st and 2nd trim thus making it a deal for NSW

    • +1

      I guess it's a deal simply to get on the top of the waitlist.

  • +10

    Thankyou, I was waiting for this eagerly.

  • +22

    Where’s the bargain? And do you work for them?

    • it is cheaper than the Tesla equivalent, so therefore a bargain.

      • +51

        There is Nike equivalent shoes at Kmart for less than quarter of Nike price. Is that a bargain as well?

      • +16

        it is cheaper than the Tesla equivalent, so therefore a bargain.

        So we can post the entire catalog of carsales here because they are all cheaper than a Rolls Royce Phantom?

    • See my above comment

    • +1

      Speaking of China bad. That YouTube guy serpentza used to post all about his love of China but he has done a complete opposite. He totally craps on them every video… what people will do for clicks.

      • Ironic

      • +23

        there's good money hating on china, help spread the propaganda

      • +15

        Maybe he had bad experiences after living there?

        • Yes, he was taken to a fake tea place and made to buy a $20 cup of tea… but he does a new video every day about bad experiences like his ex girlfriend… You would think eventually you would move on, but it pays the bills to complain.

          • +10

            @Heaps for Cheaps: Does he love Chinese Muslims but dislike Arab Muslims?

          • +1

            @Heaps for Cheaps: Hahahaha, I've been this guy once in beijing…..was a real tea place though, I think. Who knows

      • +9

        Actually he would of said all the good and bad things while he was in China but he would of been locked up by the government if he said too many bad things for "national security". So now that he doesn't live there / ran away for his own safety. He can say what is on his mind. He's a YouTuber / social media figure getting clicks is their job.

      • +6

        that guy creeps me out with his 27/4 cheap suit, and claims he works in the 'medical field' when he just tutors ENG.

        • +1

          His wife is a doctor, but I believe he works alongside with his wife's colleagues who happen to be also doctors. He does something else as well but teaching English was a foot in the door for him in China.

      • +9

        I don't know any serpentza YouTube. I can say that I used to love china, then liked it, now hate going there. And the part of my family who is Chinese used to rave about how it's the best place to live - now they can't come back to Australia fast enough when visiting china.

        China has changed - for the worse

        • That is so interesting to read, although sad. If you have the time, could you elaborate on a few reasons they don't see it as it used to be?

        • -4

          "China has changed - for the worse"

          ~30 million Chinese nationals taken out of abject poverty will strongly disagree, extremely!.

          I get it you don't like it but it does not mean much more (no disrespect, just the obvious).

          A friend's son (who grew up in Australia) went to their ancestors land in China … horrified too because it is soo busy … soo full of people … EVERYWHERE!!!!.
          It is a personal thing.

          • +3

            @LFO: Authoritarian crackdowns are a change for the worse in most people's minds. People getting out of poverty is a good thing, but hardly a feather in the CCP's cap: they're only catching up after communism stunted growth for decades. Taiwan is what PRC should look like.

            • -1

              @JohnHowardsEyebrows: Authoritarian lockdowns sure
              lots of questionable things about China that I can't completely write off as biased reporting.
              but changed for the worse… to when are you comparing to?
              China that openly encouraged citizens to dob in their family for talking bad about the government
              the China that wouldnt let people in or out of China essentially breaking up families?

              Has the wealth divide gotten worse? sure, but the living conditions of the poor are either the same or better.
              and at least people can leave?
              and given how closed of the country was, there were probably way worst crackdowns and human rights violations than now.

      • +10

        The man has a love-hate relationship with China, loves the people and the various places especially rural places and some culture and whatnot but hates the government, corruption and bureaucracy and the bad habits that some Chinese people do as a result of poor upbringing by the CCP during the 1945 - 1989 period.

        • +4

          Unfortunately your nuanced view doesn't gel with the simpletons who defend the CCP.

          • @JohnHowardsEyebrows: Unfortunately. One can only scream out shill or Wumao before the next biggest piece of 'bad' news which is pretty much all news that can make China lose face or look bad…..

      • +3

        He usually has a point though which is what matters.

      • +2

        Because China has demonstrably changed for the worse. Not hard to follow his evolution in thinking as Xi's regime became ever darker.

    • +1

      How? Use your brain when speaking.

      • -1

        That could hurt …

    • +1

      typical braindead comments

    • -8

      They even have CCP propaganda bots on OzBargain to downvote that's crazy

      • Who are the usernames?

        • +6

          OzBargain hide the usernames of downvoters in order to protect the CCP.

          • +1

            @donga100: The founder of the site is taiwanese though

            • @first in line: I thought lookingforadeal7 was being sarcastic about how the stupid comment got downvoted so much. Looking at their other comments though they might actually believe it. 😯

      • Say the guys who spruk freedom of speech, then cannot handle the discourse of freedom of speech….

        • Say the guys who spruk freedom of speech, then cannot handle the discourse of freedom of speech….

          That is not what freedom of speech means. This is quite often confused by many people, but the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution which forms the basis of Classical Liberalism movement is that the government shall not interfere with an individual's right to express themselves.

          Here is the text:

          "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. "

          In this case IF the CCP and their proxies are participating in public forums to influence discussion by promoting or suppressing comments then it is a breach of free speech.

          • @1st-Amendment: LOL

            Freedom of Speech in our society is the right to enshrine what our government approves and censor what our government dislikes.

            "Freedom" as in free to act/think/speak, not as in free beer.

          • @1st-Amendment: No, in most cases, anyone pro China gets labelled as a CCP by the omg guy is a ccp troll if they don't agree with whatever statement is being made. That's supression by itself.

            Fanatics on both sides.

            I would think most are just normal people not being very articulate.

            • @CalmLemons:

              That's supression by itself.

              No it isn't, free speech works both ways. You can are free to say whatever you like and others are free to agree or criticise or ignore.

              I would think most are just normal people not being very articulate.

              As long as the government isn't suppressing those opinion why does it matter?

    • M'kay!

  • +6

    Interested in real world range at 110km, those figures above aren’t remotely close

    • probably between 300km to 350km at that top speed..

      • +10

        Atto 3 ER which has crappy drag coefficient can do 300km at 110kmh. The Seal Dynamic should easily do 350km or more.

        • Does that mean after a single stop the range is 80% of 300km that given that you can't charge it to 100% without waiting for one hour?

          I bet it's 20% range loss within 5 years. Imagine that.

          • +1

            @Naigrabzo: What? Struggle to understand what you are trying to say. It's LFP battery, you can charge to 100% (and you should at least once a week). Also LFP has between 3,000-10,000 cycles, it will take a looooong time to degrade.

            • @Bigboomboom: If you go on a trip, only the first charge is 100%. After that you can only charge to 80% unless you want to stop for one hour every 2 hours. So if you look at real range = 80% WLTP range. Then practical range is only 80% of real range.

              All batteries degrade fast if you expose them to extreme weather conditions. There is no way the current EVs batteries will last 3000 cycles.

              • @Naigrabzo: What extreme weather conditions? Plenty of EVs doing 500k - 1m km, BYD E6 and Tesla.

                Why would you want to wait an hour every 2 hours? Two hours driving ~ 200km distance ~ 55%, depending on your current SoC doesn't take much to replenish that at all. Seal Dynamics does 10-80% in 29 mins. Besides why would you need 100% charge when you stop every 2 hours?

                20% loss after 5 years, sure if you drive 100k km a year. Try again.

    • +23

      Just as petrol cars suck at low speed, ev’s weakness is high speed. If you’re running long distance all the time, choose a diesel. But most people are just jamming up the traffic where an EV really shines. In that case don’t even need extended range.

        • +41

          traffic where an EV really shines.

          A lesson in reading and comprehension goes a long way.

            • +5

              @Tiggrrrrr: What car did you pick up to get 0-100 in 3.8s?

                • +5

                  @Tiggrrrrr:

                  an EV

                  When did I say this EV?

                  And this EV comes in a model which does do 3.8s to 100. Clearly you realised your car can’t beat this.

                    • +22

                      @Tiggrrrrr: THIS EV does 3.8s. Just take the L.

                        • +24

                          @Tiggrrrrr: BYD Seal Performance

                          Ultra-Safe BYD Blade Battery - 82.56 kWh
                          0-100km/h in 3.8s
                          Maximum Power - 390 kW
                          Maximum Torque - 670 Nm
                          AC Charging 7kW
                          DC Charging 150kW
                          Heads-up display
                          Genuine leather-wrapped steering wheel and seats
                          Premium 19 inch Alloy rims
                          Frequency Selective Dampening (FSD)
                          Intelligence Torque Adaption Control (ITAC)
                          AWD dual motor system
                          Up to 580km range NEDC - 520km WLTP
                          Complimentary 1 Year Roadside Assistance included

                            • +4

                              @Tiggrrrrr:

                              And that is the example above is it?

                              [Pre Order] BYD Seal: Dynamic $49,888, Premium $58,798, Performance $68,798 + On-Road Costs ($1,000 Deposit) @ BYD Automotive

                              • -4

                                @donga100: "example"

                                In case you didn't know e.g. is an abbreviation.

                                But thanks for proving my point.

                          • +1

                            @donga100: 3.8s for 0-100 is pretty bloody quick.

              • +5

                @ATangk: Really question is what car are they driving that manages 0-100km/h in 7.5s whilst stuck in traffic? I believe your comment was about how much more efficient EV's are in stop and start traffic?

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