GWM has reduced the price of the Jolion hybrid to under $30k for both private & ABN buyers, the cheapest it has ever been.
One of the cheapest brand new hybrid SUVs available with good features for the price and more interior space than other Chinese competitors at this price point. Sporty look compared to the regular petrol Jolion.
$3000 saving off regular prices.
$495 for metallic Black, Red, Blue or Grey paint.
oxygen bandit
neither
Depends on who used it.
Imbedded farts in seat cushions adds to the ambiance
@Brick Tamland: Some people are disgusting. Everytime I watch one of those Youtube car cleaning/detail channels, you gotta feel for whomever buys the car after.
@Fuzor: Oh yeah. Like even some seemingly normal people keep their cars in absolute pig stye conditions.
Good point. For some of those rideshare cars, the smell will never go away.
Starting to find these 'used 2002 camry' jokes silly.
They lead nowhere.
Could lead to buying a better car.
Exactly, a used Camry is old, torn, outdated with ancient tech, no warranty, ready for lots of new parts/major maintenance, smelly, uses way more petrol etc. There's no competition there.
At least the cars outlive the funnies of the joke.
FOG (Whirlpool, circa forever).
Depends how many times you want to stop at the lights and have an Uber passenger get in
The Chery Omada is one of the worst cars I have driven… I can only assume the Tiggo has the same woeful suspension.
We have the Cherry Tiggo 4 as a rental car. It is shocking how good it is. $24k drive away.
I think this is a bigger car than the Chery Tiggo 4
Cheri, cheri lady
Goin' through a motion
Love is where you find it
Listen to your heart
Seriously though, the chery omoda 5 looks 👌
You can win if you want. If you want it you will win.
Good times
Yes, Ferrari, Porsche, and Lamborghini will price match soon.
Fantastic price .Toyota CEO will be in shock ,now they might think about discounting their overpriced hybrids .
Why would they when people still buy them at the high prices?
It's all about coasting on their reputation and brand loyalty. Nothing wrong in the short run but once the Chinese gain a solid foothold they could only build on it.
In the Chinese domestic market a model refresh happens ever 2 years, a new model in every 4. And let's say that even the worst Chinese brands have made big improvements over the past few years, at the pace they're iterating.
When I went to China, the EVs they have over there versus what we get here is leaps and bounds ahead. So we are already getting the back end of their EV range as opposed to the latest and greatest. So other brands are in serious trouble, because all the Chinese have to do is send their best and current versions and everything else is already obsolete. I was very anti EV and very pro Toyota, but after my visit to China I am officially sold. My next vehicle is going to be an EV, a Chinese one.
@ColesWorthUnited: Careful mate. You are battling the tide here on ozbargain. We know who the majority of the users are.
@Brick Tamland: I disagree. Models for international market are built with better quality than their domestic market and at least we aren't paying a premium compared to what Europeans are paying.
@TheBilly: China's model are actually slightly ahead of overseas ones because they always release in local market first
eg BYD models usually its around 1 year ahead in China
By quality wise I do believe the those selling in Australia are better as they need to do all the compliance and safety check
compare those sold in china given the very competitive pricing, strongly believe they are compromising with the quality
i.e many EV brands provide huge discounts just in June after BYD announce their price cut up to 30% off
@littlesoldier: I heard they have such a high local demand they can't keep up with that yet, let alone start exporting
@TheBilly: The reality is both, they have excess demand and excess supply
demand wise, some new models with new tech and designs does have attract strong demand (eg. the new Xiaomi Yu7 got sold 240k in 18 hours after launch)
however, there are many models that have been over supplied, which leads to manufacturers like BYD forced to cut price and slow down production to clear old stocks
https://www.thedrive.com/news/china-is-dumping-0-mile-used-c…
@TheBilly: No, there is a MASSIVE over supply of evs in China. And the ev manufacturers have been manipulating “sales” numbers in order to scam the lucrative government subsidies. And yes Chinese ev manufacturers are dumping their products around the world in a desperate measure to survive. Zero mile second hand evs exported are a major scam they use..see video. There is going to be a huge bloodbath among the Chinese ev manufacturers, most won’t survive. Possibly even BYD.
@Foxxster: BYD will probably survive as the Chinese government wont let it down
however, the only key to survive now is the overseas sale performance
china economy is so weak at the moment and the price war internally makes nearly no profit margin at all
@Foxxster: Market consolidation is a natural process. Even the most developed economies experience mergers and acquisitions etc.
@TheBilly: I agree, we went in April and using Didi allowed us to get to see so many EVs.
Personal favourite was def the interior of the Geely Galaxy e8…. Absolutely insane and def felt like I was in the future. Was good to have it for a long drive from the great wall back to Beijing
@TheBilly: Doesn't matter how many Aussies go with the anti-China EV nonsense, they're good. Even Ford's CEO is shitting himself https://www.motorbiscuit.com/ford-ceo-chinese-evs/
@TheBilly: The flip side of this is its also a very imature, ultra competitive, state backed, highly volatile market. A great many brands will die, the domino effect of what happens after that is not fun. True support in the long term for the life of a vehicle beyond the so called warranty period, what that life really is, how spares are available, waiting times, general problems, costs, all these facts over the life of a car 7, 10, 15 years later are highly questionable with a lot more unknowns. Not everyone's lifestyle or means enables replacing their car every few years, heck, even every 7-10 years. It sure as heck does not for us. So for those people things like the very latest tech, model refresh and new model cycles are not even in the top 10 important factors.
@TheBilly: Hyundai Excel looked as good as the Corolla or Mazda 323 when it first came out. The owners found out a few years later though that you get what you paid for. We'll see if Chinese cars will withstand the test of time. I wouldn't be buying it based on bells and whistles. Glad some people would, otherwise we will never have real life testers.
@Deal Or-No Deal: Yep. There are countless examples, and across industries. They are making some brilliant cars no doubt and many more to come. But there are without doubt a plethora of lemons and models that just wont have reliably longevity. This may just one of those cyclical lessons that each generation / person has to learn for themselves.
@Xizor: Toyota Echo first released in 1999, I still see them being driven around. It's been so long, I can't remember the last time I 've seen early model Hyundai Getz a successor to the Excel which came out much later being on the road. And the Getz' were miles better than Excel'.
@TheBilly: great post and experience. Started shorting all the EU hype brand models as matter of time they will be dead weight. Chinese NEV and future looks tough for all other car markets and with the RORO ships and aggressive price strategy most of international markets will be in line
Oh here we go again with the reputation and loyalty to Toyota. If all brands can rely on such things, why are Nissan, Honda and many others dying? It's 2025, google and reviews are everywhere, so brands cannot survive on past reputation. Not like 1925 when people asked their neighbors which cars to buy.
As for the price, here's a simple thing. If it's shockingly cheaper, they have to corners somewhere. Usually you only realize this when the car is already out of showroom :)
@raperozbargain: It's just the shills trying to convince others to buy these because they did and it make them feel better when others jumped on the same mistake.
They have the reputation due to quality which gives them a pricing premium over others.
Even putting Toyota aside and comparing to other Japanese or Korean manufacturers, my personal experience with Chinese ICE vehicles is they feel very unrefined. When it comes to electric cars, the Chinese know what they're doing, but when it comes to ICE I'd need a heavy discount to buy Chinese.
Just like Apple fanboys, there always are Toyota fanboys.
I've heard Toyota hybrids get better much fuel economy to other brands because they've been making them for so long.
Not sure about Haval though.
@WatchNerd: yeah dunno about toyota suvs but my 2008 prius gets 4.4l/100km (almost exclusively urban roads)
toyota is a peasant car. there is no such fanboys
@WatchNerd: reckon the main bargain of toyotas is longevity but given that reputation it may well be at least partially due folks who prefer them have a tendancy to keeping their vehicles a long time and therefore take care to service regularly, drive them mindfully etc
I'm more of a Lexus fanboy, bought a 10 year old Lexus when I was younger and drove it with zero problems for 6 years, had 200k km on the clock in the end when I got rid of it and still going strong. Only ever changes oil, tyres (once) and brakes.
@CheapBrah: That is a Toyota. My GS is barely run in as well. 6 years now. Good as new in and out. The clear coating on the paint is pretty hard and well applied.
Sales are no longer rising, they are actually starting to drop off as more and more people choose value over getting ripped off with tech that is old and outdated compared to the new Haval HEV/PHEV cars. Chinese cars are now ranked no. 3 in Australia overall & 8 out of the 10 best selling EV cars were Chinese. Aussies are not going to tolerate the price gauging that came out of COVID any more now that we've got better options.
May I kindly ask for the source of your claim mate? From reliable source I mean, not trust me bro or dealer's 🤣
@raperozbargain: Seems only one of the top 10 selling EVs are made outside of china.
https://www.drive.com.au/news/australias-best-selling-electr…
@Duff5000: What are you talking about mate? There are 2 from Kia and 1 from Tesla. And this is only first 6 months of 2025, not the whole year yet. Chinese can only sell bc of cheap price + gimmicks. In the long run or when they need to increase price, they lose 😂
What are you talking about mate?
I'm not sure you could misunderstand what I wrote. Its pretty clear: "only one of the top 10 selling EVs are made outside of china."
There are 2 from Kia and 1 from Tesla.
Ok , and your point? The Tesla and one of the Kias are made in China……
@Duff5000: So? iPhone is made in China too, just purely because of cheaper production cost. It doesnt mean China is the creator of iPhone. Your point has no relation to supersabroso's comment above. I'm asking the source for this claim: "Chinese cars are now ranked no. 3 in Australia overall & 8 out of the 10 best selling EV cars were Chinese." Hence, what are you talking about mate?
@raperozbargain: I didn't repeat supersabroso's claim. I made a related point in a comment thread like normal people do on the internet.
"Hence, what are you talking about mate?"
I was talking about exactly what I said. Wasn't hard to understand. Not my fault you either assumed i meant something else or didn't realise both Tesla and Kia make cars in China.
You could have just said "yeah almost all were made there but i wouldnt call telsa or Kia Chinese, just Chinese made." Id agree with you.
Anyway… pointless discussion is pointless.
All pretty predictable. Cost of living crisis with retarded backwards energy policy driving up the underlying cost of everything, add on price gauging left right and center from supermarkets to tradies, and the average joe/jane being aruagbly more ignorant than ever before about the decisions they made… of course people are attracted to what is cheaper when the warranties give some sense of a safety net (even if there are more hassles). We're in a cycle where many people gravitate through affordability, through necessity, at least when it comes to the lower tier brands. BYD, Xpeng etc is changing that slowly. But even still, where you end up value wise 10 years later is still not clearly established and a bit of a gamble i'd say. Im not advocating to pay over the top for a Toyota or anything, just commenting on the differing rationale and behaviours for what people purchase. I know numerous people that have bought an MG, Haval, Cherry etc simply because of superior face value, not that they are in love with it or like how it drives.
they will react to sales performance of their own cars, not the prices of the competition
Doubt it, Haval feel like a cheap car. Totally different markets as well. People considering Toyota would not consider Haval.
I am one of them, you are wrong. Toyota fanboy, I wanted to buy a car for family 4 of us, can’t afford a rav4, test drove a Corolla cross which was around 40k, very tight rear seat space, not enough legroom, not practical. Bought a jolion lux, very spacious rear seats for kids with their school bag.. I don’t like the turbo lag, other than that solid car and was 10k cheaper..
Almost every car we have owned has been Japanese until now. Test drove a tank 300 the other day, was excellent. Waiting to see what they bring in as the new h7 later in the year.
Havals PHEVs / hi4t systems look excellent. We are certainly looking to go that way next purchase.
thats exactly what happened to toyota china. more competition pls
anytime i see these i say
"those wheels are 2 inches to small for those wheel arches"
i would hate one of these
2 inches to small
* too
*two
Numbers less than 10 should be written.
*TWUU wuv will fowwow you.. fowwevvaa..
you can always pay more to swap to bigger wheels.
u wouldnt say that after seeing tank 500
Once someone pointed out to me that the arches themselves always have a 5-10cm "flat" bit right at the edge I couldn't stop noticing it. And that's on every single car by any manufacturer. Not just one model.
There once was a man named Jolyon,
Who fancied a hat made of nylon.
It flew off one day,
And sailed far away—
Now he's mayor of Papylon.
every time i see these i just think of Jojolion
anytime i see a lamp post i think of jojo rabbit's ma
ora ora ora!
I think of Halal
Is this…. a jojo reference?
I hear Neon Genesis EVanJelion
different price in different places?
"Driveaway from
$24,990
Price is for private buyers in WA"
That's the petrol model
oh duh!
let the war begin1
in WA, $25,485 for the GWM Jolion base and $30,484 for the hybrid—the price difference is $4,999. Using the fuel efficiencies (8.1 L/100km for base, 5.1 L/100km for hybrid) and a fuel price of $2.00 per litre, the break-even distance is approximately 83,316 km.
Jolion Base Petrol: $25,485, 8.1 L/100km
Jolion Hybrid: $30,484, 5.1 L/100km
Fuel cost per km (base): $0.162
Fuel cost per km (hybrid): $0.102
Savings per km: $0.06
Break-even distance: ~83,316 km
You would need to drive about 83,000 km for the hybrid’s fuel savings to offset its higher purchase price compared to the base petrol model.
I have noticed a lot of Uber drivers using this car. Must be racking up mega km’s like 100,000km a year and also be reliable enough / cheap maintenance to get the Taxi / Uber industry to use them.
I seen one listed and it had 70,000km and was 9 months old.
This or the Chery?